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eirian-houpe · 4 years

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Chosen, But Not Wanted

Fandoms: Stargate Universe, Once Upon a Time (TV)

Rating: Explicit

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Relationships: Belle (Once Upon a Time)/Nicholas Rush

Characters: Belle (Once Upon a Time), Nicholas Rush, Jack O'Neill

Additional Tags: Smut, Angry Sex, A Monthly Rumbelling (Once Upon a Time)

Summary: Rush needs a linguist to help on the Ninth Chevron Project. Belle doesn't necessarily want a new job, she learns the 'hard way' not to tell Nick Rush that he's wrong.

Written for the February Monthly Rumbelling image prompt (Nicholas Rush leaning against a chalk board with a cup of coffee in his hands)

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Chosen, But Not Wanted.

He had admired her for some time… from a distance of course, but then, no, because admiration suggested a level of engagement that he simply didn’t possess, or want in regard to this woman. Respect then. He had respected her for some time… but again, no, because to respect her would of necessity elevate her to his level of intelligence and application, and to be frank, he doubted she would even come close. Liked her? No, he didn’t know the girl… and at the thought he did somehow, mentally acknowledge that she had made several notable achievements for someone of such a tender age as she, but still - that didn’t make her the one he’d need to succeed in the project. No, it all still wasn’t right, and it was frustrating him that he couldn’t easily categorize her, or understand his need to.

He did need to, though, he conceded, perhaps if for no other reason than to set boundaries between them; to let them each know where they stood when they began working together on uncovering how to dial the Ninth Chevron, and so he returned to the irritating conundrum that was categorizing his feelings about, and his potential relationship with Belle French.

She received the first telephone call while she was in the shower, after a particularly hard run, and she’d been running to try and clear out the anger and sense of utter betrayal, and the frustration at everything that had happened since she’d caught her boyfriend of several years fucking one of his office secretaries, and not only that, but in their bed.

It wasn’t the first time she’d caught him cheating, but it had been nothing like that. That time he’d just had his tongue half way down the woman’s throat and his hands in some places they hadn’t ought to be. They’d fought… for days, but in the end she had given him another chance. His last.

Which was why she found herself in a shower, in a Motel 6 close to the university campus, listening to the phone ring, again, and wondering if she should bother getting out to answer it. She decided not to. It was probably only that sniveling worm calling again to try and get her to listen to his ‘heartfelt’ apology for his lapse, and empty promises that he wouldn’t ever do it again. Either that, or her goddamn father who refused to keep his nose out and had sided with Aston; told her to go back to him, that she didn’t know a good thing when she had it, and if - of all the thing to say to her, this had made her the most incensed - if she hadn’t been so wrapped up with all the work for her Doctorate, and her job afterwards, he wouldn’t have felt so neglected and looked elsewhere for what he needed.

The ensuing argument she’d had with her father had made her realize many truths that she’d been hiding from herself, if she were to be completely honest. Things between herself and Aston had been over for a long time. She was just too stuck in her ways to have moved on.

Either way, she was not talking to either of them, so stepped back into the stream of water, turning her face up to its cascade to let its caress wash away her tears of self recrimination and disappointment.

“Maybe she’s one of those people that doesn’t answer her phone if it’s a number she doesn’t recognise,” O’Neill suggested as their call went to voicemail for the second time.

Rush shook his head. “Try again,” he said.

“Doctor Rush…”

“Again!” he insisted, and looked pointedly at General O’Neill until he hit the redial on the phone.

‘You know,” O’Neill said, and looked up at him as they listened to the phone ringing. “There are more language experts in the US than just this one.”

Rush stared at O’Neill, thinking that for a man who had dealt with hostile aliens and other dangerous situations where dealing with the unknown hinged on having the people with the best skills in the right place at the right time, he was being particularly short sighted. He opened his mouth to say something of the sort, though he was sure it would come out in a more colorful and expressive manner, when the ringing on the other end ceased abruptly, and this time was not replace by the sedate and polite voicemail message they’d listened to the first time, when they left Doctor French a message.

“Listen, you utter cockshite,” the woman on the other end of the phone was clearly agitated, and while O’Neill blinked at the greeting, Rush found himself both intrigued, and somewhat impressed by the ferocity of her ire, “this is bordering on harassment! For the last time, I’m not interested in your fucking excuses, and definitely don’t want your apologies. I’m not interested in any of your bullshit frankly, so leave. Me. Alone.”

Rush watched O’Neill swallow, and then take a deep breath before the General said, “Doctor French?” Silence. “Doctor French, this is General Jack O’Neill, United States Air Force, and I have Doctor Nicholas Rush with me. You’re on speaker. There’s a matter we’d like to discuss with you.”

Belle clasped the towel more tightly around herself, her hair dripping down her back as she listened with growing disbelief to the complete crap Aston was spouting in an effort to get her to speak with him.

When his sad performance came to an end, Belle - trembling slightly from more than the fact that she was standing dripping wet in nothing but a towel in a motel room that wasn’t exactly the warmest place on Earth - spat back, “Fuck you, Aston! Seriously, if that’s all you’ve got, then fuck you to hell!” and pressed the button to cut the call.

She threw the phone down onto the bed, following it a moment later and covering her face with her hands, breathing in deeply to try and regain her composure. She had to get herself dressed, and ready for work, and she couldn’t show up at the university as agitated as she was. It wouldn’t be fair to her students.

Having partly recovered enough to go and finish her shower, she stood up and headed back to the bathroom. Hardly able to believe the ridiculous the lengths to which Aston was going to try and get her attention, she climbed back into the shower, and turned it on as hot as she could stand it, and ten minutes later, her skin pink and tingling, she stepped out again, feeling clean and cleansed, and more than ready to face the rest of the day… the rest of her life, for while in the shower she had determined that she would not waste another minute of her time on getting upset over what her ex had put her through, and if her father wanted to take his side, then she’d have nothing more to do with him either.

She was taking back her life and no one was going to stop her.

She opened the closet, and searched through her dresses to try and find the one she wanted to wear: a blue, mid-length dress with a flared skirt, fitted, low cut bodice all with a lacy overlay. The outfit would serve her perfectly, and along with the soft lace underwear caressing her skin, she felt feminine and strong, both at the same time.

Today, she was determined she would set the stuffy academic world of the ancient and modern languages department on its head.

“Well…”

That was all that O’Neill had to offer to him as Miss French hung up on them, and Rush made a face and said dryly, “Well, she’s certainly mastered the vernacular.”

O’Neill chuckled at that, and waving a hand asked, “And this is the woman you want on your team?”

“General O’Neill,” Rush explained patiently, “Mathematics is just another language, and unless or until someone manages to crack the code written into the computer game we released into the ‘wild,’ or however it was that your technicians named that godforsaken cesspit that is the World Wide Web, she’s the best we have. Not to mention that having someone else around that could help to parse the Ancient we have on file would help to alleviate a massive time suck that has been delaying our progress. Her affinity for language makes her the ideal candidate.”

“What a ringing endorsement,” O’Neill said dryly, then sighed, “All right. I’ll make a call, have someone local pick her up and we’ll transport her here for a face to face.”

“No,” Rush said quickly, and breathed out harshly down his nose, and O’Neill raised an eyebrow at his objection and his tone. Then slightly more conciliatory Rush added, “If the General Hammond can spare the time, I’ll go.”

“You know damn well she’s assigned to the Icarus, Rush,” O’Neill said. “What game are you playing? Why not just wait for Doctor French to listen to her voicemail and figure out that our call was genuine and--”

“Because you know damn well,” Rush said, suddenly becoming agitated in his insistence, “that we’re running out of time.”

O’Neill sighed, and then standing, held up a hand in what Rush supposed was a placating gesture. “All right,” he said, “but I’m coming with you.”

Rather than let the news agitate her when she discovered that her lecture had been moved from the Arts and Humanities building to the Physics department, of all places, due to an equipment malfunction in her regular lecture hall, Belle took the news in her stride, and after making sure there were notes to her students stuck on both her office door, and the lecture hall, she enjoyed the short sojourn out in the California sunshine across the campus to the science building.

She couldn’t help but chuckle to herself just a little as she crossed the no-mans-land into ‘enemy territory’ and more than a few heads began to turn. After a few moments of it she began to wonder whether she should be flying a white flag as she came.

