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empire roundup thots!
i noticed many more things! god i love star wars!
I FUCKINN LOVE EMPIREEE
100% fav sw movie
the DRAMA! the INTRIGUE!!! the SECRETS AND REVEALS
this just also happens to bbe the best movie for mystical force bullshit and that’s why it slaps
leia full on planting one on luke just to piss off han remains an unprecedented level of iconic
and luke awkwardly sitting there… just an incredible showign for our trio
crunks to the imperial march
Ok i have to mention the imperial officers staring up at vader in awe and fear as he struts past them… that’s the good shit
I still have a boner for tlj mirroring esb’s escape from the ice planet, and what about it???
fjdlkdfskjldkfsjl the imperials looking around awkwardly as vader e-chokes the admiral out…. Im fuffuckig Yelling i love my stuipd dramatic idiot son
i LOVE that kevin kiner got to repurpose the alternate walker theme for swr, because those heavy pianos were lit af
NO, NO! THIS ONE GOES THERE, THAT ONE GOES THERE
phoenix song for hobbie :’( may the force be with you
vader: i can’t see shit in this helmet
oh FUCK yeah gimme that little green gremlin!!!
dagobah luke is my favorite luke look-wise, narrative-wise, and character-wise, andn no you can't change my mind!
vacuum sealed sith lord
god that fuckin little puppet is making me emotional
what is thY BIDDING..... MY MASTER
nuts all over the fucking place
NUTS ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!! VADER HAS PURPOSE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 20 YEARS!!! IT'S HIS SON!!!!
HMM HA HM HM HM HA
luke doing tree parkour with yoda on his back vs kanan making ezra do a handstand on the ghost in the lower atmosphere
the magic tree scene is so sexy, i need a whole other post for that
rip for my guy captain needa
god i could really write whole ass dissertations on luke in esb
bc honestly. he does absolutely jack shit in the cloud city rescue. jack shit! he could have stayed w yoda and everyone would have been fine
lando calrissian did nothing wrong and no you cannot change my mind
the man, the myth, the legend, willrow hood
... there are no words my dudes. luke and vader confrontation rules supreme!
as a little kid i was OBSESSED w luke and vader's psychic connection on the falcon. (no shit, says everyone who knows even an inkling about me) the way luke immediately calls him "father," he's already accepted it...... bbye lmfao
hhhrhrtg HF FUEH EMPIRE IS THE BEST STAR WARS FILM EVER LIKE SORRY I DON'NT MAKE THE RULES... IM A PREQUEL STAN FOR LIFE BUT. G O D
next up, RETURN OF THE JEDI!!! LET’S TORCH SOME FUCKING SHEEVS!!!!
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‘Star Wars’ Screenwriter Chris Terrio on Ending the 42-year ‘Skywalker’ Saga
The Oscar-winning screenwriter talks about collaborating with J.J. Abrams on the script, respecting the memory of Carrie Fisher, and ending the Skywalkers.
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They had no illusions, though, that they would be able to satisfy everyone.
“We knew at the beginning that there was no world in which everyone was going to say that was exactly what I wanted,” Terrio explained. “But I hope at the very least our love for the characters and for the galaxy comes through in some way.”
Critics and audiences alike seem torn on the concluding film to the Star Wars world as we know it. It posted $177 million in its opening weekend, but that was down significantly from the previous outing, The Last Jedi. Additionally, The Rise of Skywalker is the only film in the new trilogy to not receive an “A” Cinemascore rating, indicating the perhaps inevitable mixed reactions from fans.
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During the course of our near hour-long interview, he dropped a lot of plot spoilers (avoided here) and detail about additional footage not included in the finished product (also avoided here) that seemingly speaks to many of the internet-based criticisms.
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AD: When you two were working together, you obviously had this shared appreciation for the Star Wars universe. When you starting working on the final script, were you responding to a pre-defined structure or were you creating something unique between the two of you?
