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chipistrate · 9 months
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The Wizards Favorite Apprentice
One more piece before the countdown 2 Ruin, this time featuring my favorite little dude; Gregory(fucked up edition)<3
RBs appreciated!
Also I hope you don't mind the tag but LOOK!!! THE LITTLE DUDE!!!!!!!! @astro-inthestars
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puhpandas · 4 months
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“Hello?”
“He made me do it.”
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the bonnie mask in question + the balloon world unused text that i got the caption from :)
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so i watched matpat’s fnaf timeline finale and
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and i made the meme before i even finished the video, it got worse from there. go to bed matpat please
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wimpwompz · 1 year
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"̶P̶a̶t̶i̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶4̶6̶"̶
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ohonama · 11 months
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cn someohe keep me sane here. please tell me i am NOT THE ONLY PERSON thinking the mimic is controlling gregory instead of outright mimicking because “gregory, run!” seems to directly imply cassie has somehow in some way seen him, or knows his location. which then implies she knows its gregory, because if “gregory” knows his location, and cassie knows her, surely they COULD meet up at some point. which is super questionable because ??? ITS? they had to have met up wt SOME POINT right. thats probably how the walkie talkie connection was made (i will admit we don’t know if the mimic is speaking through the walkie talkie, but im going to guess for now that they’re not, but it always could be) but either way. freddy is here. this HAS to be the burntrap ending due to the parts missing from each animatronic and also strange modifications applied to them that couls NOT be applied by machine hand, esp someone like the mimic. roxy’s whole facial shape literally changed entirely. this has to be burntrap. so if freddy is back, then gregory has to be back, ans back as the role he played in ggy, right?
tell me im not going crazy.
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nixontumbler · 5 months
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hey guys! I’m going for another ramble about fnaf so it’s probably just gonna be me switching topics? This will mainly be a GGY/Patient 46 ramble or beliefs
Or just me trying to cover Gregory’s possible backstories
So you know how Gregory is patient 46. And he leads his therapists to the pizzaplex(as it says in GGY tales from the pizzaplex.) to kill them?
I was thinking about how would he even kill them? I mean he’s short. And a child. I’m not saying he’s weak but what would you do if you see a kid walking around with a knife. (Wouldn’t be the best  disguise after-all. Him being a kid just makes the disguise perfect.) Maybe he used Vanny’s method or something?
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I’m talking about this scene right here. Where she says “dissemble freddy.” And as in the ending where Gregory dissembles Vanny, we know it can harm humans too. Plus, one of the four therapists mentions how one of Gregory’s councilors was found dead.
She mentioned that the body was messed up by machinery, as we see later on in that scene, Vanny gets torn apart by the janitor robots
Since he is a hacker AND a child, it kinda makes sense. I mean, being a child and stabbing a lady with a knife? She would probably have time to run away before i could even stab her again. Plus, in the book he uses an play pass that was hacked into a security pass or something. That’s how he was even able to get in to drag those therapists to their death.
Also, Tony mentions Freddy’s strange behavior in the book. I was thinking about how Freddy wasn’t affected by the virus. Maybe it’s because he was programmed to protect Gregory from any people who might be onto him?
There’s also the part of how Gregory broke out of control (Many people believe it’s the balloon boy game.)
I also thought about why the virus needs gregory anyways? Maybe it’s because he has a resemblance to C.C Afton. Hence the “Let me bring you back to your family” Chica quote?
Also, in the therapists tapes, one of the therapists mentions and inkblot test and gregory takes it. It talks about how it reminds him of a mask.
And the therapists mentions a disguise, and how he likes the idea of running around and being invisible. Which is true, no one would suspect a child murderer. (I was in denial when he was revealed as patient 46.)
There’s also the tape where another therapist mentions Gregory’s childhood. So we know he MIGHT be an orphan but, the therapist did mention him having a good childhood that Greg lied about.
There’s also the fact that he PROBABLY erased his parent records(got this part where Vanessa mentions him) And how (we know he has been to the pizzaplex before but Freddy doesn’t recognize Gregory in the guest list.)
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And here’s Vanessa talking about the records
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His backstory and background is interesting to me, is he an orphan? Or did that virus made him kill his parents? I find it weird.
There’s also the fact where in the story that “Rab” changed is, “GGY was the wizard’s favorite apprentice” It makes me wonder, did the virus get overprotective or something ☠️ and made him kill his parents?
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where i found the line from (Tales from the Pizzaplex: The Boddiedots Conclusion Pg. 64)
It also mentions him having control over the animatronics too. (More proof of my fact of him using the animatronics instead of doing the killing himself.)