It wasn’t until she actually reached the lecture hall that the first groan of the day - since leaving her motel room, of course - momentarily escaped her small frame as she saw the man who was down in the pit of the hall, leaning against a chalkboard that was covered in formulae, cradling a cup of what smelled like strong coffee in long fingered hands. He was dressed in dark, belted jeans, a coordinating olive green t-shirt and vest combination, worn over a long sleeved white undershirt, the sleeves of which were pushed up to the middle of his forearms. His hair was long, and he had a scruffy beard, shot through - she could see as she descended the steps toward him - with gray. He looked as though he was either miles away in thought or waiting for something, and bored, very very bored.

“I’m sorry,” she called out to him, trying not to sound as irritated as she was becoming. “Excuse me, but I think there’s been some kind of a mistake.”

He looked up at her then, and she thought she saw his eyes widen in what could have been surprise, before they narrowed again to the same, sardonic stare as she’d noticed in them when she first drew near enough.

“No,” he said “I don’t think so.”

He had an accent, a brogue that set a warmth somewhere inside of her at its depth and at the heat of it, even in so mild a disavowal. She pushed it aside - or tried to, but had to confess that now that she was closer, and the full realization of his appearance, and intellectual presence hit her, she could not deny the early stirring of attraction toward this stranger.

“Oh, really?” she said, coming to a halt and folding her arms across her breasts. “And how do you figure that?”

She expected him to insist that the college had told him that the hall would be his that morning, and that she would just have to take up another space for her lecture. Instead he said, “Belle French, isn’t it?”

She blinked, and then her heart skipped. He didn’t look like a cop, and even if he were, she’d done nothing to anticipate a police officer would be confronting her in her place of work in any case, unless…

“My father...!” she squeaked, worry starting to build in her chest.

“Moe French?” the man asked, and before she could even nod her confirmation, he went on, “Useless waste of space by all accounts. You on the other hand--”

“I beg your pardon!” she snapped, even though she couldn’t fault this stranger and shared his opinion, she wasn’t about to let him stand there and bad mouth her papa. But it seemed he could read her mind.

“Oh, come now, Miss French,” he scoffed with brittle, dry sarcasm, “Let’s not start lying to one another now . You have a very low opinion of your father.”

“That may be true,” she admitted curtly, “but that doesn’t give you free reign to speak ill of him. If there’s any of that to be done, I’ll be the one to call him out.” The stranger sighed, and bristling still further, she demanded, “Who the hell are you anyway?”

“Rush,” the man said. “Doctor Nicholas Rush.”

For several minutes the name meant nothing to her, other than a nagging feeling that she’d heard or seen it somewhere before. So, instead of reacting to the name she said, in the same irritated tone, “And I suppose you’re going to tell me that this is your lecture hall, and that I’m going to have to go find some place else?”

“It used to be mine, but not any more,” he said, starting to peel himself from the chalkboard, and walking her way for just a couple of steps.

“Used to be?” she snapped, her already short temper shortening still further.

“I used to work here,” he said as though it were obvious.

“Well, I’m sure this little tour of nostalgia is all well and good,” she told him, “but I’m due to give a lecture in here in…” she looked at her watch and frowned when she saw it was actually past time for her lecture to begin, and there was not a single student in sight.

“There won’t be a lecture, Miss French,” he said, setting his coffee cup down on the desk and standing facing her, his fingertips resting lightly on a manilla folder that lay on the top of the desk.

“No lecture?” she snapped, “What--”

“Your students have been told that you’re feeling unwell and--”

“How dare you!” she tried to interject, but he just continued talking.

“--my friend and I would very much like to have a word with you, if you don’t mind. It is rather urgent.”

It was only when he moved from the shadows at the side of the room that she noticed the other man in the room. He was taller, older, his hair more gray, and short cropped in a typical military hair style. He was clean shaven, with a serious expression on his face, but the thing that caught her attention, and made her cheeks flush in sudden remembrance was the dark blue uniform he wore, over a crisp white shirt, and darker tie, and the number of decorations attached to the front left hand side of his jacket.

He approached her without speaking until he stood to her side, his hat tucked under his left arm, his right extended toward her offering a handshake.

“General Jack O’Neill,” he said “United states Air Force. We spoke earlier on the phone.”

His words made her blush deepen as she recalled the words that had fallen from her mouth during that call. She took his hand and looked from him to where Doctor Rush still stood with his fingers on the folder on top of the folder.

“I am so sorry,” she stuttered, looking between them again.

“No matter,” Rush said as O’Neill drew back his hand, “I’ve been called worse.” He offered her a brief, wry smile. “Perhaps you wouldn’t mind taking a look at this for me.”

As he spoke, he pushed the folder in her direction and then removed his fingers as she hesitantly reached for it.

“What is it?” she asked.

“You tell me,” he answered.

Frowning, she opened the folder, and began to look through the photographs inside. Every single one of them showed groups of symbols of varying lengths. Some of the symbols had a verisimilitude to the symbols of other languages and cultures she’d seen before, one or two of which she could decipher, given time, if not clearly read, Sumerian for example, or Aramaic, even Sanskrit, but she couldn’t quite put her finger on what, or why it felt so very familiar to her.

She turned one photograph first one way, and then the other, her quick mind starting to see patterns in the arrangement, consonantal clusters interspersed with other symbols, which it was safe to assume could be vowels, but if - like many semitic languages - this was also as consonantal language that couldn’t necessarily be assumed.

She didn’t realize she had been speaking her thoughts aloud until Doctor Rush softly cleared his throat, and reached to take the folder and photographs from her hands, and nodded to General O’Neill.

“Doctor French,” O’Neill said quietly, “Would you mind coming with us? Somewhere we can actually discuss this matter a little more openly… fill you in on one of two… details that--”

“Well,” Belle hedged. She knew she should be able to trust someone in a USAF uniform, but Rush… well, it seemed odd to her that such a man would be in the company of an Air Force general, but at the same time, she really wanted another look at those photographs. Eventually she sighed.

“Give me a moment to get my jacket and my purse.” she said.

“That won’t actually be necessary,” O’Neill said softly, “And I assure you, we’ll drop you back once we’re done.”

“Or send someone to gather your things,” Rush added, and she looked at him, unable to stop the glare from fixing on him at his presumptuousness.

Again, she sighed, and this time threw up her hands, “Fine, fine,” she said, mostly to the general. “Lead the way.”

She watched as a knowing smirk curved Rush’s lips, and he folded his arms as O’Neill tapped what looked like some kind of bluetooth device at the side of his face, close by his ear. A small frown drawing down her brows as suddenly the world around her whited out.

It wasn’t exactly an unpleasant sensation. One moment she was standing in the lecture hall beside Doctor Rush and General O’Neill, and the next… surrounded by the most intense light she could imagine, which slowly faded, leaving spots floating in the air before her eyes, the way they would after looking too long at the sun without shades on, but around her, as her vision refocussed, she saw the darkened, blue lit, gray interior of… well… she couldn’t figure out what she was seeing, nor where she was.

A sudden wave of dizziness swept over her, and she staggered slightly as she tried to straighten herself before the warmth of slender but strong arms slipped around her to grasp both her upper arms supportively and in the next moment, warm breath passed over the space beside her ear, and Rush’s voice, low and with a hint of amusement purred in her ear.

“I find that closing your eyes helps with that,” he said, making no move to let go, which, given that she had, almost on instinct, half turned his way and was clutching at his vest and one of his arms, was likely as much her fault as anything else.

Rush sensed that her equilibrium was off almost before she began to stagger, and he recalled that the experience had taken him in a similar fashion the first time he’d been transported aboard one of the Asgard ships. His reflexes being what they were, he unfolded his arms, and wrapped them around Doctor French, steadying her as soon as it happened. He wasn’t usually drawn to such acts of chivalry, but something he’d seen in French’s face as she studied the photographs made at least a part of him - the part that grew protective of people on his team, people under him - want to take care of her.

He found himself taken by surprise when she grasped the font of his vest and began clinging to one of his arms, almost pressing herself against him as if seeking refuge. So he leaned closer to murmur in her ear that it might be helpful to close her eyes the next time. He didn’t put it quite like that thought, being the man he was, and it came out both entirely more sexually than he intended, and with a half a dose more snark. She clutched him tighter, and he felt himself respond to that in ways he hadn’t anticipated, a thrill of heat going through him to find a home centered in his loins. He felt the pulse of it between his thighs, and the beginnings of a stirring that would have been highly visible in the tight jeans that he had worn that day.

“Welcome aboard the USS George Hammond,” O’Neill said cheerfully, like a man showing off a prized automobile from his collection, giving Rush a moment to disengage himself from the woman in his arms, at least enough that she wasn’t pressed against the length of him. She still held, limpet-like, to his arm.

“USS…” French said, and swallowed hard, “Like… like a ship you mean.”

“Something like that,” O’Neill said. “In orbit though, not on the ocean.”

