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sanderstark · 3 years
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i j know that they deleted all these subplots to make sure it was “focused only on yasmina” and yes thats a good idea but it would be great if an actually well-written season was made for her 😃 this is a dumpster fire 🧍‍♀️
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nolabballgirl · 3 years
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in honor of international women’s day and yasmina’s birthday...
it’s 2021, so plotlines i’d like to actually explore in sana (now yasmina’s) seasons:
finally discussing the psychological and emotional effects on a young Muslim girl of having to remove your hijab every day at school; actually tackling what it means to have a hijab ban
girl squad (hello amber!) apologizing for any and all macro and microaggressions directed towards yasmina 
(if it airs in the next month) recognizing the relevance of Ramadan and how its lessons tie into and parallel yasmina’s storylines
that there’s nothing wrong or undesirable in being a practicing Muslim and that you don’t need to automatically integrate/assimilate to be Belgian
it’s 2021, so plotlines i’d like to retire forever from sana (now yasmina’s) seasons:
yasmina having to compromise her religion for the sake of a love interest
bench scene between yasmina and robbe, where the conclusion results in the emotional labor put back on yasmina to answer “dumb” questions instead of encouraging others to do the work and learn (seriously, a lot of these questions come up on the first page of a google search. we are not talking about explaining the first fitnah and the split leading to the sunni/shia divide lol)
homophobic Muslim parents/siblings (and if we go there, can we have a practicing queer muslim for once?!)
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bowieexaminprogress · 3 years
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Bowie how are you?
Love reading your blog and scene analysis posts today.
What is your opinion of Jens and Aaron and how they reacted to the b squad.
Hello nonnie!
I am good, thank you!
Jens and Aaron are used here as a plot device and they represent the part of the white Belgian community that holds racial biases against POC and the Muslim community. How ignorance and racism is prominent in society and how it feeds violence.
Those two mfs really are two ignorant bastards that are racists but they don’t even realise the racial bias and prejudice they carry. They found it pretty normal to just approach a group of moc and ask or better demand drugs assuming that they are dealing. Just think about it for a moment. Like are you fucking kidding me, dudes. Sit down! No wonder they got their asses beaten up.
From what we see Elias specifically says this is not the first time it happens. People making negative, racist assumptions about him, his friends and his community without even having a reason to do so. Because racism doesn’t need a reason. It is a hateful notion that feeds itself.
Yasmina was judged just by riding quietly the bus, the guys just by chilling on a bench. You see a pattern here.
Now I am very curious to see how this issue will get addressed by all parts of the group, the girl squad/ boy squad, when they actually had another part of their team, Kato, showing the exact same behaviours not a long time ago and make it make sense. Are they just gonna brush it off like they did with Kato and if they don’t why Kato got a different treatment then? Now that is where I am starting to get wary of what they are about to do. Because season 4 exists unfortunately and we cannot just pretend that it doesn’t.
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bowenandjohnson · 3 years
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Hi Sarah 🙋‍♀️
Well, since you asked... 😉 Can you rate your favourite “Sanas”? & perhaps could you include both Imaan and Esra (🇳🇱) in the ranking? 👼 (since Esra was in a sense also a Sana and she’s soo precious! 😻)
Thanks in advance! 💐
Love,
anonacht 🌃
P.S. Yes, I’m everywhere! 😈 Only friendly fire though! 💚
P.P.S. “nacht” = the Dutch word for night! 🤓 And it’s still a shame skamNL never moved beyond season 2! 😭
Hello, Twitter anon aka anonacht :) I love you too (also thanks for putting up with me on Twitter, because I am insufferable, at least to myself lol)
Thank you for indulging me, and requesting my Sana ranking. 
1. sana bakkoush - skam
It’s kind of sad that no other Sana season has been able to top the original, at least in my opinion. But Sana Bakkoush deserves this crown, because she is a character who redefined Muslim representation onscreen. Iman Meskini was such a force in her season, and everything Sana felt, she managed to make me feel like that too. When she cried, so did I. When she was angry, I was pissed, and so on. I love her and her Yousef so, so much. She is everything, honestly. I hope Sana is out there, being a doctor and revolutionizing medicine as we know it.
2. amira naybet - skam espana
Ooh, okay. I know a lot of people won’t agree with me on this one, and that’s fine! Amira Naybet means the world to me. Like literally, she is my comfort character. As I began this past fall semester as a junior in college during a freaking pandemic, she and Hajar Brown took my heart and ran with it. I personally love that she was also the Jonas in Cris’ season, as it gave her so much depth before her season aired. Ultimately, I agree that her season was flawed, and I definitely think that her season needed actual Muslim writers involved, and not just consultants. Her season production was also hindered by the pandemic too, which sucks, because I think a whole episode was cut from her season, and there was a lot of rewriting in the back half so they could meet COVID guidelines. But overall, I’m glad the writers tried to be different with their Sana and change some things up. I still love Amira, and I do love her relationship with Dani (although I will never understand that Al-Queda joke in his first clip, it feels like a misguided attempt at Spanish humor that did not translate well at all). And I’m glad Hajar felt safe and secure with this team and was happy with Amira’s story, given the circumstances. (ps: she deserved the full nine episodes, I don’t care what Movistar thinks.)
3. amira thalia mahmood - druck / zoya ali - skam austin
AMIRA THE SECOND. I love her too. I especially liked that she was technically the first Girl Squad member introduced in Hanna’s season, instead of Miss Mia. I liked that change. I also love the friendships she had with Matteo and David, and that Matteo was saved as “idiot” in her phone. She was truly a queen. Mohammed is also a king, one of my favorites. I also liked that Druck also tried to change some things and make their Sana season more relevant, with the Christchurch references and setting her season outside of Ramadan. But sadly, like Amira N.’s season, it failed to really delve into the racism that Amira had dealt with in the GS from Kiki. If Nadia was able to apologize well, I don’t understand why Kiki couldn’t have done the same thing. Again, I feel that her season needed Muslim writers to really delve into these issues. Also, the whole eight episodes thing? Dumb. They could have delved more into Mohammed’s immigrant experience and Amira reintroducing him to Islam, etc. Why can’t Amiras just get their full seasons for once? 
Onto Zoya, who sadly didn't get her season, but I feel like she was a great character, perhaps closest to the Sana from OG in terms of characterization. She was “no bullshit,” but also the fiercest, loyal friend out of the Austin GS, besides maybe Jo, who really had Kelsey’s back at the end of s2. I feel like we really missed out on seeing her story, as she was a Muslim teen living her high school experience under a Trump presidency and a Muslim travel ban (that’s now thankfully been repealed). I loved that she got Prom Queen in s2, but I hate that literally everyone dropped the ball when it came to supporting her. The GS basically ignored the locker graffiti aka a literal hate crime? *cough cough* hire POC and Muslim writers. She was a queen though, like all Sanas who came before her.
4. esra aydin & imaan elami - skam nl
Imaan was cool, I enjoyed her entrance in s1, which I rewatched just for this ranking. Her little car? The music? I love it! It sucks that she was absent for chunks of s1, but apparently the actress had personal issues, which is why she did not return for s2. Understandable. Long reign her entrance clip.
ESRA! I loved her! I’m so glad that after Imaan’s exit that they decided to cast another Muslim woman for Linn. I love her, I loved her relationship with Ralph and the other characters, and I have a feeling that Skam NL’s season 4 would have been about her. An Esra season would have been great because it would have given us an young adult main outside of high school, and probably further depth into the Esklid character. Again, pour one out for Skam NL :(
5. imane bakhellal - skam france
Imane seems cool. I haven’t watched much of Skam France outside of s3, parts of s6, and s7, which is currently airing. I’ve been wary to watch her season, because I’ve heard about her having to apologize to the GS, and things dealing with Ingrid and her brother... and Sofiane actually dating Manon???? Like, WHAT. IS. GOING. ON. Her Yousef seems cute but dumb. But otherwise, Assa is really pretty and really supportive of her fellow Sana counterparts on Insta, which has endeared her to me. And due to that fact, I will defend Imane to the ends of the earth, and I will watch her season eventually. I promise.
6. yasmina ait omar - wtfock
Yasmina is still a bit of a mystery to the audience, I think. But I do plan to watch her season, if only for Nora Dari, who is very pretty. Bel!Yousef, treat her right!
7. sana allegui - skam italia
No words needed.
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norgestan · 4 years
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Hi, Ela! Sorry I’m a bit confused... what do you think is Amira’s shame this season? Surely it can’t be that she can’t kiss her bland white boyfriend, right? Right???
JHFDSFSKJFDSJKJKFHK ANON
i’ve been hesitant to reply to this because it feels unfair to give an answer before the season is completed... but then i remembered the way eskam so cleverly showed all of their main’s shame in the first episode - or even on the first clip! (thinking about you, dear norita) like, ask anyone to watch the first episode of each eskam season and they’ll immediately give you an answer that carries through the end of the season. so eva is guilt/loneliness, cris is her inability to take responsibility bc she doesn’t think highly of herself, nora is her black and white view of the world, and viri is her status as a low middle class citizen. like i’ll be the first one to admit i really dislike how they handled viri’s storyline, but her shame is front and center on her growth.
when i look at amira and what happens on the first episode, looks like there’s a divided-between-two-world theme shown by the girl squad vs las labass storyline, and that carries through episode 2 and dies right there. cris hasn’t been confronted about being a bad friend and although amira accused her of islamophobic bias, it hasn’t been reinforced enough to make me think this is a thread the show will pick up again - not when amira is freely talking about her faith and romance with dani with the girls now. so... it’s not that.
moving on, the next important thing on episode one is... (sigh) dani. dani is not a source of conflict per se, but i think it’s the next best way to create a between-two-worlds dilemma, because hello, dani is not muslim. however, it seems like dani and amira’s “screw them” mindset has been getting them away from truly discussing what it means for a non-religious, christian-raised guy to date a devoted muslim girl. in moments like this i love to stop and remember the people who said amira dating a muslim guy would be boring because it means that they can’t “teach” the audience about islam, via amira teaching dani about islam and faith. i wonder where this people are now, when the show has never made them discuss faith, never made amira teach dani about islam or show dani looking things up by himself (and no, learning to dance does not count), and hasn’t even given us the tiniest indication that dani wants to become muslim himself (and no, that joke he made about food in the chats doesn’t count). but okay, i’ll stop being petty for a while and say: not even cris’ lack of support, kasim’s intricate web of lies or patri and ester’s shenanigans have destroyed the core of amira and dani’s relationship. so it’s not that either.
so what is the next thing happening on their relationship that actually brings some conflict? it’s something that has been the theme ever since dani and eva hooked up on that party in episode one, which is... amira is a devoted muslim, so she has made the choice not to be physically intimate with her romantic partners. which means that the show has presented us with 325641 scenes where a Moment happens and they have to pull back, with amira either looking uncomfortable, sad or embarrassed. she’s shown to feel like she’s not worthy of dani’s unwavering support and attention, to which he has to constantly reassure her :/ add to that monday’s talk with nora, and the ONLY reason the show has provided us for why amira gets mad at islam is that she wants to kiss her boyfriend but she can’t. wow, that’s... that’s really awesome.
for whatever is going to happen now, i think there is one thing left: the bit where amira lashes out at people and says horrible stuff. something she kinda did with her parents on episode 2 but that we haven’t really seen tbh. the closest she’s gotten is when she, well, outed kasim to dounia: eskam’s version of sana making that hate account for sara. and so it’s very probable that this is the thing that makes the girl and boy squads resent amira, with the added plus of las labass (what is even going to happen with dounia now?) and kasim. so that would make the lashing out aspect of amira’s personality her shame... something that was INCREDIBLY poorly foreshadowed. i’ve said before that amira feels very different to sana because she’s less impulsive and more steady, and it was cris who took her most aggressive scenes in s1: fighting with inés group, calling viri out, liking all of cristian’s pictures from eva’s instagram, etc. and even if that turns out to be her shame and what leads to the bench scene, there’s still the kissing thing to resolve and what i think will determine if amira and dani are endgame or not.
so if the lashing-out thing ends up being her shame (most likely answer) it has been very poorly set-up and doesn’t make a lot of sense for her character, and if her second shame is how she can’t live up to society’s expectations of romantic intimacy (something that was never a problem in og because sana dated a muslim-raised guy but, whatever), then that’s just... no.