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Then there’s also the part where Tony explains how “Rab” looked like a child. His shortness helped with that too(No fr he was twelve how short is he ☠️) Most of the girls thought he looked cute due to his appearance. (They mean he looks adorable)
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Which this is something i find funny since apparently “Ggy” takes two year in the past before the whole Security breach? (Which makes him 14? SHORT☠️‼️) STILL NOT SURE IF THIS IS TRUE BTW..
And there’s also the fact that when Cassie gets killed by freddy, the way how she dies is getting shoved into his stomach hatch(LITERALLY HOW SHORT IS HE)
I also believe he doesn’t remember anything? He just has the natural instinct to run from Vanny/Vanessa. And he also struggles to remember his name.
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Then there’s that instinct of not trusting Vanessa since he just knows something is up with her
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Other then that, that’s basically all I have for today I would love to explain more but, i’m tired💪
But my main idea on who he us is that maybe the glitch trap virus saw C.C in him? And decided “This is my son now because im grieving my family. ☠️” And then made the boy orphaned and decided “mm yes my favorite disguise”
Have a good day yall😭
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sugarywishes · 8 months
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//SPOILERS for the GGY book (Even though it came out ages ago)
I just discovered this account, so I'm not sure if this has already been asked but what do you think about the "Gregory is Patient 46/GGY" idea? Got any thoughts, theories or headcanons about it?
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Well I've gotta say. It is indeed, an idea.
Like okay, knowing me, I should be foaming at the mouth about this idea. Like HELL YEAH THE POTENTIAL ANGST THIS CAN CREATE!! THE DUALITY OF GOOD AND EVIL THAT CAN FIGHT INSIDE GREGORY AND LEAD TO CHARACTER DRAMA!!
But for some reason, I just don't think this idea works for Gregory?? Like on top of being a surprisingly tech savvy homeless preteen, HE'S ALSO A MURDERER AND MASTER HACKER!! It's almost giving me a nostalgic whiplash back to those edgy overpowered ocs you'd find on fnaf deviantart or God forbid QUOTEV CREEPYPASTA 😭😭
I also think that if it does end up canon, then the hatred for Gregory can now be validated as just and canon "We can hate him because he's canonically evil!!" Even Vanessa and WILLIAM are accepted as innocent babies who do no wrong but Gregory is PURE EVIL according to them ❗❗❗🔥🔥🔥
Also, how can ANYONE die to this small, 12 year old boy? Believe me I was a kid once too (twas a long time ago,,) and I could bite and scratch sure, but kill?? C'mon. You're telling me this probably malnourished (as implied in game) boy can kill grown adults? Not one of them thought of punting him out of existence?? HE'S LIKE- CHUCKY SIZED YOU CAN BEAT HIM
I'm still lowkey wishing at least the Mimic is the only book thing in the games (Absolutely hate the fact that its Canon now but I've unfortunately accepted it, kind of like a disgruntled step parent to the step child yk??) and I'm still hoping Vanessa is patient 46 as was originally implied in the OG version of SB (presumably, might have to rewatch the gameplay again)
But besides all that, as for theories/headcanons...
IF GREGORY CANONICALLY MURDERED HIS PARENTS AS DR. RABBIT I CAN AND WILL SCREAM MY LUNGS OUT 😭😭😭 I can't imagine how fucking tragic that would be!! Like sure it's almost Batman villain levels of insane BUT IT WOULD BE CRAZY
I do sadly expect they'll confirm P 46! Greg in HW2. Or at least they'll put GGY references in the game. I'll be very upset if it does happen BECAUSE I'LL HAVE TO REWRITE MY AUS AND TIMELINES ONCE MORE 💔💔
While the idea of Gregory manually killing people himself is funny (because again, tiny child vs fully grown adult, they can totally kick his ass!!) He probably used the robots as his minions (I actually do think that's what happens in the books?? But I've never read them so I don't quite know) (AND I'M NEVER GONNA KNOW!! GOOSEBUMPS IS SUPERIOR!! 💪🗣❗🔥)
Thanks for asking! If anyone wants more just ask!!
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triphimi · 2 months
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which theory - that is 100% not canon / debunked - do you like the concept of
That's 100% debunked already but before the confirmation who patient 46 was I liked the theory that both patients 46 and 71 were Vanessa. It went like: patient 71 was Vannesa when she was her normal self and patient 46 was Vanny. It was purely made up on the fact that Vannys behavior did kinda line up with patients 46th and they were separated in the records bc of split personalities. It used to be fun thing to theorize about but it died quickly along GGY's release.
