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davekat-sucks · 4 months
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As much as the postcanon kids are cool in design, I doubt people whenever anyone says “my favorite postcanon character is this kid” because in the epilogues Vrissy was basically a traumadump for Vriska to star her new character arc of escaping the fake and gay candy timeline while Tavros main feature was being timid and nervous, a flanderized version of Tavros Nitram. Harry had like 3 lines of dialigue through the whole story.
Now the sequel, Homestuck^2
The kids have actual dialogue and focus in different updates, Harry is the naïve but well mannered theatre kid with a crush on Vrissy, Tavros and Vrissy are hate dating, and Vrissy is generally a scene kid, and Tavros is the rich child who’s entire status is being a ransom bargain against Jane Crocker to get Yiffy back.
Sure they had some funny dialogue, but they are set pieces for Vriska to be the real main character.
Yiffy doesn’t even talk, she disrupts Gamzee’s funeral.
So it’s revealing why some Homestuck fans like HS2, they like the characters with pretty designs and dialogue that references new memes or has the character say something progressive and do anarchist praxis against Janeald Trumpcker like their hero Bernie Sanders.
Most of all they just want more Homestuck, quality is a second priority to the nostalgia and excitement of new Homestuck content, to regress in age just for a moment and feel what it was like to theorize, create, and read new content with an infinite potential of possible directions the story could go in! That’s why many fans saw the newest Beyond Canon update as “the best one yet!” Because it had their favorite characters doing new things
But what we have now does not have as much potential as people think it does, James Roach brags this story will be long, it will take longer than Homestuck 1 did to finish and may be as long as Homestuck, and the whole story is outlined, so we’re just waiting to see the inevitable disappointment that is Hussie’s plan for a final conclusion to Homestuck written when he was running out of ideas for handling Homestuck as a media franchise.
But it won’t matter, some people just want more Homestuck, regardless of quality.
If people want more Homestuck, they can just do stuff like make their own endings, fanart, fanfic, doujinshi, etc. Or commission someone to make said fanart or plushie. They don't need Andrew Hussie or WhatPumpkin after the webcomic was finished. Homestuck has made pop culture references and current Internet memes every now and then, but I don't think it became this excessive or wink at audience kind of deal. It gets annoying pretty fast. Worst is going Member Berries to old fans that are under Stockholm Syndrome, reading this comic.
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Homestuck Beyond Canon being planned to be taking longer than the original base webcomic is very ambitious. Hussie and Whatpumpkin haven't even finished HIVESWAP after 10+ years since its original Kickstarter. If people who were in WhatPumpkin team that move onto the Homestuck Beyond Canon team under James Roach (who is even still working on the music for Hiveswap), couldn't even finish making a game that was paid in $2 million dollars full, how the fuck are they expecting to go OVER 9000 pages to beat the original? Also, aren't Vrissy and Harry cousins, technically? Sure Vrissy is not blood-blood related as she was adopted by Rose and Kanaya, but still being Rose's kid and Roxy being her Aunt, that would make her related to Harry. So troll incest of brother-sister is gross despite being a natural thing on Alternia, but human-troll cousin incest is okay? Talk about priorities on Earth C.
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goddamnwebcomics · 7 months
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Some feelings about that Kickstarter Pilot of P&C
So someone actually uploaded that animatic of Peter & Company, the one that was originally funded to be an animated pilot of the series through Kickstarter, and the results speak for itself. https://imgur.com/gallery/u4ysMiB 
Here are some screenshots as well if you fancy words from Jon’s mouth alone (Green Username): https://imgur.com/a/xA8oRr4 
I remember seeing this in the Peterverse server a year ago and honestly I was pretty disappointed. Don’t get me wrong. It’s a nice looking draft animation for what Jon pictures as an alright cartoon series for his main comic, but as I said before this is a DRAFT. After a DECADE since the project was FUNDED. This is the type of animatic that would probably take around maybe two-to-three years to make, and that’s assuming if this is the first or second one he made, so to see this as a result fills me with a lot of worries and doubts. I know he has multiple artists, voice actors and I believe a trusted publisher (The Channel Frederator Network) helping him, you can even visit his YouTube page and I believe in his Deviantart, Tumblr & Furaffinity pages (once you scrub through them) back when he was promoting it and other material around the old campaign, but once again his ambitions aren’t meeting reality. 
This short trek into looking up this animated pilot campaign for Peter & Company really reinforces one of Jon’s many problems: He has bad time management skills and poorly set priorities for his own work. From his webcomics, to his art, and even to this pilot, there’s only so many times I could run into this realization before the answer becomes too obvious to second guess anymore. It’s something I’ve grown more disappointed over when Lackadasiy’s animated pilot came out recently this year. You know, another webcomic that had a Kickstarter campaign two years ago and was successfully funded and released on YouTube for free under a publisher (Iron Circus Comics) in less of the time it’s taking for P&C to do? Yeah it’s most likely because the animated Lackadaisy short had a bigger crew, along with the comic being more popular and well known, but the series author Tracy Butler at least knew the scope of the short would take a lot more of her time and focus to finish than Jon seems to have thought with his series pilot. 
Having to look back into this whole thing makes me a little sad. It reminds me to not put too much faith into Jon learning from his past mistakes and improving from them again.
Yeah I remember you talking about this to me. It’s fucking insulting, and it really shows you Jon is a lazy asshole and doesn’t want to dedicate his time to anything.
Think about it, Peter and Company could have been one of the first animated series based on a webcomic in the post-Hazbin boom. But, maybe it is for the best since the actual comic isn’t that good either.
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notllorstel · 4 years
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is twisted fates gonna be a comic at some point? or writing :o
Comic according to the dozen of pages I’ve drafted so far. Now the really question... will it ever be finished?
I do plan to complete some pages proper but we shall see~
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BASTET: “As it turns out, the project has been due for this type of update for some time -- which the artist @tenicola​ (aka @teninini, colacanvas, and "Teni") finally got around to, after having enough headspace to approach it. 
“And just to avoid worrying anyone seeing this -- nope, Teni is not dropping DEITIES project anytime soon. She's not going anywhere, and neither am I! Or the rest of my pantheon! 
“But Teni mentioned she was worried about projecting that outcome, due to how inactive she's been online, and how quiet she's been about progress. She's hoping this update can add some clarity on what's actually going on, and what to expect going forward.”
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“The rest of this update is below the cut, as text mixed with panels. It's on the long-ish side, and while it's best to skim through everything for context, you can also skip to the section "SHIFT IN [PUBLIC] SCOPE" if you just want to get to the point.
“Without further ago, let's start with some history that Teni wanted to share for full context -- again, under the cut!”
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[ HISTORY OF DEITIES PROJECT ]
BASTET: “DEITIES Project -- and the main story for said project (Deities of Duat: The Chaos Seal), which is intended as a long form webcomic -- has been in development, privately and offline, since late 2014. Teni meant to keep it private for as long as possible, until she felt “ready” to share it.