CT: Both actually. Kathy Kennedy and Michelle Rejwan had a clear plan for where they wanted things to end. They had clear plans about certain narrative marks they wanted us to hit. They also gave us a lot of freedom within that. We knew that Rey and Ren were utterly key to this trilogy, but we also felt that there was no way that we were going to not find a path to redemption for Kylo Ren, the son of Han and Leia. We felt that right from the beginning, when J.J. established Kylo Ren in Episode VII, there was a war going on inside him and that he had been corrupted by something bigger than himself and had made bad choices along the way. J.J. and I felt we needed to find a way in which he could be redeemed, and that gets tricky at the end of Episode VIII because Snoke is gone. The biggest bad guy in the galaxy at that moment seemingly is Kylo Ren. There needed to be an antagonist that the good guys could be fighting, and that’s when we really tried to laser in on who had been the great source of evil behind all of this for so long. That’s when we really started aggressively pursuing this idea that there is old evil that didn’t die. The source of the evil in the galaxy is this dark spirit waiting for its revenge and biding its time. The entity known as Palpatine in this version – his body died in Return of the Jedi – is patient and has been waiting. He dug his fox hole and has been waiting for his chance to re-establish his total domination.
AD: Was returning to this entity known as Palpatine always in the plan or was it newly introduced in Episode IX?
CT: Well, I can’t speak to Kathy’s overall intent. That was certainly discussed and was discussed before I ever came on. Kathy had this overall vision that we had to be telling the same story for nine episodes. Although from the sleight of hand of Episode VII and Episode VIII, you wouldn’t necessarily know immediately that we were telling the same story. She thought it would be a very strong end for the ninth movie. This fits well with J.J. because he loves magic tricks. He will often talk in metaphors and magic tricks, and so in Episode VII and Episode VIII, you think you’re watching one thing but Episode IX tells you to watch more closely – you were actually watching something else. When you rewatch the earlier films, things start to make additional sense. Ren and his devotion to the idea of his grandfather. The voice that he’s always heard in his head. The certain similarities between Snoke and Palpatine. The intention was that, by the time you get to Episode IX, you realize there were real reasons this is all happening. It all shows how this story is being fought cyclically through the series.
AD: One thing that’s fairly pervasive right now is the buzz around Kelly Marie Tran’s reduced role in The Rise of Skywalker when compared to The Last Jedi. Tell me about working through her role in the final film.
CT: Well, first of all, J.J. and I adore Kelly Marie Tran. One of the reasons that Rose has a few less scenes than we would like her to have has to do with the difficulty of using Carrie’s footage in the way we wanted to. We wanted Rose to be the anchor at the rebel base who was with Leia. We thought we couldn’t leave Leia at the base without any of the principals who we love, so Leia and Rose were working together. As the process evolved, a few scenes we’d written with Rose and Leia turned out to not meet the standard of photorealism that we’d hoped for. Those scenes unfortunately fell out of the film. The last thing we were doing was deliberately trying to sideline Rose. We adore the character, and we adore Kelly – so much so that we anchored her with our favorite person in this galaxy, General Leia.
AD: Given the sheer volume of exposition required and number of characters you did have to balance, was there ever talk around expanding Episode IX into a “Part 1” and a “Part 2?”
CT: I wish we could have done that. There is a lot of plot in the movie, and as a writer, you always want scenes to let the plot breathe more. If there were a way of doing it, splitting it would have been my dream. We could have written these characters forever. There was so much backstory that had to be left by the wayside. I wish that we could have that, but George always said it was nine movies. That was the natural size of the saga, and so, other than a few initial discussions, we never really advanced that conversation. Of course, as a writer, it breaks your heart to leave stuff on the table that you think would have given the story more depth and nuance and to give the characters more to do. Speaking for myself and not on the part of the studio, I do wish there could have been a “Part 1” and a “Part 2.”
AD: Trying to avoid spoilers here, but leading into the final film, the word was that this would be the final chapter on the Skywalker saga. Yet, there’s a persistence still in the name Skywalker at the end of the film. Is this really the end?