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souriwin · 4 years
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Hi! Do you think Skam Italia did a good job with S4?
Hello! Probably a controversial answer but I think they did a pretty good job :)
It’s not perfect but it’s heartfelt? Like they had a lot of issues before shooting and I totally get people’s concerns about the casting etc but I think they took notes and gave us a really good and well thought of season. One of the scenes that I really liked’s the conversation Sana and Marti had. I love the dialogue and it’s well put together in a sense that they gave them more time to explain themselves and didn’t allow Marti to sort of allude that being gay is the same as muslim women wearing a hijab while still allowing him to get his point across that yes people will always ask stupid questions and we sometimes have to give them smart answers to correct and educate them to Sana. They also handled the girl squad drama really well that some of the remakes failed to do. So yup I really liked it 🥺
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Unpopular Opinions: Fandom Edition
Hey none of you asked but I’m here to deliver so here are some unpopular opinions for the fandoms I’m in. Spoilers, duh.
Marvel:
I don’t like Natasha. Or Steve.
Pepper Potts is a top.
As much as I love Loki, his death was nessicary in Infinity War.
Steve should have killed Bucky in Civil War. He was a threat, plain and simple.
I ship Ironstrange/Supremefamily.
Clint should have died in Infinity War.
I love Tony Stark with my whole heart. (Not an unpopular opinion but you needed to know that)
I’m not happy with the end of Endgame.
10 years in the making....for you to do Thor like that?
Not because he’s fat or because he’s dealing with trauma, that’s totally acceptable.
What’s not acceptable is them making Thor into the butt of the joke because he’s fat.
I love the Antman movies.
I’m totally not biased because I loved lost.
(I’m kinda biased)
Shuri is the best Marvel character and would beat Tony Stark in a battle of wits.
(I’m so gay I love her.)
With as many years as Marvel has had the MCU, I am disgusted at the lack of diversity within the movies.
Like it’s 2019 and we JUST got a female empowerment scene in Endgame.
Like I want a gay superhero.
(We have a disabled one thank god. Love you Stephen.)
And don’t give me that Valkyrie/Captain Marvel BS because they never blatantly stated or showed it in their movies.
I want an Asian superhero bitch.
A superhero who is Muslim/Islam/and religion besides Christian.
I think that, as much as I hate Natasha and Steve, they should have been the ones that Bruce first sees in Infinity War. I know it set up the whole “earth is closed today” sequence but it didn’t make sense and was OOC.
I love Stephen Strange and he’s never done a single thing wrong ever in his life I would die for this man.
I like MCU Peter Parker over the origional movie Spider-Man.
Fight me.
I also like the Tony Stark/Peter Parker better than the Uncle Ben/Peter Parker so @ me.
The 100
I don’t ship Bellarke that hard.
Like yes, I think they’re obviously being groomed to end up together. I know the show runners will make them official before the end of the series. I’m not mad about that, I just don’t really care to be honest. It’s like, too obvious.
But there are some cute bellarke scenes
What they did to Monty was bullshit but what they did to Jasper was worse.
I feel no guilt whatsoever in saying that I think that killing all of Mount Weather was what they should have done from the beginning.
Yes, even the kids. Because if you kill their leaders, the men and women will fight back. The colony would have been left with a handful of adults, and a bunch of kids if the origional plan had worked. This is doomed to fail and honestly just killing them all would be better than seeing them kill eachother for food, power, whatever. If that makes sense.
I think that Finn deserved to die.
I think that Murphey deserves the world.
Charlotte fucking killed Wells. Yes she’s young but she knows better than to kill someone. Maybe not kill her, but we all know that Clarke wouldn’t have banished her like she did Murphey. Clarke has a gender bias because Murphey didn’t do anything and she wouldn’t have punished Charlotte as hard because she’s a young girl. I rest my case
Even though what he did was bad and wrong, I don’t think Murphey should have been banished. He’s right. They were all compliant and even excited when he was being hung, but when it’s a little girl all bets are off.
Like Bellamy brought the whole hostage thing upon himself because he fucking tied a noose around Murphey’s throat.
Again, not that what Murphey did was right. He didn’t have to act like that. Jasper didn’t do anything to him.
Also this segment is getting long but the show writers and everyone else just casually forgot that Murphey was TORTURED? Hello? Are we not going to acknowledge that?
I shipped Clexa with my whole heart.
Another actually popular opinion: what they’ve done to Raven’s character this season is bullshit. Her only role is Abby’s moral compass. This is the same girl who shuttled to earth in a Tin Can. She’s better than this.
What the fuck??? Happened to??? Jordan???
Like Madi stabbed him
And then they proceeded to not talk about it for like four episodes and then casually mention it in passing like “oh he saved Pria that means he gets to live”
Like they set up his character to be really important this season.
But he’s not.
I think that Murphey/Emori is the best ship.
I also think that Either Murphey or Emori or Both are secretly double crossing the Primes. (This comes out before the finale of season six)
They didn’t have to do Onyia like that
The opening of season three is so weak that I actually stopped watching the show around that time (I’d been watching since the beginning of season two) because there’s just nothing there in the first like 10 minutes and I couldn’t do it.
Maybe I’m just impatient but it’s bad.
I think that Octavia did the best that she could with what she had available and I think that’s she’s not a bad person for what she did with the fighting pits/cannabalism. And I know that if Bellamy had been in her place, he would have eventually done the same.
Kane was a whiny bitch in season 5.
Why’d the kill Diyoza(I can’t spell) like that?
I liked Joesephine. It was really fun to see Eliza Taylor be able to get a new character in the show. Also props to her for that last episode with pretending to be Joesephine and being Clarke at the same time.
I called the dude being Gabriel from the first time I saw him you peasants.
Octavia’s redemption arc this season is beautiful.
They did....that.....to Kane. I’m angerey.
Lost In space
Not enough people watch this show. (The Netflix remake or the origional)
Seriously guys it’s a good show.
Absolutely nothing is wrong with it.
I love Don West with my whole heart.
I love Dr. Smith with my half heart.
I love the robot with my two hearts.
I love Penny Robinson with all the stars in the galaxy.
I love all of them okay.
There are no plot holes, no inconsistencies, no faulty science and anyone who says (or proves) otherwise is wrong.
It’s confirmed for a season two which should air in like the December-February time area.
It’s a Netflix show so you can binge the entire season in like a weekend.
Seriously watch it.
The Umbrella Academy
Five x Delores is weird.
Luther x Allison is illegal.
Klaus deserves all the push pops in the world.
The handler is hot.
The Comission killed Dave.
Luther is the most boring, Unorigional, straight white guy character I’ve seen in a long time. I hate him so much.
Allison is a queen but her character is brought down by her weird relationship with her brother.
Tbh if I was Allison you know I’d be telling my kids that I heard a rumor that theyd go the fuck to sleep. Like that’s a good thing. Idk maybe I’m just a sociopath.
Istanbul not Constantinople being played over a scene where five murders a squad of Commission people is the greatest cinematic masterpiece ever conceived by man.
“Where are you going” “to save the world” “oh is that all?” Iconic.
None of these are really unpopular but the show writers seem to think differently.
Diego has never done anything wrong in his life like yaaaasss bitch kill your brother at yo daddy’s funeral!!! Work!!!
PaTcH
AAaAHh
Big Theif - Mary is the perfect song to play over Klaus returning from Vietnam.
Will you love me, like you loved me in the January rain?
It’s up there with Goodbye July.
Speaking of Goodbye July....
Z Nation
Many people haven’t watched it
It’s like if The Walking Dead and Zombieland had a baby....and then the baby did a line of cocaine.
It’s wild.
Watching Garnet die ruined every sliver of hope I had in humanity.
I have a special place in my heart for this show because it’s the first show that me and my mom would stay up and watch the new episodes air every Friday. It brought us closer and I can’t thank the cast and show runners enough for this.
So maybe I’m biased, but you should watch it.
Having Murphey switch from being an anti-hero to a villain back to an anti-hero and then to a regular hero, amazing. Astonishing. The peak of human existence.
Even though he’s not entirely human.
What color is Murphey today? Is he pale, discolored, grey, blue, red? We don’t know!
Roberta Warren is the Black Goddess main protagonist that we deserve.
Addison Carver is a functional Bi.
10k is tragic backstory central but other than that, his character development is pretty lacking other than him persuing love interests.
None of these are really unpopular opinions but I doubt any of you have watched the show. It’s on Netflix. Watch it.
Oooooohhhhh George.
Georgia St. Clair could stomp me to death and my ghost would still want to fuck her.
Anyways I’m gay
God damn I have a lot of pent up Gay energy.
Murphey and Lucy have a realistic enstranged father/daughter relationship and it’s heartwarming.
And then they killed her off to save him.
Honestly if you name a character Murphey they can only be assholish bad boys with a good heart deep down sorry I don’t make the rules.
Also if you name a character Murphey I will love them with my whole soul.
I’m so mad they cancelled the show.
I’m infinitely more mad that they named that disgrace of a show Black Summer and claimed that it was a prequel....but it didn’t follow the same cast and had they not advertised it as a prequel I would never have guessed.
Black Summer gives totally opposite vibes than Z Nation does. I get that black summer is supposed to be the worst time that the zombie apocalypse ever had, with cannibals and no food, but it feels like s completely different show.
It’s like if The Walking Dead claimed that it is a prequel/occurs during Shaun of the Dead.
Like....no. They’re....no.
Anyway watch it it’s good.
Detroit: Become Human
Connor isn’t the best character.
This is an unpopular opinion post deal with it.
Markus has to be my favorite.
Honestly this game is so good and not even just graphics-wise.
It’s the same robotic sentience story we’ve been fed for years, but this time it’s from the Android’s perspective and this time all they want is to be free. That’s it.
I fucking hate North.
Hank is literally if Rick from Rick and Morty were serious.
The only correct way to play Connor is to walk the thin line between deviant and regular A.I. Without leaving out Hank. The correct thing to do is make Conner deviant at Jericho.
The only correct way to play Kara is to protect Alice with every fiber of your being. Meanwhile, get close to her. Do not get caught, even if that means dissappointing her.
The only correct way to play Markus is to lead a peaceful revolution. Also tell North to fuck off.
The border patrol guy who either gets Kara and Alice caught or knowingly lets Androids cross the border is the best character. Forget about Markus, this guy sees either “oh fuck androids are killing people, maybe we shouldn’t let this one cross the border” or “Androids just want to be free and are peacefully fighting for this. Let this one and her daughter through.” I love him.
LUTHER.
YES DADDY.
anyway.
Let Out The Bear He Just Wants To Say Hi :)
Even though I think Conner is overrated by the fandom, I do like him.
But he’s not a pure innocent cinnamon roll either.
It depends on how you play, but he has really violent options so stop the “He wouldn’t harm a fly” attitude.
But he is cute.
The home screen for the game is revolutionary (no pun intended) and I hope future game follow suit in making the first impression of the game something cool.
Stealing clothes/money/the fence cutters is literally okay.
Also if you put Kara in white hair you can die.
If in your first actual play through you got the Kara lives at the recycling plant ending but Alice dies, you can die too.