Rush watched her pale, and thought for a moment he was going to have to grab a hold of her again, but this time the color draining from her face preceded the next moment when a wave of color and heat rose just as rapidly to her cheeks, and she turned from Rush - though still had not let go of his arm - to face O’Neill, and seemed to let him have it, both barrels, right between the eyes.

“Are you out of your mind! ” she snapped, “First of all you take it on yourself to cancel my lectures for the day, then you kidnap me, and now you’re trying to tell me that--!”

Her words cut off abruptly as Rush shifted slightly, and since she was still clinging to his arm, she turned with him so that there was no way she would miss, even if it were from the corner of her eyes, the sight of Earth beneath them through the view screen of the Hammond’s bridge.

“I understand it’s a lot to take in…” O’Neill began, but French’s color had drained again, and suddenly letting go of Rush’s arm she stumbled away, looking around wildly, until one of the crew directed her to the nearest head.

Rush sighed. If she was going to be of any use at all, she was going to have to get with the program pretty damn quick. He exchanged a sour look with O’Neil when the general said cheerfully, “That went well.”

Belle sat with her head in her hands, elbows on the table in the mess hall, an a cup of brown liquid that passed for tea aboard the ship cupped between her hands. She finally seemed to have found her equilibrium, but that didn’t really make her feel any better, because she felt she’d made such a fool of herself that there would be no coming back from it.

Footsteps approaching, and then the sound of a file folder sliding across the table toward her made her lift her head, to see Doctor Rush taking a seat opposite her.

“Don’t feel too badly,” he said by way of greeting. “You took it better than most people.”

“And of course, you never thought of doing something sensible, like, warning someone?” she said letting more than a hint of pique show in her voice.

Rush gave her a grin that bordered on manic or feral, before he said, “I was never one to coddle my students, staff, or members of my team.”

“I’m not any of those things,” she snapped, and he shrugged a little.

“No, but you will be,” he said.

“Arrogant son-of-a-bitch, aren’t you?”

Again, he shrugged, “I prefer ‘confident,’ but as I said earlier, I’ve been called worse.”

“Telling me what I’ll do is not confidence,” she said. “That’s up to me, no one else, and certainly not you.”

“You underestimate me, Miss French,” he said. “Plus… I saw your expression when you saw the photographs. Besides which, I wouldn’t take you for someone to pass up a challenge.”

“You--” She began, meaning to reiterate just what she thought of him. Her irritation rose, though at the same time she felt another, uncomfortably familiar feeling flush through her.

“Perhaps you’d like to take another look,” he said, sliding the file folder closer to her, though he kept his hand on top of it.

She met his eyes, hers narrowed, and bristled still further at the smirk she saw in his. He knew he had her interest. She’d given herself away and he was using it to lord it over her.. Damn the man, but worse - and she hoped he hadn’t caught her out in this as well - she couldn't help but find him attractive. In spite of his scruffy appearance, and his two or three day growth of stubble, his eyes were darkly brooding and full of mystery, and the verbal sparring they were engaged in was filling her with an ache of want that would be a lie to deny to herself. Add to all of that the old cliche that smart was sexy, and she knew she was in big trouble.

However, she’d be damned if she was going to let the arrogant bastard dictate what she was going to do.

“Why me?” she demanded, letting her tone speak of her annoyance as she set down her tea.

He shrugged. “Of all the profiles I read while searching for a language specialist, yours was by far the most… robust.” she opened her mouth to question his words, but he continued, “and I’d heard of you; read one of your papers. Seemed like you’d be a reasonable fit for the team.”

“Reasonable--” she spluttered. “Oh, my god, seriously?” She felt like picking up her now lukewarm tea and throwing it in his face. “With that warm a recommendation you expect me to just… what? Fall at your feet like some adoring groupy?”

“Just read the file,” he said, his tone more of an order, not a request. He lifted his hand from atop it, and climbed to his feet. “Bring it back to me when you’re done. Deck 4 Starboard 9.”

Belle spluttered again, while trying to come up with the words to tell him in no uncertain terms that she would do no such thing, but he didn’t wait for her to find them. He simply turned and left the mess hall. She didn’t move until he was out of sight, but then reached out to pull the file the rest of the way over, and flipped open the cover.

Rush lay on the bed in his quarters, his feet bare, one knee raised, one arm thrown over his face, taking a rare few moments of rest.

Never mind that all the way back to his quarters from the mess hall, he’d thought of nothing but the look of angry challenge he’d seen in Belle French’s eyes as he told her that she would be on his team. He maintained that. He had seen her hunger as she’d studied the photographs of the Ancient text they’d found, that he believed had bearing on the Ninth Chevron Project… and dear God she was beautiful, even more so when she was trying not to be pissed at him.

He moaned softly at the faint stirrings of feelings that he hadn’t had since well before Gloria died; since he’d repeatedly pushed people away so that he wouldn’t betray her memory, but with Belle… He found himself wondering how that anger he’d seen in her might be translated to passion; how her resolve might fuel her need, further his need to involve her in more than just his team on the Ninth Chevron Project, but not wanting to give in to to such wanton imaginings, he rolled over onto his belly, burying his head beneath the pillow.

Fucking hell I need to sleep!

The more she read, the more Belle became excited, invested, and the more these feelings grew, the more annoyed she became with Rush for his arrogance, and the knowing smirk he wore on his face, but most of all because, goddamn the man, he was right about her!

She frowned then. Sooner or later she was going to have to tell him; accept his invitation … not that it was an invitation, more of an expectation. She suspected that was something that rubbed quite a few people up the wrong way, and that he wasn’t a man to ‘play well with others,’ as the saying went. The intensity of the man probably put a lot of people off. A sudden blush rose to her cheeks as, sitting back in her chair, she saw his eyes, the amber-browns staring, remembered the way the long digits of his slender hands fingered his full lips as he’d watched her. She bit her lip, closing her eyes and letting out a long breath down her nose to try and push away the tingling ache that was starting to heat her core. She stifled a moan, trying to distract herself, forcing her mind to sort through the Ancient symbology she’d been studying only moments before her rebellious mind led her astray; numbers, letters and the words she’d parsed from all she’d seen swimming in her mind - though doing little to cool her need.

It was then it hit her…

At first he thought it was his alarm, and he reached out to his bedside to try and silence it, but only moments later the sound came again, and still groggy from sleep, he rolled over and sat up, running a hand through his hair to try and tame it a little. The sound of the door chime came again, and climbing to his feet he padded toward the door, grumbling to whoever it was to wait.

He palmed the console to open the door, and came immediately awake as if someone had just emptied a bucket of cold water over his head, and he couldn’t help glancing at himself to make sure he was decent. He was sure he had been dreaming.

French was standing in his doorway, almost bouncing with impatience, and looked up at him expectantly.

“Miss French,” he said by way of greeting, and stepping aside slightly, gestured to her to come in.

“That’s Doctor French, and...” she said as she brushed past him, filling his awareness with the scent of her perfume, subtle notes of vanilla and rose that seemed as aroused as she herself appeared to be. Mentally he shook himself for his choice of words, but no other seemed to fit.

He palmed the door control again, and turned to face her, just as she slapped the file folder against his chest, and uttered the only two words in the entire English language that were guaranteed to get him riled.

“You’re wrong.”

His face darkened, and catching the file folder by the corner he folded his arms across his chest and leaned indolently against the door he had just closed.

“Oh really?” he said. When she didn’t immediately answer, he added, “I don’t think so.”

She stepped toward him again then, her eyes as hard as ice and she snatched back the folder, opening it to take out a photograph, waving it in front of his face as she said, “If you translate this strictly according to the matrix and existing lexicon you’ve compiled, there are parts of it that make no sense. So there’s an error, and it’s here .” she held the photograph still for a moment to point to a section of the image. “This section… these letters.”

He snatched the photograph from her fingers and peered at it, hard, before glancing up at her and back down at the photograph.

“And given that some of those characters are number placeholders, I would imagine that’s why your math is off too.”

“My math is--” Rush spluttered, then his voice turned darker as he said, “Oh, I assure you, Miss French there is absolutely nothing wrong with my calculations.”

“ Doctor French,” she hissed, “And there is if the numbers you're working with are the wrong ones.”

He thrust the photograph back into the file folder that he pulled from her hands, and tossed the whole thing toward the bed. Then rounded on her again, his voice hard as he spoke.

“You have the audacity to walk in here--” he began, but it seemed she was not for being chastened, and as her own anger flared, filling her eyes with the rare beauty of life and passion, he felt his anger shifting toward need, arousal stirring in him.