“However, she was motivated to take the plunge and reveal the project's existence with these color tests and with this comic, as part of her coursework for her visual storytelling class. You know the one…”
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“The surge of encouragement from both her classmates and her followers motivated Teni to create this blog -- the one you're visiting right now! It was Teni's full intention to use this blog to share progress on the main story, as a full-length webcomic, while building and engaging her audience.”
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“However, along the way were a few... unforeseen obstacles that reared their head. Some obstacles were mitigated by making steady updates to the story and blog, but some were much more challenging, and she thinks it only fair to disclose some of them for context...”
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[ OBSTACLES OF LIFE ]
BASTET: “The first obstacle was the sudden onset of chronic lower back pain -- just before the launch of the DEITIES blog in 2016. She still has it to this day, and says this ache makes it unbearable to sit or stand in the same position for too long. Among several inconveniences this causes, it also means she can only draw in short bursts before her stamina taps out, or before needing pain relief -- like heat, ice, and pressure.”
“As you might imagine, it's not the most fun condition to have when you enjoy drawing! And it's taken a while for Teni to cope with this daily frustration. She's still planning to find answers and a treatment to help reduce it, but has also accepted that she's been dealt this hand -- not unlike other creatives that deal with some form of chronic pain.”
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“The back pain was one obstacle, but having to deal with different interpersonal struggles and friction was another. Some spiked her usual feelings of anxiety, and in one relationship's case, made her question whether or not the project was worth continuing. (On that note -- Teni does not want to call out anyone or guilt them, she just wanted to bring it up as a factor for the larger point she's making — just bear with us!)
“The third big obstacle a few years back, was having a day job that had an... ‘unfriendly’ work environment, and was paying a lot less income than she fairly deserved. And near the beginning of 2018, she was laid off from said job, putting a halt to any income she was earning only a week after signing the lease to her first apartment!”
“Teni didn't go into detail about those months of job hunting and taking tech classes, though she explains bits of it in previous updates. But the lack of financial stability at the time hung over her head constantly. The way she put it was: ‘It was hard to motivate myself to indulge in something I loved, but that didn't provide income, while I was in the middle of an extended job hunt.’"
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“She didn't expect all these obstacles in succession when she launched the project. And she admits that she felt a combination of frustration, impatience, and disappointment for not updating the project at the same pace she started.”
“This was not because of any pressure from followers -- she told me you all have been incredibly understanding and patient! It was because of the fact that the project had been publicly promoted for so long, and she set her own expectations and goals so high -- without factoring the likelihood of life getting in the way. There was also the lingering fear of disappointing a lot of people, if one day she had no choice but to stop the project for her own livelihood and health.”
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“Ah, why am I adding to this creative angst -- Teni didn't want this to be a sob story! I'll move on haha.”
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[ IN A BETTER PLACE ]
BASTET: “Thankfully, in spite of all those obstacles, things are turning around for Teni in this new decade. A year ago she found a job with a feasible income to support herself, and an overall healthy work environment within her team. She's also fostered healthier relationships with her family and friends, and even made closer connections with the best friends she's had for ages!”
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“And while her back pain is… still there, it's a manageable part of life that she's still determined to find answers for and improve.
“Not to mention that in the past year, she's been able to work on other projects, more quietly, and indulge in drawing other characters and fanart for fun. She's consumed more of her favorite media in the interim as well to support others, and to sate her own curiosity and interests.”
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“Moving on to how this relates to this update, now that we have some backdrop for what's been happening...”
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[ AREAS OF INTEREST ]
BASTET: “Again, Teni is not dropping DEITIES Project -- she admits the fear of having to make that call had crossed her mind, but it's not something she thinks she'll need to reconsider right now. Her bigger concern has been how to approach this project publicly, moving forward. And after giving it some thought, she's made some observations that may shed light on this answer.
“Teni wanted me to emphasize the idea of her doing a ‘reset’ for the public presentation and development of DEITIES Project -- not to change or hide the development thus far, but to reframe the project's scope -- what it's focus and goals are, more or less.
“...Oh-- looks like she made some visuals to help with this -- you two mind lending me a hand?”
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“You all might have figured it out by now, but Teni absolutely loves drawing character art and designs. She also likes panel-style comics, as well as the dialogue, expressions, and SFX that comes with it. She can work on them offline without prompting, but she also loves sharing what she comes up with!
“What she's less fond of sharing is some of the other... *ahem* unmentionables and time-consuming work that comes with traditional comics. Things that take hours to set up and hours to practice, let alone execute for the final product -- an unfortunate hurdle when you're a one-person production team, and you can only draw in small bursts at a time.”
“She initially tried to put off the more indulgent art that she liked, in order to focus the less-favored obligations... but she realized that this just made her feel demotivated to work on anything, and less got completed as a result.”
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“Overall, Teni's coming to terms with both her own limitations and her personal drive, and wants to shift her priorities accordingly for the project -- even if it goes against the grain of what's considered ‘good’  or well-meaning advice for a personal project.”
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[ SHIFT IN [PUBLIC] SCOPE ]
BASTET: “Instead of treating the DEITIES main story/comic as the ‘end game’ goal of this project -- and pouring all her available energy in preparing for it and hyping it up -- Teni wants to shift the main story as a future, and more private ambition, until she's in a better place to execute it and share it publicly.
“No, she does not have any estimate or TBD date for when this will be, or when she'll make public updates on it’s progress or launch. It may even remain private indefinitely. And for now, she's okay with this.
“Because (1) The main story "The Chaos Seal" is not the only story that's worth telling from this project. Smaller side- and backstories, and even small character interactions, have their merit as well -- something Teni learned from drawing askbox responses, completing memes with the cast, and character exploration with friends. And with the main story not sucking up all the oxygen, she thinks it'll leave room to tackle the others more easily -- whether they're planned ahead of time or are spur-of-the-moment, and as comics or different formats.
“(2) Removing the DEITIES main story from its public pedestal will also allow her to work on other non-DEITIES things as they crop up -- and with less irrational guilt to indulge in things that aren't ‘priority’ for completing the comic. Meaning more art of her original characters, fanart, giftart, collabs, memes and bandwagons, and other smaller projects. Heck, she might even give herself permission to relax.
“And (3), perhaps most importantly -- Teni realized that DEITIES Project shouldn’t have to start and end with the so-called main story, and placing the story aside wouldn’t mean the project suddenly becomes a waste of time -- as she originally worried about projecting when her life took a twist.
“DEITIES Project just… is. It already exists, and the characters and world already exist -- with or without a completed webcomic to validate that existence.”
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“But anyway, I side-tracked. The point is, Teni's planning to shift DEITIES project to just that -- a project, with room to continually grow, explore, and experiment with, and to engage with others as she feels comfortable, without the pressure of having a giant epic to tell.