I’ve never actually seen the steal money and go to motel option play out because it’s stupid, especially if you don’t steal clothes. Like that’s begging to be caught.
Stranger things
Billy Hargrove is bad and just because he’s abused does not make what he does okay.
Harringrove is gross and I’m gay so my opinion counts as double.
That being said, there are some really cute fics about Harringrove and I can see the appeal of “good boy falls for mysterious bad boy with a dark past and trauma”
I’ve said I’m gay this whole post because I say it a lot, but I don’t like actually labeling myself but I like girls and boys and everything in between and I say I’m gay kinda as a joke when girls are hot.
That being said...
Steve Harrington calling himself Daddy made me feel things.
Strange things.
Haha get it I’m making a joke to distract you from the daddy part.
Steve Harrington is a good person now, but he was still an asshole before and he can still be criticized for his past.
I used to be hardcore Jancy but after season three I feel like Nancy needs and deserves a break from boys so she can figure out herself and who she is now and what she wants to do without the weight of boys and boyfriends constantly around her.
That being said i still don’t like Nancy because she was flirting/slept in the same bed with Jonathan whilst obviously having feelings for him while she and Steve were still a thing. It’s not cheating but to me it’s close enough to raise red flags.
Robin is perfect in every way.
I don’t like Jonathan. He’s creepy in s1, fine in s2, but then is s3 he doesn’t do anything to or about his male bosses when Nancy is being made fun of because she’s a woman.
Seeing Nancy’s class priveledge/Jonathan’s male priveledge clashing was so cool tbh
Elmax > Mileven > Lumax
Jim Hopper, with all his faults, is still a caring dad.
Plus him threatening Mike made me laugh so hard sksksksks
Steve Harrington deserves the world and then some.
Low key I really want s4 to give in insight on his family life.
I also want him to get an apartment with Robin.
Robins cute tbh but for half the season I though she was a Russian spy. I guess I was wrong.
Mrs. Wheeler shouldn’t sleep with billy (not that she can now) because it’s wrong, but the reason she wanted to is because her husband is so boring and she gave up on her dreams to be his perfect housewife. She wanted a challenge with Billy. Instead, she should leave her pushover of a husband and find someone better.
Anyway Steve Harrington deserves the world.
Yeah okay hate me whatever.
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sekoui · 4 years
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you,,, watched,,, esp s2,,, my fav isak season,,, give us thots pls 🤧
i was pretty emotionally connected to wtfock
but this hit me like a truck. i didn’t cry much for wtfock (during OHN i did, and now i get emotional when i hear wildfire but that’s it)i cried in every episode of skam esp season 2. and sometimes through multiple clips. there are a number of reasons why1. the relationship between amira and crisholy shit their friendship is beautiful. the way that skam esp tied in so many aspects of other characters’ struggles was so so well done. learning about viri, watching amira experience ramadan while teaching her friends, seeing how amira navigated cris’s mother’s comments, how cris navigated her mother’s comments, seeing how cris set up this whole iftar (that she had cancelled originally) just for her best friend, seeing their friendship flourish and develop so so deeply. and to have been best friends since they were tiny??? cris’s mother had some respect for amira but the backhanded comments still happened. like, she admired this girl so much but also pitied her for her faith and believed that her decisions were not her own. like amira was somehow the “other” of the muslims and still pulled into something that cris’s mama believed to be negative. this was so fucking real. it was really nice to see a muslim supporting character show up consistently and in a way that was meaningful and loving. i hope we get an amira season one day because i’ll frankly die. she and yasmina are really dear to my heart.2. joana + borderline personality disorderobviously the evens are a highlight of the season. i have personal connections to bipolar (many of my family members have it) but one of my best friends has borderline personality disorder. to see joana replicate some of our own experiences as friends, to see her struggle through something that i know is so difficult for my friend, was literally beautiful. the way she describes herself, the way she perceives herself, how there’s so much push and pull. i had been warned that this isak season was the most back/forth of the isak seasons between isak/even and at first i brushed it off. but as the season continued i got to see what they meant when they said there was so much back and forth. and for good reason.borderline personality disorder is so misunderstood and has 0 representation. it’s hard to understand for the medical community, for friends and family of someone with BPD but even more for the person that has BPD. the back and forth between them was so fucking realistic. i’ve witnessed her experience it in her own relationships and even her friendship with me. i’ve learned a lot about BPD through her but what i love love love about this season was that it was a stark reminder that mental illness is not a barrier to love.  3. the girls??? HELLOholllyyy shit i loved this girlsquad. i loved that the season felt so female-focused (though i think all of skam esp’s seasons have been female-focused so far, so big win for me). but their genuine love and support. the gentle way they call each other out. the way they try to understand each other. there was no nasty infighting. it was really nice to see how much they all show their love for each other in different ways. like– my heart. and soul. they are so in tune with one anothers’ feelings that i couldn’t help but fall more in love with them every time they were together. and separately too, what the hell? how perfect are they?i love how they pulled joana into their friendgroup without treating her like “x’s girlfriend” but rather as her own person.they are so embracing of one another. they really look out for each other in such intimate ways– and when the girls were listening to cris and they all got emotional? I FELT IT UGHH4. the boys??? HELLOshout out to the boy squad for being supporting characters that are not annoying/toxic/chauvinist/disgusting. and for being supportive. like?? coming to the iftar, showing up to the lame party, checking on the girls. and for their internal support of each other off-screen or on the side? loved that5. the cultural similarities to my own culturei’ve always said that hispanic culture and arab culture are pretty similar. the notion that they are all living with their parents felt relatable to me, i can’t relate to the other seasons as much because my parents, never in 1 million years, would have let me moved into a flatshare with friends and paid for it (lmfao?!!?).there are other things here but i can’t remember them all off the top of my head6. cris loli love that cris is someone who is so confident in some areas but doubts herself and her abilities. she thinks she’s not smart so she doesn’t try as hard or study as much. she is so loving to her friends and is there for them in ways she doesn’t even realize she is and that’s so beautiful because her selflessness comes from the heart. i love how she was afraid of the future but was still willing to face it. side note? i love how joana instilled confidence in her academically. to see joana notice cris’s insecurity and build her up to believe that she is smart and has good ideas was so heartwarming. i loved that there was a balance between them in terms of who needed the confidence to grow in something and it wasn’t all about cris’s internalized rejection of her sexuality? and that joana could be that for her. 7. dani’s crush on amiraLMAOOOO I UNEXPECTEDLY LOVED THIS SOOO MUCH??? to see this guy who has a crush (and has had one!?) on his sister’s best friend (that his mom is like “omg she’s gonna marry some guy right out of high school”!!) is so cute. and the way he POPS UP when cris asks to be taken to the hospital and he’s like“AMIRA!??!?”because he genuinely cares about her but doesn’t creep on her AT ALL?? help i loved that all in all i really loved the season and i am sure i had more to say last night while i was bawling about it but it is what it is!!
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"#why can't the muslim main get the same attention as all the other mains huh?" Because unfortunately, she's the last season. So it's their last chance to wrap up all of the other characters because it's their last chance to do it.
hello anon :)
but there are ways how to do it without leaving amira's pov. I mean maybe we're wrong and we'll go back to amira's pov tomorrow.
But amira leaving for Australia is actually a perfect way how to sort of say goodbye to the characters as Amira can go around and talk and say goodbye to all her friends. Let her visit Mia and Alex, see their happiness and find out what they're gonna do, let her visit the wg and spend time with the boys and Hans and Linn, let her do some fun things with the girls including Hanna, let her have a celebratory thing where we see the boy squad. Let her spend some time with her brothers. Like we can get updates on them while still being in Amira's pov. I'd be bothered by it less. 
It's just...7 episodes of Amira's POV versus 10 episodes of the white characters (if that's what is happening). Yeah, that is just not a good look you know.
And i feel I need to put a disclaimer here that I'm not like shitting or hating on them or being unnecessarily negative or whatever. I love Druck even if they do fuck up sometimes. I love Druck so much. I'm going to the fan event and I'm gonna cry a lot there probably. I love it. I'm just saying that the pov change at this point in the season is making me feel a bit uneasy and if it'll continue I'll be a bit disappointed in druck.
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Today is Hajar Brown’s birthday! I dug deep into The Hajar archives to translate this interview that she, Danny Arcos and Vítor Blanco gave Córdoba TV about SKAM Hajar.
Enjoy!
NAIMA: Assalamu alaikum (peace be unto you). Good night. Welcome to one more week, another program about us women. We have a show full of surprises today, truthfully, as well as a show that Laura is particularly excited about because we have very young people with us.
LAURA: Yeah, I love that sort of thing. It’s a treat being able to share the evening with these three young people. You prepared the interview, so everything we’ll tell you is a surprise for me too.
NAIMA: Yes, the truth is we always have new surprises, but beyond that, we have our usual features. We’ll talk about all the news from the past few days that are related to women. They’re all not very good news, but they must be included. And as with every show, we’ll talk about women and Islam. So we’ll be back in a few seconds.
NAIMA: We’re back and as Laura said earlier, we have three young people with us. Welcome. Hi, how are you?
HAJAR, DANNY, VÍTOR: Hi, hello.
NAIMA: Good night. We have Hajar Brown with us. Assalamu alaikum, Hajar, welcome.
HAJAR: Salam.
NAIMA: This is Danny Arcos. Welcome, Danny. And Vítor Blanco. Good, I haven’t mixed any name up.
VÍTOR: No.
NAIMA: So we have these students. They are college students who, a few months ago, if I recall correctly, started a project, which they worked very hard on. But we want to know what that project is. We’ll start with the directors, Danny and Vítor. Let’s see, tell us, because we’ve heard the story of a movie, a short film, something about Skam, something about Muslims, so tell us a bit about it. What was this project about?
DANNY: So uh, at first it came up as homework that we had for our Sociology of Communication course, in which we more or less study social representation on TV and so on. And we had homework which consisted on analyzing a show or an audiovisual project that we liked. And we chose the TV show Skam, which is a Norwegian series…
NAIMA: Yes, tell us, because we have no clue.
DANNY: Okay.
NAIMA: Because we saw Skam and it was like, it is an acronym? Or I don’t know.
DANNY: It’s like…
VÍTOR: It’s shame in Eng…
DANNY: No, in Norwegian.
VÍTOR: In Norwegian.
DANNY: So that’s it, it’s shame and it’s a teen show about a girl squad, who are all very different, but they manage to become really good friends. And one of them was a Muslim girl, called Sana. And we liked that character a lot. And besides, the show deals with teenagers in a very positive way, it’s not the typical thug, drug, sex, alcohol show, these are all topics that are kinda boring, no? They deal with it in a positive way and we decided that our project would be to create like an episode…
NAIMA: Of that show?
DANNY: Yes. That show, but adapted to Spain.
VÍTOR: To Madrid, right.
NAIMA: Makes sense. So once you saw that, you see that example of a Muslim teen, as one more character on a teen show, which is something that has yet to happen in Spain, how did you make the decision? I mean, right, we need to get in touch with a Muslim girl, how was the process of getting in touch with a Muslim girl before actually speaking with that girl?
VÍTOR: Right, we started from the point in which we had no experience whatsoever about what it’s like to be a Muslim young girl in Madrid, and so we couldn’t go in depth with a script, because we wouldn’t know what to write. So Danny knew Hajar through instagram.
DANNY: I was already a Hajar fan.
VÍTOR: Yep.
DANNY: I followed her, so I said, “well, we could talk to her and say…” Right, we have to see if she’ll reply back first, because my instagram is like, pictures of buildings and stuff like that. I said, she’s not going to reply, because I come off like a weird man and she’s gonna say no or something, but… She gave us attention.
NAIMA: Hajar, when you got that instagram message from boys you don’t know at all, like, we want to make a TV show, something about Muslim women, what did you think? Like those typical messages that we get all the time.