“Audacity?” she snapped, taking a step toward him. “You brought me here, insisted, as I recall, that I was going to join your team--”

“And it seems that I was right,” he cut across her objection, stepping toward her as she had to him, nodding toward the file that had spilled its contents over the top of the covers. Spread there as he was suddenly almost desperate to spread her open… lose himself to his reawakened passion.

“I didn’t have a lot of choice!” she all but growled at him, and taking another step his way and seemingly in frustration pushed at him, her small hands like brands on his chest. “I don’t--”

He grasped her wrists, tugging her closer and trapping her arms between them, and she gasped as he did, cutting off what she’d been saying. He dipped his head, crushing his mouth to hers, unable not to, her inner fire calling to him. She stiffened, but only for a heartbeat, before she opened to his kiss, kissing him back with equal want - equal passion even as she tried to wrest her hands from his tight grasp.

She tasted sweet. Like summer and honey, and he moaned, turning them, pushing them up against the door, and released her hands, pressing the length of his body to hers, already hard. She ran her fingers into his hair, pulling his head back as she tore her mouth from his, her breathing labored, and began nipping along his stubble covered jaw and neck. He trailed his hand down over her, cupping her breast through her tight fitting bodice, the lacy overlay rough against his palm where her peaked nipple pushed it against him.

She moaned, her hands slipping from his hair to tug at his shirt, her fingers seeking skin as he released her breast, his fingers sliding down over her hip, beneath the skirt, and climbing again in a heated caress against her thigh, tugging at her legs to encourage her to part them.

Belle felt dizzy with the taste of his skin, salt and sweet and bitter, all at the same time, like cinnamon sugar. She gasped as she felt his fingers on her thigh, the light pull of his hand against her leg, and she stood on tiptoes, as she slipped her arms around his shoulders to steady herself against him, lifting one thigh to wrap it against the roughness of his denim clad leg.

He tugged at her hair with his free hand, capturing her mouth again as she looked up at him, plundering the sweetness of her mouth as she pushed her hands against the slender plains of his chest, her palms against his nipples as her tongue tangled with his, drawing a moan from him. Then he slipped his fingers from her hair and wrapped his arm around her waist, holding her pressed against him as he reached behind himself and pulled off both shirts, tossing them aside.

She gasped, pulling back from the kiss to press her lips against his chest nipping at his skin as his fingertips teased against the edge of her lace panties, slipped inside and teased in the wetness there, slender fingers gliding through her soaked softness, teasing her clit before circling her entrance and drawing a soft mew from her. She pressed herself against his hand.

“Rush…!” she gasped, and clung to him, her fingernails tightening against his shoulders as he slipped one long finger inside of her, the side of his hand pressing lightly against her swollen nub, barely moving, but enough to fill her with an increased, trembling need.

He leaned down, his teeth nipping at her neck, her pulse, the sweep of his tongue soothing the sharpness, his arm slid from around her waist to press against the backs of her thighs, supporting her as he lifted her, and she wrapped her other leg around his waist as he turned moved the few steps to the bed, tumbling the both of them on top of the photographs - heedless, and she pressed up against him again, bucking against his hand, wanting more - needing more. She began to tug at his belt with hands that trembled with the strength of her need.

She all but whined softly, voicing that need when his touch slipped from inside her, just as his belt came loose, just as she tugged at the button and slipped her own hand against the scalding heat, and steel hardness nested within the tightness of his jeans. Then she clung to him, to his shoulders, before pushing up against his chest, and framing his hips with her parted thighs, pressing against him through his opened fly, as he rolled them, and reached up to tug at the zipper at the back of her dress… as soon as he had it open, she snatched at her skirt, crossed her arms and lifted the dress off over her head.

Rush gasped at the sight of her as she straddled him in just her blue lace bra and barely there lace panties. He grasped her hips as she straddled him, wild and lost in passion as he ground her against him - though she seemed to need little encouragement - and rolled against her wet sex.

He reached up, sliding his palms along her sides and sweeping inwards to cup her breast; the lace all that separated her from his touch. His thumbs teased her through that lace, and she moaned and pressed against his hands, opening her eyes to look at him. They were dark with desire, her lips parted in a soft intake of breath at each pass of the pad of his thumb before she reached behind her, unhooked the garment’s fastening, and tossed it aside to land with her discarded dress, the firm globes of her breast spilling into his waiting hands.

He pushed up against her, aching and trapped within his remaining clothing, trembled as her fingers brushed him again through the cotton of his shorts, beneath the heat of her core. He leaned up on his elbows to take the swollen, puckered nub of one nipple into his mouth, his teeth tugging, his tongue swirling, drawing a cry from her as he nipped, and then pressed open mouthed kisses over the curving mound of her breast to reach the other, murmuring as he went, his voice rasping and ragged.

“Take them off.”

He watched with heavy lidded eyes as she moved away enough to tug at the waistband of his jeans and shorts, all in one smooth motion, pulling them down over his thighs until he could wriggle out of them, ridding herself of her own remaining garment, before she moved to let her head fall against his pillow. She caught his hand as she did, and he entwined their fingers, taking the hint, moving with her, to briefly cover her, and tease between her folds with the heat of him, before kissing down over her belly. He released her hand to lift her thighs, to part her legs and lift them up over his shoulders, nuzzling his nose through the trim curls covering her soft folds, before plundering her sweetness with his mouth, tasting her, pulling at her with his lips, his stubble scratching lightly at her as he swept his tongue over her clit. She moaned softly, and ground against him.

“More…” she gasped, and teasing, slowly, he pressed a finger, then a second inside of her, still lapping at her, drinking the sweet nectar of her want, her need. Drawing his fingers almost all the way out from her before plunging them back inside. He closed his mouth around her clit and suckled, and she bucked against him as though trying to escape. “Oh, God!”

He moved and sucked stronger and with more rapid, gliding thrusts, feeling her body tighten beneath him, feeling her inner walls squeezing his fingers, knowing she was close. He pressed himself against the bed, seeking to release a little of the pressure building in him, the need for her touch, the need to bury himself inside of her.

He continued the rhythm of the in and out glide of his fingers, flicking his eyes up to rest on her face, to watch the tightness of sweet agony become the open mouthed beatific cry of fulfilment as she came apart at his touch, and removing his fingers he pushed his tongue inside her, lapping at her juices, drinking her sweetness as though she were water in the dessert, and he a dying man.

She lifted her hips, riding out her climax against the hungry press of his tongue, his nose against her clit, until she reached for him, her fingers clutching at his shoulders as she gasped, “Inside me…”

“Belle…!” he growled, rising over her, moaning as she reached between them and closed her hand around his length, her thighs parting to either side of him as he moved, and guided him until he pressed against her heat briefly, before he slowly gilded deep inside her, right to the hilt.

He moaned, a long, low sound, and she let out a keening cry of her own, her still burning need given voice. For a moment they both stilled, pressed against each other, her fingers pushed into his hair, damp and tangled with her juices, and they moved together to kiss deeply, with rising desperate passion, until he reached for her fingers, entwining them with his own and pressing them to the top of the bed as he began to slowly withdraw, and thrust inside again, deeply, slowly, taking her completely with each thrust, pressing against her so deeply that his balls pressed against her, between then. Twitching slightly, her tight, inner walls squeezed him. She moved with him, lifted her thighs around him again, and rocked with him, their shared rhythm becoming faster, harder, consuming. He knew he wasn’t going to last.

Her trembling beneath him told him neither would she last. She gasped with breathy voiced moans with each movement, each thrust, each pull against her tightness, the sound of her pleasure only increasing his own. He wanted to feel her come around him, to feel the pulse of her squeeze him, claim him…

“Rush!” she gasped, a breathless whisper, gripping him so tightly inside her that it was almost painful, but such sweet pain, as the trembling of light pushed behind his eyes, demanding admittance. Then, in the following moment, she fell, coming so hard around him that it stole his breath, with a sharp, almost shrill cry of fulfilment and summons that he could no more deny her than he could stop breathing, and he followed her, white light and colored sparks burst inside him, and with an almost sobbing cry of his own he spilled himself deep within her as she squeezed him… milked him dry.

Into the silence that was disturbed only by their labored breathing, spent, he collapsed onto her, nestling his head into the crook of her neck as she wrapped her trembling arms around him. She ran her fingers into his hair and he allowed himself the moment, the solace of her caress, before he pushed himself up onto his elbows, looking down on her, her eyes still closed, her face a picture of bliss.