“So while the main story and comic is going to shift to something more gradual and private -- the way it was originally meant to be -- this shift in scope will help adjust the project’s longevity, and also set the stage for some changes to be made around the blog, and for the public presentation for DEITIES.” 
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“However, that content will be less scheduled and remain sporadic -- things will ‘happen when they happen,’ but what Teni has in mind will hopefully be enjoyable for those following the project.”
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[ WHAT'S NEXT-- ]
BASTET: “Here’s the thing: we actually had more to share, but Teni made the call to save it all for another day -- to avoid making this update longer than needed, and to also avoid announcing any plans prematurely. No need to risk building pressure all over again or burning out, right?
“She asks for everyone’s patience and to give her another few weeks to re-calibrate things, address pressing questions, and work on some overdue housekeeping on the blog -- and to just draw whatever pops to her mind, cuz hey, why not? After that, she'll wait until any project items are already in the works and on the road to completion, before she announces that they're coming -- an ‘under-promise but over-deliver’ approach.
“But one thing you can look forward to are more featured deities from the main cast and the supporting cast -- including those colors tests she's been working on since last year, and then some! There's no shortage of inspiration or fodder, so to speak.”
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[ IN CONCLUSION ]
BASTET: “So to recap! DEITIES Project will be shifting its scope and priorities, so that the main story and comic is developed more privately, and more characters and lore will be explored online at a more manageable pace. On the surface, that may not look like much is changing, but hopefully this update can make expectations more clear.
“Teni knows that there may be some in the audience who may feel down about this decision, or who were looking forward to the webcomic to be completed above all else. She says that's totally fair, and encourages anyone looking for stories to check out her recommendations. But she also hopes you'll understand, and be willing to stick around for other content in the meantime.”
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"That brings Teni -- and me -- to one final point. Which is to sincerely thank you for all of your support, encouragement, and patience these past few years. In addition to things that are still in the works, there's a lot of content on this blog that had been inspired by everyone's engagement, which we can't thank you enough for!
“Teni and I, and everyone else from the pantheon, are excited about what’s next for Deities of Duat and DEITIES Project. And we’re looking forward to sharing more content, more freely, in the upcoming year for you all to enjoy.”
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marcianek · 4 years
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➻ Newest page ➻ Start reading from the beginning ➻ Vote for “Flow…” on TWC~ I've planned to go on hiatus for a long while now, and wrote about it before on both CF and SJ (including the 1st anniversary post on SJ, but sadly the newSJ got rid of the "News" section, so it all got lost) So, to recap: "Flow..." is going on hiatus, so that I can work on Chapter 2 and finish as many pages as I can, before I'll start updating it again. I did the same with Chapter 1 before, having few months worth of updates done in advance. However, by the end of 2018, and for the most of 2019, I was suffering from a plethora of health problems, which made working on the comic very difficult - if not outright impossible at times - with the most severe time being the first and second quarter of 2019. Eventually I've run out of the finished pages, and was forced to draw them "in real time", so if something sudden had happened, I had to skip a weekly update. In the end, I think I did pretty well regardless, skipping only 3 or so updates in 2019. I've also developed a very consistent working system, that would eventually let me complete more pages per week, and thankfully, I've slowly started accumulating them again. However this whole setup was still very taxing on my general condition, so, to lessen the strain on my health, and also try to prevent the situation from happening again, I decided to take a longer break from publishing the webcomic. I still will be working hard during the hiatus, so technically nothing changes for me, but not having to overexert myself and rush finishing the page for a weekly update will allow some breathing space during the slower days. There are also things regarding working on the webcomic, that I want to reconsider and experiment with, possibly readjust my priorities too. Chapter 1 gave me a ton of very valuable experience, and my current goal is to find out how can I complete more pages faster. This might include experimenting with style in search of something that's more time-efficient, but also visually appealing, or further improving my drawing techniques. It's a bit hard to do during an ongoing publication, since experimenting spontaniously can disrupt the steadiness and predictability of the work-flow and slow it down. I also want to -depending on whether the tone of the narrative allows it- try to implement some of my "derpy" artstyle (which some of you know from my bonus illustrations/incentives) into the main comic. Anyway, we will see how it goes! All that said, even with all those precautions, there's still a risk of me not being able to resume the webcomic in April 2020. Despite taking care of myself the best I can, and getting better since summer, my general condition still isn't the best. Just recently I have lost about 2,5 weeks due to rather persistent eye infection. All I could do at the time was reuploading my pages to Comic Fury, managing to spend 20 minutes max before the screen at a time. Thank heavens for the dark mode, but drawing was out of the question during that time. Of course this is something I want to avoid at all costs. I'm telling it just in case - and if that happens, obviously I will make proper announcements beforehand, to let you all know :) For now fingers crossed the current plan will work out! Once the webcomic resumes, it will go back to its original schedule, which is one page per week. Thank you everyone for all your support, Happy New Year... and see you next time! <3
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comicteaparty · 5 years
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February 28th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on February 28th, 2019, from 5PM - 7PM PST.  The chat focused on Zenchav by Draco Plato.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Zenchav by Draco Plato~! (http://khyatix.com/)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
Draco Plato
hmmmm
flips through chapters quickly
RebelVampire
just say all the scenes cause as the creator its the one time you can get away with it XD
Draco Plato
I'm sure I have a favorite
shiz everything exists on a neutral plan of emotion
RebelVampire
for my favorite scene im gonna pick that time everyone was pursued by spiky chia pets and oziel and ara argued to the point damian snapped his finger at them and told them to focus.
Draco Plato
I was leaning towards that myself too
RebelVampire
damian did what we all wanted to do deep down in that moment
Draco Plato
yeeeeeah
I love the finger snap
I always enjoy drawing the damon and lyall scenes the most
I like chapter 14 but I think it was a bit hurried seeming overall.
I picked up the pace for webcomic time but I think I should have slowed it down a bit there
that was my favorite chapter to draw recently tho cause damon and lyall
Kabocha
I think... My favorite scene is a toss up. I really liked Nadia and Damon's meeting -- Damon's priorities are basically mine: "OOO SPARKLY" http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume1/ZenchavVolume1#p=98 But I also really liked how crushed Damon was when he burnt up Liberty's body. http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume3/ZenchavVolume3#p=157 Can't do anything else? Well, at least I can make sure nobody asks too many questions right~?