HAJAR: Yeah… The difference is that their message, I saw that it was more thirty lines plus, I said, “they really put work on this.” They were serious, they wanted to do this thing, and then of course, I checked his instagram, and it didn’t have any pictures of him. I didn’t know his face, I didn’t know him. But because I’m a really good stalker, I found out who he was. And then yeah, I decided to meet up with them and talk about it and more or less hear them out and see what they wanted to do, and if it wasn’t contradictory, if it was doable, then we’d do it.
NAIMA: And what was your first impression? What was the first thing you found out when you talked to Hajar?
DANNY: Yeah, we came to the meeting with some stuff written down.
VÍTOR: Yeah, both of us had, we’d done like a brainstorming of things we’d like to talk to her about, to see how they can be shown on a TV show.
NAIMA: Right, but you’d said that you had no idea what it’s like to be a young Muslim woman and…
DANNY: Right, right.
LAURA: Living in Madrid… What was the first thing she told you… Those things you didn’t know and that suddenly made everything clearer for you.
DANNY: Yeah, so we wanted, like, the things we’d already come up with, if she wanted to add something. Like, what would you like to see on TV, what do you miss in mass media? And we kind of like, agreed on stuff…
HAJAR: Yes, all three of us… More or less with the topics they brought to the table, we removed some things, we added other things that were more interesting, well, I reorganized it…
NAIMA: You were the censor there, huh?
HAJAR: Yeah, but because they were topics that were a result of ignorance, because they didn’t have references, or because they’d never talked to a Muslim person, a Muslim woman. So I saw it as a very normal thing that they had those doubts or they thought like that, but just because they’d never been around Muslims… I think!
NAIMA: Not to embarrass them, but what, what were the things you brought to the meeting that Hajar said, “we’re not going to talk about this”?
DANNY: Uh, well. For instance on the TV show, Sana’s season focuses on a romantic relationship. And we decided, better not. Because that kind of thing depends more on the person, stuff like that, and we didn’t want to focus, like it’s always the case with women, in a relationship with a man. We say, no, we want Hajar to be the focus, and… Her experience with her friends and such.
NAIMA: What did you think of the idea, Hajar?
HAJAR: Hm… Fabulous, divine.
NAIMA: She was thinking of a word that would sound positive.
HAJAR: Fabulous. To be part of these really cool things is something I always like, I don’t know. It was a really new thing. They came to me with really fresh ideas, to do something new, and to do it according to me. To more or less show, more or less what life is, the day-to-day of a woman, although… We couldn’t show all of that in the short film, even though there’s a lot of good material in there, time was limited. To bring to people what a Muslim woman is like in her day-to-day, rather than the usual portrayals, I find lavish.
LAURA: And what was that life like? Tell us what happens on the short film, what you weren’t able to film, or what you weren’t able to tell, but tell us. I know those are spoilers. But anyway, we’re going to get that perk, the luxury to know.
DANNY: Me? Okay.
LAURA: Whoever wants to talk.
DANNY: Well, when it comes to topics, we preferred not to write a script, but rather that Hajar ad-libbed…
NAIMA: Let her do her own thing!
DANNY: Yes.
LAURA: That is, almost like a documentary.
DANNY: Yeah, because we started with her, like with an idea, but without a script, that is, nothing written down.
VÍTOR: Right, the thing is the TV show has this very young, very digital aesthetic, this very new kind of video format, like instagram. So then we wanted to do it a bit more direct, and we wanted to show everyday life. So instead of having a script, with a script format, we wanted it to be Hajar, who is actually acting, but acting out her life. Otherwise she’d be a professional actress playing Hajar. And we wanted it to be a more direct thing.
LAURA: Fresher.
NAIMA: And once you started shooting, once you’ve come to an idea, you’ve found Hajar and you’re going to film her life. What was the process of actually doing the project, which is now a short film?
VÍTOR: Chaotic.
NAIMA: Yeah, one of the things about not having a script or anything prepared is it becomes chaos. Tell us about that chaos.
DANNY: Yeah, we suffered that chaos. We had to… The thing is the equipment we had was another difficult issue because we filmed with our cameras, and then we didn’t have a proper microphone. There’s a part of the short film which is subtitled [to Spanish], because our university loaned us a microphone that doesn’t work… UCM [Complutense University of Madrid], please, invest in equipment. Yeah, so we had to subtitle it. Then there was footage with no sound, so we had to take that out. But as a matter of principle, yeah, more than a proper story, it was more things that we wanted to show.
NAIMA: And you who made the decision, okay, I have the opportunity to show that day-to-day, that everyday life, to be normal and Muslim, which you’d think it’s impossible going by mass media. You have this opportunity. What moments did you say, okay, this is what people have to see, this is what I want to convey or this is what I want people to know about young Muslim women?
HAJAR: If it was up to me, the short film would be an average day in life, with nothing going on, absolutely nothing. I’d wake up, go to school, come back, eat, no plot or anything else. That’d be my perfect short film. But taking into account the ideas they already had, they more or less told me the situations they wanted to show, I said I liked that, because… I don’t think every Muslim woman has gone through something like that, but there are some who have. For instance, when you have, the party scene, you throw a party with Muslims and non-Muslims, and the kind of conflicts that result from that, because the non-Muslims hear party and they might bring alcohol, and they don’t know… A conflict that exists for instance. While I’ve almost never been in that situation, I do know people who have, and then yeah, their idea was, well, to show tolerance and that Muslims and non-Muslims can live together, that thing people always say. I thought it was good to show that.
NAIMA: To show it. And in the short film, for those who haven’t seen it, instead of telling the girls beforehand, she makes them leave [the booze] outside the house. I love that.
HAJAR: They leave the junk outside the door.
NAIMA: So people see it.
LAURA: But then there are other scenes, right? Something happens.
HAJAR: Something happens.
LAURA: Something happens. Can we talk about what happens and how was it shoot that? That thing we’re talking about, a girl who gets drunk, or what happened…
HAJAR: Yeah, she sneaks a bottle inside the house and gets drunk.
VÍTOR: Hiding in the bathroom.
DANNY: It’s because we wanted to show, like, it’s criticism of our idea of a party. That section is like, we can’t go out to party without drinking, we can’t party, and it’s criticism of the idea we have of a party. I mean, we’re with a super cool group, you’re having a great time, and you have to spoil it doing that.
LAURA: Besides that, have you included any other social criticism in this movie?
VÍTOR: Well, there’s a sexual harassment scene, and how the girls react to that sexual harassment, as well.
NAIMA: Yeah, they almost make him disappear between all of them.
HAJAR: True!
LAURA: And once you’ve done this short film, you’ve started this project, you have met, as you said, you knew this Norwegian series and you’d seen another portrayal of a Muslim woman. You’re Media students as well, so you are in close contact with mass media, so once you move from the theory, fiction, or mass media, to know Muslim women in real life, not just following Hajar on instagram, but to be with her, with other girls, and so on, and to see Muslim women talking together… What was that like for you? What did you make of that situation?
VÍTOR: Well, we were given an incredible present in that we were able to attend an Achime meeting, which is an NGO. We were allowed to attend and film… Actually, in the short, it’s only three minutes, but we shot for over an hour.
DANNY: Yeah, an hour.
NAIMA: You should’ve shown everything, you know?
VÍTOR: That could be a short film all of its own, you know? And right, the truth is we learned a lot…
DANNY: Yeah, and then…
LAURA: What did you learn? Tell us something, something that got your attention in that meeting, for instance. What was approaching the Muslim world like for you, too?
DANNY: I mean, she treats it like a normal thing. Yeah, it’s part of her life, it’s nothing hugely important.
NAIMA: It’s not like, “I’m going to put on a Muslim costume,” but rather… She’s just there.
DANNY: They always told us, they didn’t want it to be like a manifesto, these are their actual lives. And that’s it. So we said, okay, so their lives, and that’s why in the meeting we wanted to include important things, but also little details like the licorice and stuff.
NAIMA: No, that’s very important.
DANNY: Yeah, stuff like that, that we found humorous and sort of like everyday.
NAIMA: Okay, so you’re satisfied with the project, then?
DANNY: Yes.
NAIMA: And how it came out?
LAURA: And how has it been received by your peers…
NAIMA: Yeah, the community.
LAURA: Your teachers, and above all, well, did you get a good grade, what did they say about…
VÍTOR: Very good.
DANNY: A very good grade! A ten out of ten.
VÍTOR: A ten.
HAJAR: Oh, so good. I didn’t know that.
NAIMA: All thanks to… And you, Hajar, what did you learn of the experience? What did it mean for you? And have you, once you’ve seen, once it has been edited, have you tried to project your life onto this short film, or what you consider to be life in general for a Muslim woman, after you saw… In this project? And after having finished it. How did you feel? Did you feel satisfied, is there anything you miss, do you need anything else?
HAJAR: During the process I felt very comfortable, because they and the people I worked with that I didn’t know, make me feel very comfortable. You more or less have the same ideas, the same outlook in life, they listen to you, you listen to new ideas. We had a talk on the bridge, were you there?
DANNY: We didn’t shoot that.
HAJAR: The thing is it was super funny, because we’re on a bridge to go shoot, I don’t know, I don’t remember what it was.
DANNY: The subway, the subway scene.
HAJAR: Ah, the subway scene. So we were on the bridge waiting for the directors. And on one side you had the Muslims, the Muslim actresses, and on the other side, it was such aesthetics! I mean, visually.
DANNY: It was really cool.
HAJAR: And we discussed things we had in common, and we saw it from the point of view of non-Muslims, from our point of view, and that was really… That was actually enriching and I had a great time, and I don’t know. I mean, after I watched the shot film, because I hadn’t seen it, I watched it on premiere day. I mean, on one hand I’m really happy, super happy to have finally watched the film, I’ve seen my peers’ work, and the meeting room was full, which was really special for me, so many people came, some with posters and all, it was wonderful.
DANNY: Facts. [said in English]
HAJAR: And then of course, we shot the film in May and we watched it in October. In October?
DANNY: Yes, in November.
HAJAR: in November. So then I saw myself on screen and it was like, I’m not that anymore, like, I’d say if I were to make a short film now I wouldn’t do any of this. But that’s because I think that I’ve semi-evolved. So yeah I’m always very happy to watch the short film, but I’m not at that point anymore. I’m not stuck in that place, I’m doing other things. I’m going to, I don’t know, Córdoba TV, for the short film premiere. You know? I don’t know, the experience was very good and I don’t know, if the directors want, I’d keep working with them. They have to decide that.
VÍTOR: Man!
HAJAR: They have to talk about it. They have actually told me something, like, they had something in mind, but I mean, here I am putting them on the spotlight, they can talk if they want.
NAIMA: Do you agree or not?
VÍTOR: We’re, we’re thinking about it.
NAIMA: They have passed the course and they’re going to— Another question, because besides Hajar, there are other girls as she said, she just reminded me, there were other actresses. Well, not exactly actresses, they played as themselves. Other Muslim girls who have participated.
HAJAR: That’s true.
NAIMA: So like, you all, Hajar, as Muslims we sometimes complain particularly about the way we’re shown in mass media, the way they talk about us without asking us, without talking to us, without knowing us. But then a lot of times, when there’s an opportunity to speak, there are many who take a step back, who don’t want to show up. How was it received in that organization, Achime, was it like, are they going to speak or not? Do we want to show up or do we want people to tkeep talking about us without us participating? She pauses, as if to make sure she doesn’t say anything that might offend anyone.
HAJAR: No, no… I didn’t encounter any problem. The ones who wanted to participate were very happy, like, “oh yeah!” I told them about it. Very happy. Yeah yeah yeah. And I don’t know, I didn’t come across any problem with anyone. The ones who didn’t want to be filmed, then no problem, but the ones who wanted to show up, divinely.