He kissed her then, just softly, and she responded with the lazy peace of post-coital contentment. When they broke apart, he carefully left the safe haven of her body, and rolled to the side, though not yet ready to let her go. He drew her with him, in his own turn running his fingers through her hair, drawing quiet mewling sounds from her as she snuggled closer, and laid her bent leg over the top of one of his, her arm resting across his belly.

Belle sighed softly, cherishing the moment, the warmth of his body, his arms around her, his fingers running through her hair, and making small circles against the small of her back. It drew the occasional twitch from her, when his fingers brushed just the right spot.

“Nicholas…? Nick…?” she breathed against his neck, and felt him shift a little against her and heard the rumble of a tiny moan beginning in his chest.

“Rush is fine,” he whispered; a hoarse whisper, as though he somehow couldn’t speak.

“Fine,” she echoed the last of his words. She sighed again, and then lay in silence holding, and being held, just breathing together. Nothing more until something occurred to her, and with a slightly teasing tone in her voice, she said, “You’re still wrong.”

That drew a low, languid chuckle from him, and he craned his neck a little to look down at her, as she looked up.

“Trying for round two…? Miss French?”

Notes: Damn it, I think I may just have had a stupid crazy idea!

#a monthly rumbelling #amr #rushbelle #smut #angry sex

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Culture and Translation - S01 E01 C01-05

Welcome to the first post in what a I hope is a series of thorough cultural and linguistic explanations. I’ve had a lot of fun learning about other cultures from other Skam remakes, and I’m seriously looking forward to sharing Spanish high school culture with people abroad.

This first post was getting pretty long, so I decided to stop with clip 5. There should be a second part coming at some point.

General notes:

All of the characters pepper their speech with discourse markers. You can read up on those at the link, but they are words and phrases that, generally, don’t change the meaning of the sentence. Some of the most typical discourse markers in English are: oh, well, now, then, you know, I mean. By contrast, these are some of the discourse markers the characters use: pues, es que, bueno, eh, a ver.

Even though they have no real value at the meaning level because they don’t change the meaning of the sentence, I have tried to include as many discourse markers as possible. The main reason I’ve done that is because the characters are teenagers, and teen slang commonly uses a lot of discourse markers (see: Valleyspeak). The second reason is that they add nuance to a scene or a character. The more chill a character is in a certain scene, the more discourse markers they will use. And vice versa.

Ciao: I have opted to translate all instances of “chao” as ciao. As in English, “chao” is an Italian loanword, which origin is ciao. “Chao” is a common usage word, in that it’s not perceived as Italian by Spanish speakers. However, the way it sounds is recognizable to English speakers as ciao. I’ve decided to keep it, instead of using something else like bye. Spanish speakers already have many other ways of saying bye, so I find it pointless to translate “chao” as something else when English speakers already understand what it means from sound alone.

As happened in the OG and many of the remakes, the characters use a lot of English loanwords. Chalk this up to American cultural imperialism. By the way, I find it strange that people have no issues with the European characters peppering their speech with English loanwords, but seem to think the Austin characters peppering their speech with Spanish loanwords is unrealistic. Texas used to be part of Mexico, for one, and for two, they use Spanish loanwords because it’s part of their upbringing, their characters, and the culture they live in. Just something I thought I should note.

The characters swear, and swear often. Spanish people of all ages swear as often as the characters in Skam do. I will get to each specific swear word as it comes up.

CLIP 1: Last day of summer vacation

Bachilller/Bachillerato: Already wrote about it on Twitter. Bachillerato, or Baccalaureate or Upper Secondary School, is a type of schooling that prepares students for university. It consists of two grades: first and second. Eva, and all the characters born in 2002, are starting Bachillerato this year.

There are five kinds of Bachillerato tracks: International, Arts, Sciences, Humanities and Social Sciences. Not every high school offers all five tracks, which is why some students will transfer to a different high school for a specific track.

Most Spanish high schools offer both the Mandatory Secondary Education (or ESO) program and the Baccalaureate program. This is why some of the characters are new to the school, while others have been going to the school for years.

“Hostia,” which I translated as shit, is an extremely common Spanish swear word. It literally means sacramental bread, as in the one used for the ritual of the Eucharist. I’m not completely sure how it evolved from a religious word to a swear word. I posted a theory on twitter that it might’ve happened when people started saying, “te voy a dar una hostia,” to mean, “I’m going to slap the shit out of you.” “Hostia,” as in the swear word, means either a hard slap on the face, or serves the same purpose that “shit” does in English.

I can’t tell wtf Eva is eating in this scene. I think it’s some kind of bread sticks, or possibly these.

CLIP 2: Boy squad two seasons early

“Mierda como un piano,” which I translated as A PILE OF SHIT, literally means, “a piece of crap as large as a grand piano.” I thought the expression I used did the trick.

“Urbanización,” the housing complex where Hugo lives, can either mean a rowhouse complex, where each house has many stories, or an apartment complex, where there are two or more apartments in each story. Either of these can feature, as a perk, a pool for the exclusive use of the residents. It’s not made clear whether Hugo’s family owns a rowhouse or an apartment.

“Se me fue la puta pinza” literally means, “the fucking clothespin slipped away from me.” Not too sure about the origin of this expression, lol. I translated it as, “it slipped out of my damn mind.”

This was the first, and so far, the only appearance of the boy squad. As far as I know, this hasn’t been confirmed anywhere, but I believe this is the boy squad we will see in season 3, should we get that far. I believe Hugo is the Magnus expy, while Dilan is the Mahdi expy. Anyway, I am a big og boy squad fan, and I really liked the boys’ dynamics in this clip. I really, really enjoy that Lucas is so loud and talks over everyone. I don’t necessarily think this is a departure from Isak. In my opinion, he’s just in a good mood in this clip, for reasons that shall become clearer as the season unfolds. He’s definitely more low-key in clip 1.

CLIP 3: Ye olde bait-and-switch

Already covered the stuff about Baccalaureate tracks. Lara transferred to this high school because they offer the Arts track, which was not offered at the school where she did Mandatory Secondary Education.

“Delegado de clase” is a concept I translated as class president, although I’ve seen other fansubs that use “delegate.” I initially wanted to use class representative, but it seemed like class president is more understandable to English speakers. I’ll go into a little more detail about this role: in Spanish schools, students are assigned to groups of about 30 kids, which remain more or less stable through every class period. We’re already familiar with this through og Skam, where Even says to Isak that he’s in 3STB. In Skam España, a character would say they are in 1ºA. 1º means first, and 2º means second. A would be the letter assigned to that specific group. Lara and other students in the Arts track will take different courses, but join the bigger group for most courses. This is the reason Lara only meets Eva at 11:30, rather than in first period.

Anyway! Unlike the United States, where the Sophomore class president will represent all Sophomores, class presidents or “delegados” only represent the lettered group they belong to. These class presidents act as a go-between students and teachers/the school. As Lucas and Lara explain, this is a job most Spanish students would rather not deal with. However, if there are two or more people in the running, it becomes a popularity contest. Therefore, if someone has a history of being an outcast at school, they might run on purpose for validation.

“Marrón” and the superlative form “marronazo” literally mean “brown” or “big brown.” I kind of suspect this word might have its origin in the color of poop, because of course. That said, a “marrón” is something annoying that you have to deal with. Hence, pain in the ass.

CLIP 4: Eva’s mom is at the hospital

I’m checking the subbed episode now, so I’m seeing some of the finetuning I did when we went from subbing clips to subbing full episodes didn’t make it to the final edit. I’ll deal with that at some point.

Anyway. Eva’s mom is most likely a doctor or a nurse. The literal translation of what she says would be, “I’m going to the hospital!” Of course, that line, as is, in English, would come across as hugely alarming, lol. The translation I eventually decided on was, “I’m going for a shift at the hospital!”

When Eva’s mom says she sees that Eva is online, she means that she can see Eva is online on Whatsapp. That means that Eva’s mom is also checking Whatsapp as she’s going out the door!

CLIP 5: Russefeiring a la española

Viri is an INCREDIBLY weird way of shortening the name Elvira. Spanish people are more likely to shorten names by using the first couple syllables in a name, not the last two. For a long while, fans were stumped as to what was Viri’s full name. Some of the guesses were Virginia and Viridiana.

That said, it’s not surprising that Viri prefers to have a cute nickname. Elvira would sound fairly plain to a teenager’s ears.

This is as good a moment as any to deal with the “tío/tía” stuff. Translated literally, “tío” and “tía” mean uncle and aunt. We definitely use these words to refer to our actual uncles and aunts, too. But we also, consistently and across all age groups, use them to address or refer to literally anyone. “Tío” and “tía” are fairly casual, so you’ll generally want to be peers to address someone as such, but in conversation with someone else, a Spanish person will refer to any one person as “tío” or “tía.” It can be your best friend. It can be someone you just met. It can be your teacher. It can be your boss. It can be the prime minister. It can be your mailman.

