given how sexually experienced / sexually confident women are potrayed in lore olympus, it would not suprise me if daphne was written in and characterized the way she is specifically as a response to criticism rachel as recieved.
minthe, thetis, and later leuce are all mature women with sexual experience. they're attractive and they're fully aware of it. they specifically try to appear sexy and desireable, and also have casual sex. coincidentally, they are all presented as shallow, jealous, homewrecking, rude at best and outright cruel at worst, delusional, deserving of scorn and ridicule, et cetera.
this is all in contrast to persephone. she is very young, sexually inexperienced, and her "purity" (both in a sexual sense and a general sense) is emphasized. for the vast majority of the comic's run, she expresses little to no sexual desire. she's incredibly attractive but she doesn't know it and definitely doesn't try to look sexy god forbid. instead, she is unwillingly and unknowingly sexualized by the people around her. she's incredibly naive. she's the poster child for the "born sexy yesterday" trope... and she's constantly faced with attempts to tear her down by the eeeevil promiscuous women who are simply jealous of her effortless pure beauty and how much more desirable she is. when persephone begins to show sexual desire or deliberately dress more provacatively, it's for one (1) man in the context of a monogamous relationship.
so im not saying this 100% is how it went but i could definitely see it happening that rachel smythe saw the (very justified) critique of the (very present) misogyny in her work, but instead of actually taking it to heart and perhaps reflecting on beliefs she may have internalized and how they make their way into her art, then improving herself, she writes daphne.
daphne is a woman who also is sexually experienced and confident, also is fully aware of how attractive she is, also makes a conscious effort to appear sexy and desireable, but she is not depicted as an evil homewrecking bitch. in fact, she coincidentally agrees with everything persephone says and sees nothing wrong with anything she does ever even when it is definitely cause for criticism (such as not seeing the clear favoritism at work as a big deal).
however, the inclusion of one (1) singular positive depiction of a sexually experienced and empowered woman doesn't change the ever present misogyny that permeates lore olympus. persephone's "purity", naivete, and inexperience are still romanticized to some extent. she's supposedly the most attractive goddess around, moreso than aphrodite, having been blessed with beauty twice et cetera... and also her body is eternally 19, sending the message that the height of beauty is a body that is just-barely-legal. minthe's "redemption arc", if one could call it that, is somewhat linked to her engaging in more "acceptable" feminine tasks, such as teaching (and, potentially, if it goes this way, becoming a mother). leuce was written after daphne, and while she's not expressly demonized as other characters, she is written as being stupid, delusional, et cetera.
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jack would be a stem kid because he loves doing experiments the scientific method is his best friend he loves being hands on and getting to be like I was wrong but the right answer is way cooler than I thought it would be and he loves the connections between art and science, like the way chemical reactions are responsible for why pottery glaze looks so cool and how talented at art you have to be to be good at any kind of diagramming or bio illustration
and davey would be a stem kid because people are more impressed by good grades in science and math classes than english classes so he works harder at them even though he really loves language more than numbers and when he ends up in a class with jack who seems to be goofing off all the time he's annoyed by how little work he seems to put in until he realizes actually jack is really smart but completely unaware of it because he thinks he's goofing off when he's actually running pretty well-designed experiments for fun (unsanctioned by the instructor) in between steps of the lab.
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i feel like the thing about trans people in sports is like. it's only this Big Deal To Discuss if your prime focus is on elite sport and people who make records etc. whereas if we focus on sport as something that we all should have access to, weird notions of 'advantage' shouldn't matter and are actually kinda ableist considering they imply the inverse, 'disadvantage' being relevant to community sport. when in fact we should all get a chance to play whatever sport we choose with people who are at a similar level to us in it. and that's literally all that's relevant for all but the highest achieving 0.00001% of athletes
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The thing about the painter analog that people don't get and makes them hate it is that at heart this isn't a serious horror story. This is pure gore not only for the sake of gore but for the sake of camp. Once I was talking of to my dad laughing at the guy who had his face sanded off and he was like yeah not new they did that in Jason already 🙄 which was later reinforced by UrbanSpook admitting this is inspired by those old 80s slasher which should tell you everything.
I'm saying this bc i saw a video pairing it with Playground and the incest game and while I don't know the second I watched a video on playground once and the difference is that that book is trying to tell a story and say something on top of the gore but the later makes it hard to care. Which is kind of the issue another "gone too far" piece of media my beloved A Serbian Film runs into where you cannot take yourself too seriously if you also want to show over the top violence or you'll lose the audience.