NAIMA: And on a more general level, this social rejection, or what about you two [Vítor and Danny], how do see that portrayal of Muslims in mass media, and then a lack of representation, I mean, do you think it’s caused by Muslims or a general issue with mass media where opportunities aren’t given?
DANNY: I would say mass media.
VÍTOR: The media.
NAIMA: Right, they’re the sole guilty parties.
VÍTOR: No, it’s like Hajar just said, in the end we had a bigger group that we had planned because people were interested, because they wanted to participate. I mean, if they want to participate in our short film, they actually don’t want to show up in media? In professional media? I’d guess they do want to.
DANNY: Right, I just sent a DM, you know?
VÍTOR: A message through instagram.
DANNY: And they cooperate. It wasn’t complicated at all, and if we could do it when we have no experience, we’re nobodies… Then powerful media, yeah. If they insist on those portrayals, it’s also because they want to.
LAURA: Yeah, honestly, because… Excuse me, this movie was conceived for social media above all, no?
DANNY: It’s a short film.
LAURA: Hence the pacing.
DANNY: Yeah, exactly.
LAURA: It’s a short film, but the way it’s paced and particularly how you’ve promoted it has been through social media, so that results in getting a lot of feedback from people who… Tell us about that, how have you dealt with it, has everything been positive, or have there been people who have been critical of your work?
DANNY: Uh, the social media thing comes from the TV show too. From Skam. Because it’s like, they are clips that get dropped through the week and with each daily clip, they edit an episode at the end of the week. So we liked that format a lot, because it seemed very intert-esque to us, very like us, very contemporary.
VÍTOR: Things like that.
NAIMA: Have you gotten permission, I just thought of this, to use the name?
DANNY: No.
NAIMA: I mean because if they find out… you’re gonna poop yourselves.
DANNY: Right yeah. We’ve thought about it, so…
VÍTOR: We want to come back to the material…
DANNY: We want to do it again in a different way.
NAIMA: You two are a menace. And what did you think of that feedback, the people, how have they received it? Not just the girls, your friends, your peers, who participated, but people in the Muslim community who the short film has reached, the ones who found out about it, how have they received it?
HAJAR: You know what, the short film actually isn’t out properly. Only the people who came to the premiere have watched it.
LAURA: Oh, okay, okay.
HAJAR: So the people who went to the premiere did because they’re interested, and their feedback, they thought everything was wonderful. So we still haven’t reached people who don’t follow us or know what we’re like. I don’t know when you’ll be able to up…
DANNY: We’re uploading it.
HAJAR: Upload it.
LAURA: But come on, boys, you have to show this to people. It’s obvious you’ve made it so people watch it.
DANNY: Yeah, we just had problems with the rights and all.
NAIMA: Right.
HAJAR: When people watch it…
NAIMA: Your parents have watched it?
HAJAR: No.
NAIMA: Okay.
HAJAR: But I mean, I told them about it and they loved it!
NAIMA: “Very good, do a very good job.” So then I don’t know if you want to ask them anything else.
LAURA: Well, I only want to know whether you really aspire to show this work you’ve made everywhere or, even, whether you want to work with her again and to do something like this again, because I think that the work you make is for people to watch it, keeping in mind what we’ve talked about, no? This kind of representation that is not happening in mass media, and you have to do it now, and it has to be watched now. And I think you’re a seed for this to happen, so please, publish it, get it sorted, come on, we’ll help. What do we need to do?
VÍTOR: No, uh, it’s being uploaded at the moment. We wanted to show with [the Muslim girls in the short film] first, so that it was an actual event, a premiere so to speak. And now we can…
NAIMA: So he says. And as Media students, as future media figures, what do you think of show biz, what is your perspective, your goals? What year are you in?
DANNY: We’re seniors, we’re done this year.
NAIMA: Your goal in the middle term, long term.
DANNY: Yeah, so far, we don’t have a lot of hope to get a job right away because show biz is complicated. But that’s why we have projects we want to do. This thing now, we’d like to do an internet miniseries, changing the name, no Skam rights or anything. With an actual script. More developed.
VÍTOR: Like shooting it with a bit more professionalism.
DANNY: Yeah, and maybe do a curserfin or something like that.
[general confusion as Vítor and Danny try to figure out what Danny meant]
DANNY: Not curserfin. With crowdfunding for microphones or something, so we can have the equipment to really shoot it properly, with that group, because we wanted it to be more diverse. Because in Skam there was only one Muslim girl and she was meant to be the diversity. And we wanted to go more in depth and include Asians, blacks, whites…
LAURA: So to go more in-depth into the material. And you, Hajar, have you made up your mind about the future or this foray into acting?
NAIMA: Are you going to drop your engineering studies and become an act…
HAJAR: Uh, no, the acting thing is something I’ve done since I was a kid. It’s always been a hobby, a bonus, within myself, and I’ve always had fun with it. Yes, I love engineering and I’m not dropping out, but if these kind of things come up, then why would I say no?
NAIMA: Of course.
HAJAR: If I’m given the opportunity, which we’re rarely given, then if you’re given it, hold onto it, cling to it.
LAURA: Right!
NAIMA: You have to take it. So we genuinely wish you every success, with this short film which actual name we’ll announce when it gets one, as well as your professional career. And of course, to keep working through our output, so we can demolish stereotypes, our worlds become closer, and to work all together for the benefit of everyone, because when we get together, we can create things such as your work. Anyway, thank you so much for coming.
DANNY: Thank you.
NAIMA: Let’s keep on being main characters and we’ll follow this short film.
NAIMA: We have already watched Skam, and when it’s uploaded, they should tell you all, Hajar should tell you so you can watch it.
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shame-in-dutch · 5 years
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Hello! I have a silly question about the Sana character! I thought the actress had “scheduling conflicts” and that’s why she wasn’t in the promo or in the beginning of season 2. But now I see a girl added to the group - how does the show explain this new addition? I haven’t been able to track down all the clips so I’m just curious! Thanks :D
Not a silly question at all!
So the new character is Esra and she’s not really part of the girl squad but she’s best friends with Ralph (Dutch Eskild). I think she’s kind of a hybrid of Linn and Imaan (Dutch Sana), I’m glad they’ve brought in more muslim representation when they could have easily not bothered. So far I like her, she’s amazing in the last clip of ep 3 with her dancing :’)
Check out @skamdutch for finding all the clips, they post them with subs but also put subs on the youtube clips, if you use a vpn, that way you’re supporting the show :D
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I've seen you in the tag a few times and your contributions are always spot on. I can sense from your very measured but honest posts that you are prepared for the season to disappoint and I expect that your commentary will have less of a optimistic tone as the season progresses. For some reasons I am aware of and some reasons I'll never understand. The "Sana" seasons always feel like they are inexplicable lead astray. Which of the "sana" season do you prefer atm?
hi, Anon! thanks for your ask and your compliments. i always get a little burst of adrenaline whenever a “sana” season is about to start. the “sanas” are the positive and realistic portrayals of muslim women that i never had when i was in school, so the optimist in me always hopes for the best with these seasons.  after all, the building blocks are right there to make these seasons shine. yasmina is such an empathetic, grounded presence and a good friend to the girls that i really worry about the show retconning her character traits to squeeze in OG storylines. i would rather have the show explore yasmina’s relationship to the girls (how she felt when amber said those things to her during S1; how she felt during the last scene of wtfockdown; etc.)
however, i do think faith is a tricky subject, and when you have a non-muslim showrunner and writing team who just can’t reconcile in their own minds why a muslim would choose faith over love; who can’t conform sana’s choices into their own views on feminism; and/or an unwillingness to shine a light into their own prejudices and biases, then it’s very easy to go off the rails. 
so as to your question, i did not think any of the sana seasons lived up to their potential. yes, there were definitely aspects of each season (yes, even skam italia and skam france 😅) that i enjoyed, but overall, they were all such messes. if i *HAD* to choose, i would push druck’s amira m. season *oh so slightly” above the rest, only because it had the most plausible storyline out of all the seasons for how a yousana would make it work in the future, when one partner is not as believing as the other. 
and i know i criticize the sana seasons all the time 😁, but let me mention some positives across the remakes:
druck: 
amira m. and mohammed have such great chemistry. that mohammed stood guard outside a stockroom for amira, and we got the one remake in which a sana did not have her prayer interrupted is worth praise!
no unnecessary girl squad drama or cyberbullying/email account hacking storylines (but hello, kiki personality transplant to get there!)
skam españa
las labass - i love these girls with my whole heart. the inclusion of a group of muslim girlfriends is basically what every sana season has been lacking and opens the door to show the similarities, differences, and other nuances that exist among muslims.
naybet family - eskam avoided the stereotypical muslim parents trope and instead gave us two of the most wonderful, caring, and open-minded parents to grace the show.
skam OG:
sana’s vulnerability and isolation - cyberbullying/email account hacking storylines aside, i really felt all the emotions within sana just waiting to burst out throughout the season.
yousana! okay, so i don’t know what the future holds for them as we really didn’t get much insight into how sana would reconcile it all, but...their playful banter and chemistry was fantastic! 
skam france:
the bakhellals! - i loved imane’s relationship with her parents and idriss. honestly, the season should have just focused on this group of 4. 
imane telling off ingrid - only the first part of that scene 😁
skam italia:
sana and malik have cute chemistry. 
if you’re interested in more criticisms, i put more in this post (pre Eskam though!)
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lightsandlostbells · 5 years
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Druck season 2, episode 1 reaction
we’re baaaaaack
I said I would finish my Skam S3 analyses before I caught up on the remake reactions, and I’m working on the one for 3.10 (the finale), but I also didn’t want to fall behind on another show. So here are some thoughts on Druck’s first week back!
Episode 1
Clip 1 - “Their tongues battled for dominance”
It’s the moment we’ve been waiting for, Druck has come back from the war. And our very first shot is an extreme closeup of some very tongue-oriented kissing, thanks for that. 
Is it Matteo and a girl?
WAIT IS THAT KIKI AND ALEXANDER
HOLY SHIT
I definitely feel like Druck was playing with Skam fans’ expectations here. They know we’re expecting a kiss to open the season, but we’re expecting it to be Matteo and some girl, so Alex and Kiki throws us off. We’re also expecting Alex and Kiki to be completely over by now, not hooking up again - that changes the direction of the season, for sure.
I don’t know how much Mia’s issues will reflect Noora’s, but considering that Noora’s season opens with scandalous sex pics/media, and that it ties into not just what happens with Niko but Noora’s overall issues about sex that are threaded throughout the season, it’s kinda interesting to open with this sloppy kiss for Mia’s season, if she has similar hangups.
The lyrics of the song are on point: 
You're a poison and I know that is the truth All my friends think you're vicious And they say you're suspicious
The other girls watch in horror and befuddlement, like the OG girl squad did with Isak. HI, GIRLS! Lovely to see you again. Sam is the only one who seems not entirely appalled by this coupling.
FUCK FUCK FUCK, Alex drives off in his car with Kiki. Kiki is so eager, staring at him with such wonder. It really makes you feel bad for her, when this dude was such a jerk to her previously! He apologized but he still acted like that! And now she’s back with him. Not great.
I guess this is an unpopular opinion, from what I can tell, but … I like Kiki. Not necessarily as a human being, I completely understand why people find her the least tolerable, meanest Vilde, but something about her character just feels real to me. Like this is a version of Vilde I completely buy as a person I’d meet in real life. Hell, she does remind me of people I’ve met in the past.