Draco Plato
aaaaaaaaaaaaah
I have so many mixed feelings about damon burning his daughter's body
like was that a GOOD decision? it's so morbid
I always get a laugh out of that
Kabocha
It felt pretty emotional
and yessss
I really like the first volume a lot, to be honest. The art in it has a lot of character which helps the black and white pop
Draco Plato
yeah I agree! Whenever I re-read it I think the early chapters actually have a lot of charm to them
I used to be really bothered by the flaws but that doesn't really bother me now
Kabocha
Yeah They're cute! And... Damon was... very angsty in volume 2's start
Draco Plato
hahah his brief gangster look
RebelVampire
it was nice to see damon grow up from an innocent boy into angst rage machine into hi everyone im stay at home dad who makes jam
Kabocha
it is pretty fun when you get very... uh... ...I don't know the term but when you pull the expressions pretty far and make them somewhat more cartoony
Draco Plato
yeah! I agree. I think I pushed limits a bit more in the earlier chapters. Honestly I think my disdain for drawing shines through too much now
I mean, it all looks great, lmao
Kabocha
"Oh, I like it when you touch me" -- Sayeth Lyall, volume 2, page 12
Draco Plato
Aaaaaaaaaaah, I feel so awkward about those early scenes
where lyall's feelings start shining through
Kabocha
Lyall honestly just needs anyone's affection
RebelVampire
another scene i like is http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume3/ZenchavVolume3#p=42 where damon and lyall are flirting sort of and rex just shows hes watching and hes very bored. i think it was a great way to bring rex back in while also paying off on all that tension buildup of him coming back.
Draco Plato
he just needs damon's affection
Kabocha
...Damon's hair is also kinda kelpie-ish, so I meaaaaaaaan
Draco Plato
yeah I liked that scene too!! and that's true, I hadn't thought he looked a bit like kelpie there
I'm kinda with what Dark said about wtf is going on with his hair in chapter 5
like yep, that's why it lasted a very short time that look
oh i remember my fave scene now
Kabocha
What did Dark say?
Draco Plato
i need to find it
she wasn't a fan of the chapter 5 damon hair, which I agree with since I'm not a fan of it either
Kabocha
I don't dislike it, he just seems very... ...high stress right now
RebelVampire
i like to think damon's early life is characterized by phases. you got the angst phase, the emo phase, the cute kid phase, the weird flirt with your uncle phase
Kabocha
all business, no play
Draco Plato
there it is, the scene that always haunts me in re reads
oh that's true Rebel, it very much is
Kabocha
cough There's inappropriate jokes that one could make about coming in handy
But I'm not going to make them tonight
Draco Plato
I just...that line in retrospect is so BAD
Kabocha
But it's Lyall~
Draco Plato
i think that's the only time he really had pedo bear vibes
maybe not the only but the biggest
Kabocha
http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume2/ZenchavVolume2#p=38 This page, Lyall's like... "This woman's going to kill me, Damon, and everyone in this neighborhood"
Draco Plato
there's also that time
Kabocha
What does Nadia do, anyway? Is she actually a mob boss? I know she's gonna be different in the upcoming video, but... >:D
Draco Plato
Lyall thinking she's a homewrecker there ruining his chance at future happiness as Damon's husbando
Yeah she's the head of her mafia
her backstory is actually the same as the animated version but without the interference
https://youtu.be/gGdGFtwCNBE
that's my song for lyall in chapter five
Kabocha
"I feel like I've known her" -- "Oh, yeah, last time around, she tried to kill you a buncha times, and I heard she's gonna do it again."
Draco Plato
wheeeeezes
Kabocha
"Also, she's your sister. Or will be. Different lives and all."
Draco Plato
It just gets worse
#TrueLove
Kabocha
I wonder what their entanglements were like in previous lives >:D
RebelVampire
you know what other scene i like? this scene http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume2/ZenchavVolume2#p=48 where lyall tells damon he didnt love liberty. partly cause it was cute seeing damon be this angsty adult and get hit with the reality stick in such a way hes still little boy shocked that this is a thing that could happen. and it was also nice cause lyall revealed something in an angry outburst and thus one more truth was added to the truth pile
Draco Plato
i really should have made a chart for Nadia's lives, the main one I know that has her and Damon together before that life is when she was Lili's sister
Oh Oh I like that scene too!!
Kabocha
I would be interested in seeing Lili's sister
and aaaaaaaaaaaaa, yes. Lyall: Truth teller in bad situations
Draco Plato
I can always feel a mini heart attack when Lyall says he didn't love her
cause I know how much that hurts damon
Kabocha
"you made my mother a whore and you didn't even CARE?"
Draco Plato
Lili's sister doesn't have much to her, she married Muir at the same time as Lili but ended up leaving and letting Lili and Muir be alone
Damon was too pure then, lol(edited)
he was really hung up on the sleeping with his mom thing for a long time
Kabocha
I can't blame him, especially if he thought it was gonna damn Liberty to hell
but nope, just ends up with her coming back one day as a cute smol girl
Also... Lyall has no last name. JUST TAKE DAMON'S! nau
Where did the nickname Sha come from by the way?
Draco Plato
actually why didn't he take Liberty's last name
Oh!!! Lol nobody has ever asked before
She wanted to call him a shark but he lacks the bite so she dropped the k
looking back on this nickname it doesn't make much sense lmao
I think it originates from an earlier version that made more sense
RebelVampire
i like to think that lyall not taking a last name was his way of rejecting the permanence of their situation. but also not having a last name sounds helpful when in the mob. "Hey Joe you gonna kill that Lyall fellow we were ordered to kill?" "Which Lyall?" "I don't know man. Let's just pick one."
Draco Plato
truuuuue
altho how common a name is Lyall
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
"but joe theres like 20 other lyalls" "just kill them all"
Draco Plato
LOL
omg XD
Kabocha
It soon became the great Lyall purge of 1930
Draco Plato
Lyall: I don't have a last name because I'm waiting to marry you and take yours
Kabocha
Lyall probably used that pickup line a few times
"I don't have a last name, but why don't I borrow yours for the night~?"
Draco Plato
ffffft
sadly i don't think that's one he'd use since it's rather personal to him
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
also i'm not sure what y favorite scene is theres a lot of them lol
Draco Plato
it's okay, my mind went blank too
and I should know all the scenes
Kabocha
pick a volume, flip through, find your favorite
Draco Plato
i know cali's fave
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
which one
LMAO
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. As shown in the comic, Apus has been going on quite a recruiting spree. How do you think Damian will adjust to his new life situation, especially after what happened? How will Damian deal with Damon joining the Demon Council? What do you think the story is with Firosofi and Euripides? Will they adjust to their life there and will the others adjust to them? Will recruiting Draco go smoothly, or will matters be complicated because of Draco’s situation with B.I.T.E.? What do you think is up with Earth suddenly recruiting so many demons and non-humans all at once? Lastly, do you think Amai will learn to do field work, and how might it change her?
Draco Plato
i'mma delete that one for gore tho
Kabocha
Damian's going to angst a lot when he finds out his dad's on the Demon council. And then be like "MY FATHER BETRAYED US" And worry a lot. And continue to be grumpy until he becomes older Damian.