I have opted to translate the instances of “tío” and “tía” as (the, to me, gender neutral) dude, for the most part. So Jorge can call Eva dude, and it’s just a friendly way of addressing her, no other connotations. That said, there are instances where I’ve preferred to translate “tía” as girl, such as when Viri tells Lara that there are a lot of things she wants people to get involved in. I feel that there’s a nuance to that “tía” in which Viri is trying to come across as open and friendly to Lara, in a way that is specific to women wanting to be friends with other women. So, for that particular instance, I chose girl. In general, if the subs say “girl,” but you’re clearly hearing “tía,” it means that there’s a specific nuance to the dialogue that makes it relevant that the person addressed or being talked about is a woman. Otherwise, it’s dudes straight down the line.

Eva doesn’t mind being late to Maths. Slacker.

As Viri has noted, she too is a new transfer to the school. Meanwhile, it seems like Cris has gone to this school for years. At least, she seems to have her own circle of friends/acquaintances.

Class trip as substitute for russefeiring. In Spain, my experience has been that class trips are organized by the school, for all the students in a specific grade. They have designated victims, a.k.a. teachers, who travel with the students and are responsible for the well-being of hormone-ridden semi-domesticated teenage forces of nature. These trips have a set price per student, which the parents pay for. That said, the school will organize fundraising events, so that the price per student is lowered. These trips are not mandatory, students sign up for them. In my case, I went to Mallorca on a class trip when I was 14. By the time I got to Baccalaureate, neither I nor my friends were very interested in hanging out with people from our year, so we didn’t sign up.

In the universe of Skam España, it looks like students can’t give two fucks about class trips, and so the school has ceased organizing them. Therefore, Viri has taken it upon herself to organize a class trip, whatever it takes. I don’t REALLY mind it, but it’s definitely not how class trips work in Spain. I’m not sure to what extent parents would be comfortable having their school aged kids go off on their own somewhere. I will write more about this when we get to the meeting clips, though.

#skam españa #skam spain #skamesp #skames #culture and translation #have i missed any tag

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queencassiopeia6 · 4 years

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Take me back to the night we met

I had some big plans for that Thursday morning. I washed up, did my make up, straightened my hair and “casually dressed up”. My friend (let’s call her O) who had been out the country for the first time was coming home around midday, and I was rsponsible for picking her up. Well her boyfriend (let’s call him A) and I, but we weren’t well acquainted at that moment, we knew who we were, but not well at all, let’s just say that we knew what the other one looked like. I thought I had done a rather good job and looking nice that morning and with a smile I locked up the apartment, while stuffing my ear buds in, blasting my fave playlist and loading my new sunglasses onto my nose. A few moments later I had one of the biggest brain farts ever, that day was a national holiday and I didn’t check the bus schedule nor the route changes. I waited for almost 50 minutes at the bus stop before it hit me that I am going to be so late and it will be most embarassing, since I am supposed to be the responsible one in our friendship. When the bus finaly arrived I felt most relieved, all up until the conductor mentioned there is a route change due to roads being blocked off with the parade and the road will take much longer than usual. Was there a point travelling at all now? O might text me angrily while I am half way there and then it’s not much point driving further. I was beginning to sweat down the back of my neck. The slower the bus went, the more I breathed withmy mouth open, my lips went so chap (matte lipstick wasn’t any help either) that I began to gasp at some points. Thank God I am most always prepared for just about any disaster and had my giant water bottle with me, my chapstick and the wrist bands that I spin when I begin to panic. Which wasn’t all necessary since the moment we hit the highway - we jumped to hyperspace like the trusty Millennium Falcon. I got there with quite some time before her flight even landed and oh boy was I extatic no one saw my epic failure.

At first I didn’t wanna catch up with A, I am no good at akward conversations, and since him and I only hung out a few times prior to that day and she was always there to handle most of the conversation - you could see why I wasn’t all too keen on looking for him in the Arrival Zone. “O’s my friend, and they’ve been together for a while now, I gotta give this my best shot, for her sake”, that’s all that was repeatedly going on inside my head as I looked for a lanky blond fella. Spotted, looking just as elegant as ever and with a giant bouqet - damn my girl has some decent taste. Surprisingly A looked insanely relieved to see me, he left his seat to run up and give me a hug (almost took my head off while at it), I immediately felt better, his opening move gave me the reassurance that great minds think alike and that he too would like to have less space between us as friends. Turned out A’s been here for over an hour cause he’s just as tardy as our mutual target and was worried so much that he’s gonna be late to pick her up that he left the house hours in advance! Laughing about A’s mini nervous breakdown blew all the awkwardness that was ever there right out the window. The time flew right by, and before we knew it - O stepped out the gates and handed her suitcases over to us. After we exchanged pleasentries, we loaded into an Uber and drove to O’s place first (even though it’s the far far away of our town), which was actually a smart move since A began his work shift a few hours after that and he wanted to be manly and move everything from the cab to the apartment so we wouldn’t have to struggle with it later. While we unloaded, O quickly freshened upand oredred sushi to A’s work (which was our frequent stomping ground and we’ll call it LS) as we hopped back into the Uber to take him there to work and us to chill and catch up.

O and I had a lovely time smoking some excellent sheesha that A made us and munching on sushi as we talked about her time abroad and all the crap I got myself into whilst she were away. A’s coworker sat down with us at one point as him and I got properly acquainted (as we used to be less acquainted like I were with A) and had a lovely chat about some strong flavored tobacco (that I to this day can not handle). There was a booking on our table coming up and O offered we visit another place (Let’s call it LBB), where her frenemy (let’s call her M and they’re frenemies cause they dated the same dude at one point) worked, since O promised to stop by and if I were okay with it - we could chill there for the rest of the day. I didn’t have any plans that day not any clue to anything better to do, so we oredred another Uber and away we went. There was a small group of friends already there, all friends-of-friends and most were more that well acquainted with O. I met a funny but rather dramatic friend of Ms (let’s call her L) and their coworker, an eccentric young man (we’ll call him D). M immediately got my insta and followed me. The rest of the night was a tad of a blur, there was so much smoke, more sushi and loud laughter along with some intense personal stories travelling among the five of us. I too shared my recent ridiculous failure which brought much joy to everyone as not everyday you meet a 26 year old linguist with a kid of her own who just a fortnight ago fell off a scooter and is now a proud owner of a blue arm (just a wide haematoma) “which doesn’t hurt” but looks scary so I promised that tomorrow morning I will go and see a doctor (which yes I had not yet done, how irresponsible of me).

The next day, after my usual shift (from 8 to 2) I washed up, dressed up and went on a lovely sunny walk to the nearest Physical ER. Turned out the the place I was looking for was just a block down from LBB and I even thought about popping in to say hi, but as I waited in line to see a physician, thoughts about seeming clingy and being unwelcomed ate me up and I figured to better not show up uninvited. To be honest, this isn’t all that important to the story but I think it’s a quirky moment so Imma tell it anyway. The doc sent me to get an xray, explained to me that there must have been an air bubble or something that went inbetween my arm and shoulder socket when I blasted to the ground, and that’s why it were sore when I did certain hand movements. Also it turned out my elbow (which I had broken more than once while still young) had been twisted and that the haematoma was due to bone being shifted. He was shocked that I didn’t come to see him earlier. Offered me a cast, which I refused due to me not being able to do anything with it on. He put my arm back in place, prescribed me a bunch of drugs and told me to take it easy. I decided to walk the 8 blocks home since it was such a lovely evening. The sun was still high and shinning, it was nice and warn out and a fresh spring breeze was tangling my hair. Blasted some music and enjoyed an evening stroll.

The moment I got home O called me, “Get dressed, I’m coming to pick you up, we’re going to LBB”. Bro, if you had mentioned that an hour ago, I could have already been there, waiting for you. So we went. D and M were working their shift there and I immediately noticed that I didn’t pay any attention to a thing D spoke of last night, it’s like my brain had ignored him completely. Turned out we came here today cause it was D’s last day due to him travelling home (next town over) and paying his military dues. The four of sat and smoked and chatted and shared such good laughs, I was asked repeatedly to tell more stories of how I am the literal queen of distress, all the trouble I had gotten myself into over the years (boy trouble included). I was on the top of my chat game that night, I made jokes and flirted and at one point made D go into a hysterical laughing fit (I saw legitimate tears in the mans eyes), which was a tad awkward for a moment, as he was sitting next to me on the couch and at one point just layed on my knees while laughing. O and M, sitting on the couch across the table from us had an evil smirk on their faces. They whispered something to each while D was getting himself back together and then pointed us at one another and said that we have to get together now. Apperantly no one had yet gotten me to be so open so soon, and no one had made him laugh as hard as I had, ever. We all laughed over it and as O and I packed up to go home, I got his follow notification on my insta, kind of made me blush. On the ride to my place O mentioned multiple times how we’re a well made match (hey, we’re both phsycho) and that I should hit him up. But I am not one to do so, I would more likely die from a panic attack, than message a cute boy (yes I said it - I thought he was rather handsome and I just didn’t notice it before cause as I said I payed no mind to him the previous night) first.

