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#they could of written Riven to be a good role model for troubled kids but then they decided that love triangle money was too lucrative
charmixpower · 1 year
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Based on what this says https://at.tumblr.com/magicallyblonde/okay-so-i-accidentally-stumbled-upon-a-site-with/49yl43i1d0n8 what some viewers have said about a few skirt fanservice moments and how winx gets a little dark and violent what do you think is the best age range. What would you think of more mature stuff but not like too dark or like fate
That's hilarious
"their moaning so sexually" they are groaning in pain, they are in a fight, there is nothing sexual about this. Have you ever watched a fight scene before???
"stripper fairies" they are just wearing crop tops, and the ones wearing skirts visibility are wearing shorts underneath them. Like you can see the shorts, there right there, what the fuck are you talking about
The only time Winx has ever made me unintentionally uncomfortable is when Bloom was strapped down in Darkar's palace. That one was weird, there was nothing going on and I don't think a child would pick up on it but it was really weird. Didn't like that
This is hilarious I've been watching this show my whole life. I saw the 4kids dub when I was a very small child, and watched it often enough with my mom that she can recognize the opening. Saw the Nick dub when I got a little older and watched that till the end of s5. Then periodically went back to watch the Rai dub as I got even older
I like it when Winx tries it hardest to tackle hard subjects. Season 2 was clearly trying it's best to warn about creepy teachers and teach children not to trust them, and while it's execution isn't always the best I have to applaud them for trying
Riven and Sky dying in s2 didn't feel dark. Sure the s2 finale is objectively dark, like the s1 finale is, but it has a happy ending. The good guys win and everyone is revived. Musa scoots away embarrassed of her actions, Bloom and Sky have a little moment after he's healed. The tension is released, the light tone is restored, and comedy is used to make everyone feel better after something so actually
The only season finale that felt too dark is the s4 one. "Death is now a real threat" the silly fairy show says after 3 fucking seasons of reviving people immediately after they die. Not to mention s4 is far more childish than any of the previous seasons, with is even more nonsensical love triangles, it's lack of motivations for the main villains, and band subplot. So that finale doesn't fit with the season tone. S1 darkened the tone when Bloom and her parents got tortured and Riven got uh mentally tortured, and then slowly lightened and darkened it to keep it consistent before Bloom returned and the show got light again. S4 hits you with a brick to the face and calls itself clever, even though there was nothing half as dark before this, making it feel a lot more gruesome than it actually is because it hits you with tonal whiplash
That's the only season I'd check a child's maturity level to watch, that shit left me a mess as a kid. THANKS RAINBOW
I liked how brutal the s1 fights got. It really made you think "wow, the Trix are really a threat and are going to hurt Bloom really badly when the get the chance." And guess what! They do! Effective foreshadowing. S2 darker plot line was contrasted by a lot of more personal stories of the Winx's backstories and getting to know Aisha. S3 had our main characters sacrificing their life's and it still didn't really feel dark as a child, because you still have comedy and levity breaking up the monotony. More stuff like this in later seasons, like imagine s4 showing the Wizard of the Black Circle actually injuring Roxy would need to be balanced with a happy ending and maybe not murdering Nabu because this is a kids show after all. The curse of Sirenix actually doing something fucked, and then we cut to silly bunny antics where Kiko tries to get a girlfriend.
Like it's not hard for the show to balance it's darker elements with comedy to make it feel lighter, but sometime after s3 it fucking lost that ability completely for some reason so the show either feels way too dark or like it's made for preschoolers. This stuff is FUN!! I had a fucking blast as a child wondering what was gonna happen to the Winx in s3 because I knew they'd struggle but get out fine, and the song fucked
Like Winx even got into character's psychology, with literally only Riven and Aisha but I digress, and made it feel hopeful. Here's two people who have gone though a lot, one has fucked up majorly, and the other doesn't know if she can or wants to trust the people around her, both due to past trauma, and they come out the other side better people!!! That shit was wild as a kid!!! Aisha struggling with anxiety was so touching. Neither her or Riven's story lines really felt dark. Aisha made me hopeful as a child with anxiety, and I hated Riven for annoying me reasons until I went back and rewatched when I was older and realized I was too harsh on him because everyone but the Rai dub apparently cut out his moment of realization??? That's fucked, that's the thing that gets you to like Riven dumbasses. So now when I watch it, that storyline is hopeful too!! I know people who are like Riven, I'm friends with them, and seeing a character like them who's struggling but learning to be better and better each day is so hopeful
And after that??? It's literally co produced by Nick. Their not going to do anything that could even hint at scaring the children, not to mention that the outfits become larger and more covering as the show goes on so ig parents got their wish because their boring and don't like crop tops
Actually the later seasons feel less hopeful to me. They inspire less joy. You don't get to see characters overcome their flaws and learn to be better because character arcs have been scrubbed away and the writers seem to think that Stella is stupid for some reason
Especially Riven's writing. What sends a better message to kids "hey if you mess up, go down a wrong path, and realized you've made a mistake. You can always apologize, the people you hurt don't have to accept you, but giving up isn't right. Trying your hardest to be better every day is worth it and you'll see that with the new friends you gain" or "Don't even bother trying to be a better person because you'll just slip back into bad habits over and over again, and never truly change." Like am I the only one who finds the fact that they keep resetting Riven's character arc extremely depressing and upsetting??? I'm genuinely lucky I decided I hated him as a kid because if I ever internalized any of that shit I would be so fucking mad rn
I guess what I'm trying to say is that the darker parts of the early seasons made the lighter parts brighter, and taking them away just makes the show gray and dull. This is why I dropped the show in s5 as a kid, it felt monotone. The darkness adds a place for hope, a place for real growth, and good lessons. You can't have true brightness hope and light without the dark to contrast it with, so the mature aspects of the earlier seasons were integral to my enjoyment of them as a child
If a character never truly fucks up, never is truly in danger, never has to confront anything difficult, them you can't really have a show that meaningfully saying anything. Just saying something with no follow through and seeing a character have to sit down and put in the work to learn it and watching them become better are two very different things
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