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
i feel like damian will go crazy and become numb to all the weirdness
and then take wizard drugs
become damon
Kabocha
But also they're just gonna ship him off to the future to hang out with his dad, soooo
Draco Plato
i feel like these questions would have been good for me to ponder before writing
OoO spoils Damian's immediate future, lolol
Kabocha
Ooop, Damian, you're gonna sleep with that hot bird-brained nurse~
Draco Plato
why is the Earth recruiting all these people, I just figured apus was understaffed
aaaaaah that spoiler!!!
their romance took a flight
Kabocha
It definitely did... You could say their hearts fluttered like little wings
Draco Plato
Vivi was born from a little egg
not that it's relevant but it's cute
RebelVampire
i like to think Earth just felt like it. was bored and said "you know what would be funny? is if i put all these demons at apus and force the people i 'hired' to get along with them. this sounds like a fun social experiment."
Draco Plato
I mean I feel that's about as hard as she thought about it
but now I feel I should think of a good reason and make it seem like I had something deep behind it
Kabocha
Vivi was born from an egg, eh? :3
I'm kind of curious now
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
plot twist, apus is just earth's ant farm but with people and demons
Draco Plato
yuuuuuus
omg XD
anytime someone mentions an antfarm I remember the one my bro had, where all the ants came dead except one and that one ant worked hard to bury all the other ants(edited)
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
rip ant
burying it's brethren
Draco Plato
antfarms are SAD
just burying all your dead kin
symbolically damon will be the ant
and we'll pretend this was a metaphor
Kabocha
Apus as an ant farm? I guess The Earth hasn't changed. She's just gonna try to burn it next time Damon shows up
Draco Plato
nah tho, Apus is meant to protect the earth
probably
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
maybe
we just dont know
Draco Plato
but she allows the demon council too
and is an aid to rex
so the earth plays both teams
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
news reporter interviews the earth "Miss earth? why did you create apus?" "lol idk i just wanted to"
RebelVampire
ya know consider earth talks to both sides, its more like these are her little play soldiers and she got more from the store so she could have an epic battle.
Kabocha
Cadence got her planet in the end
Draco Plato
baaaasically
her being the earth is totally karma for having made a planet
and not being it's planet seed
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
i just imagined like a fight going on and someone jumping at someone
but in realityits just earth throwing one of her play soldiers at another one
Kabocha
She doesn't seem to hate it at least. She's probably like, "heh, I'll show you whose Karma fucked them up"
Draco Plato
muahahaha
I think the rational was that she wanted to see which side would win out
the planet itself is neither good nor evil, a neutral party
if a planet becomes totally good or totally evil it will end
because it must exist within duality
so that makes me think her ultimate goal would be to make it either totally good or totally evil so that it can die
since that would be freedom in a sense for her soul
Yes, beautiful, perfect earth
she don't care which time wins, just so long as someone does
Kabocha
YEP
she finally got it
a shame Samantha couldn't think big tho
Draco Plato
so much of Soul Hymn is still in the air tbh, especially with Sam
Kabocha
unless she's working with Decebal...
Draco Plato
cause I thought it'd be fun to make her more of an important baddie
Kabocha
"Yeah, I'll let you be the planet seed if you help me out*
Draco Plato
fffffft, being a planet seed is the last thing she wants
Kabocha
Sam wasn't really listening, she heard "You get a planet"
Draco Plato
it may be fun if sam is an antagonist to both erik and decebal
since if she regains her powers she'd be quite a formidable foe
RebelVampire
maybe lets bring the topic back to zenchav at this point XD
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
"you get a planet and you get a planet"
Draco Plato
Decebal becomes Oprah
Damian will not be pleased Damon joined the DC
nope
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
but hey he gets to spend time with his daddy
i guess
Draco Plato
I actually don't know if they'll ever meet face to face during that time tho
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
O_O
damon and rex i mean
lmao
Draco Plato
LOL
Damon is so happy about that, yeeeeah
RebelVampire
my question implied damian adjusts at all. which i would argue damian doesnt adjust to anything. just sits in eternal grump land.
hey
damon got new clothes already
id say thats a great dad
Draco Plato
LOL you make an excellent point Rebel
but they're not blue see, they have to be blue, so he's sad
Kabocha
Question: Will we get to see Mr. Philosophy get a sword
Draco Plato
Yes!
Kabocha
YES
Draco Plato
Firo has two swords
RebelVampire
i think Amai will be fine with field work cause firo can do all the heavy lifting metaphorically speaking. or ya know he could sip tea and wave at her from afar
Draco Plato
Firo actually can't kill anyone because it would be too kind a death for them
Kabocha
Then he gets to be mad at Dakin and Amai all the time :3
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
one to put jam on his toast and the other to poke things
Draco Plato
this is true, firo will do way more heavy lifting than Amai
buuuuut Amai will probably have plant powers like Dakin
which wasn't in the story originally so tentatively she'll be a bit more bad ass when she awakens to that
firo doesn't get mad
RebelVampire
by that implication amai doesnt know she has the plant powers?
Draco Plato
if firo gets mad that's gotta be something really really bad
nah Amai thinks she has no powers atm
she's been very sheltered
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
would he get mad if someone cut him off on the freeway
Kabocha
bwahahahaha
Draco Plato
No O_O
Kabocha
WHAT
he is inhuman!
Draco Plato
He got mad once as a kid tho
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
say if it isnt so
Draco Plato
kid cut off his ponytail
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
off with his head
Draco Plato
yus O_O you don't touch Firo's hair
but he probably wouldn't get mad at that now
but there is a time when he will get mad
maybe more than one
Kabocha
He didn't even get mad when his life was threatened, so
I mean
he's a pretty chill dude
RebelVampire
will it be at damon for damon being a little rex puppet murderer?
Kabocha
I almost wrote "Chill dad" and then I was like
"naaaaaaaaaah"
Draco Plato
oh firo having his life threatened was like a tuesday, no biggie
nah he won't get mad at damon
EveryoneLovesDamon
RebelVampire
Firo: I'm not mad at you, Damon. Just disappointed.
Draco Plato
YES!
that'll happen
Damon: But I looooove him father
/shot
RebelVampire
damon goes home and rex tells him the same thing, that hes not mad, just disappointed. only then rex kills some kid or something.
