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music-orthemisery · 2 days

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Pre-Folie Release Madness of (p)2- A Timeline

After spending a few days in cuckoo bananas world thanks to the video re: Patrick's best man speech, @grandtreeangel and I have some things to slide across the table.

Between October 19, 2008 and November 7th, 2008, FOB played a series of shows leading up to the release of Folie a Deux. Each show featured a Pete/Patrick banter moment that, when put together, creates a very...interesting narrative.

October 19th - Birmingham, England show

Pete making a Top Gun reference to the $20 bar bet scene while Patrick plays the Top Gun theme song.

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The scene in question: "Total carnal knowledge...of a woman this time, on the premises"

October 22nd - London, England show

First live performance of Patrick's "Love Lockdown" cover

Please see @grandtreeangel’s post HERE for more context on this totally normal thing Patrick did.

October 25th - Lille, France show

OG "my little cabbage" moment Pete, in French, says to Patrick, "You are beautiful, my little cabbage."

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October 27th OR 28th - Blog post

Pete posts this on his Tumblr . It says 10/27, but there's some disagreement on time zones so it may be 10/28. EITHER WAY...

Originally, this linked to a clip from the movie Love, Actually. In this scene, a man confesses his love to a woman who is married to his best friend.

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There's plenty of debate about this movie, scene, and storyline in general, but we aren't here for that right now!!!

Let's just focus on the facts:

Woman. Married. To BEST FRIEND.

The man was the best man AND the videographer at the wedding.

This whole moment is done secretly. He confesses, they kiss, she goes back inside and tells her husband it was just some carolers.

In general, this whole story arc is ripe with longing and unattainable love due to a marriage keeping the man from being with the woman.

I...wonder what this sounds like...

October 28th - Toronto, Canada show

Love Lockdown cover where Patrick says, "That's for you, Pete."

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Again, Patrick being very normal!!!

October 29th - Blog Post

Pete contributes an entry to Bill's "Mondayeyes" poetry club on friendsorenemies.com:

Credit to @alphadog's post for this HERE

The entire poem is quite impactful, but a few lines of interest:

"Where do you get off?" or more like "how"

and...

"You chose this"

When Pete uses quotes, it's noted that this indicates things that have been said to him.

There are scents and spells that keep us coming together, there are sparks that keep us forever

The art of keeping up disappearances

Also, big hello to some Rat-A-Tat lyrics

Whenever I could make the sweat roll backwards and your pulse stream in reverse

(Big thank you to @dykeandyhurley for sending this to me)

November 6th - Boston, MA show

Pete shares the story about Patrick's best man speech.

Huge props to @predoom for finding this moment!

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If you haven't seen Top Gun (?!), the context here is very important:

The line "Ice, fire, or clear," is said in the scene where Goose dies.

Scene: "Ice, Fire or Clear!"

Also, it should be noted that, to Pete, he is Goose and Patrick is Maverick.

The fact that Patrick picks this quote to say to Pete...in his best man speech...at PETE'S WEDDING. A quote said when Maverick LOSES Goose.

AND...apparently no one else in the reception quite...get's it. Pete is the only one who does. That line was just for Pete. From Patrick.

Of all the lines in that movie, he picks that one, from that moment.

Then, of course...

We have "The Kids Aren't Alright."

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Featuring the lyrics:

Stuck in the jet wash Bad trip I couldn't get off And maybe I bit off more than I could chew And overhead of the aqua blue

Along with Pete's annotation:

November 7th - Philadelphia, PA show

Patrick sings Lullabye.

Take a peek at this post for all of that mess.

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"Well, Bronx was about to be born!"

Sure, sure. I'm not DENYING the relevance there. Just. Go look at the post, damn it. Trust me.

And then...?

Nothing. They take a break, Bronx is born, and then they play a show in Columbus, OH on December 1, 2008. This whole little back and forth ends. Folie a Deux is released on December 10th and...well...we all know what happens after that.

#absolutely fucking insane honestly #we've been obsessing over this all day #adult responsibilities? what are those in the face of p2 lore?!#anyway. hope you enjoyed the fruits of our crazy #p2 #peterick #pete wentz #patrick stump #fall out boy #folie a deux #pre-hiatus #hijinx and tomfoolery

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sticker-time · 5 months

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more pics i managed to scrape off the old fob website from 2003! they didn't load for the first time but i rechecked and these were the ones i could get

PART 1 | PART 2 | PART 3

#fall out boy #patrick stump #pete wentz #joe trohman #andy hurley #fob #take this to your grave #pre-hiatus

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thereyvan · 11 months

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pre-hiatus and post-hiatus? nah. these are the real subtypes of Fall Out Boy fans

note: this has been designed to be at least somewhat comprehensible to non-fans and new fans

type 1: the regulars. these are the majority of FOB fans. whether they joined before, during, or after the late 2009 to early 2013 hiatus, whether they prefer the fandom nickname of Car-Crash Hearts, Overcast Kids, Youngbloods, or Fobbies, these are the fans that make up most of the fanbase. type 1s tend to like most of FOB's output, save for a few songs they're not that fond of. they probably follow the band's socials and maybe the band members' socials. overall, these are the FOB fans you're most likely to meet on the internet or irl. they can overlap with types 5 and 6, but are more on the down-low about it

type 2: the stans. these are the really obsessive fans. they insist that they like everything FOB has put out and have probably heard the various 2001 demos. they're the fans that make it their life mission to go to as many FOB shows as possible and get barricade each time. a few of them get downright creepy with their stalking. it was a type 2/6 overlap that had a hand in causing Patrick Stump to leave social media. understandably, most other fans are not fond of these. they tend to overlap with type 5, occasionally overlapping types 3 and 4 as well