And here's one that's not necessarily debunked but also not 100% canon bc theres still plenty of debates over this: William Afton started experiments (or murdering) before CC's death. We know from Dittophobia that the experiments started in 1983 but some people argue that it all happened after CC's death so... (even tho it really doesn't make sense imo but whatever)
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jelly-belly-fish · 1 year
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Gregory being Patient 46 is really starting to show that the theory of Afton trying to rebuild his family might be true.
That’s really all I have to say on the matter.
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anime-pencil-drawings · 10 months
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Small FNAF Theory
Okay guys, so you know how in the dlc trailer, they show this guy?
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I've seen so many people claim this to be glitchtrap but I just don't think it is??
Like, Glitchtrap has a completely different look. The face and ear shapes are different, as well as the nose shape. The hands also look different. This also doesn't look like Glitchtrap's Princess Quest form, as that was just a blob with purple and vaguely rabbit features.
But, this also doesn't look like Vanny. Once agan the face, nose and ears look completely different. (Btw, wtf happened with Vanny in the canon ending??)
So my theory: This Gregory/GGY/Patient 46/Dr. Rabbit (Jesus this kid has a lot of aliases)
I have no doubt someone has thought of this before, but here me out. It doesn't seem to be either of our established glitch rabbits, and who is the only other canon rabbit fursuiter at the moment?
Gregory.
Another detail? The tears. Now to be clear, I'm a supporter of the Gregbot/GregVessel theory (plz don't shoot me) so is a point to me, because what is another name for Gregory/Evan? The crying child, which is his only other form we've seen besides Golden Freddy.
They are also glitching out in greens and purples, which anyone familiar with some basic lore knows are important colors.
Purple is obviously Afton/Glitchtrap/evil.
Green on the other hand is Charlotte's color. Charlotte aka The Puppet/the Mimic (possibly?)/good.
Gregory is shown in the game to have an attitude as well as some revenge problems, but other than that, he is a pretty good kid. Dr. Rabbit on the other hand is a hacker and murderer. So, Gregory is a pretty split individual. The glitching could mean an internal struggle between his good side and bad side, or it could literally be him torn between the influences of Glitchtrap and Charlotte.
Anyway, yeah that's it, I think this is Gregory.
Would love to hear other's thoughts on this!
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theballadofmars · 1 year
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WHY GREGORY CAN'T BE PATIENT 46
In the last few months, I've seen lots of theories about patient 46 and what's clear is that no one really know who it is, but a big part of the fandom think that Gregory is a good candidate which... I have some thoughts about it.
Additional note: GGY is probably canon and that means that maybe Gregory IS patient 46, but honestly the only way for this to work its of Gregory is possesed and has no memory of what's going so. So, this theory still applies, because Gregory, as we know him in Security Breach, can't be patient 46.
I thinks there's lots of in game evidence which contradict this conclusion, so here's why:
Patient 46 and Gregory have complete different personalities. Patient 46 doesn't talk a lot, and when they do it or talk about themselves its described as objective, like they're telling things that didn't happen to them. They have fun when they know that the animatronics are acting weird, they don't like to go outside, they don't like the light, and they like masks. Now, you have Gregory: he talks a lot, he's sarcastic and makes jokes, he says "lame" when he got something of mr. hippo, he cleary doesn't like how the animatronics are acting, and he shows lots of emotion during the game, from fear in some moments to sadness when freddy dies at the end.
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In addition to this: Gregory spents half of the game using a camara that can blind animatronics because of the flash, but he doesn't have problems with the light, wants to get out of the pizzeria, and he's also worried about the dissapearence that took place in the complex, which doesn't make sense if he was patient 46.
2. "Gregory is violent, and Patient 46 killed the therapist, so that's a link!" -> Actually, no. I think Gregory is a gremlin, but I don't think that his violent acts are unjustified. The kid spent hours inside the pizzeria with robots that are 1) Bigger than him 2) Stronger than him and 3) Are trying to kill him. His acts are more in self - defense that anything. There's a diference between destroying animatronics that are trying to kill you and killing your therapist because she's about to uncover something.
And yes, Gregory also kills Vanny in one of the endings, but again: Vanny was about to kill him.
3. Patient 46 is a hacker, but Gregory isn't. This was one of the things that made me be sure about this theory. Gregory is good with videogames (if the GGY that are in the arcades are him), he knows about animatronics and how things work, but that's the thing: he knows about mechanics, not about programming. He may know some things about technology, but programming is a whole different story. A mechanic or mechanical engineer will know some things about programming for their projects, but usually it has nothing to do with creating a virus or hacking a whole company. They just, can't do that. So, Gregory is a mechanic, Patient 46 a hacker.
