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#the issue is when ppl misinterpret these characters because that shows they lack understanding of a character they claim to like
sweetescapeartist · 1 year
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Remember this post I made about how I felt about these GT characters?
Remember when I said I didn't like how Pan, Trunks, Marron, & Bra are all were written to be some sirt of Bulma? I mean, Bulma's children having aspects of her personality are fine & makes sense. However, it DOES NOT make sense for Pan & Marron to be written like Bulma. Who is responsible for that choice? Aya Matsui. Don't know who that is? She was the head writer for DBGT.
GT is something mostly created by Matsui (Atsushi Maekawa had a lot of creative input too due to how he wrote more GT episodes than anyone else). Matsui wrote GT without much if any input from Toriyama other than some art. And recently, I discovered that she worked on DBZ and she's a Bulma fan. Ah... So, that is why Matsui wrote for 4 characters in GT to be like Bulma (Pan, Trunks, Bra, Marron).
I also decided to go back and looked at the filler episodes she wrote in DBZ & I found out that Matsui is a Vegeta fangirl as well. And she also seems to dislike Yamcha and Krillin...
Multiple ppl in charge of official material inaccurately portraying Toriyama's characters that helped influence the hatred for Krillin & Yamcha. Sheesh...
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fantastic-rambles · 3 years
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Ahhh yaknow what you’re right. I just went back and looked over some of the rod, and I didn’t see Langa explicitly agree to not to skate with Adam. He promised that he wouldn’t quit skating with Reki, but he only acknowledged Reki’s warning to not be reckless. It actually makes a bunch of sense why Langa would be confused by the distancing and argument. I see now why you were upset with Reki’s behavior. It feels kind of like a ‘secret contract’ sorta thing where Reki got upset over a broken rule Langa never realized he was supposed to abide by. And not only is that unfair like you said, but it flipped the situation as if Langa was being untrustworthy to his word when really Reki didn’t trust Langa not to quit skating with him just because of danger/injury. And especially since I’ve seen people make solid arguments for Langa being neurodivergent or neurodivergent-coded, it’s really not a stretch at all for him to see the situation like you did. Langa most likely saw the issue as solely reckless behavior leading to quitting. But clearly Reki’s own jealousy/insecurities added Langa preferring better skaters as potentially leading to them not skating together without ever discussing it until Langa was blindsided during the argument. I would’ve looked a better apology from Reki where he fully explained why he was upset when they were making up. It’s human for his feelings on the issue to change, but that should’ve been better expressed to Langa. Although Langa did a great job of accurately smoothing over what was bothering Reki without that. Maybe that’ll be rectified if he apologizes to Miya. I think Miya deserves one especially since Reki physically shoved him after he opened up about why his actions were such a sore spot for him. I actually thought Miya’s words would help Reki see the other side of things so seeing Miya get pushed was like a “Bro wtf??” moment for me. Again it’s understandable that people act out when they’re angry and Reki was obviously already struggling with his emotions, but it should be acknowledged again how wrong that was. Boy are you opening my eyes to a lot of problematic stuff lol.