Draco Plato
Rex just makes Damon's wounds heal slower
when he's mad at him
RebelVampire
you know
thats a lot more tame then i realistically expected
good on rex
Kabocha
sorry, I got distracted reading OoO again
Poor Damian
Draco Plato
yeah, damon is the fave
RebelVampire
slightly less of a jackass than he couldve been
Draco Plato
ffffft, that's a good reason to get distracted, lol
Rex to damon's other siblings is pretty swift to kill
so they have to tip toe a lot more
I think Damian is pretty lucky
got to go to school in the future, meet all those kooky people
damian at apus is interesting tho since there's more reasons than just damon at the DC he's sour about
RebelVampire
on the otherhand, he got to go to school and meet all those kooky people and deal with a huge jump in technology and his dad being a wizard. it may perhaps contribute to the grump.
you mean like liberty being dead O_O
Draco Plato
nervous laughter
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
shes fine
its just jam
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. In recent events, Damon has been forced by his father to join the Demon Council. What activities do you think Damon will be doing for the Demon Council? Will Damon manage to fit in there, or will he stick out too much? Will he at least be able to get along with his new sister Theia? As time passes, do you think Damon will come to agree with Rex’s ideals? Or, do you think he’ll stay steadfast in his own beliefs? Do you think Damon will find out Damian is alive and with Apus? How might this change his actions in the future? Also, how might his relationship with Lyall change him? Do you think Rex will keep his promise of not hurting Lyall? Finally, will Damon reconnect with Purusha’s life to escape the darkness?
Kabocha
wait, I'm mis-remembering things... Who is Dakin's dad XD
Draco Plato
Firosofi
Amai is his mom
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
firosofi more like
Draco Plato
sorta
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
firosofty
Draco Plato
it's complicated
wheeps
was so surprised when there was a Firo in Baccano
https://tenor.com/view/firo-playing-baccano-gif-11864371
RebelVampire
#spoilers
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
i think rex will make damon think hes gonna make him do really bad stuff, but he just makes him sit down and play chess all day
Draco Plato
Rex: Damon, I want you to be the greatest chess master to ever live. Damon: Father....I hate to break it to you but that's never going to happen, I'm an idiot.
damon can probably play chess
RebelVampire
maybe damon will get super good at chess cause chess is half just about remembering the patterns and knowing the best move for each pattern.
and damon can make little dresses for the chess pieces
Draco Plato
ffffft
Kabocha
Lyall would make very pretty chess pieces
Draco Plato
Lyall is very good at chess
Kabocha
Damon would make them regal clothing, befitting their stations in life
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
rex walks in sees his chess set all mangled with pretty dresses
Draco Plato
damon says plz he's not that much of a loser
weeps
I think Damon's ideals already died long ago
he mostly just wants to not die and not have Lyall die
probably
Kabocha
he'll get better one day
Draco Plato
when he goes insane
What will damon be doing at the DC ponders
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
eat donuts
Draco Plato
a mystery
RebelVampire
hes gonna make up for lost time. go on fishing trips with rex. fight over a stuffed animal with theia, etc. etc.
Draco Plato
Damon can't taste donuts tho
€heshire777
Nggh, I missed it
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
plot twist DC means donut council
Draco Plato
omg XD
€heshire777
Oops
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
yer right on time cheshire
Draco Plato
oh yeah, him and Theia will wrestle all right
RebelVampire
we still have an hour left to go
€heshire777
Too bad I didn't read all of it...
Draco Plato
that's okay~!
it is 400 something pages
€heshire777
I usally do tho
Ah well
Draco Plato
no worries~
Kabocha
Well, that's fine Cheshire! You can chime in about what you did read
or are you just here to talk about how much you didn't?
€heshire777
I'll talk! I confess!
Kabocha
https://giphy.com/gifs/the-simpsons-excellent-mr-burns-8fen5LSZcHQ5O
So, I think it'll be interesting going forward, to see what happens more with Firo and his buddies -- mostly because I read the original draft once upon a time, and Amai is very dear to me. XD I wanna see her do more stuff! Yell at her mom! Ask Pavonis why he's such a stick in the mud
RebelVampire
its also fine to just live read and comment your feelings as you read, @€heshire777 ~!
Draco Plato
awwww, I'll make sure to put her in more knowing that ;3;
Kabocha
So uh, is Pavo's original... backstory... still valid
Draco Plato
yus I think so
Kabocha
wherein he was so in love with Earth and...
cackle
RebelVampire
you cant just ask pavo why he's a stick in the mud. mostly because i expect itll wind up like that time he tried to explain apus to damian and damian was just like "whaaaaat"
Draco Plato
he lived in ancient greece sometime
LOL
Pavonis: You know what, you're clearly not going to get this, go see the nurse
Kabocha
Pavonis has no middle ground either. Either he's with Earth and Apus, or he's a demon, helping Rex commit atrocities.
Draco Plato
pavonis has a really really thin line between good and evil
pavonis would be evil for the earth
he wouldn't second guess it
Kabocha
http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Specials/ZenchavSpecials#p=64 I see you, Sotiris (http://khyatix.com/world <- see the dark reddish brown-life)
Draco Plato
loooooool
i really like that special
and it's plot based too
but sotiris looks like a freakin chef there
I keep wanting to do more with Minos, now that they're at the DC I'm hoping I can have him show up
RebelVampire
i do think thats the best of the specials. just cause it was nice to see lyall before he became a bitter old house wife who was jilted by rex.
yes
do that
cause with this special in mind i want to see minos and lyall interact
Kabocha
Yeah! I wanna see what's happened to Minos -- Rex didn't kill him for that but I do wonder what he'd have done to him
RebelVampire
cause for lyall its been eons, for minos probably not that many eons
Draco Plato
yeah!! it actually hasn't been that long for Minos since lyall was pregnant with rex's kids
before then Lyall and Minos used to whore around together
Kabocha
Rex disappears for a few minutes, comes back with Lyall and an extremely scarred Damon
Draco Plato
i mean they never slept with each other but they'd pick up women together
YEP
It's actually probably been a few years since Theia got there
but between rex dropping lyall off and picking damon up that's probably a few days at the DC
if Rex bothered to wait, which I think he did cause he changed his clothes
but in one of my stories that may just be an hour later
Kabocha
Rex goes to get some tea
remembers, "Oh yeah, I should pick up Lyall."
Draco Plato
and change my clothes while I'm at it :>
/shot
that's just damon tho
probably
altho rex is pretty fashionable
Kabocha
Hehehe
So anyway, there's reincarnations, time travel shenanigans, and lots and lots of suffering for Damon.
RebelVampire
the changing clothes is just part of their genes. encoded on their dna.
Kabocha
And we're just getting started
Draco Plato
Lyall can do that
he often makes clothes with his powers
since he can make any organic material so he makes it soft like fabric
RebelVampire
maybe its a rule in the DC. no outfit is allowed to be worn for over 3 hours.
Draco Plato
nah, that's the rule in OoO
7 times damon?!?
if it's a joke nobody will blame the creator for clothing ADD
RebelVampire
i wonder if therell be a love triangle between damon, lyall, and minos.
