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blueish-bird · 4 months

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Chainsaw Man is about self-destruction. It’s about self-destruction as a means of reclaiming your autonomy in an environment where you are consistently denied it. Chainsaw Man is about denial of autonomy. Chainsaw Man is about how, when you are in an environment where you are denied your own autonomy, you learn to view interpersonal relationships as interactions you have no control over unless you find a means of controlling the other members of that relationship — whether that be through methods of fight, flight, freeze, or fawn. Chainsaw Man is about how denial of autonomy is framed as love. Chainsaw Man is about how love that denies autonomy is violence.

#chainsaw man #csm #csm part 1 #csm part 2 #guess who just read the new chapter #going to write a ‘society of the spectacle’ type book except it’s just exploring the themes in csm #I love repetition #my csm thoughts #my csm analysis #meposting #autonomy #self-destruction #seeing Denji consistently turn his saws on himself in part 2 hurts ough #maladaptive coping mechanisms yk #destroy yourself to destroy those who hurt you #when I wish he was able to take care of himself in spite #but the situation he’s in.. doesn’t rly allow him to do that #csm denji #csm 152

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sugar-grigri · 11 months

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yes, the shojo / shonen / seinen genres no longer have any real meaning as such, and are understood above all as editorial branches.

but that doesn't stop me from loving to think in terms of symbolism

we have a manga, considered a shonen, published in JUMP, whose graphic identity is gory and whose themes are deep and traumatic, all in an offbeat form.

who could have predicted that Fujimoto would take on the case of teenage girls?

YES Chainsaw Man, this slightly bizarre, extremely popular and sometimes divisive manga is now aimed particularly at teenage girls.

I mean, what really resonates with me is the fact that at last a work of art, in all its horror and violence, is tackling the hell that teenage girls can be.

#chainsaw man #csm #csm part 2 #my thoughts #asa #denji

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mncxbe · 12 days

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I love how the csm fandom calls Denji anything but his name♡

#‧₊˚🖇️✩ ₊˚thoughts #dennis my sweet boy #shut up i love him so much #chainsaw man #csm denji

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spicymotte · 1 year

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nice seeing you again

#csm #chainsaw man #angel devil #aki hayakawa #my art #sketches #akiangel #my brain thought about them meeting again in hell and nobody can take that away from me

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iridescentscarecrow · 5 months

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what frustrates me about fandom interpretations of makima as a one note Source of evil, apart from the fact that the manga itself refutes this, is that her character haunts and ties together so much of part two that it's impossible to fully understand without understanding her.

makima isn't ever a unilateral antagonistic force. she's an agent of the institutional evil that looms over all of CSM. she's in as much a commentary on gender and performance of gender as denji is.

and fjmt in part two enacts the "haunting the narrative" trope in such an interesting manner because you see flashes of makima in every female character. you see elements of her diluted into, most visibly, the characters of asa, nayuta and fumiko.

in asa, i see makima in that yearning for connection. i see her in the way that asa herself is fundamentally unable to approach the relationship of equals that she so desperately desires, partly due to her own social awkwardness but also because of yoru's threat: everyone she gets close to turns into a weapon. the fundamental inequality to human relationships that makima is unable to overcome.

during the aquarium date, you see asa echo makima again and again in lines that evoke makima's purposing of denji. that weaponising. "i'll grant you any request / save me chainsaw man! / you don't have to think about a thing."

and her connection with denji also founds itself upon this. yoshida talks to asa about parasocial relationships -- rerendering makima's idealisation of the CSM in how asa sees denji as a love interest. asa and denji parallel each other so organically in their gendered suppression and portrusion of desire. it's a punctuation of denji's search for intimacy that's mirrored by makima's in part one. exploring how asa is different from makima is perhaps the most intriguing part of this reflection though: an example being the way asa overthinks her outfit for her date with denji while makima seamlessly models herself into an Effortless woman.

[it's not like asa borrows just from makima. for example, there are things to be said about the way she views her Body (as compared with reze and quanxi) but examining how mkm's character bleeds into asaden is quite compelling.]

nayuta being the most visible remnant of what makima was is also interesting because makima herself appears so little in nayuta beyond the surface. nayuta's role as the control devil is hinted at frequently as is her appearance resembling makima's

but her and denji's dynamic more often echoes the hayakawa family and pochita than anything else. consider: aki giving up his goal (his 'easy revenge' that he finally sees for what it is) for the sake of his family, that warmth of blood and platonic bodily intimacy that power embodies--

it's all referenced to again with nayuta and denji, in direct panel callbacks and the plot itself! nayuta is The Family that makima constructs for denji in part one to pull him along the plot she prepares. i'm thinking about how makima is an allegory for capitalism. and what the family unit means in a capitalistic structure. the propagation of an ideal that hinges on birth and descendancy, about narrative and reproduction of narrative, about how nayuta births herself from makima and denji's relationship.

