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redibinch · 1 year
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wtylas · 2 years
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otagen · 1 year
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weird and fake Speed cover... marvel give us a solo!!!
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bonesare4bitches · 2 years
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SCREAMING
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plutonicbees · 2 years
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simultaneously glad that they are tying up the loose ends from ya vol 2 because there was literally no explanation but also being annoyed at the plotline bc it was stupid to begin with and I want to ignore the fact that it ever happened but also glad that something is happening to push it towards the finish line but also what the fuck was that storyline and what was the point but also
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blankie-greenie-anon · 2 months
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I've connected the Patrinot dots.
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David theorizes that he will the one sacrifice his humanity to create Patrinot, go back in time, kidnap Tommy, and be the Young Avengers' "guardian angel". Patrinot neither confirms nor denies this.
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When Patrinot returns, it's with the power of the M'kraan Crystal.
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In Dead X-Men, David gets a chunk of M'kraan crystal stuck in his chest. The crystal isn't hurting him, and it may be improving his control over his powers which currently has been altered so he can automatically absorb all the memories and knowledge of anyone and everyone around him. Also, the plot Dead X-Men involves time travel.
My theory
The crystal that's currently embedded in David's chest is the same crystal that controls Patrinot. The moment David gets the crystal out is when he decides to sacrifice his humanity to become Patrinot.
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indigosabyss · 7 months
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Obsessed w this panel from Speed's Marvel Voices Infinity Comic. It haunts me. Something is so poetic about it esp w context.
(I'm like 78% sure Master Pandemonium is just old and not actually homophobic. Will cry if this turns out to be not true.)
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pickleslice · 2 years
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ignoring all the stuff about david sacrificing his humanity to ensure events come to pass
1. very funny face when patrinot tries to kiss him
2. very funny that the entity that david thinks was sent to ensure billy went demiurge is so obsessed with david’s self acceptance
3. david i would call tommy’s response more of a panic response than an acceptance and hero response fhshfkdkg
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phoenixyfriend · 6 years
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To Build a Queendom
Chapter 27: Take a Breath
Rin gets some very pertinent need-to-know information.
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mercale · 5 years
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Billy Kaplan - The Magician I’m certain this has been brought up in the past, because we’ve had, what, six years to consider it. And yet here I am, caught up on a single panel of Young Avengers (2013). In fact, I’m caught up on this one page.
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Patrinot and Leah, playing cards. Now, I can’t talk very much about the card playing aspect that comes with tarot cards. But the important thing really is the divination and the cards the Patrinot has in hand. So let’s look at those.
Death. Not what a lot of people unfamiliar with tarot cards assume off the bat. It’s not a bad card most of what you’d think about with it has to do with the second card actually. Instead it’s a card about change. It’s a card about giving up the superficial to instead focus on what is truly important. It is a card to imply an end, but more to circumstances or a phase of life. It’s about self-awareness. And change is definitely something Billy is going through right now. The truly important is the future he’s fated for, something he’s becoming aware of. The Tower. This is the second card Patrinot reveals. Sudden, disruptive, and potentially destructive change or revelation. Interesting choice there, Patrinot. Not even three pages later we have Loki talking about this very need for change in Billy, the acceptance of the weight of the Demiurge. And if Billy can’t do that?
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Destruction. More than that, there’s danger here, and the potential for true liberation. That’s what the Tower is about. And another thing that fits Billy and his future. Which, of course, brings us to the final cause.
The Magician. The third and final card. And the one that not only fits traditional depictions of it, but also has a very very major change. After all, the traditional magician is replaced by nothing short of Billy himself. Billy in his new Wiccan costume. Billy in the costume he is wearing in his temporary near-ascension to the godhood he’s supposed to have. And don’t get me started on how Billy is the origin of life on earth and the Elder God Chthon, the origin of chaos magic and who has been harassing the previous Maximoff generation, way to go, Billy, your future-past son possessing your Uncle is really serious family issues. Anyway, what matters here is what the card means. Let’s start there. 
The card speaks not only to the power and skill and capability of the person coming for the reading, but it can speak to the need to tap into one’s own potential. Sound familiar? Again, not three pages later there’s Loki, trying to talk Billy into being strong enough to do this. This is another card of change, and this time it requires guidance. Either from one’s own mind, or from an outside, transformative power. Tell me Loki isn’t a force that brings about transformation. There’s one other thing. This card can also be seen as being about the divine motive of man. The unity of an individual being on all planes. Does that sound familiar? 