Also, I’m very curious as to why you hate Shadow. For me, it’s because I can’t move past that comment in ep 1. I know ppl brush it off as just an (unnecessarily misogynistic) act for his persona, but that woman literally didn’t say anything to him and he insulted her for no reason by using her body as trophy to be defaced if he won. Ew. And just because he’s super nice to the flower shop lady, he does not get a pass. If he’s only respectful to women he’s attracted to and jumps at any other the opportunity to degrade women, he’s still a misogynist. And I’m pretty sure that he already new flower shop lady when the series started, so I don’t think you can argue that his character developed to be better towards women as a whole because of her or that he wouldn’t do something like that again at this point in the story. Especially since the goal of proving yourself as a “strong man” has not historically worked out to men being compassionate with women. (Tho within a vacuum devoid of his other actions, I can appreciate his commitment to a makeup routine)
Oh! And I would totally wanna read that fanfic if you write it!! I’m not even as gung-ho about Adam going to jail as most fans and Adam-haters tbh. Mainly because it’d probably be for political corruption via money bribes which is already kinda common and I don’t think the show has stated him to be doing anything particularly bad with it I don’t think so?? Like it seems to be mainly for the purpose of keeping S secret which is indeed a waste of money and effort when he could just buy it, but on the other hand, there doesn’t seem to be any ill consequences on the citizens the politician represents. So yea, it’s illegal so the jail time is technically deserved. But also like... no harm no foul🤷‍♀️ If he would be getting charged for assaulting other skaters than I definitely think that’s fair, but I doubt that’ll happen in the show just because I feel like no one will actually say anything when the time comes partially due to the shock of his arrest if they’re even involved. And I mean, Cherry was pissed at Adam for getting skaters hurt but still rolled out the hospital and joked like he was fine, so I just don’t particularly see anyone calling him out on it to the point of it being apart of his sentencing. The end of ep 11 with Cherry and Joe arguing about one of them going against Adam just doesn’t sound like condemning him to battery charges to me XD
But yaknow I’ve been loving hurt/comfort type fics lately, so I’d be really interested in seeing Adam truly work and change himself for some type of redemption in that setting. I can see hitting rock bottom as being really good for him given it may provide a reprieve from having to manage his image. Adam is underrated in complexity so it’s always cool when people try to flesh him out more and dive into his inner world. And of course Tadashi is kind of my fave (if you couldn’t tell) so I love anything healing for him as well :)
Yep, I was majorly pissed at Reki for how he treated Langa and Miya. His behavior is absolutely problematic. Not as bad as Adam, obviously, but with everything I’ve said and you’ve realized... yeah. I’m glad he made up with Langa and will probably make up with Miya, but it doesn’t invalidate everything he’s done before. Yes, he’s still an immature teenager, but I don’t think he realizes how messed up his behavior was, even after making up with Langa (the resolution seems to be based on him accepting that he’s not an ace skater, rather than recognizing how toxic his behavior was), so I’m still not satisfied. But hey, it’s probably just me being hyperfixated on trivial details that nobody else even cares about. /shrug
(I’m glad to know that I wasn’t misinterpreting the “promise,” or lack thereof, though!)
And I have two major problems with Shadow. My first--and biggest--problem is, as you’ve pointed out, that he’s an enormous misogynist. At “S,” people have the freedom to be exactly who they are beneath the facades that they show to the world. For example, Adam is someone desperately searching for someone who can understand him, not the perfectly put-together politician Shindo Ainosuke. Cherry and Joe are more true to their “real life” selves, but there are differences in their behavior on the track and off. And then there’s Shadow, the overcompensating “strong man” who threatens to make a guy tattoo “Dumpster Slut” over his girl’s name. So I 100% agree with everything you said about Shadow. He’s a chauvinistic pig.
The second problem is that I honestly think his actions when he’s racing are worse than Adam’s, and the only reason it’s not made out as such is because he’s the buttmonkey rather than the villain. I believe that, as problematic as Adam’s antics are, he does not intend to cause severe physical harm to his opponents. I’ve discussed this idea in more detail in other posts, but in short, even in the most extreme case--Cherry’s--his injuries were far lighter than they would have been if Adam had seriously wanted to hurt him. Death, coma, etc. were all highly probable outcomes of that situation, so the only reason they didn’t happen was because Adam was holding back. Or anime logic. But even anime logic can only stretch so far. And against lesser opponents like Reki, he generally holds onto them to ensure that they don’t accidentally hurt themselves when they’re panicking.
Of course, Shadow doesn’t intend to cause severe physical harm to his opponents either, but he does not exert any control over the situation after he throws fireworks at his opponent or shines a laser in their eyes. We’ve twice seen his opponents fall off the course as a direct result of his actions: Reki in the first race, Harry in the quarterfinals. They could have just as easily fallen off the cliff or slammed into a wall (at full speed) and been badly injured. If Shadow were an actual villain, I fully believe that he would have an actual body count of people who died racing against him (as opposed to Adam’s trail of injured opponents). So it bothers me that people shrug off what Shadow does while screaming for Adam’s death.