Lmao, the camera swivels between each girl, I guess to emphasize the confusion/bafflement in the group. Mia does not get what Kiki sees in him. Amira’s like, he’s hot. Sam’s like, what’s wrong, they’re finally together! Sam, my beautiful girl, they weren’t a sitcom couple. This wasn’t the will-they won’t-they flirtation of the century. They did, and it was a disaster. 
Mia says they’re not a couple, Sam is like … but they spend every night together? This is kind of adorable coming from her, tbh.
Amira points out that Sam spends every night with her camel and Sam’s points out that they’re together! Lmao, I love this bit of continuity. Shout-out to Carmen! 
Mia thinks Alex will drop Kiki once he finds another girl. Well, he probably will, it’ll just be Mia. Amira says, pfft, that’s all western relationships. Mia is like … do you want us all to become lesbians? Mia, there is a segment of your audience who would be completely OK with that.
Mia and Hanna air kiss and I know it’s not gonna happen but by God I wish it would. I’m so apprehensive about how they’ll handle Mia’s sexuality this season, with her smooching Hanna last season to get Axel off her back, but also her being bi via word of God.
Amira says she has to go to prayer. Mia asks whether Amira was just there? Amira says no and leaves. So maybe Amira is doing something else and keeping a secret from the girls? I guess one other possibility is that Mia (a non-Muslim) doesn’t realize how much Muslims are supposed to pray, but I think the first is more likely from a story perspective. Anyway, it’s small but I like little nods to Amira’s religion, things like her mentioning going to pray so it feels like it’s more integrated into her character. 
Sam asks the girls to swing their legs and it’s super cute. It was also an IG story she made, so that’s a nice inclusion. It’s cool when they tie in the clips to actual social media posts (much like how Matteo posted a video of Hanna and Jonas last season that seemed to be taken within the clip itself).
People got seriously fucking mad with this clip, lmao, but honestly, it’s such a big departure from the original that I wasn’t pissed. There’s too much we need to know about how the Kiki/Alexander relationship will play out in the long run before I get angry at what’s happening.
In the credits after the clip, we see a pillow fight scene with the girls. I’m gonna guess that’s maybe a snippet from the Easter cabin episode (or whatever’s taking place of the cabin episode). I wonder if we also got a slumber party scene as a makeup for not getting the full girls’ sleepover in S1? It was just Mia and Kiki.
Clip 2 - Santa Claus is coming
Mia observes their toilet at home at German Kollektivet. It is gross. There’s pee all over the seat, what even looks like a curly hair??? I want to puke. I take it back, I’ll watch Kiki’s and Alex’s tongues for an hour if Druck never shows me anything like this toilet again.
Mia angrily stomps over to the bedroom of German Eskild (Hans) and bangs on the door. German Linn comes up to her, saying Hans has a visitor. Mia explains that Hans peed all over the toilet seat, Linn asks if she should clean it up. Mia says if they always do it for him, he’ll never learn. This is a small moment and not necessarily like, groundbreaking feminist commentary, but it’s why I have some faith in Druck for this season? Mia is adamantly against women cleaning up men’s messes (literally and certainly figuratively). I’m not saying she’s a perfect feminist, but she actually seems like a believable feminist teenage girl, with a lot of feminist principles that seem integrated into her life, which not all of the remakes have captured, imo.
Mia bangs on the door, Hans doesn’t open it, so eventually she does and of course Hans is getting his dick sucked. He’s wearing a Santa hat. There are so many directions you could take this joke that I can’t settle on anything, sorry. 
I will say that I’m pretty sure there are multiple shitty Christmas slasher movies where the killer is driven to hack people up because they spied someone in a Santa costume having sex, and that scarred them for life or whatever, so Hans better watch his back. And clean up the toilet from now on.
Hans makes excuses for his wayward urine, Mia asks him to clean it up. Hans is like, tomorrow! Hans, people are probably going to use the toilet between now and tomorrow. It is not going to take you long to do the bare minimum and spray down some cleaner and then wipe it off.
Uhhhh the other dude who’s putting on his Santa jacket seems kinda cute. Good job, Hans? Except apparently the guy, Michi, is boring and talks too much about Trump, Nazis, refugees, etc. So bringing in those aspects of S2 a little early, which is nice and topical. (But lol @ Mia and Hans talking about how boring this guy is when the door is still open a crack.)
Mia asks why Hans meets with him then, and Hans says it’s because Mia is always in school and who knows what Linn is doing? He was lonely. And by lonely, let’s be real, he means horny. Something neither Mia nor Linn can satisfy for him.
Hans compares Michi to a boomerang: you throw him away but he always comes back. Mia is appalled by this. You all suck! Not “you all” as in gay people, “you all” as in men. Hans is like … well, you’ve got me there! 
I liked that already, this scene ties into the plot thematically. Hans is basically doing the same as Alex, or at least what Mia thinks is happening with Alex. Hans is using Michi for hookups, Alex is using Kiki. Throwing her away, but like a boomerang, she comes back. Mia thinks what Amira said earlier about relationships is right. Guys are awful.
Hans didn’t make the best first impression here, with comparing Michi to a boomerang, and being dismissive of serious political issues, but I mean, this is only his first scene, and it’s not like Eskild’s first appearance revealed too much about him except that he thought Disney was a good fellatio soundtrack.
Clip 3 - Hello, Jotteo
Hanna and Mia walk to school. Mia says that her parents decided to go to Berlin without telling her, and they got into a fight. Her relationship with them is a nonstop cycle of arguing, basically. So Mia is going to do nothing for Christmas, basically, just stay at home and read - which sounds nice, personally, but also probably not that nice when it’s because you’re estranged from your family and have nowhere to go. Hanna is like, not on my watch! She invites Hanna to Christmas Eve with her and her dad. Yay, Hanna’s dad! I liked that guy, I hope we get to see him again.
Jonas and Matteo show up! Interesting because obviously Mia didn’t escape to Hanna’s yesterday to see Hanna and Jonas all snuggled up watching TV and talking about dating (like Noora did).
Hanna and Jonas seem a little awkward together. MY BABES. You still love each other!
Also, these are some fucking stoners, man. Are they high already? It’s like 8 in the morning. School hasn’t even started. They’re like, we have to go take a biology test! They’re laughing like this is the funniest shit ever. 
Mia asks if Hanna has talked with him lately. Hanna is like, “Jonas?” at first, and I can’t wait to hear how that relationship is going (or not going) but Mia meant Matteo. Hanna has no idea how she’d bring up that they found porn on Matteos’ phone and that they think he’s crushing on Jonas. Mia is like, just drop in a subtle hint, like asking if he watches Queer Eye! Lmao, Mia, have you seen Matteo’s hair and wardrobe? Bless him, because I love this messy, perpetually stoned version of Isak, but if he’s watching Queer Eye he’s sure as fuck not taking inspiration from it.
Hanna says she and Matteo don’t have much contact lately, because of Jonas. It’s not working out just being friends and he doesn’t seem willing to give as much on his end. Mia asks if Jonas has a new girlfriend, Hanna says no, that they promised to tell each other when that happens. Something tells me that isn’t going to go so smoothly this season. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jonas gets a girlfriend but Hanna doesn’t hear about it from him. I mean, Eva didn’t hear about Jonas being with another girl straight from him, and they were on much better terms than Hanna and Jonas (superficially, at least).
Mia seems doubtful, too. I’m sure her current “Men are the worst” attitude isn’t making her more optimistic.
Clip 4 - Mia vs. Alex in class
Mia is in class. Kiki’s sitting next to her; Alexander is on the opposite side of the room; because he got held back, they’re in the same grade. Mia looks to him. I will note that Alexander does a kind of laugh to himself before he looks up, so maybe he sensed that Mia was scoping him out?
Mia, who is looking very pretty by the way, pulls up her shirt so it’s not baring her shoulders so much. I vastly appreciate that they did this part differently than in the original! In that one, William texts Noora that she looks good in the shirt, causing her to put on a jacket - it’s his direct advances and comment making her uncomfortable. In this scene, Alexander is just looking at her - which might make her uncomfortable but at least he wasn’t doing it in an overly lascivious way. 
We also see him respond to that, and it’s hard to tell because he doesn’t avert his eyes totally or anything, but he doesn’t completely keep staring at her.
Like in Skam, their teacher is filmed below the neck, although this guy’s nipples aren’t the main attraction. Rather, it’s his festive reindeer sweater that draws the eye. (NGL, this gives me an idea for one of the S3 remakes where instead of checking out the female teacher’s boobs, the Isak is like … staring at his male teacher’s nips poking through a polo shirt or whatever.)
This is like a history/social studies class and the teacher has been talking about institutional oppression. He asks for comparisons between apartheid in South Africa and the Third Reich.
A girl is like, why can’t we talk about something relevant like Syria? Lmao, random girl, of course it’s important to talk about Syria, but what’s this insinuation that it’s not relevant to talk about past atrocities? This is part of why we study history, to draw comparisons between the past and present. Not to mention the repercussions of those periods are still felt today.
Mia and Alex’s argument about Israel being an apartheid state is more in line with how I think Noorhelm was meant to be, with the two of them having debates and William challenging Noora’s opinion. However, it never really worked for me because I felt these arguments leaned too heavily on not just like ... intellectual debate for the spirit of it, but Noora objecting to something William had done, and then William trying to argue why it was actually OK. There weren’t many debates about stuff unrelated to their relationship and William’s behavior, not much verbal and mental sparring for the pleasure of it. So maybe this isn’t an enjoyable debate, per se, but it’s at least a heated one between two parties with different strong POVs, on something besides trying to justify one’s own behavior.
When Alex quotes David Ben-Gurion, Mia says there’s a difference between a German saying that Israel is an apartheid state and an Israeli saying so. Alex is like, nah. Mia asks, so there’s no difference when I insult your sister and when you do? He seems to get a touch more serious and says while emotionally there’s a difference, practically there isn’t. No one should insult his sister.
People were reading very literally into this comment, that she’s aware of his sister, but I think she’s just presenting a hypothetical scenario as an analogy. It’s not that she actually knows he has/had a sister. It’s that her hypothetical scenario happens to have more baggage attached to it than she realizes. Assuming that Alex maybe has a dead sister, this is actually a very good moment! It makes sense why he’d get more emotional over her at this mention, like it struck a nerve even if it’s not what Mia really meant.
The teacher is like, thanks for your contribution, it totally misses the point! Lmao, between that comment and the reindeer sweater, I like this guy.
Behind Mia, Kiki seemed pretty into Alex’s talk, by the way.
As the class packs up, Mia says Alex is a dick, Kiki says he’s not and that Mia doesn’t even know him. He’s insecure and just wants his parents’ attention. Mia is like, lol, didn’t know he was sensitive and vulnerable. She says it like a joke, but Kiki takes it seriously and says it’s all a front.
Mia asks why Alex is repeating his grade, Kiki says he didn’t want to talk about it. INTERESTING. I know from a Doylist perspective, this is so they can keep Alex on the show rather than him graduating, but I really hope they integrate it into his characterization. But he also said it’s none of Kiki’s business so like, he’s still an asshole. Mia agrees with me. He doesn’t have to tell her but don’t be a shithead about it.
Alex accompanies Kiki out of the classroom and gives her his hand, but appears to shoot Mia a look as he leaves.
Clip 5 - Kiki’s a vegan
Mia rides her bike in the morning and passes Kiki on the street. They have class now, but Kiki still needs to go home and shower. Mia is surprised because they’re pretty far from Kiki’s house, meaning Kiki has to run even more. However, Kiki seems pleased about how much she’s run.
Mia invites Kiki to go shopping with her and Hanna, and Kiki wants to go somewhere with vegan croissants. Mia is surprised by Kiki suddenly being a vegan. Kiki explains that she saw a documentary - not about factory farming, but about how healthy it is. Although then she adds she thinks factory farming is bad when she sees Mia isn’t pleased - that’s a nice touch because Kiki seems like she thought Mia was judging her for not being politically aware enough, and that Mia’s going to go on an activist diatribe or something, when Mia is really concerned because of Kiki’s extreme workout and diet.