and this is also why nayuta herself exerts so much control over denji in the plot, as well as why she's used as a piece to control him. in part one, family was used to create the Chainsaw Man from denji. in part two, it's used to make denji abandon the Chainsaw Man, this icon that the church and the public now take possession of. [something something alienation of the worker from the product. from the collective. from the self.]

fumiko is perhaps the hardest to pin down here because her role evolves as the fandomisation of the Chainsaw Man evolves too. in fact, as a denji fan, she represents not just makima but multiple people who see something in and want something from denji! (think of how she references reze in her highlighting how denji is just a child; how reze uses her commentary on denji to engage with her Self. it's fandomisation,,, and what is makima but Chainsaw Man's fan?)

fumiko most obviously calls back to these wants and their conceptualisation of denji in the raw sexual violence that the events in the theater scene moving into the karaoke scene embody. the undercurrent of sa that runs through p1 and p2 is brought to the forefront in this scene -- denji falling back into these cycles of abuse, him slipping into habitating the wants of others (his initial horrified expression and then his grin during the fight. his initial inner monologue and then the cut to him licking the tentacle.)

so much of CSM rests on this fandom of denji, this theme of what production and idealisation means, one you can trace through fjmt's body of work. and this fandom reaches its crescendo in p2. what's even more interesting about fumiko is her pathos under this layer. her seeing denji as denji at some level but in the end, her handling of him is so selfish. her echoing makima's uninhibited laughter at the horror of denji's situation, her predatory cruelty. denji simultaneously humanised and dehumanised through her fandom.

fjmt's characters exist as foils, as parallels and ideas. makima's character has such a stranglehold over part one and these ideas run over into part two naturally -- as a consequence of denji being a reciever of these themes, but also deliberately in fjmt evoking the Thing that is makima repetitively -- to underscore the forever re emerging structure that denji and now asa are trapped in. the same structure that makima produced and was simultaneously caged by.

#csm #also ahaha this was written pre csm 150 and then they drop those lines on family. okay. sooo good #chainsaw man #denji #makima #asa mitaka #csm part 2 #huuge thanks to my friend wingdings banger thoughts on fumiko #crow.txt #csm meta #csm 150

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voxxxel · 1 month

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tender asaden

#asaden #asa mitaka #denji #chainsaw man #csm #i found this sketch from a while back in my folders and i thought it was cute

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musicalfevr · 2 years

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Denji my boy....

my SON...ヽ(ﾟ´Д｀)ﾉﾟ

#chainsaw man #csm #chainsawman #denji #pochita #he's just... he's a good boy....#i can't protect him.... :')))))#disclaimer the first thought bubble was my worst case scenerio fears from all the dumb tropey anime I've seen #I DONT ACTUALLY THINK HES LIKE THAT ;o;

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shahareen · 5 months

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never has there ever been a ship that goes through this cycle like asaden does

#IMAGE NOT MINE. ITS FROM THE TWITTER FOLKS #almost fooled myself into thinking that i got over this ship.. i was finally gonna live my best life but this chapter reeled me back in DAMN #like SIKE u thought #theyre so ENDGAME otp it actually hurts #the chokehold asaden has is unmatched #asaden #chainsaw man #csm spoilers #chainsaw man 149 #denji #csm #asa mitaka #denji hayakawa #csm denji #mitaka asa #DENJI AND ASA ARE SO STARVED FOR LOVE IM SICK #ASADEN IS LIKE. TWO POOR STRAY PUPPIES LEFT OUT IN THE RAIN TRYNA KEEP EACH OTHER WARM DESPITE THE WHOLE WORLD DROWNING IN A NEVER ENDING #ONSLAUGHT OF MURKY PUDDLE TYPE WATER #SICKENING. I FEEL PHYSICALLY ILL

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punkkrat · 2 years

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csm x scott pilgrim

#I'm sorry but I'm not #chainsaw man #csm #scott pilgrim #denji #aki hayakawa #power #makima #himeno #kishibe #kobeni #bandaid propaganda #my art #is Scott pilgrim even relevant? i don't know #but I thought about this at 3 am and had to do it or else I was gonna explode

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girlwip · 5 months

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SHALL I MAKE YOU MY BOYFRIEND ?

✦ 　── 　 asa mitaka of chainsaw man graphics ( for rentry / whatever ).

✧ 　── 　 requested by anon. free to use ! credit is appreciated, but not required.

