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Laurens THIS girlie is now MY girlie (shes pretty as heck)
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#founding fathers#colonial america#alexander hamilton#george washington#thomas jefferson#john paul jones#marquis de lafayette#lafayette#shitpost#john laurens#martha laurens#break from 1776 posts lmao
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Things to know:
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dear 18th century historical figures. please stop marrying marthas. please stop naming your daughters martha. there so many women named martha. i cant keep track of them all.
#amrev#martha washington#martha laurens#johns sister named martha#george washington's daughter named martha#martha jefferson#probably more#theres so many fucking marthas. its a nice name but not that nice !!#rain feathers ham
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laurens siblings chart (updated! :D)
i've been working on this for a couple of weeks now, and its finally here !! wanted to update the laurens kids chart i did 2(ish) years ago (old one here:) - this time im adding color and both kid/adult versions for the ones that reached adulthood as i tend to draw the majority of them as when they were children too :) hope yall enjoy it !!!🌷
(chronological order goes from top left to bottom, finishing with polly, who was the youngest of the siblings)
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small disclaimer just in case: this is not an historically accurate representation of the real laurens kids' physical appearances. there are only a few who were described or had portraits done, and even they can be inaccurate sometimes. take this sheet is mostly a reference for character consistency and to identify them on the drawings in my blog :] )
small disclaimer 2: the nickname "henri" for the first henry jr. is only to differentiate him from "harry" (the second henry jr.)- there is no historical evidence of this nickname being used for henry jr the first.
#john laurens#historical john laurens#laurens siblings#laurens family#henry laurens jr#james laurens#martha laurens#eleanor laurens jr#mary eleanor laurens#henry laurens jr. the first#laukids#my art#gonna add the link to the old chart as well just in case you wanna see it too !
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“At age eighteen, sister Patsy already knew John more deeply than he would ever know or understand her. Such a brother inspired and represented her own patriotism. Though she had to remain “retired” in the French countryside, utterly remote from urban news and war involvement, in her imagination she could follow at John's elbow and bask in thinking about his exciting part in the transatlantic drama. When Martha wrote of “boldness” in the “glory of the Lord,” and her battles against “floods of conflict” and “seas of tribulation,” she was figuratively aligning her inner self with her own family hero. Consciously, of course, her combative instincts were directed inward, onto her own battleground—the soul and her emerging selfhood.”
— The Life and Times of Martha Laurens Ramsay, 1759-1811, by Joanna Bowen Gillespie · 2001
#amrev#american history#historical john laurens#john laurens#martha laurens ramsay#martha laurens#patsy laurens#laurens family#laurens siblings#history#quotes#cicero's history lessons
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It has been in my mind for some time, so I had to draw Frances and Martha Laurens (JOHN'S SISTER) in the Mepkin Abbey short after John's funeral.
#john laurens#18th century#amrev#martha laurens#frances laurens#south carolina#amrev fandom#my art#stasia draws
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December 19, 1953
Sabina Elliott Ramsay Pinckney died in Charleston at the age of 60. Sabina was the daughter of David and Martha Laurens Ramsay, making her John’s niece. In an interesting twist, Sabina was the name of David’s first wife. Martha was his third and the only wife to bear his children.
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Second Best
New Martha Laurens fic <3 (read here)
Martha Laurens has spent her entire life trying to live up to a family name and reputation that feels larger than life at times.
It's tiring, maintaining a facade of perfection at every moment.
At least it is for her.
Her brother John seems to manage the pressure easily.
John has a good job, a nice house, a wife and a baby on the way.
But Martha knows better than anyone that a picture perfect family is rarely all that is seems.
#fanfiction#amrev fanfiction#hamilton fanfiction#amrev#martha laurens#john laurens#martha manning#alexander hamilton#henry laurens#dysfunctional family#cannot state enough the dysfunctional laurens family dynamics here
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Martha Laurens Ramsay’s inherited lands from her father and her uncle James were not particularly helpful to her in adulthood.
(Source: Memoirs of the Life of Martha Laurens Ramsay)
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haha sorry for disappearing again, anyway i’ve been thinking
i don’t think Martha Ramsay was a good guardian to Frances. i used to believe she must’ve been the best aunt in the world, but looking at the facts it seems she only took Fanny it out of family duty, not for any other reason.
-- Martha named her third daughter Frances, which seems weird since she was already raising a child named Frances. this combined with the fact that she didn’t name any of her sons John, presumably because her stepson’s name was John. if she didn’t reuse the name John, why did she reuse the name Frances?
-- i don’t think we’ve thought in detail about the fact that Fanny *ran off to Europe* to marry some guy, and after her divorce she didn’t go back to live with the people who raised her. we know Fanny stayed in England, we know her son was taken to Scotland. maybe she stayed to get to know her mother’s side of the family, but we have no proof of that. i don’t think we even have any surviving correspondence between Fanny and the Ramsays, which of course could’ve been lost, but it’s still odd.
-- Martha’s diary doesn’t mention her children a whole lot. the only times i can remember is A) Eleanor (b. 1787) keeping a diary and reading the bible to Martha after Henry Laurens’ death, B) Patty (Martha Jr, b. 1789) falling into a fireplace and sending letters to Martha’s friends pretending to be her mother, C) baby Frances’ (b. 1790, d. 1791) death, which is mentioned several times, and finally d) she talks about visiting her dying father with her baby daughter Kitty (b. 1792). even when Fanny runs off and elopes, Martha doesn’t mention her by name ever. she doesn’t mention Francis Jr either, even though that *technically* would’ve been her first grandchild, and the only one born while she was alive. she talks about Francis Sr in letters, but not in her diary, presumably where she should mention him the most.