In some parts of the game, Gregory has acces to computers, he could have made things easier for him, he could even acces the security protocols or open the doors, but he didn't.
4. Patient 46 is a manipulator, and the game makes you believe that they're the one manipulating Vanessa: they go to the same therapist, they had met Vanny and knows the technics of the pizzaplex. Gregory, on the other hand, is afraid of Vanny, runs away from Vanessa and also he didn't know the identity behind the mask. But Gregory looks surprised in the fire ending, and he also tries to save Vannesa in the Vanny good ending, which wouldn't make sense if he was the hacker:
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If he was the one manipulating her, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't do that or hide everytime he sees her. Yes, Gregory lied to Freddy about the stolen parts and about his friends, but I don't think that was he trying to manipulate Freddy, and just a kid having like, the worst night of his fucking life and doesn't want to make his new robot dad and only ally sad or mad at him.
5. Who would bring Gregory to the therapist? Like, that's an important fact. Sure, maybe he could go by himself, but if he is in the United States, doesn't therapist charge like, a lot? How is Gregory going to pay it? Also, he's a kid, the therapist has to talk first with his parents or legal guardian, they can't just accept a random kid. Patient 46 has, or at least had, parents. That's stated by the therapist, but she obviously didn't know them. So, who is bringing patien 46 to therapy? And who's paying for it? Gregory, at least from what you see, doesn't have parents, but also I don't think a 12 year old could afford therapy.
I think that patient 46 had parents, but there was some type of tragedy. Now, he's in someone else custody, and whoever this person is, is the one paying for the therapy. Maybe to control de therapist, to have Vanessa under vigilance, I don't know, but there has to be someone behind it, a kid can't just do that (I'm not from the United States, so if there's someone who has better knowledge about how therapy works there, please tell me if I'm wrong).
Gregory, on the other hand, is more of a mistery. We see that he's homeless, or at least doesn't have a place he wants to go back to.
Things they have in common are:
·They like candy -> Lots of kids do.
·They have a rebel side -> But they show it differently, and Gregory has reasons for the things he do.
·We don't know a lot about their past.
In conclusion, for Gregory and Patient 46 to be the same person we have to assume that Gregory had been lying and pretending during the events of all Security Breach, even during moments when he didn't have to.
And let me tell you, if he really spents all the game acting, he deserves an Oscar, at least. But other than that, the motivations, personalities and abilities of both characters doesn't match each other.
You could also say that Gregory is a robot and his memory was messed with by someone, but robot Gregory is a theory for another day and I prefer to believe the little evidence the canon gives us instead of creating theories that gives us an explation at the expenses of what we see in the games. Maybe we shouldn't know who patient 46 is for now, or maybe we didn't conect the pieces together, but I'm pretty sure that Gregory isn't the one behind those tapes, and I needed to explain why.
Thank you if you read this theory, and I hope you have a good day!
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puhpandas · 7 months
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so you guys know the theory about the glamrocks and Vanny chasing Gregory not just so they can kill him, but because they're trying to get the freshly freed Dr Rabbit/GGY now with memory loss back to re-glitchtrap hin before he escapes?
it holds up so much more when you think about Vanessa telling you to go to the main stage at 6am. it's the end of the night, she and the glamrocks failed at catching Gregory, but as a last ditch effort, she tells you to go to the main stage, where the first therapy disc is. the therapy discs that show you patient 46. aka, Gregory.
and when Gregory's actually goes to the main stage like Vanessa said and dies to Moon if he doesnt find the tape u know what appears?
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THIS new mission appears.
this was Vannys last ditch effort to get GGY back. her plan A. she was trying to get Gregory to remember who hes supposed to be (GGY) by giving him the tapes to listen to
its so clear GGY is canon or meant to be with all of the evidence, and how much sense it makes when listening to tapes and thinking of the story in new context. it fills in so many blanks and you just go "ooohhh" when you learn about it and what it does to the narrative, especially after ruin, with the 3 star fam being the 'survived glitchtrap and have each lost something to it but now weve teamed up to keep it locked up forever' team. i want help wanted 2 to confirm GGY sooo bad
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lizzyafton61787 · 2 years
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My thoughts rn
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wimpwompz · 1 year
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Imagine making a whole ass playlist over a stupid fnaf theory-
*drops this and runs*
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ohonama · 11 months
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plugging these two screenshots here. my thoughts on RUIN dlc, from the trailer!
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hm. moots should i make a patient 46 cassie au.
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