The following weekend shall be a tbc :)

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ringsofsaturn-heatofmars-blog · 5 years

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Thinking about Zhong Chenle on 7/25/19

Here’s a story for you.

I’m sure you all know what racism and cultural appropriation is. Yes? Okay. We’ve got that out of the way.

Do you know when it’s silly and unjust to make claims about it? Because some people don’t.

Mars: NCT Dream's comeback... Did. You. See it?

Saturn: NO. I'M NOT READY. I'M TRYING TO POSTPONE IT BECAUSE I WANT TO LIVE!!!!! just spoiler a little so I know what waits for me......

Mars: Haechan being Haechan, not-so-baby Jisung, artist Renjun, boxer Jeno, vocalist Jaemin, and precious, smiley Chenle. bUT THEN ALSO- HOT CHENLE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, BECAUSE HE'S MY SON THAT I'VE WATCHED GROW UP SO MUCH. Also, people making a big deal out of Chenle's hair because the stylists decided to put it in a "scandal-worthy" hair style. 😒 Like- Chenle's not even out of his teens yet. Can you leave him alone? It's the same thing that happened to Chris (Stray Kids) a little while ago. It's ridiculous.

Saturn: .... don't. Touch. Chenle. Or I kill everyone. MY BABY IS UNTOUCHABLE. My god, people always find something to complain about. They can't enjoy anything. ANYTHING. I want to punch someone.

Mars: I know! It's terrible! It also feel so targeted, since he's a foreign member. Like- people! He doesn't have to prove himself to you. And even if he DID, he's earned his place ten times over!

Saturn: I swear, I activated "instant killer mood". First of all... IT'S JUST BRAIDS. B R A I D S. They ALWAYS do shit like this. Always. It's tiring and as you said, he doesn't have to prove anything.

Mars: I totally agree with you! They're b r a i d s. People shouldn't be so touchy with things like that! I think the first thing that people think is that it's "disrespectful" to the black race because it's a hairstyle that a lot of black people have, but I don’t see anything bad to try a hairstyle. As I said, it's not his choice what his hairstyle is, but even if it WAS, people couldn't stop him from having it! If he wanted it, he could have it. It's his body, not ours.

Saturn: I know black people have a lot of issues with this (not have the freedom to do their hair like they want) but fuck, it's just braids. At least once in a lifetime everyone just braid their hair... so THE WORLD IS FUCKED? I don't think so, it's just a hairstyle. Say it louder please, maybe others will understand. I'm so pissed because I know him, he'll feel guilty FOR NOTHING. babe, you're okay okay? You're perfect.

Mars: Exactly! I don't think it's something to get up-in-arms about. Like- Chenle wearing braids isn't him saying, "I think black people should be slaves again". It's JUST hair. When did the world become so petty as to care so much about a hairstyle? Style can be changed, but the impact you make on people's hearts with cruel words can't be changed. In the end, we're all just people. Flesh and bones. We all live, we all eat, we all drink, we all all breathe, we all die. We're just going about it at our own pace. But life is short, so I greatly pity people that use their short time on this planet to stir up trouble and make others feel bad.

Saturn: You have perfectly explained the point. I think it's the social medias fault and how generations have grown differently. Ignorance is the icing on the cake. They complain about a hairstyle but they don't talk about problems in Syria or that every 3 seconds a child gets sick of AIDS in Africa. I mean... I'm not saying that they should be political/environmental/etc activists (or if they are, it’s good! Trying to change the world is wonderful) but at least don't fake to be someone who cares about a race when maybe you're the first to see a POC and make racist remarks. Hypocrisy, I think this is the exact term to express contemporary society! Social media worsened the situation 'cause they give the courage to the rabbits to pretend to be lions and attack others without really putting their face on it.

Mars: I completely agree with you. The analogy at the end was perfect. "Rabbits trying to be lions". People are filled with bravado these days, and it would be so much better if people just took a step back and realized themselves. It's okay not to be super aggressive and into everyone's business. Focus on yourself, and maybe you'll find that you're a much nicer person than society makes you. People really do feed of of each other's energy, so I think it's a good goal to spread as many positive vibes as you possible can in your lifetime.

Saturn: Unfortunately, society inculcates ideas, ideals, situations that they consider right but that unfortunately are not. We live in a world of fiction where popularity is based on likes to a photo and not to the kindness that maybe someone showed to a needy lady. It's horrifying to see how static and cold we have become, don't you think? As you say we should all think about ourselves, improve ourselves and then see how the world improves as a result.

Now clearly, neither of us are black. Neither of us know what it’s like to be black, but we know what it’s like to be people. And guess what, all people go through some really bad crap at some point in their life. They go through death, pain and weakness in mind and body—we all feel pain, just the same; race, skin-color, culture or language set aside.

If someone speaks English and someone else speaks Japanese, that doesn’t make them less likely to connect as people. They could have loads in common. It just means that it takes a little more effort to understand, because there’s a certain barrier in the way. Language. But! That doesn’t stop the people, once they’ve come to understand each other a little more, from being friends.

I think we could all use that. A little more understanding. Not such a sudden hop, skip and jump to judge. It’s like the universe’s habit.

Now, it’s easy enough to bring up the past of slavery, and that’s true. That’s not going away, what has happened in the past. But guess what. As a Caucasian person, I don’t have slaves. My parents didn’t have slaves. My grandparents didn’t have slaves. My great-grandparents didn’t have slaves, and neither did my great-great-grandparents.

I’m a ballroom dancer, and a great percentage of my partners are black, and they’re lovely people that I adore dancing with, and they’ve never once held a grudge or said a bad word to me. We’re friends.

We’re all too stuck living in the past, and we keep pushing each other around because of it. We’re nothing better than playground bullies, and I hope there comes a point in time when we can stop.

I’m not doing this to sound preachy or pretend I know everything about the world. I’m just sharing the knowledge I have in my head and expressing my opinions. Whether or not I’m right or wrong is up to everyone else’s opinions.

Believe it or not, this whole thing—this whole rant—is just because I, and we, love, adore and appreciate Zhong Chenle of NCT Dream. See? Now that’s a connection.

~Rant by Mars

As for the situation of black people regarding their freedom to use a certain type of hairstyle, yes it makes me very angry. I know some girls with wonderful hair who have to ruin it with iron flats and products. It’s unfair, on this I agree perfectly with those who raise the issue.

I don’t agree, however, in attacking a person who has no say in what unfortunately must wear (or in this case the hairstyle). Anyone who has made negative comments, offending Chenle is equal to those who call a child with down syndrome an abominion or who insult a girl just because she may have a better job than his boyfriend.

The point is, Chenle is a Chinese guy in Korea. This is already a huge problem, because he found himself faced with a huge linguistic and cultural barrier to deal with in order to realize his dream. He fought hard to get that job. Sleepless nights, hours of practice, not being able to see his family, being alone. Now you will say "This has nothing to do with wearing cornrows, which like any hairstyle in the tribes represented a social status, since he isn’t a black person”.

It has something to do with it, you're just being racist.

Social, political, cultural racism. Racism lives in every single situation and unfortunately we are aware of it, but we don’t act on every situation that provides for it. How you insult white people who wears an African hairstyle (when black people are unable to do so) isn’t right. It would be right to insult the system. The system that has forced people with FREEDOM to be deprived of them.

Chenle is as deprived of freedom as a POC is deprived of wearing a hairstyle or is seen as a gangster just because of the color of her/his skin.

I'm Italian and those few times I've gone abroad the only thing I've heard is "Oh, the mafia!" As if my nationality was unavoidable by what crime has committed. But no one defended me. Why? Because I’m a Caucasian person. My skin is white. So I am untouchable to them and every offence is right? No. We live in a world where offenses have become free, where society imposes ideals and people must absolutely follow them, where people who think with their heads are labeled as "weird”.

We should be kind, honest and open-minded. We should offer our hand not to spit on the other. We should. It's scary, but at this rate we'll kill ourselves for a simple look instead of hugging each other.