-- i’m pretty sure she mentions her sister Mary’s kids in her diary more than Fanny. thinking about it now, i don’t think Fanny is mentioned in her diary AT ALL. again, like i said, she doesn’t talk about her children a lot in her diary, it still feels weird that she mentions children she had no custody over way more than the children she did.
-- it’s always said that Martha and David gave Fanny a good education, which is true. i’m pretty sure there’s a source that says Frances was the blueprint of how they raised their other children, which is a really weird way to put it. and i shouldn’t feel like i have to say it, but education ≠ affection.
anyway, there could 100% be sources i’m missing. admittedly, i’ve always had a really difficult time tracking down Martha’s correspondence beyond a few quotes, so if someone knows where to find them i would greatly appreciate it!
#Frances Eleanor Laurens#Martha Laurens#martha laurens ramsay#frances laurens#sorry i keep disappearing#i'm gone more often than your dad is#btw in case anyone checks this i'll be making a bigger post about this in the future#but i'm gonna be switching my username soon#mostly because i think people have the false assumption that i'm a girl because my username is based on frances#so i'll be switching it to something francis jr related
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#alexander hamilton#john laurens#eliza schuyler#thomas jefferson#james madison#marquis de lafayette#hercules mulligan#aaron burr#maria reynolds#george washington#theodosia burr#martha washington#hamilton#fanfiction#ao3#statistics#phantom statistician#lams#hamilton x laurens
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noir ladies + letterboxd reviews
#are you surprised that the only two who appear twice are barbara stanwyck and lauren bacall lmao#lauren bacall#barbara stanwyck#lana turner#rita hayworth#joan benett#joan crawford#veronica lake#gene tierney#the big sleep#the strange love of martha ivers#mildred pierce#this gun for hire#scarlet street#double indemnity#dark passage#laura#gilda#the postman always rings twice#noirvember#film noir#my gifs#my edits#gif warning#filmedit#oldhollywoodedit#uservienna#uservita#ritahayworrth#silverscreendames
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*Martha had only just come back from London, and she’s now living in New York. She’s been seeing many familiar faces; sometimes that’s a good thing, sometimes it isn’t. For example, there’s that rather irritating Samuel Seabury, than that jackass James Reynolds. Anyways, she works at an aquarium; nothing much, but she’s been trying to put her degree in acting to good use with no avail, and she has to make money somehow.*
(…? Who should she be friends with in this? Also, possible ships?)
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In the midst of his feverish diplomacy [at the court of Versailles], Laurens found time for personal matters. During his year in London, he had married "Patty" Manning, the daughter of his father's English partner, and she had delivered their daughter after he sailed to join Washington's army; although Mrs. Laurens had made plans to join her husband in America, her delicate health made the journey impossible. Hearing that Laurens was coming to France, she and her daughter smuggled themselves across the English Channel and joined the young colonel in Paris. It was a long, difficult journey, made at considerable risk. [...] Young Laurens himself was engaged in fundamental sabotage of His Majesty's hopes of victory; yet in the finest traditions of romance, Patty Laurens ignored the English spies and informers swarming in Paris and in the channel ports and rushed to her soldier.
Thomas Fleming, Beat the Last Drum (2016)
Truly amazing how you can just Say Things in a published history book. 🥲
There's a lot that's factually wrong here, but perhaps the most frustrating is the fanciful narrative that Martha Manning Laurens went off on a daring, romantic jaunt to see her husband. The reality was far from that, even from what little remains of her historic footprint, so it's a weird angle to spin.
Martha had spent over four years in London caring for their daughter on her own and making repeated pleas to travel to America. John found a reason to rebuff all of these, not because of her "delicate health" but rather on account of the risk of the voyage (which, admittedly, was not trivial). Most likely, his underlying reasoning was more selfish – having his family close by would require him to divide his time and attention, an inconvenince he was not willing to take on when there were more glorious things to do.
Left behind, ignored and dismissed, it is reasonable to conclude that Martha dared the journey to France in a last-ditch attempt to meet up with John and to travel back to America in his company (a plan he could hardly refuse). However, according to Massey, the reunion probably never happened, in part because Martha only learned of John's presence in Paris when he was already wrapping up his mission. He doesn't seem to have bothered to inform her ahead of time, and it certainly didn't occur to him that this would have been a convenient and expedient way to bring his wife and daughter home with him. (This man spent a month on a boat. It's not like he didn't have time to think about this.)
We don't need to – and shouldn't – exonerate John's poor treatment of Martha and Frances by plastering over it with this kind of romantic revisionism.
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may i interest you in some polly brainrot >:]
#mary eleanor laurens#john laurens#historical john laurens#martha laurens#henry laurens jr#laurens siblings#laurens family#laukids#these laukids doodles are slowly turning into a Polly + rest of the siblings saga#u can certainly tell which laukid is my favourite#i know i havent. actually drawn anything in like A MONTH but we dont talk about that here u have laukids food#the lovely quote from the first drawing was written to john from their uncle james laurens !#polly and patsy were living with them at the time#and by 1775 they went to visit the rest of the siblings who were in england at that time (john harry and jemmy)#so thats where the first doodles take place :) polly was merely a baby when the others sailed for england#so it would have felt like the first time she saw them#ENOUGH RAMBLING enjoy the doodles !!#my art#*first doodles from the second slide
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