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pseudowriter69 · 2 years

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can we talk about this

#yoshiden #chainsaw man #chainsaw man spoilers #csm #csm spoilers #csm pt 2 #makima #denji #yoshida #i would put my actual thoughts on the matter here #but theyre messy and not fully. like. established

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blueish-bird · 11 months

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Denji is either:

a. willing to sacrifice his own comfort/barriers in order to save his loved ones (bummer interpretation, makes me sad)

b. deconstructing his comphet (more enjoyable interpretation; happy pride month!)

#csm spoilers #csm 132 #csm part 2 spoilers #love how Yoshida wasn’t even fazed by it jfgkf #Denji’s like: ok. I want sex. so that means everyone else wants it too. this guy is definitely gay so I can try to gain some control here.#and Yoshida is in fact gay. but there are larger forces at work or whatever so he’s got other priorities #so far part 2 Denji has been projecting his horniness/desperation for sex onto his peers and his peers Not reciprocating or relating At All #and part of that might just be bc in part 1 he was actively pursued by his peers and older women — with the goal of using/controlling him #which became what he was used to I’m guessing. but now that’s gone. he probably found some (unhealthy) satisfaction/validation in that attn #so now he’s recalibrating and trying to reconcile his previous experiences/expectations (where he was treated inappropriately)#with being a more ‘normal’ teenager #my csm thoughts #my csm meta #meposting

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sugar-grigri · 1 year

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Nayuta is NOT Makima

I may be optimistic, but Fujimoto likes to give us false ideas at the end of his chapters: the fact that Nayuta has the same haircut as Makima clearly serves to show their resemblance (after all they are the same demon) and to make us believe that Nayuta is a "mini-Makima"

What I hope she won't be: she's just a kid, who maybe given the rules she sets (rather normal really, it just seems like she's almost educating Denji), wants to play the big sister despite her age

From a narrative point of view, it wouldn't make sense to remake the same character because not only would the end of part 1 lose its meaning (if Nayuta becomes Makima again, Denji didn't save her), but the reader would be bored of finding the antagonist just in another version

The way the dogs are hooked at the leash also want to remind the power of the domination demon, and for me it's a false lead, to make believe in Nayuta's evilness

Nayuta is as cruel as a little sister who would be afraid that her brother (her only family) would move away from her, obviously since she is a demon it must be amplified

I still hope so, but the whole of part 1 serves precisely to demonstrate the other facets of love, such as that of a family, which is represented by the supreme act of platonic love: the hug. On top of that Denji really carries Nayuta in a brotherly and cute aura in the preview of part 2

In short, Nayuta is a demonic little girl who is still looking for her bearings, she won't become Makima again since what she was missing was a home and a family

#chainsaw man #denjichainsawman #asa mitaka #csm part 2 #csm manga #csm #csm spoilers #nayuta #makima #spoilers #csm 119 #my thoughts

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sillylittleguyinatrenchcoat · 2 years

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another csm batch i want episode 3 NOW!!!!!!!

#the hayakawa fam has a chokehold on me n my thoughts #theyre so funny god bless….#csm #chainsaw man #csm memes #chainsaw man memes #denji csm #aki csm #power csm #beam csm #kobeni csm #makima csm #angel csm #hayakawa family

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paintalyx · 1 year

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explaining chainsaw man part 1: "you know, when you're 16 and also a boy it really does feel like every girl you try to talk to wants to murder you and like there are chainsaws shattering your body to bits every single day"

explaining chainsaw man part 2: "you know, when you're 16 and also a girl it really does feel like you can't take two steps without tripping and like the only person who wants to talk to you is the bloodthirsty demon possessing your body"

#my stuff #csm #chainsaw man #chainsaw man part 2 #csm part 2 #asa mitaka #denji hayakawa #chainsaw man is just an elaborate metaphor for puberty actually #someone asked me what csm was really about since i fanboy about it with my friends in the hallway every time a new chapter drops #and this was unironically my answer #i could probably churn out some semi serious meta on that if one hasn't been written already #if i only rub my remaining two shrivelled braincells hard enough to produce a coherent thought unrelated to college

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sioboi · 4 months

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barem wants denji to be chainsaw man just like how makima did. but barem doesn’t understand makima. not like how pochita did. pochita knows that deep down, what the control devil wanted was an equal. someone to love her

it is so so wicked how he insults and belittles nayuta, makima’s reincarnation. nayuta is the control devil raised in an environment where she could be loved, where she could go to school, eat all the food she wants. however that isn’t the version of the control devil that barem loves, and so he hates her for it.

the parallels between makima and baremmm ugh. the way they both hurt and use what they view as a lesser, incomplete version of the thing that they worship. it’s so evil and so fascinating

#so many thoughts. thank u fujimoto for giving me something to think about this is my favorite activity #other #csm #chainsaw man #csm meta #csm spoilers #barem #makima #barem bridge #nayuta csm #barem csm #makima csm

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