Mia clarifies that she thinks veganism is great, it’s just that Kiki is working out so much as well as becoming a vegan. She said they talked about it and Kiki needs to be careful about this stuff. Kiki says she doesn’t see the problem with eating healthy and doing sports.
I like that moment because it’s kind of toeing the line, like … well, what is wrong with working out and eating healthy? And Mia can’t quite object to that in itself. On the surface, Kiki is making it sound reasonable. It’s just that we know more is going on with her than simply adopting healthy lifestyle habits. She’s taking it way too far.
Clip 6 - Mia vs. Alex, take two
Mia sees Axel in school and confronts him, saying they need to talk. He doesn’t seem that into it. When she asks him what he’s doing with Kiki, he plays dumb, she tells him that she’s going to get her hopes up for something serious. Alex is all, define serious. He says that he’s hanging out with Kiki and no one else, so what else is he supposed to do, propose to her?
If he’s explained to Kiki that this is a FWB thing, then honestly, it’ll be on Kiki not to hope for something more serious. It’s certainly not the best course of action for him because of how he behaved last season, and he should know by now that Kiki will probably take it too seriously. However, if he’s made his stance clear to Kiki that this isn’t a serious relationship, then it’s on Kiki to listen to that.
I like that her posture seems more stiff and ramrod straight, and he’s leaning against the railing, relaxed. She’s on guard and trying to make a point to, he’s not threatened by what she’s saying.
He says “If I didn’t know you were a lesbian, I’d think you were jealous,” and arrrrgh. Best case scenario, this at least suggests he has been backing off Mia because he thinks she’s a lesbian and not approaching her, and he respects that. However, I don’t think he buys that she’s really a lesbian (and this is confirmed by the end of the episode) so it comes across like a taunt instead. “If I didn’t know you were a lesbian” is him being ironic because he doesn’t believe her.
Mia says if he hurts Kiki, she’ll kill him. She walks away and Alex seems more amused than anything. He better take her seriously, she’s seen Santa getting a blowjob so the desire to kill should be setting in any moment.
Clip 7 - Gym class
Mia and Hanna are in gym class. They’re on the bleachers. They are both faking having their periods because they hate volleyball and PE. I can respect the fuck out of that. Jonas is playing volleyball, and he and Hanna are having some awkward eye contact.
Hanna mentions that Kiki is a vegan now. She doesn’t get how one can go without meat, but Mia has more serious concerns about Kiki’s sudden veganism.
The girls talk about Alexander and whether he’s doing this thing with Kiki as a tactic to make Mia jealous. God, I hope not. I hope he legit thinks she’s unavailable and is trying to move on or something. Because even taking the end of the episode into consideration, he wasn’t pursuing Mia on his own. He wasn’t texting her, calling her, starting conversations with her outside of class, and it was when Mia kept initiating contact and pushing him that he said he’d break up with Kiki if Mia went on a date with him. I’m not excusing him for that, but best case scenario, he was doing this thing with Kiki without the end goal of exchanging her for Mia.
The ball flies at Hanna, Jonas comes to pick it up and says sorry. I truly hope that was an accident, because otherwise, dick move. Anyway, another little beat of awkwardness between the two.
Clip 8 - Christmas party 
Party time! Linn sits on the couch, appropriately. She’s wearing a Santa hat, so she’s a little bit festive, at least?
The girls bake cookies, Hans seems to be making drinks. When Mia goes to the fridge, we get a nice glimpse of her, Hans, and Linn in some photo booth pics, awww.
Amira recreates the Salt Bae meme, which is fucking adorable, I love her.
Mia is a very pretty girl but I have to say that the styling is suiting her even more this season, and this is a really great look for her.
Kiki checks her phone. As we know from the social media, she had something planned with Alex. She’s sent some texts to him, but he’s ignoring her. Though I wonder if they actually had something planned, or if Kiki just assumed they did.
The doorbell rings and it’s Jonas, Matteo, and Carlos! I think they’re integrating the boy squad more into this season because they know fans love Jonas and Matteo, but that’s hardly something I’ll complain about. I live for more combined girl/boy squad content.
Hanna doesn’t seem totally OK with Jonas appearing - not like, shook to her core, but that she’s a little ruffled.
Carlos greets Kiki and says she looks good tonight and I don’t want to pair up any random boy and girl who interact, but if it will get her off Alex, then by all means, deliver us German Magnus/Vilde.
Mia asks Hans if he invited Michi (the guy from the BJ Santa clip) and he says no. Michi isn’t the kind of guy you date, he’s the guy you get to rim you. Well ... thanks for letting us know!
But it’s kinda interesting to me, because Hans is pretty dismissive and not complimentary of this guy, but at the same time… it’s his choice to just hook up with him and not go for anything serious. Mia seems like she’s meddling or judging a bit, disapproving of Hans doing this. I wonder if it’ll come into play later and if Hans will get as tired of Mia’s meddling as Kiki does. Still, it’s a nice parallel to her interfering with Kiki’s affairs, too.
This is a small, cute Christmas party, I dig it. The squads dance to All I Want For Christmas, the girls hug, it’s cute. Matteo sits at the table drinking, awww. Get up and dance, dude!
I wonder if Matteo not dancing is part of him checking himself not to be ~too gay? Or maybe he’s not in the mood because he’s been going through shit at home? Or he’s too drunk to get up? There are a lot of references to him drinking and getting stoned this season, and I mean, that’s not a great thing for him, but it’s a very interesting development in terms of what it will mean for his arc. 
Hans and Matteo have met now! Maybe they didn’t talk much, but they were in the same room!
WHO WAS TOUCHING MATTEO’S HEAD, I CAN’T TELL
Matteo and Kiki share a moment where she’s singing to All I Want For Christmas at him and he’s just at the table. Are they actual friends or something? Elaborate, please!
Everyone’s having a good time until Hans suddenly cuts the music, then they’re angered. How dare he cut off Mariah!
Hans announces they’re going to the club and goes into the bathroom to take party drugs. He says he’s going to pee, but the others are aware he’s taking drugs. Matteo mentions that Hans said he partied last week and it took him 72 hours to notice that he didn’t eat anything. Oh no, Kiki’s going to latch onto that. Mia seems wary.
Later, after the party’s over, Mia is cleaning up when the doorbell rings. Kiki comes back in. She’s going to party with Hans and Sam. Cotton pads fall out of her purse. Wait, Kiki is eating them??? Uh-oh.
Mia asks her not to take drugs, she saw how Kiki reacted when they were talking about Hans. Kiki gets mad and asks why she doesn’t get on Hans’ case. Mia says it’s because Hans doesn’t eat cotton pads as a snack. Kiki gets very upset. Mia wants to know if this is because of Alexander.
Truthfully, I don’t think dating Alexander helps, necessarily, since Kiki will feel like she needs to be at her best to hold Alex’s attention, and if he’s not 100% interested in her, she’ll find the faults in herself rather than him. It doesn’t help that he’s already told her she’s not worth it, and even though he apologized, she might still feel the memory of that. But this problem with Kiki goes well beyond her dating Alexander. I’m not absolving him of everything, obviously, but I think she’d be engaging in these behaviors regardless of what he thought, even if it’s for his approval. Mia is using Alexander as a scapegoat here for a much broader issue with Kiki. Like I have no doubt that these problems originated before Alex.
Kiki yells at Mia to stop interfering in her life and that she’s obsessed. I’m really interested in what Druck is doing with these two, because there are two sides to this. I think when it comes to Kiki’s eating disorder, while Mia ultimately can’t control what Kiki does, she’s not wrong to mention her concerns. This is one situation where your friend’s health and physical well-being are at stake. Mia has likely been where Kiki has and recognizes the signs. When it comes to Alexander … Mia probably should back off by now. She’s made her case, she’s stated her concerns. Kiki is making her own choices with who she’s hooking up with. They may not be great choices but they’re Kiki’s to make. But mixing the two sides is that Mia thinks the relationship with Alex is exacerbating Kiki’s eating disorder, so Kiki’s romantic life is entangled with her health. 
Mia lies in bed later. She goes through her text messages, first Hans, then Axel. If you look closely, you’ll notice that she sent something to him about the David Ben-Gurion quote being misattributed, which means they kept up the debate outside the classroom. Mia, I know you want to win the debate, but contacting Axel again to make your point isn’t going to convince him that you don’t care about him.
Mia texts Axel to leave Kiki alone. Again, this is messy because I think this is probably crossing the line, Mia’s said her piece already, and this is Kiki’s life. I’m glad they’ve emphasize that Mia thinks this situation is making Kiki’s eating disorder worse, though, because that is a very serious problem and if Mia thinks Alex is making it worse, then it’s easy to understand why she would keep intervening.
Mia is texting something like “Do you want to ...” before Axel writes back, and I’d be really interested to know what she was going to say. 
Aaaand Alex wrecks a lot of the good will we wanted to give him by telling Mia he’ll break up with her if she goes out with him and admits she made up all the lesbian stuff. Ugh. So he’s a) willing to break up with Kiki and hurt her just to get with Mia b) putting pressure on Mia dating him c) not taking her being a lesbian seriously which is sadly a common attitude among straight dudes. Obviously lesbians can’t be real, it’s impossible for women not to want me men! Even if he thinks she made it up about her sexuality, he should fucking leave it at that. I mean, she made it up for a reason and that reason is that she doesn’t want to date him, take a hint. Whatever Mia’s flaws have been in this whole situation, that doesn’t let Alex off the hook, either.
We close on Mia from above in her bed, with some distance. I like that, it makes her seem smaller and less in control of what she feels she has to do.
General Comments/Social Media
I’m really happy to see this show back! So far this was a promising start; I think they’re working on some of the production issues of last season and listening to the fans, so that’s encouraging.
This week there was a TON of effort put into the social media, with many IG posts and stories and multiple text messages. There were also clips every day, sometimes more than one. This was a really smart choice, because the constant flow of content grabbed people’s attention - remember that one week in S1 where the show took an unexpected hiatus and people wondered if Druck had been cancelled mid-season? Not great for holding viewers’ interest. I very much hope they can keep up the steady roll of content - personally I would not be surprised if they tone it down a little after this week, and the large amount of content this week was to drum up hype for the show, but I hope we can keep it at higher levels than last season.
However, the constant content and the increased promotion seem to have worked, because the amount of views per clip and subscriptions to Druck’s channel have increased quite a bit! A lot of the clips seem to have as many or more views as clips from S1, which have been out for months. At the beginning of the week there was something like 63,000 subscribers to the channel, I think? As of writing this, they have almost 100,000. They gained more than 35,000 subscribers in a week. That’s incredible! I also noticed several of the clips and episodes were trending by the time I watched them, so that’s got to help attract new viewers. When there are new clips out frequently, they can keep trending, which will grab the attention of new fans. I poked through the comments and there seemed to be a LOT of people who are not existing Skam fans, but German viewers discovering Druck for the first time, which is amazing.
I realize it’ll be very messy with the timeline, but I hope that we can squeeze in at least one more season of this show, hopefully two so we can get both Amira and Matteo seasons. If the momentum keeps up, it’ll be a huge shame to end the show when it’s doing so well. Don’t pull a Julie Andem, Pola Beck. (Lmao, I’m willing to drop realism and pretend this is like Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Veronica Mars when they graduated high school after 2-3 seasons and then all happened to go to the same university.)
