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rocket-69 · 1 year
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btw
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swankshrimp · 2 months
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Just something a little silly I thought of...
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Okay gonna go on a slight tangent here
Am I the only one who thinks Oliver Swanick kinda ruined Nipton?
Like you know Nipton is the player's first introduction to The Legion and everything is perfect
You got Necropolis playing in the background people strapped to telephone poles tire fires that go up to the sky heads on pikes it's a perfect introduction to show how ruthless The Legion is
And then it gets ruined by some asshole yelling about a lottery completely oblivious to his situation before hand
Like I think Swanick would have been perfect if he tried to get you to turn around and get away from The Legion rather than screaming about winning a lottery as if everyone in his gang wasn't brutally tortured enslaved and killed
I mean sure you know he could not care about you or his gang like Boxcars but at least have him be in a rush to get out of Nipton before Vulpes changes his mind
I dunno I think it would be interesting to have a member of a faction most players would start off as enemies with and perceived as an actual threat by both The NCR and the local settlements be actually fucking terrified of a much larger faction and a much bigger threat rather than screaming about a lottery which isn't even a valid lottery so he really didn't win anything just his own life
Going into Nipton for the first time in a new playthrough is such a chilling experience if you have a mod that removes Swanick from the game
I dunno I just think that Swanick was a bad choice because how am I supposed to be terrified of what The Legion did to the town of Nipton if I have this guy and his stupid haircut yelling about a lottery in my face?
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delafiseaseses · 1 year
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"I want you to witness the fate of the town of Nipton, to memorize every detail."
OK, Vulpes, how about a memorise a very particular detail. That you speak out of your arse when you claim "Each clutched his ticket, hoping it would set him free. Each did nothing, even when "loved ones" were dragged away to be killed." what's this then, Inculta?
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[an ash pile and a dead wastelander next to a laser rifle]
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[the Ash Pile's inventory contains a set of Legion Recruit Armour and a machete]
Looks to me like you didn't clean up the fight fully. I imagine that if we were to have arrived later what's left of your man woulda been sweeped up and the Wastelander would have a mine under him.
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[another angle of the dead Wastelander, showing the Laser Rifle and a Lottery Ticket]
The man has a lotto ticket next to him as well. Which does raise some questions. Was he handed the ticket and then pulled out the Rifle? Did they leave it next to him to mock him? Was this actually some kind of trial by combat "prize"? If the last one, why is he dead inspite of killing a Legion Recruit?
We will never know, the dead can't talk and Vulpes has his story. I don't think this is how Vulpes wanted us to see this man or the Legion Ash Pile.
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I do have some other observations. Do you notice that the 1st and 2nd place winners, Oliver Swanick and Boxcares, are both Powder Gangers. In fact, literally every non-Legion survivor of this event weren't Nipton Locals? They're literally all Powder Gangers. The two enslaved guys in 'Booted'. The crucified men?
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[4 images vertically of crucified Powder Gangers]
Powder Gangers. All the survivors of Nipton were Powder Gangers. You may think "So what? The people of Nipton got unlucky." but you know what I think? I think this is too convienient.
Vulpes says "Nipton was a wicked place, debased and corrupt. It served all comers, so long as they paid. Profligate troops, Powder Gangers, men of the Legion such as myself - the people here didn't care. It was a town of whores. For a pittance, the town agreed to lead those it had sheltered into a trap. Only when I sprang it did they realize they were caught inside it, too." notice what he's doing there: he's claiming the entire town was in on him and Mayor Steyns plot. A claim like that, if true, could be used against Nipton in some people's minds.
One of the only other accounts of Nipton are Ghost's which are "Nipton wasn't the most friendly town, but..." and "Town was a shithole, asking to be burned. Just not by Legion. Nobody deserves that." which... no town is 'asking to be burned', Ghost. That second quote is part of her saying she had no friends in Nipton. I doubt she actually personally knew anyone in Nipton. Just the fact Steyn served Gangers and NCR and maybe she met someone unkind there once or somethin'.
And, yeah, Mayor Joseph B. Steyn was an arsehole. But y'wanna know somethin' about Steyn? He was New Californian, a Hubber, from The Hub. His prostitutes, Rosie and Sylvia, were probably from there or somewhere in New California too. And you know what he says happened in his terminal when he heard the plan? "I didn't have to think a moment about Mr. Fox's proposition before accepting it. All I have to do is convince the Powders to kidnap the NCR troops at night. When both groups are in town, the Legion boys will scoop everyone up. Ha!" he didn't consult the town about this plan beforehand. He also, rather constantly, displays a desire to leave Nipton and go back to California after exploiting Nipton as much as he could. That was Steyn's care for the town.
Only 1 Nipton Townsperson gets an account of anythin': Tony the Tinker. His single terminal entry shows him to be... a bit of a creep. But he explicitly is avoided by other people in town, especially women (also his Mister Gutseys got one of the Legion Recruits, which is funny).