OF COURSE there are exceptions like Hostel, Saw and 😏 the human centipede ☺️ (cocksucker for that movie and it's more serious points, though it barely counts bc the gore is very tame save for in 2) and I couldn't exactly tell you what's the difference between what makes them work and what doesn't but still.
But I'm getting off topic I'm not here to say which media is good or not I'm here to point out the painter is not a serious story that asks you to care for the characters it's a over the top schlocky gore that asks you to go GROOOOSS or laugh at the over the top brutality it presents. Which is very standard in horror.
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The juxtaposition: a lone Sorcerer walking towards the sacrificial altar through a crowd of Chaos cultists gathered in a dimly lit, soot- and blood-stained chamber, and their memory of the time they walked through a city in broad daylight, side by side with other healers, to provide aid to the sick and injured. The thread piecing these two images together: countless arms reaching out to to brush against them, to touch them, to grasp the cloth they wear, and disparate voices slowly amassing into a thundering chant announcing the arrival of the divine messenger.
In the memory, the senior healer asks his brothers to exercise restraint - no vocalization, minimal gesturing, timing the psychic action in line with administration of drugs or other conventional medical practices to not perpetuate superstition and set the ground for rationalizing their powers to the masses. They aren't angels, as the people outside call them. There are no angels in the gilded paradise they're building for mankind.
In the present, the Sorcerer enacts the ritual with sweeping, dramatic gestures, far more elaborate than they need to be. A perfectly memorized and rehearsed routine to impress the crowd, each step calculated to raise their spirits and invoke powerful emotion until they break out into religious ecstasy. They remain silent, but the cultists eagerly chant the prayers and curses in their stead. The paradise was built on the bones of those unjustly condemned, and their souls now rise as vengeful daemons.
And it's all an act, a theatrical mask, a stage performance. Whether they were alone or surrounded by their kin, they always wore a mask concealing their true face and true intent to the outsiders. A mask of the gilded, flat-faced helmet. A mask of the smooth, unadorned healer's veil. And beneath the mask there's nothing but emptiness, a sense of cold detachment, a dreamless sleep. A talented hand guided not by personal ideals, but orders from one's superiors. Someone else wrote the role they were cast as, and they memorized the script to the letter.
The wandering theater swapped hands and traveled far among the stars. The two worlds are ages and light years apart. Details have changed a thousand times over, but the intent of the play remained the same:
Use your miracles to make people obey the powers that control you.
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that thread i rbed like ages ago about men's urge to disagree/object to/obstruct women for no reason has seriously reset my brain its so crazy but i think actually one of the rare things that actually might represent a way forward for how men engage with women. like there's always going to be the rightwing ardent misogynists who don't care that they're doing this but for all the men in the middle that do on some level want to be better it represents 1. fairly confronting evidence that your position in the patriarchy actually affects how you relate to women much more than you realise it does even if you think of yourself as self-aware and 2. a genuine example of something that makes us all suffer because the fact you niggle on every single issue like what flavour of ice cream to buy is unhealthy for relationships (of any kind) AND introduces unnecessary amount of background strain to your life for no real gain.
maybe im being an idealist but i love the idea of a man experiencing a certain amount of horror upon recognition of this as a catalyst to other more meaningful recognitions and changes both in how he evaluates the competence of women but also in recognition of the subjectivity of he perceives things i.e i think one of the biggest barriers to confronting the housework gap is often that men don't SEE how much women are doing and also don't SEE things that need to be done, to the extent that ive seen men argue that the solution is just for women to not care about being surrounded by mess. anyway no conclusion but i cant stop thinking about that thread both super horrifyingand also kind of hopeful
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"This is about eating ass btw" ... im sorry WHAT
Ahdksjslsjjd okay so basically Fiona exposed Ify by saying that she met one of his former hook ups once and she said that, and I quote “he ate my ass in his Tesla”
Then when Alfredo and the rest of the panel laughed at him about it, Ify called Alfredo out for also talking about liking to eat ass.
Alfredo said that it’s not the same with him bc Ify could be talking about anyone, while Alfredo is in a committed relationship with Jackie.
So basically, Ify took a pic of him in his Tesla bc that’s where he ate ass, and Alfredo took a pic with Jackie because…. Well now you know
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