About Mia being a lesbian or bisexual, or having a romance with a girl - as much as I would love for this to happen, I’m not going to get my hopes up. I don’t want to be disappointed. What I do hope is that the stuff with Mia isn’t queerbaiting - I really hope that she isn’t straight. I get that she’s probably not going to be a lesbian and that she’ll likely end up with Alex, because otherwise it would be an enormous diversion from the source material, one that would not go over well with a big part of the fanbase that loves Noorhelm and is looking forward to seeing that story again. But let her be bi, at least. I get that it’s a pipe dream to hope for Mia/Hanna or Mia/Kiki, but let the f/f content be stronger than it was in S2 of Skam. Make it better than just drunken makeouts between ostensibly straight girls.
The thing is, I do understand if they have her get together with Alex. However you might feel about it personally, Noorhelm is a popular ship (S3 was the biggest internationally but I know S2 was huge in Norway) and there will be tons of people looking forward to it. So really, I’m not expecting them to throw out that relationship and the Mia/Alex endgame. Later in the season, I might change my mind. But right now, while I’m expecting some of the story details to change (as they already have), I’m not going to predict a radical overhaul of S2. I think I’ll be more disappointed if I expect them to reinvent this story so dramatically and they don’t. And if they do? I can be pleasantly surprised.
There’s going to be a fuck ton of drama this season in the fandom - hell, there already is - because Noorhelm is already polarizing, and we’ll be seeing people who still want this ship to succeed and people who don’t. But I do want to point out one thing: a huge amount of people, until the final clip, were being positive about Alex and Mia/Alex’s potential, pointing out ways they preferred Alex’s behavior to William’s. This included people who straight-up hated Noorhelm. I think this says a lot, that many people are willing to get on board with the pairing if it gets rid of the stuff they disliked about the original S2. Of course many others are never going to like this storyline, and many people who had high hopes then dropped them after Alex’s text message to Mia. We’ll see how fandom attitudes change or stay the same over the season.
I like how they’re characterizing Mia this season. They seem to have a clear idea of her motivations, they’re giving her flaws that seem naturally integrated into her character. One of the best ways to create a character, imo, is to think of their flaws and their strengths not as existing on completely separate spheres, but as personality traits existing together that have both positive and negative qualities. For instance, Mia is kind and protective of her friends, overall a positive trait, but that leads her to interfere with their lives, which can be a negative trait.
There were a ton of IG posts and text messages, both this week and before the season even started. I might have missed something - I didn’t expect Druck to hit me so hard with SM content, lmao.
One pre-season text had Hanna wanting to meet up with Jonas, and he initially agreed, but then when she asked for details he didn’t reply, and on the day of, he suddenly couldn’t meet. Oh, kids. This is such a different dynamic from Eva and Jonas in their S2, when they appeared to be on friendly terms and were hanging out together, totally platonic, nothing to see here!!! Unfortunately, Hanna and Jonas still have some friction.
There was a really excellent text message prior to the start of the season, about the girls meeting with college/career advisers at school. It did the double duty of both telling us about the girls’ aspirations and dreams for when they graduate, as well as exposing various difficulties and societal inequalities that they face. For instance, Kiki wants to go to university because no one in her family has done so before, but the adviser tried to talk her into some apprenticeships. Amira jokes that it’s because the adviser saw Kiki’s grades, but that also sees like an issue of classism - Kiki expresses interest in university but the adviser discourages her, possibly based on her background and not coming from a family that went to university. Sam wants to study fashion design and the adviser said that goal fits, presumably due to her personal style. With Amira we see blatant racism in the system, as she wants to become a chancellor, but the adviser laughs and singles out her hijab as a reason why she’ll find it difficult. Hanna was told to do better in school, continuing her academic struggles from her season (the Evas have never been great students). Mia, on the other hand, is told she could be anything. And true, I think Mia’s supposed to be a good student, but note the disparity in that a young white girl is told her future is full of limitless possibilities, whereas Amira (who I’m pretty sure is also a good student) is told how she’ll struggle to achieve her dreams.
I think that sort of sets up some of the tension to a degree with Mia’s character. I’m not sure how much we’ll go into this, but Mia (and the Nooras) have frequently been like the golden girl of Skam. Like I agree that S4 made a lot of mistakes in giving Noora too much importance at the expense of Sana, but I also think there was an awareness that Noora was perceived so differently than Sana even though in many ways they were similar, because of racism, and how Sana knew this and was hurt by it (it was just that S4 was a weird mishmash of knowing this and portraying it critically, and indulging in Noora’s greatness and playing it straight). So we could have that with Mia and Amira at some point. But also, I think this is a big issue with Mia and Kiki (and Noora and Vilde). Because we saw Vilde basically have to deal with Noora being seen as a “better” version of her. For example, Vilde planned to tell off William and have that as her big moment; but William tore her down and Vilde ran off in distress, and it was Noora who stepped up to roast him and put him in his place. What Noora did was great but it snatched Vilde’s moment. Noora is pretty and skinny, she stuffs herself with pancakes and is model thin, something that Vilde aspires to be. Vilde has a crush on William and he uses her and throws her away; Noora gets William’s attention and she doesn’t even want it, then ends up in a serious relationship with him as William decides Noora is the girl worthy of his loyalty. We saw a lot of this play out with Mia and Kiki already in S1. Now in S2, the tension between the two is going even harder than with Noora and Vilde. Vilde never snapped at Noora the way Kiki does in this episode. Honestly out of everything, I think I’m most interested in seeing how that relationship develops over the season. Remember that Mia is the only one who was there to help Kiki with her pregnancy scare last season, so now they’ve got this other big situation and secret between them.
Girl Sam invited one of the boys to the Christmas party, but it’s not clear from the texts which of them it was. I’m pretty sure it was Jonas since he says Sam invited them in the clip, but still, that’s one downside of Druck’s text system, we can’t always tell who the conversations are between. Although on the other hand, I do think there are instances where that ambiguity could add some suspense and mystery. (She greets mystery boy as “Hi bitch!” which is pretty funny and suggests they are on reasonably friendly terms.)
I wonder if Sam invited the boys on behalf of Hanna? Then Jonas would have an excuse to hang around Hanna without the pressure of it being one-on-one, or seeming too much like a date/like they were back together. And he might respond more positively to a “neutral” party like Sam rather than Hanna, with all their history. 
By the way, Hanna had a pic of her and Jonas before the season started that’s like “When lovers become friends!” and she looks significantly happier about it than he does.
Carlos (the Elias from S1) got an IG and his name (car_lospolloshermanos) is a Breaking Bad reference. I remember him as being fairly decent and not too shitty in S1, so it’d be nice to see him as a member of German boy squad.
Kiki posts a pic of her healthy vegan meal and Matteo responded by posting his currywurst. Lmao, so they’re friendly enough that they can have this banter???
Matteo posts a bunch of memes on his IG. How Isak of him.
Amira had some utterly beautiful pics of her summer where she’s riding a camel and visiting the pyramids in Egypt.
There were so many Christmas party pics and videos! I loved the effort put into it. The kids were adorable.and the activity made it feel more like an actual party.
We’ve had Skam and the remakes take place on holidays, but never on Christmas, so I’m quite excited to see what Druck gives us! Even if it’s just Mia, Hanna, and Hanna’s dad chilling out, that’ll be good enough for me. Plus, we should get New Year’s too - what if we get a clip that drops around midnight on New Year’s Eve?
If you got this far, thank you for reading!
I’m not German, so if I missed any language or cultural context, feel free to let me know!
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smileykeijser · 5 years
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tbh with this imaan thing going on, itll be good if they actually wrote in a reason for imaan not being there and if they want to, they can slowly introduce another muslim girl into the girl gang! i, as a muslim girl, really dont mind them doing so but im not the spokesperson for every muslim fan out there but uno
Hello lovely, it’s good to hear from someone who’s Muslim on this topic.
I think it’ll be very interesting to see what they do. I still think there’s a strong possibility that Melisa is Linn and there isn’t another girl squad member who’s going to be added, but I hope I’m wrong.
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norgestan · 4 years
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Perhaps it symbolizes her growth and healing process?
i'm more concerned for what it means in the context of og s4 AND how eskam s3 handled the white/black color theory. in og s4 there was a pretty big theme about black (sana) vs white (pepsi max girls, isak and even, the girl squad, even yousef and elias at times) but it was like even more apparent with noora
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i couldn't tell you what their actual intention behind all of that was because it would require more thinking than i'm allowing myself to do (rip me, i'm still in my finals), but if anyone wants to step up and delve into that PLEASE do and thank you!!! but the basic premise here is a subversion of the white=good black=bad perception, with our protagonist (black) as an "outsider" from norwegian society and culture (white). and with noora it was even more because of the *retches* love triangle with yousef, and then sana going behind her back to contact william so she could leave yousef alone. there's also that point that the pepsi max girls make in the bathroom scene in episode 5, where they insult sana for being muslim while talking about how cool noora is or whatever lol (yeah i'm not in my best form at the moment 💔)
and i don't think skames necessarily went back to the roots of what skam tried to subvert in s4? because it wasn't like when people wore white they were good and when they wore black they were bad. but i do think the whole concept was... messily used to say the least. it was never clear to me if the show used the black and white rhetoric to make a point on how nora saw the world and people around her, or if it was to warn/spoil the audience about the true intentions of x and y character. because they kinda did both?
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like, is this scene where alejandro apologizes and is wearing black over white meant to be interpreted as, alejandro is sincere and nora should trust him but her judgement and narrow-mindness won't let her do so? yes.
so not only is the black and white thing is about how nora views people, BUT it's also how alejandro is white aka good in the inside. okay then.
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...but then it's miquel wearing all black when nora finally makes the choice to be with him. so the black and white thing is to show the audience that miquel is actually a bad guy?
or like, nora wearing black under white and miquel wearing black under grey when miquel violates nora's boundaries surrounding sex? like..... what is that supposed to mean for each character? because nora is wearing black, too. is she untrustworthy as well? we know she's not the bad guy here. so it's black used to show how miquel is influencing her .......????
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or when nora fights with miquel and emma lets her know that she shouldn't be making such a big fuss for something that is more likely not that bad? she's wearing black, so does that mean she views herself as the bad guy? .........so is it about nora's perception of herself and other people? yeah.. you get my point, the show never settled for one.
and this is a thing that really bothers me because it could've been a more tightly knitted concept that actually gave us inside to either nora's mind (god tier) or the reality or those characters (although it would've made no sense because the entire resolution is that hello, people are NOT black or white. they're grey and very layered and that's what nora learns at the end of the season). instead that it loses meaning when miquel is wearing black when he last meets her and alejandro is wearing white, as opposed as their respective introductions in the season. so... is the season about learning to read people in a very dichotomic way, but correctly? with white=good and black=bad?
do you see my problem? it should've been more well handled.
as for s4... idk if they'll incorporate that black and white theme but for amira. i think there are ways where that could be very smartly implemented and if they make amira and nora get closer then it's a nice method to show their differences and maybe start a conversation about how white people see the dichotomy versus poc (in nora, those who she trusts in wear white, and those who are good wear white. in amira's season that oughta be different right?). IF they do it.
and if they don't, then i'm just a clown and begoña just happened to think that nora would look cute in an all white look (and she absolutely does). but with og s4 in mind they could still be willing to do this and it worries me when 1) there's not going to be a love triangle between whoever sp!yousef is and nora..... right? and 2) nora and amira are not that close to begin with. there's a reason why the window scene happened with eva and not amira. so what role could nora possibly take in amira's season then? my bet is on the fact that nora's feminism could result in microaggressions for amira and her feminism, but then.... it's all just wait and see, at the end of it.
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bowieexaminprogress · 3 years
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Hello Bowie! I hope you're doing great!
Any news from set today? Do you know who was filming?
Thank you honey! I am doing great.
There was a closed set filming. Nora and Noa were spotted on set. So were members of the new Muslim girl squad.
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