CT: I don’t have any additional insight into that than you do, honest to God. For us, the resonance of the name Skywalker was just purely a thematic one. It wasn’t an attempt to brand something in the universe. J.J. and I had a post-it that read, “You don’t discover who you are. You create it.” So much of this film is about discovery and creating who you are through that discovery. It’s purely for thematic reasons that we included who is a Skywalker at the end of the film. [Editor note: We omitted a great deal of conversation around spoilers related to the end of the film for this answer. This printed response provides the overall sense of his answer while avoiding explicit spoilers.]
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source : www.awardsdaily.com/2019/12/24/star-wars-screenwriter-chris-terrio-on-ending-the-42-year-skywalker-saga/
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Scary Wrestling Stuff from My Childhood
Every Halloween season, it’s not uncommon for wrestling fans to reminisce about the moments in our great sport that genuinely scared them, and I’m certainly no exception. At the end of the day, wrestling is still a fantasy world that’s seen plenty of dark, suspenseful, and even at times supernatural bullshit. In fact, one of its biggest stars is The Undertaker, who has been in turns a mortician, a zombie, a Satanic cult leader, a desert biker, and some strange hybrid of all those characters at once.
Truthfully, nothing in wrestling scares me anymore. Well, at least not in kayfabe. Real life still provides a lot of fright in and out of the ring. When I see a wrestler get legitimately injured in the ring, you bet I’m concerned. The depressingly common trend of premature wrestling deaths is a terrifying subject on its own. But when you’re a kid, where even the most ridiculous thing in wrestling can seem real, there’s a lot in kayfabe to be scared about, and you don’t even known what the hell the term “kayfabe” even means.
So, to get in the spirit of the spooky season, I’ll give you a quick rundown of some things that personally scared me shitless watching wrestling as a youngster:
Evil Doink the Clown: Doink is usually associated with everything wrong in WWF’s New Generation era⏤one-dimensional gimmickry, cheesy beyond belief, and worst of all, out of touch. But it’s a reputation that isn’t quite deserved. The original Doink character was that of an evil clown, brilliantly brought to life by Matt Borne. As someone who churned out many rewatches of WrestleMania IX as a child, which features the character at its peak, you better believe I was terrified of this wrestling clown with lime green hair. If evil Doink’s sudden mood swings and aggression weren’t unsettling enough, the entrance music is fucking horrifying to this day. Far scarier than Pennywise and the Joker could ever wish, complete with maniacal clown cackles. Yikes, yikes, yikes. It sounds like the soundtrack to a haunted carnival episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark? on Nickelodeon. Given the rise of creepy clowns in recent pop culture, evil Doink would still get over now, and scare a whole new generation of kids to boot.
Kane, Circa ’97/‘98: Hear me out: the video package to Kane and The Undertaker’s clash at WrestleMania XIV is one of the best ever. The music, the footage, and even the random Michael Cole narration all flow together perfectly to create something goosebumpingly epic. But, damn, as kid? This was some terrifying shit. Considering I was too young to stay up and watch every episode of Raw in full, that package was like a highlight reel of pure horror. Kane has become known for taking part in some of the most infamous and illogical storylines in WWE history, but it’s often forgotten how effective a job was done to build him up as a monster upon his debut. Remember when he lit that random dude on fire on Raw? Holy fuck. Not even the Wicked Witch of the West setting fire to The Scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz shook me up quite like that. The eyes peeping out of his mask was, to me, the most frightening part of his appearance. Total nightmare fuel. Generations more familiar with bald, mask-less Kane could never quite know the trauma.
Papa Shango’s Sega Genesis Theme Music: Okay, this a fairly obscure one, but my brother and I would play WWF Royal Rumble on Sega Genesis back in the day. The game was complete with cute little 8-bit versions of each wrestler’s entrance themes. The Crush theme, in particular, is a minor masterpiece. The other piece of music that made an impact on me is the version of Papa Shango’s theme. I didn’t have too much footage of Papa Shango in my childhood wrestling VHS collection so he held some mythical status to me. The original theme is creepy enough, but the Genesis version really takes you to an dark, murky swamp where Shango is hexing his latest victim. It scared me so much that I’d speed ahead the character selection screen in the game so I wouldn’t have to hear it. You can scoff at me now all you want, but I must speak my truth.