But I've lost the point I was making. I don't think the fact all the Nipton townspeople are dead is a coincidence. Just like how I don't think that all the NCR just happened to be killed and left in Nipton Hotel is a coincidence.
I think the lotto was rigged.
Think about it, Boxcars even says that when Steyn's number came up they "burned him alive on a pile of tires." he never mentions anyone else getting that treatment.
Vulpes Inculta lied about the towns complicitness, at best there were fine with prostitution that played both sides of the Ganger-NCR conflict (the shopkeepers of the town gave Steyn 15% of their profits from trade with patrons of that service). Does Westside deserve to burn because of the Casa Madrid? Does Freeside because of the Atomic Wrangler? Fuck no.
But if a Nipton townsperson lived, they could share their story. We could see the truth. Nipton was a town, like any other. At worst their crime was electing Steyn (but we have no idea how their elections even worked).
1st prize, 2nd prize. That'd be a loose end, a story that could contradict the "Evil place that should be burned" narrative. The game was rigged from the start. Vulpes Inculta is a liar. Of course he is... he's a literal spymaster.
(also I highly doubt a woman was ever gonna be allowed to 'win' such a thing with Legion ideology)
So, let us remember the town of Nipton, as best as we can. Not as Vulpes saw it, or the NCR saw it, but as a place that had people in it we never got to know. Next time your in Nipton Town Hall, moving the bodies to avoid the landmines of this specifically set up scene by the Legion. Think about the Wastelanders, as they are called, and the part of the Wasteland they called home.
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psykersomatic · 2 years
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fallout-lou-begas · 2 years
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visions of seems familiar...
all the more wicked sort ahead
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bluepriestess · 1 year
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Nipton, California • March 2023
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thefalloutwiki · 1 year
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"Yeah! Who won the lottery? I did! Smell that air! Couldn't ya just drink it like booze!"
-Oliver Swanick, Fallout New Vegas
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You can read more about Oliver here
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your-host-joe · 8 months
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Fallout New Vegas - Episode 9
In which we meet a lottery winner! What a lucky guy! I wonder what his neighbours in this town have to say about his win?
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fenriswine · 2 years
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–Cold, Cold Heart
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(Repost cuz i accidentally deleted my post😭)
Few days ago i posted wip of this art and it’s finally done
I hate love this furry boy so much
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nooklingposting · 1 year
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Oh wow I'm in Nipton I sure hope nothing bad has happened
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Livia before she admired the Legion. She was still a bad person though. About to meet the faction that change her life...
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andrevascreencaps · 1 year
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rpjournal · 1 year
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Novac 10/23/81
Thankfully I didn't run into the Legion on the way up to Novac, but saw my fair share of trouble.
I was checking out a farmstead that had been raided and got ambushed by 6 or 7 vipers. I don't know what I would have done without the Turbo I had, but I'd better not get addicted again...
Searchlight got a nice little rad bomb as a gift before I came through, and I couldn't help but feel bad for the townspeople and their bad luck. I put them out of their misery.
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Finally made it up to Novac and got a room before the sun came up. Charming place, if a bit boring.
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delafiseaseses · 9 months
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So, you think Boxcars's Crew were a part of the main NCRCF Powder Gang like Joe Cobb's Gang? I think that makes sense.
I also think they actually were specifically Boxcars's Crew since Boxcars says "Me and my crew..." which sounds to me like he was the leader of the group. If that is the case it kinda makes his 'I don't give a fuck.' attitude towards the enslaved ones worse, but at least he's honest, I guess.
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psykersomatic · 2 years
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christineanneho · 1 year
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Golden Hour Epic Sunset at Nipton, CA by the 15 Freeway next to the Mojave National Preserve, on February 4, 2023! I looked to the left of the pink Sunset and saw this beautiful golden sunset! My Mom and I saw this Epic Sunset on our way to Las Vegas, NV, and I knew that I had to pull over for this one! This road is Nipton Road by the Mojave National Preserve. I just love those Desert Sunsets! I also love how there is lots of white snow on the mountain in the back! Have a Blessed Sunday and start to the New Week! 🌄☁️📷 #nipton #mojavedesert #mojave #mojavenationalpreserve @mojavenps @mojavedesertlandtrust #todayscalifornia #onlyinsoutherncalifornia #theonlycalifornia #visitcalifornia #total_california @total_california #californiadreaming @californiadreaming.official #bestofthegoldenstate #futurewomenphotography #sunrise_and_sunsets #super_photosunsets #sky_marvels #bestoftheusa_sunrisesunset2 #bestoftheusa_weather #yes_busa #raw_skies #raw_travelblog #raw_landscape @raw_landscape_ #raw_mountains #raw_vip_gold #photofeaturesunsets #photofeaturesky #nbcla @nbcla #shannasshots @shannanbcla #abc7eyewitness @abc7community @abc7la #nikoncreators #nikonnofilter @nikonusa (at Mojave National Preserve) https://www.instagram.com/p/CoSeieoJxuv/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
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