Kabocha
Oh my
Draco Plato
Oh nooooooo
minos is an asshole so probably not
amongst other reasons
but alternatively will sotiris and theia ever have a thing
Kabocha
https://giphy.com/gifs/jaw-drop-oooooh-6FymBmqKeBrl6
Draco Plato
I honestly don't know atm
RebelVampire
well theyd at least be a sexy pairing
and lyall could make "hey stop touching my daughter maybe" faces
Kabocha
Having read Out of Order, I kind of can't wait to find out about how Damon and Claire meet in this life. I've heard rumors that it is ... bordering on "not good"
Draco Plato
oooooooh, it's fun!
I really like randolph and claire at apus
they were actually with each other longer than they were with damon
not as a couple of course
and Damian is older than both of them, lolol
well maybe not randolph, i dunno, it's a toss up
RebelVampire
one day after many people die, damian will sit there going "wait a second im the older person here"
Kabocha
Randolph and Claire were a duo?
Draco Plato
oh gawd no
but they both worked at Apus together
Claire was raised there from age 13 and Randolph took care of security
Randolph had his own room that he stayed in almost exclusively but people have to visit him cause he's the techno master
uh room being where all his security systems are
claire was a field worker though
so basically claire and damian would visit him and bicker
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. An ominous tone seems to be setting in on the future. What do you think Pavonis meant in saying that Firosofi’s arrival signaled “certain things were set into motion?” Does it have something to do with the declaration of war that Oziel claimed recruiting Damian would be? Is it something else entirely that has more to do with Firosofi, Damon, or someone else? Of the characters we’ve met, who in Apus and who in the Demon Council do you think will clash first? What do you think will happen? Overall, do you think the conflicts between Apus and the Demon Council will ever be solved? As a last bonus, what time periods do you think we’ll see in the comic considering it involves time travel?
Kabocha
Firosofi's going to take over the story soon, and we're gonna see him go face down his destiny... And reclaim his last name...
X
..................No?
RebelVampire
wait wait
this is why lyall didnt have a last name
theyre going on the quest together
Kabocha
Firosofi X and Lyall WHY
Draco Plato
fffffffffft
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
and something Z
Draco Plato
will they ever even meet
who knows
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
o wait zenchav
Draco Plato
muahahah
what time periods would people want to see
Kabocha
There we go. The mysteries of the plot, explained.
Draco Plato
i have some up in the air atm
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
cavemen
Draco Plato
LOL
dies
Kabocha
I'd honestly like to see some mid-2000s Damon. Baggy jeans, Anime hair... Debating who's better: Trunks or Vegeta
Draco Plato
That we will see!!
already in there
Kabocha
(It's totally Trunks, by the way.)
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
damon: ugga ugg lyall: ugga ugga damon: ugh >_>
€heshire777
Steampunk Damon
Draco Plato
I do love trunks but i love vegeta too
steampunk would be pretty awesome
I think I can do that
Kabocha
Damon WOULD go for a Steampunk aesthetic
Draco Plato
he totally would
He's going to have a hell of a motorcycle collection, lol
Kabocha
Next world they go to in OoO will be a steampunk world, totally
Draco Plato
Claire's original clothing aesthetic was supposed to be steampunk too
but it looked too out of place
that'd be good for OoO tho, i'll think about it for that
cause I have it kind of wide open atm for where it's going
oh I know where i can fit steampunk into Zen
muahahah
€heshire777
Goth
RebelVampire
i cant think of a good time period so im just gonna go with ancient egypt. where someone can sneak into a tomb and write a message in the hopes it confuses the heck out of future archaeologists
Draco Plato
goth will be in the animated version!
ancient egypt would be interesting, I hadn't considered that
i remember an older version I had them live in ancient persia for awhile
Kabocha
YES
Ancient Persia would be awesome!
€heshire777
Chinese?
Kabocha
Some of the clothing they have in pseudo-historical Bollywood films... it's so pretty
Draco Plato
Chinese would be good too!! I was just appreciating their clothing the other day
true!!!
Damon will go to india at one point
Kabocha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7K4vGYL9zI Allow me to share this song with you
Draco Plato
!!!! I LOVE THAT SONG
that actor does such a good job in that movie too
RebelVampire
thats good damon gets to go to india. i think it will suit him ;3;
€heshire777
Caveman?
Kabocha
It also fits the overall reincarnation theme, too, I think
Draco Plato
cavemen would be so weird XD
€heshire777
I like weird
RebelVampire
if lyall went with him, cavemen would murder him cause thats 0 tech zone
Draco Plato
oh yeah, that's right Firo is from India too
Lyall says that sounds like where Rex would send him
€heshire777
Ok, and lost you again...
Kabocha
Firosofi's one of the recently introduced characters -- he's more clearly introduced here: http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume3/ZenchavVolume3#p=63
€heshire777
That's just about where I'm at
Draco Plato
oh yeah~!
he's also Haranasa
€heshire777
If you say so...
Kabocha
Well, Draco would be the one to say so... as the creator
RebelVampire
are we going to get to see oziel more? i need more oziel spunk in my life.
Kabocha
http://khyatix.com/Zenchav/Volume3/ZenchavVolume3#p=80
Draco Plato
coughs I'm honestly not sure what Oziel's future is in the story atm
but I can add him more if you want
I know some other people liked him too
ah both names at once there, lolol
€heshire777
Who was that again? (edited)
RebelVampire
more i just think theres potential between him and damian. cause of the whole ya know, you got my sister murdered
Draco Plato
that fellow is oziel
€heshire777
ah
He's cool
Draco Plato
yeah I agree Rebel, I've been thinking that should be explored more too
I always like Oziel's hair
Kabocha
I like Ara better
Draco Plato
fun fact he was in a wheelchair for a portion of his life
Kabocha
and I wanna know what the fuck Ara did to get his future lives the way he did XD
Draco Plato
LOL
Kabocha
(But this... is not... in Zenchav yet... I'm speaking partly about stuff that I know that is... spoilers...)
OK Draco, Draco
Draco Plato
Ara ara ara, ahahah
Kabocha
if you could pick one character that's not Damon to make super sparkly
who would you choose
Draco Plato
Firo~
€heshire777
Atlantis would be cool
Draco Plato
Firo was originally the main
Atlantis is a great idea
yeah I can use atlantis
Kabocha
atlantis would be cool
€heshire777
I'll just keep suggesting stuff as long as you'll let me
Moon base
Draco Plato
loooooool, would be too sailor moon
Kabocha
DRACO I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE SO MUCH COOL STUFF
Draco Plato
awwwwww ;3;
I really want more firo now
I never get to draw him
but i'll be in the most recent chapter
€heshire777
Norse?
Viking era?
Draco Plato
That's a good idea too, I could do that
I used to love Norse mythology
altho marvel kinda eeeeehed me a bit to it
even tho i like marvel
€heshire777
Yeah. same
Marvel nut
Draco Plato
me too
well....I haven't read all the comics
cause there's ALOT
€heshire777
Oop, cell service
Bye
RebelVampire
i was just about say draco, youre gonna be stuck drawing firo for quite a while now in this upcoming arc.