Zeus and Randy Savage Attack Hulk Hogan and Brutus Beefcake: If you’ve watched Survivor Series 1989, you may remember a segment where Mean Gene interviews Hulk Hogan and Brutus Beefcake about their upcoming match at No Holds Barred. That’s not scary at all, but it’s what happens as the interview unfolds that, for whatever reason, really tore me up when I’d put my copy of this show in the VHS. Sensational Sherri crashes the interview, with the most wild-eyed glared you could imagine, shouting at Hogan and Beefcake in her dark, garish makeup. She then throws handfuls of powder in their eyes, allowing Zeus and Randy Savage to attack them. It’s so hard to describe what’s so scary about this. No Holds Barred, both the movie and the pay-per-view, were pretty notorious failures so it’s not even like it’s remembered as a major angle or anything. If anything, I gotta think it has something to do with the sudden tonal shift from a goofy babyface interview to an all-out assault, which can be pretty striking for any young viewer.
Mick Foley, Hell in the Cell: I don’t really need to say any more, do I? The Hell in the Cell match at King of The Ring 1998 is something that warrants a post of its own, as its undoubtedly one of my favorite matches of all time. But I cannot stress this enough: watching a human being do what Mick Foley does in this match, no matter how pre-planned, is some seriously distressing shit. As an adult, you realize you’re watching this man single-handedly take years off his career. But even in kayfabe, there’s true terror in watching the full extent of Mankind’s threshold reveal itself. The dude literally fucking smiles to the camera as he’s concussed and his mouth bloodied into steak tartar. If that image alone doesn’t stay with you, I don’t know what will. Mick Foley turns this match into a mini horror movie. Years before people tuned in droves to watch Saw and Hostel, they watched Mick Foley torture himself. In the match’s most chilling moments, he turns Mankind into a character like Michael Myers or Jason Voorhees⏤just when you think he’s been completely broken in half, he’s up and ready for more.
Early Undertaker: I can’t possibly go on without mentioning The Undertaker. When you really think about it, some of things I’ve mentioned already wouldn’t have been possible without him. It seems a little cliche to even bring him up for a topic like this, but he’s the OG of cheesy wrestling horror. Plus, it needs to be said: The Undertaker, in first couple years of his WWF career, could easily scare kids. It definitely scared the kids who grew up watching that version of the character, at least. I watched Survivor Series 1990 countless times growing up so, as you could imagine, I was one of the fortunate/unfortunate children. One of the more brilliant touches of The Undertaker’s early character, outside of the creepy glare and slow approach, was the various shots of mortified children in the crowd. It seems like a minor detail, but it went a long way in establishing him as a genuine monster. Not to mention, there were things the Undertaker did during that era that, even by the family-friendly standards of early ‘90s WWF, were pretty messed-up. How about that time he locked The Ultimate Warrior in a coffin? Or when he worked with Jake Roberts to terrorize Randy Savage and Miss Elizabeth? Make no mistake, those first few years were critical in letting us know for whom the bell tolls.
And that about does it for my own personal horrors. Maybe you think mine are silly, but what about wrestling scared you growing up? Does it still scare you? Does it still give you nightmares? As you ponder, I’ll be looking over my shoulder, hoping I’m not attacked by Zeus.
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do you ever feel like... the st doesn't handle the skywalker family drama as well as it could/should have? we are told the gist of it, yes, through the conversation between leia and han in tfa and later through the conversation and the flashbacks in tlj, and yet i can't help but feel that there should be more - like, idk, vader's effect on luke's jedi order and/or leia's political career (speaking of, what's with the zero attention to leia's political career?)? 1/2
we know nothing about luke and ben’s relationship pre-fall. we have no idea how leia and luke got to know about snoke, or how snoke managed to get to ben. and like, i get there’s still one more episode left (not to mention… books and comics and tv series to sell), but imo it wouldn’t have been that difficult to squeeze in a couple of extra minutes/sentences to better flesh out the ~30 years that have passed between epvi and epvii. 2/2
I have to admit, I can’t say that I don’t. Like, a mention of Anakin in other context than Luke making training him out into the worst thing jedi order has done and Han admitting he’s scared of his father in law in his child would sure be nice. Now that I think of it, has anyone even called Anakin by his true name in this trilogy? No, not even Redeemer-it’s-your-real-name-you’ve-only-forgotten-Luke does that. And I’ll be honest, upon my first watching of TFA (in my defense, I had subtitles to focus on), when Leia says It was Snoke I was a bit too busy thinking who??? to process what this implies about Ben’s fall.