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I thought so. 
What makes the card choice more interesting is that there isn’t someone asking for a reading here. Instead Patrinot instead does this of his own accord. And Billy’s role in the reading comes from him literally being depicted as the magician. As the core of the story the cards are telling. The story the Patrinot is a player in. Another transformative source, another guide. Fitting, then, that it’s Loki and Patrinot whose faces are present in this scene. How it’s Teddy that is obscured. No, it’s only the guide and the transformative force that are here to truly stand as full witness to the cards coming to pass. To the weight of the potential futures Billy shall manifest in. 
And damn, if that isn’t beautiful design and artistic decision, I don’t know what is.
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databreacher-blog · 6 years
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Some people are into that kind of thing.
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wtylas · 2 years
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no but srsly. what happened to tommy during patrinot. he definitely did not go from panel A to panel B at the end of v2 that easily. last we saw him he was screaming in excruciating pain. THEN WHAT? THEN WHAT? next we see him like "im all fired up! wheres the villain? oh goodie a party!" THESE TWO SCENES ARE NOT SECONDS APART FOR HIM. SOMETHING HAPPENED. WHAT HAPPENED. ITS BEEN LIKE idk NINE YEARS WHAT HAPPENED.....................
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r0bee · 2 years
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David vs patrinot in vol.2
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tommyheadcanons · 3 years
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when tommy got back from being patrinotted, he was actually super jealous of noh-varr. he was basically the ya's replacement for him. white hair, green, but much cooler, better.. hotter....
+ AND he's dating kate‚ or at least, he thinks they are? idk it seems complicated. but tommy sees himself in noh-varr, only a stronger, more lovable, more useful version of himself. fuck,
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ferretrade · 3 years
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I finished rereading young avengers vol2 and I can't stop thinking about what went wrong in it and basically my thoughts are:
on a large scale, they didn't develop the characters properly. kate's personality was dating noh-varr, noh-varr was chill pretentious music guy, america was ~mysterious~, and loki was loki: see journey into mystery. I never felt like I understood what they cared about and that means I don't care about them! (billy, teddy, and david were actually meagerly okay in that they kinda had some motivation and stakes in the story that you understood even if I didn't always love the choices.)
sidelining kate was an especially bad move imo.
noh-varr was a let down in that you don't get any emotional depth from him until the LAST ISSUE. too little too late (also I love the ronettes but who is playing be my baby at a teenagers nye party omg)
the ages were confusing. billy & teddy were said to be 17 but kate is 20-21 even though they used to be the same age? I bring this up because it felt like there was a lot of sloppy detail discarding in general. idk maybe this is nitpicky here, but why not age up b&t too? having them all be 18-19 would have felt a lot more appropriate honestly (and not like they just aged up kate so she could be banging noh-varr)
david's whole thing with teddy was weird and bad. it wasn't built up at all and a confession would have worked much better than a forced kiss anyway!
teddy's fear of being manipulated was also weird and bad and it would have been SO EASY to tweak it slightly to make it better. I mean imagine if it was framed more like "even if loki's lying it still feels like my whole life is wrapped up in you and maybe that's my fault but I need some time to see myself outside of us." like! that would be interesting! I mean billy is his boyfriend, best friend, in all his friend groups, and they live together! after his only family died! AT SEVENTEEN. that's a lot. I can see teddy needing to establish some space for himself
noh-varr's crazy ex girlfriend squad was bad and reductive. this was most likely most ya fans first intro to him and what we get is that he loves music and breaks girls hearts. bad look for him but also sucks that we had to see these three ladies as stereotypes when they probably were interesting characters originally (maybe?). sure they end up not being real but the damage is done!
it also makes no sense when he breaks up with kate for the one because we literally have no context for why (again with the lack of development/stakes) until AFTER
I could write an entire essay about how poorly they treated tommy but I'll leave it at: 1) he didn't come back immediately after the battle and they didn't take the time to have anyone mourn him, 2) when he comes back kate says something like "how? nevermind it doesn't matter" because right no one cares about tommy I guess, and 3) tommy is perfectly fine doesn't even need a moment to process what happened to him???? okay cool
the whole patrinot thing was clearly just for shock value. I mean if they are a future version of one of the team and not eli, why would they be in the patriot costume? what is the in universe reason for that exactly? I mention this mostly there’s a larger trend of doing things for shock/coolness factor and when you think too much about it, it falls apart.