As for the scandal subplot... I’m *pretty* sure it’s a lot more serious than Adam bribing the police to leave “S” alone. I think he’s actually involved in some majorly shady/illegal activities politically. Like, in Episode 7, when the other Diet member gets pulled over, arrested, and has his house searched... there’s no way that has anything to do with “S.” At the very least, the two of them were collaborating on something really bad, something serious that Adam lied about under oath, and that’s enough for Adam’s staff to worry about what’s going to happen, especially Tadashi. We don’t know what it is specifically, but it’s definitely a lot more than just passing out bribes to hide “S.”
Lol, I’ll have to see how it goes. Probably won’t start it until after the anime finishes at the very least so I can see how it turns out for Adam and Tadashi, plus I have another half dozen WIPs at the moment and nowhere near enough time to work on them all. xD
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alexiaugustin · 4 years
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you can be all uwu poor 16 yo child but then can't expect lucas who's like what 1 year older to be an adult who never fucks up... you're babying lola and shitting on people who do the same for lucas. not everyone has to like someone as selfish as lola and make excuses for her just because she's a female character
babe it's so wonderful just how much you are missing my point right now and how much you are once again proving my point that nobody in this fandom is allowed to have their own opinions as long as they concern the cis white mlm characters. the thing i was talking about was how the fandom views/bashes lola compared to how the fandom has been treating lucas ever since season one. so the fact that you must have felt so offended about this post and then went ahead and turned it into a discourse about how lola is a bitch n lucas can do whatever he wants because he has abandonment issues seem like a YOU problem because i wasn't even talking about the characters and who was more valid for doing what they did on the show🤪🤪
but okay!! take a seat, drink some tea and here are a list of quotes from my own posts that i've made during the last 24 hours so let's see if the points you made in your ask are actually valid criticism of my post or if you very simply lack reading comprehension😍
you can be all uwu poor 16 yo child but then can't expect lucas who's like what 1 year older to be an adult who never fucks up...
>”ofc im not out here blaming everything that went wrong on lucas like the whole situation was nuanced amd neither of them was right nor were they completely wrong”
you're babying lola and shitting on people who do the same for lucas
>”there are almost always times when i dislike or just can't stand a character at one moment and like that's completely normal”
>”lucas used to be my comfort character in 2019 so this is absolutely nothing against ppl who like them like that's fine!!”
>”she wasn't allowed to mess up. she wasn't allowed to be a multi-faceted character. she wasn't allowed to grow, heal, learn & apologize. she wasn't on the show but she also clearly wasn't in the fandom and the only thing ppl cared about was that lucas would have a chance to "go off" on her and be "hot"🤪”
not everyone has to like someone as selfish as lola and make excuses for her just because she's a female character
>”you didn't even have to like lola at all but as you said a lil bit respect would have been cool... haha🤪”
>”my point in the first place was more about how lola was treated in the fandom and how quickly ppl were to cancel her and call her a bitch when Lucas got away with.... the same amount of shit”
>”you weren't obligated to lover her because she was the main character or to even like her because she was a character on the show at all. but a little. just a little empathy and understanding for a mentally ill sixteen year old teenager is smth that i would have actually expected in a fandom where most people are even older than i am.”
so in conclusion.... thank you for trying to defend someone so hard by purposely misinterpreting all of my posts and just erasing the parts from your brain where i was proving you wrong about your arguments against me. you lack reading comprehension and im much rather on the flipside of the coin where i at least have a very basic understanding of other people and what they are going through and would be decent enough of a person to let someone who's going through it right now sleep in my bed and not yell at my girlfriend for caring about her!! very glad that that's me rip to all the people who wouldn't but please leave this blog then. thank you!😍😍
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