And yes, something about Leia’s political career would have been nice as well. I get it, there are books and shows for that, but idk, can you imagine if the prequels brushed Padmé’s political status aside? Politician is a part of Leia’s characterization, just as jedi knight is Luke’s. But as far as this is concerned, it may yet be possible that IX will focus more on this subject, what with her son running the galaxy.
Of course, I understand that they don’t want to make the redemption too obvious, etc., but the result is that for many people who only watch the movies the stakes in Ben’s redemption are rather low, and in consquence the entire trilogy feels hollow as well. They just can’t see him as a child OTrio loves and cares about and it’s not because they’re too good for this world. His family only matters when it comes to marking him for patricide. Like, dammit, upon rewatching TLJ at home (april or may, I guess, so about 4-5 months after the cinema viewing) at least one of the people I watched it with totally forgot Ben explicitly doesn’t shoot at Leia (and it’s no illiterate or uninvested in SW person). I think this shows how well the movies alone brought home the importance of this mother-son relationship.
Still, there is yet hope that IX will nourish us with some proper family discourse (JJ can pry fg Luke-Ben scene in Padmé’s tomb from my cold dead hands). And by proper family discourse I don’t mean explanation of why wholesome spiritual heirs are superior to your failing flesh and blood.
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watching the death star blow up is a whole new level of satisfying
i can’t even count them all, the people that have just been avenged... alderaan, jedha, rogue one, the jedi, the clones, the separatists, geonosis, saw and steela, ezra and kanan, owen and beru, bail and breha, galen and lyra....... COUNTLESS others i’m forgetting...
may the force be with you fucking ALL. obi wan, biggs, the entirety of red and gold squadrons, owen and beru, bail breha and alderaan, like... empire? get fucked. tarkin? eat my fucking ass you prick
WOW that was SO MUCH MORE SATISFYING THAN I COULD HAVE EVER DREAMED!!!!!!! GET!!! FUCKED!!! EMPIRE!!!!!!1
some observations tho!
leia’s message intro music is the same as ezra opening the holocron intro music!!! BRUh
obi wan on th edeath star is me playing assassin’s creed on easy mode
vader blasting battle of the heroes in his helmet radio
EZRA GOT THOSE Y WINGS.....
again, love how we have all collectively decided that hera gave birth to jacen right after scarif
dont’ remember where i read this but the headcanon that tarkin’s defeat and destruction of his destroyer in rebels s1 made him less likely to evacuate the death star bc he didn’t want to be embarassed again, fuck yeah
chopper totally passed along obi’s coordinates to r2, but they got garbled along the way, so r2 is just winging it
did... did owen not recognize 3po
getting sad tinking about chewie owing ahsoka a debt which is why he agrees to help obi
getting HAPPY thinking about luke and leia instinctively knowing each other
the absolute unrivalled iconicness. we have decided to stan for life
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Rebels au where everything is the same but the lothal temple mural has the daughter doing it to em, the son dabbing, and the father t posing
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Krennic: Lord Vader I need to speak to you about governor tark-
Anakin:
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tbh i just don’t trust people who don’t like rogue one
anyway, here are some more thoughts
did i utter a soft, anguished “hera!” every time i saw the ghost? maybe
the ending???? STILL HURTS
also seeing the y wings i said out loud to my roommate’s cat “ezra got those y wings...” and he blinked at me before going back to sleep
i gotta spend more time with this soundtrack i rly do, i spotted the death star theme, vader’s original iv theme, and others.... hawt
vader’s rage... man. another moment my jaw was just on the floor
the last like 20 minutes of rogue one, i physically can’t look away. it’s so mUCH
rogue one! cassian, jyn, bodhi, chirrut, baze, and the COUNTLESS rebels who gave their LIVES to get the death star plans... and YOU KNOW WHAT??? GALEN AND LYRA! CASSIAN’S INFORMANT! ALL THE PARTISANS AND PEOPLE OF JEDHa WHO DIED!!!
may the force be with you all!!