it kinda sucks that this is how tommy/david starts bc it's framed very strangely but I will admit I LOVE that david says his type is nice guys and then shortly after is like "huh. tommy's neat." my baby is a nice boy deep down :)
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eleonorebirk · 4 years
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Street racing
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Prompt: Street racing
Fandom: Young Justice
Pairing: David Alleyne/Tommy Shepherd (Thinkfast)
 David wanted it noted that he was doing it under protest. Tommy was fine, they could see that. Yes, he had lost his job after he’d suddenly vanished – as had he – but he was unharmed and had surely found some other job since the party. He had not told them what exactly he was doing the last few times the team had met up but then he had not exactly been telling them much before either. They had only learned about his last job because David had told them after Tommy had been taken.
Billy and Teddy thought otherwise, or at least Billy did. He was worried about his brother and had unsuccessfully tried to get answers. And the more he tried, the less Tommy said. So instead they had come to him.
“Did Tommy tell you anything?” Billy had asked. “I know you’re having lunch together sometimes.”
They were. They might not work for the same company any longer but Tommy still showed up from time to time to drag David out for lunch. “But he hasn’t mentioned anything about what he does now.”
“Can you ask him? Please?” Teddy had asked.
And David had been unable to say no. But he also had not been able to help. Tommy had avoided giving a clear answer and David had known better than to push. If he did, he knew that their lunch dates time out would likely end, at least for a while.
“Can’t you find out where he’s going?” Billy had asked when he’d told them that he was not telling him either.
“I can’t exactly follow him,” David had pointed out. “He’s a speedster.”
“You managed to find us,” Billy had replied, “so surely you’ll be able to find him as well.”
So he’d given it a try.
It had taken him a few weeks but he’d finally found a trail. At least he had thought so until he found himself in what he was pretty sure was the set up for street racing, one with questionable legality at that. He tried to slip away before he could be noticed, trying to figure out where he’d lost the trail.
“David?” Suddenly Tommy was standing in front of him. “What are you doing here?”
“I was looking for you,” David admitted. He did not want to lie to Tommy. Not that he could think of any decent excuse why he was here.
Tommy frowned slightly. “Why? Did something happen?”
“No, nothing,” David quickly assured him. “It’s just... well, I was curious.” He paused, then added: “And your brother was getting on my nerves with his questions.”
That startled a laugh out of Tommy. “I can imagine that.” He looked around. “I’m not sure the answer will get him to shut up. With either of us.”
“What exactly are you doing?”
“Street racing,” Tommy answered, matter of fact. He shrugged. “They like the challenge of competing against a speedster.”
Okay, David could see that. He’d just have to come up with a way to phrase it when Billy and Teddy asked.
Tommy hesitated, then asked quietly: “Do you want to stay and watch?”
The question surprised David. Considering how much Tommy had avoided talking about what he was doing, he’d expected him to try and get him to leave. “Sure.” He followed Tommy to where the cars were parked. “Is this how you’re earning money right now?”
“For now, yes.” Tommy shrugged. “I know it’s not something I’ll do for long term, just for now, until I feel like getting an official job again.” Until he felt less haunted by the hazy memories of being captured by the Patrinot. “I did thank you for getting me back from wherever that thing took me, right?” Though he was not really sure how David had done that.
He hadn’t. Not that David had expected him to. He shrugged. “Of course I did. We’re friends.”
“Still, thank you,” Tommy said, unusually serious. Moments later, he was grinning again when they reached the place where other spectators – especially young women – were standing, waiting for the next race to begin. “There. I’ll be right back. Wish me luck?”
David wasn’t sure what made him do it but he leaned forward and briefly kissed Tommy’s cheek. “Good luck,” he said dryly.
“Thanks.”
Tommy was gone before David could properly register the way his voice had squeaked. Well, he’d surprised them both, it seemed. Perhaps it wasn’t so bad that Teddy and Billy had talked him into going looking for Tommy.
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