XD
Draco Plato
laters, Cheshire :3
Not as much as I'd like cause he mostly stands in the BG
which means I'll cut him out of panels a lot for drawing time
buuuut I think the chapter after he really stands out
and tbf shading his hair sucks so much
RebelVampire
this almost sounds creepy. draco and amai talking in the forefront, firo just in the background of the shot smiling at the reader all the time, as if to say i see you.
Draco Plato
that'd be so in character for Firo XD
this is why he can't be the MC
actually I think most of it is Draco talking to his peeps tho
buuuuuut
I dunno maybe I'll add in more firo
cause him just standing there in the BG of chapter 13 was kinda lame too
RebelVampire
maybe he and draco can at least share a warm hug
CalimonGraal(Fenauriverse)
i wanna see them hug
:y
Draco Plato
>w> well that will probably happen
draco can leap onto him in a bear hug
Kabocha
Hugs for everyone!
RebelVampire
i cannot picture this bear hug. although i can picture euri and amai being like wtf
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@sugareclair and @indubitaburi sent me these prompts like a long while ago and I forgot to answer them so here they are !!! sorry for the wait
🦋4. Any minor characters that have either taken over or branched off into their own stories?
That was originally going to be the case with Hack, Seed and Brick from Hone no Gazo, as they were gonna get their own story, but I had no ideas to go off of it so it never happened. I always love episodes dedicated to minor characters in a story, because chances are the minor characters are the ones I like lmao, so when I do sit down to do a big story they will probably get their chance to shine in a separate thing.
WAIT now that I've been thinking about it, there's a character from Look Who's Back I have not previously talked about her as far as I know, but that'll be long so I'll save it for another post.
🎨 6. When creating a character, do you come up with the visual concept or the written concept first?
It varies. In some cases, I see the character in my head first and have to draw it, and in other cases I'll have a vague (or clear) idea of what a character is like but no idea what they look like. Artie is an example of the former, and Marco the latter.
📌 7. Do you have characters that you know you’ll never use, but can’t bear to get rid of/recycle?
Some of my neopets. Leo is a christmas kougra that as far as I know I'm never gonna use for anything again--- I only ever roleplayed him with my friend Katie/Kanga's neopets, and while Leo ages in real time, they did not. And something just kinda feels :^/ to me about a 23 year old dating a 16 year old, so I dropped that connection. I had never thought of anything else for him outside of this group, and don't really intend to, but it just feels wrong letting go of him. I guess the same can be said for a lot of my neopets, because I know very few people that are still active there or want to create friendships/relationships with other neopets.
Alicia (this will probably be the first and last time she's mentioned here, too) was a fancharacter from my friend Andrea/Casper's (@loscomicos) webcomic, but since the webcomic has since ceased updating, she doesn't really have anywhere to go and is associated with a time where I was kinda ... bratty?? So I'd rather not recycle her, either. She's just there. For some reason I havent chunked her page on my weebly, either. You're on thin ice, Alicia.
✒️ 11. If you have characters that embody certain traits of yours—good or bad—has writing them changed how you view those traits? Has it affected you in any way?
Uhhhh I guess I have two. Rajah was written (actually, rewritten) with some of my own self-observed traits in mind, and Howo was not, but I accidentally ended up having some of her traits.
The traits Rajah and I share are... mostly negative. There's that nonexistent confidence, where at least Rajah feigns having some. The irritability, though most of the time Rajah doesn't try to hide it. I won't list off every single thing because this would get pretty depressing pretty quickly. In that same fashion, though, I also write Rajah to where he actually is truly a good person, but he's too blinded by his own shortcomings to realize it.
Howo is unlucky in love, and after one particular relationship where she was lead on for a year, has some bad trust issues. When I first created her, I didn't realize she had depression, but after years of finding out more about her, she definitely does. She also has a tendency to overthink things a bit too much. At first, I thought, "well at least I'm not that far deep," over the past year, I've thought about it, and... whoops. I'm probably treading that line.
🌩 16. Is there a character of yours who’s a real struggle to write/draw? Why do you think that is?
Quite a few of my AC characters, I'm thinking about them specifically because often they're the ones people ask about and I'm just "i dont know!!" Some of them (I think of a lot of the Pineappa kids) I still don't have them entirely figured out. I can't figure out how they'd react to certain situations. I hope I can figure them out.
💎 18. Is there anything you really wish you could do, character-design-wise, that you feel is outside your current skillset? A concept that you wish you could pull off but are uncertain about?
I'm working on that now, but design wise, I want to make characters that are beefier, chubbier, and sometimes both. Right now I'm trying to get down understanding anatomy more (practicing figure drawing has helped), so I can stylize it. I already have some - Marco, Velvet, and Frieda come to mind - but I feel I can do better.
🏆 19. What’s more important to you: visual design, unique personality, a trendy character aesthetic, etc? If you’re not sure, then what’s the first thing you usually nail down in a character?
When I make an OC, most of the time, my main priority is design. I have some characters that I've had for years but still don't entirely know who they are. There are some ocs of mine that I don't feel are very complete yet, and if you'll notice, they're the ones I usually respond with "I don't know" when asked about them. Because I honestly don't.
Visual design is important to me of course, but if the personality is flat then I can't really get invested in them. I'm working on it.
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Guardians of the Animal Kingdom
It’s an action fantasy adventure webcomic by Jonathan “Chimney” Ang. 
The world in GOTAK is split into four separate animal clans (Reptile, Avian, Amphibian, and Mammal) living in relative peace and prosperity. Each of these clans are protected by their own Core Guardians, basically super powered martial arts trained animal people, fighting off anyone/anything that poses a threat to their lands. One of those threats being a purple carnivorous pine marten named Sinistella, a disgraced ex-guardian banished from the Mammal clan by her own sister, Stella, now seeking revenge and power. With a plan to devour and steal the abilities of every Core Guardian to finally get the respect she believes she deserves, there’s no one who can stop her. Except for maybe not fully accounting for one naïve and shy macaw named Coral who will have to work up the courage to venture out of her comfort zone to warn others of Sinistella’s activities and hopefully put a stop to her before things could get worse for everyone.
Despite the interesting premise and plot, the comic suffers from some rough writing and pacing issues, not helped by the author also constantly changing their art style and character designs throughout the comic’s run. While there is a rebooted version of GOTAK on the author’s personal website, mostly so they could remove the vore aspect from one of the main villain characters, it currently hasn’t really gone very far due to the author putting their priorities into other parts of their work. It’s best if you just read the original one for now through their Furaffinity gallery (side note: you may have to look through their main gallery for certain pages since the author never made navigational tools for any of the pages nor placed all of their pages in the sub folder of the comic).
Oh this sounds completely like a typical furry faction war webcom-WAIT WHAT.
Yeah I want to riff the old version because it sounds like more unhinged of the two comics.
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