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GENERAL SYNDULLA!!!! PLS REPIRT TO THE BRIEFING ROOM!!!!!
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HEY I’VE NEVER LISTENED TO THE WHOLE ENDING CREDITS BEFORE AND THERE’S A WHOLE SECTION THAT’S LIFTED FROM THE REBELS SOUNDTRACK
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OH AND I FORGOT TO POST THIS BUT
captain gregor! the nightmare is over, brother, you can rest now! and may the force be with you
also, governor pryce get fucking REKT
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Completely unrelated and I apologize but Diego Luna is a whole entire snack
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I.... have never noticed that before
The guy totally screams "karabast! At-at!"
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I love that we as a fandom all have the headcanon that hera gave birth to jacen either during or immediately after the battle of scarif
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The ground zero view of the desolation of jedha is just.... stunning
In the theater my jaw just. Dropped. I couldn't breathe it was so gorgeous and HORRIFIC
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stream round up~!
i actually really wish more of rebels had been about the war effort, particularly towards the end of s4
like obvs. i love the weird force shit. but. i feel like there should have been more of a focus on the early war effort
anyway
sees ezra; immediately bursts into tears (i love him so much he is my happy place rn where IS HE DAVE!!!)
iim weeping he’s so grown up and mature and stupid :”) bapy
him sabine and chopper are the Most disastrous and they are so good
ezra vs commander titus, the greatest rivalry there ever was
seriously he got the guy demoted twice and then killed him. amazing
and as always, ezra meekly waving at the imperial ship, then sabine immediately hitting him . i love my stupid ass son
i like saw gerrera and i like this arc but what i REALLY LIKE is the thinly veiled references to the death star
that shit butters my muffin so hard you don’t even KNOW
because the death star is SUCH a climactic moment in the sw timeline, it’s like the assassination of fucking franz ferdinand, it changes EVERYTHING. it’s the threshold of their entire fucking chronology. hgnng
rebels au where everything is the same except instead of force whistles ezra hears toto by africa (thanks @greatlakesrebel )
god i love the lothal outfit designs they look so fuckin g stupid
except hera. of course. she is divine
i seriously forgot that they killed old jho and i am. still furious. that’ slike the only npc i’ve ever loved. how fucking dare the empire.
hey baron valen fuckface, that’s the kid that stole your helmet right in front of you. idiot
dante basco is a versatile actor with an amazing range. also, look at zuko go
the glow up for jai is REAL
CAN YOU BELIEVE KANAN AND HERA INVENTED LOVE
YEAH FLIGHT OF THE DEFENDER, i really really like this episode
god i love the WOLVES
also ezra and sabine being peak dumbass!!!
lets just steal the tie defender. nbd. iconic
hello mr bitch blue
now if i saw a huge wolf i would shit my pants. i can’t imagine how scary that must of been
the wolf music is so prettyyy and the designs are so prettyyyy thanks dave
also hello rukkhkkhkhhkkhhk
fellas is it gay to hold onto your bro’s waist while we’re running from the government
kanera is. the only valid star wars ship. han and leia whO
YEAH MOM, FIGHT THE FUCKING POWER!!!!!!!!!!!
there’s a lot i love about the wolves leading them through the planet. what is going on. what does it mean. when they wake up and for a split second they’re in the liminal grass. ugh so good
i never really subscribed to the kanan is from lothal theory, but im warming up to it!
the best part of crawler commandeers is ezra doing his stupid voice. you’re so dumb. god i love you
LET’S JUST. PRETEND THAT THE SHOW ENDED RIGHT THERE. I DON’T WANT TO KEEP GOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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