type 3: the pre-hiatus gatekeepers(i know i said pre-hiatus ain’t a subtype, but this doesn’t refer to all pre-hiatus fans). usually, these fans joined the fandom between the band's formation in mid-2001 and the hiatus and are self-proclaimed “elder emos.” they put all of FOB's pre-hiatus work on a pedestal and degrade their post-hiatus work. they also tend to look down on anyone who joined the fandom after the hiatus. type 3s are the entitled elitists of the fandom. they tend to cross over with types 2 and 5 and occasionally 4. if they’re also a type 5, they're almost certainly horny for Pete Wentz. the one good thing about them is that the type 2 overlaps are the most likely to spread appreciation of Joe Trohman and Andy Hurley

type 4: the smol-beanifiers. these are the annoying asses who infantilize the everliving shit out of Patrick. they noticed his adorkableness and introversion and exaggerated those traits to hell and back, justifying themselves by pointing out his endearing nature. i mean, while he is quite the cutie, these people take it way too far. they're the ones who tend to call Patrick a "smol bean" and act as if his sweetness makes him completely innocent, most just flat-out ignoring that that man canonically fucks. those that don't ignore that that man fucks almost always overlap with type 5 and are probably Peterick-loving fujoshis. type 4s were everywhere on mid-2010s Tumblr and Wattpad, but are less common now. most of them matured into type 1s, but some only worsened into type 2s. either way, there’s an all but 0% chance that they don’t overlap with type 6

type 5: the simps. these are the fans that are down bad for at least one of the boys- some might say they're down colossal. type 5s can overlap with any other type and are the most likely to have an AO3 account. there's really not much else to say about these lil degenerates

type 6: the Patrick lovers. yes, there's enough of these to get their own type. these fuckers- who can overlap with any other type- absolutely love Patrick. they are the #1 Soul Punk and Truant Wave defenders. notably, a decent chunk of the type 6s on the Fall Out Boy sides of Twitter and Tumblr("fobtwt" and “foblr”) are transmascs who project themselves onto him, relating to his insecurity about his body, the resulting fondness for wearing layers, and him being a measly 5'4". these features have also led a lot of generally insecure fans to attach themselves to him. there's also a lot of neurodivergent type 6s, as Patrick himself has ADHD. he also has asthma, which has led many fans to be even more in awe of his belting ability. a lot of them are also unspeakably horny for this man, seeing him as a certified DILF. i am admittedly one of these people

EDIT: i didn’t mention the type 6 lesbians because i figured that was just a given

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greycaelum · 10 months

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Since kouki from the future time traveled to the past, i have an idea if saika from the future traveled to the past too!

Hiiii~

Mnnn, I don't think that would be the case. Unlike Kouki who has the ability related to the past and future Saika's curse technique isn't related to such ability.

If she did manage to touch back to the past maybe it's because she happened to have the same predicament with Satoru and Y/n who got sucked into a curse domain. But alone, she cannot travel between time.

—Grey,

#[grey talks: ✒️☕]#gojo munchkins #pre-hiatus #will be answering questions

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maicrowave · 5 months

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god i just remembered phil thought printers had white ink, it really is so hard being that pretty

#dan and phil #dnp #daniel howell #amazingphil #that's one of the thoughts in his hair #when they played pong i think #pre hiatus #mine

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roscoe-me-and-this-fuckin-kid · 1 year

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being a fall out boy fan is sooo exhausting because i'll listen to a fall out boy song and i'll say "wow! what a great song! this is definitely one of my top 5 favourite fall out boy songs!" and then i'll listen to another one and i'll say "wow! what a great song! this is definitely one of my top 5 favourite fall out boy songs!" and then i'll do that for every single song of theirs

#mania haters dni <3 #fall out boy #fob #fob8 #joe trohman #patrick stump #pete wentz #andy hurley #bandom #emo #love from the other side #so much (for) stardust #heartbreak feels so good #post hiatus fob #pre hiatus fob

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rosarobot · 7 months

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smith college girls something something twin skeletons

#i needed to draw something soft and comforting :(#fall out boy #patrick stump #pete wentz #peterick #fanart #digital art #pre hiatus #fob

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falloutboyfan18 · 8 days

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Pete Wentz and Patrick Stump

#patrick stump #pete wentz #fall out boy #random screenshot I took #pre hiatus #two halves of whole #2004 #queue all the love to leave my heart

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ra3theemo · 6 months

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pre hiatus patrick stump appreciation post <333

#fob #fall out boy #patrick stump #pre hiatus patrick is a different breed i swear

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strawberrrybop · 20 days

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andy....

#fall out boy #fob #andy hurley #pre hiatus

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sticker-time · 5 months

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misc thumbnails + file names from 2003-2005 (downloaded from their old website, falloutboyrock.com on the wayback machine)

PART 1 | PART 2 | PART 3

#fall out boy #patrick stump #pete wentz #andy hurley #joe trohman #fob #take this to your grave #some of them have hidden names.... after 2003 all the links changed to “fall out boy” but clicking them reveals the original file name #pre-hiatus

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nomaptomyowntreasure · 10 days

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I have had my email account since around 2010 and back then my friend a. and I used to send each other hundreds of emails with p2 pictures, gifs, interview quotes etc. all without any source and many of the links are now broken but sometimes I love digging through them still.

#pete wentz #patrick stump #p2 #pre hiatus peterick #peterick #don't mind me i'm just rolling around in my archives

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kat-sribbles · 4 months

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Happy (early) valentine day, I’m thinking about how in the early FOB days joe made heart shaped CD sleeves for their demo tape out of red & pink construction paper and sold them at a valentine’s day show that they played.