- Rant By Saturn

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081: How to Negotiate Like a Pro w/ Kris Haskins

Kris Haskins is someone Jaren and I met this past year at a conference in LA called VidSummit.

We noticed him because he was wearing this jacket that said “I Buy Houses” on the back. As far as we could tell, he was the only other real estate person at this conference, so we got to know him a little bit and found he was a pretty cool guy.

Kris deals mostly with flipping, renovation, new construction, and raising private money, and in his videos, he takes you along for the ride and explains a lot of concepts in a way that is very easy to understand.

Another thing Kris is great at is negotiation… getting people to accept lower offers and putting together win-win transactions. This is something we don’t actually deal with much in the land flipping business because our offers are more of a “take-it-or-leave-it” thing, but when you’re dealing with houses, negotiation and communication are significantly more important (and really in most of life, negotiation skills can get you a long way).

In this interview, we’re going to talk about Kris’ secret sauce for negotiating and how he’s been able to make a great life for himself as a real estate investor.

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Facebook Ads Made Simple (Even Your Kids Can Do It)

The Real Estate Negotiating Bible (ebook) by Kris Haskins

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Ninja Negotiation Audio Recordings by Kris Haskins

Valuetainment YouTube Channel

Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki

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What is an Accredited Investor

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Episode 081 Transcription

Seth: Kris, welcome to the show. How are you doing?

Kris Haskins: What up, Seth? What up, Jaren?

Jaren: Hey man. I’m excited to have you on the show today.

Kris Haskins: Yes, it’s an honor.

Seth: Yeah. So just to kick this off, maybe you can tell us your backstory, like how did you get into real estate, and what made you decide to go down this road?

Kris Haskins: My backstory is I was in the music business, guys. Living a destructive lifestyle, after I graduated from college. Got fired, couldn’t keep a job. I got fired seven times throughout my life. And I’m like, you know what? I just can’t keep a job. So, when I started being a producer-engineer and got a few songs out after doing that for five years, I found out that it was a destructive lifestyle: travel and drink and drugs and sex and doing all the craziness that young people are perceived to do. I’m not saying that they all do it. I’ll never forget God passing around a plate of cocaine at a party. And then after that, I’m like, I gotta get out of here before it sucked me in. And so, I said, instead of living a destructive life, because we are at a publishing deal, we made several hundred thousand dollars.

And then I found myself on my friend’s couch, $80 in my pocket, wondering what happened to hundreds of thousands of dollars gone. I was a hit record producer, doing stuff, traveling now and just broke. I’m like, you know what? I need to learn something. That’s when God revealed to me real estate and the “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” book. And after that, man, I’m like, you know what? I need to focus my time on things that go up in value as opposed to things that go down in value.

Jaren: Wow, man. It’s awesome.

Kris Haskins: And that’s it. After that, I’m like, you know what? I’m doing the same thing. This time is on my side as opposed as the time being working against me. So, let’s do this.

Jaren: Love it.

Kris Haskins: So here we are.

Seth: Wow. That’s crazy, man.

Jaren: I don’t even know where to peel the onion back on that one, man. Like that was pretty heavy. So, what about “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” was so instrumental? Like you said, God used that “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” in real estate to really pivot you in a direction. And I hear that a lot, but I’m just curious because everybody talks about “Rich Dad, Poor Dad.” Specifically, what was like the key revelation that made it all turn around for you?

Kris Haskins: Yeah. I found that I finally understood that we make money on things that we own, not because of things that we do. When I finally understood that concept, I’m like, okay, I don’t have to do anything other than own the crap. And I got a check every month. How am I doing that? And I learned the concept. That book was like, I just became a fan and a student of doing things once and getting paid over and over and over again. The music is cool, but the problem with the music business, as it changes, it’s morphing from where I was at from the analog world. Now we’re in the streaming world. You can’t even buy a CD. I’m so glad I got out of that. But the concept, the model of the business, the music business, has changed so much. So, when I found out you could do something once and get paid over and over instead of sacrificing my time, man, I’m like, I didn’t even know people could do that.

Seth: Is it harder to make money in the music business these days or easier or has that changed in some way?

Kris Haskins: Well, Seth, it all depends on how you look at it. Just like real estate. Somebody comes to you and says, “Is it harder to do?” Like, it depends. If you’re focusing on that old business model, trying to get records like these with major record labels and waiting for them to write you a check and then do a publishing deal and all that stuff, yes. If you decide to do it on your own and publish it, because YouTube, I don’t know if you believe this or not, but YouTube is the new publishing. Every play we get paid, every second of the day. So, if you do the new entrepreneurial way, it’s unbelievable.

Seth: Yeah. That actually, sometimes it blows my mind to think about that. The fact that 20 years ago, there were very few people that had a voice. It’s like you had to be a major media outlet or a huge multinational corporation to have the masses hear you. Now it’s like people can Google the words “land investing” and find me on the first page of Google, which is insane. Who am I to have a voice? I try hard to put good information out there, but you couldn’t do this that long ago. So, I don’t know. It’s a pretty incredible thing.

Kris Haskins: That is cool. I think that’s why it’s so powerful. I think that’s why YouTube is so powerful too, because you can have not only a voice, but you can have a show like this and then just drop in. Imagine how many millions of dollars it took to make their old sitcoms, Seth. Dropping in ads. Now we just make a video, boom. Drop an ad. So, things are changing.

Jaren: And people don’t even watch mainline TV anymore. Jimmy Fallon and all those guys, they’re not starting to get on YouTube because all their ratings are dropping. I haven’t had cable probably in at least five years, man. If I have to guess.

Kris Haskins: Me neither.

Jaren: I don’t even watch Netflix. I just watch YouTube. That’s all the TV I watch.

Seth: Yeah. I just watched Disney Plus’ Donald Duck.

Jaren: This guy.

Seth: I’m only kind of kidding with that. Like I actually do watch a lot of Donald Duck these days with a three-year-old and a six-year-old. That’s like prime-time TV around here.

Jaren: Yeah. Mine is Cocomelon. Cause I got a six-month-old. He’s funny. He doesn’t like to watch cartoons. He likes to watch music. It has to have some kind of music component in it. Kris, what are the best parts of your real estate investing strategy and what are the worst part? Like let’s dive into a little bit of what you actually do. And before we started recording, you said that you do new builds and you do flips and you do a lot of stuff. What’s kind of your favorite strategy, your kind of default?

Kris Haskins: Default strategy. So many of them. I like to buy subject to where we take over the mortgage payments. I’m a long-term guy now, but we still do flips in new construction. I call it that’s the sexy part. And I’m sure you guys already know wealth is just so boring. Like if I were to take a picture of me collected randomly, you’re like, get out of here. It’s weird. Because that’s the best part, right?

Seth: Yeah.

Jaren: That’s exactly how I feel about land because you’ll never see a land flipping show on HGTV because it’s just boring. Like what are you going to do? You’re going to like, have an episode of me like, sitting on my laptop, looking at a spreadsheet and be like, yeah, I’m going to offer 35 cents on the dollar on this property. It’s boring. Most people don’t even really consider it a strategy. Like they’re like, yeah, that’s so like you can buy dirt and then just turn around and sell it? But that’s the benefit of that strategy.

Kris Haskins: The big money stuff is boring.

Jaren: The boring factor, it keeps a lot of people.

Seth: Yeah. That’s okay though.

Jaren: Yeah, it works out.

Kris Haskins: He said, well, babe, I enjoy this league. We do tenant lease options. I love where I own my own stuff. I might buy and sell the same house Jaren three times in a year. I don’t mind doing that because we’re getting a down payment. And then on my flip side, we are raising a ton of private money so we can buy anything we want right now as long as the numbers work. I think where the paradigm shift for me changed was when I found out I didn’t have to get on my knees and beg the bank for a loan. When I got that one, I cracked that net. I’m like, you know what? Let me clean my knees off. So now we raise money. We can buy anything based on paying ordinary people a percentage rate for investing with us.

Jaren: That’s awesome, man.

Seth: How does that work with raising money? Who are you talking to? What are they getting out of it? Explain those pieces for us.

Kris Haskins: Yeah. That’s a good question, Seth. Well, the thing is, it’s so weird. The less you need money, I don’t know why the universe works like this. People will give it to you more. So, when I needed it back in the day, nobody didn’t want to give me none.

Jaren: That’s funny.

Kris Haskins: I don’t know if that’s the saying for you.

Seth: Bob Hope was saying, “A bank is a place that will lend you money if you can prove that you don’t need it.” That’s kind of what it boils down to, sort of.

Kris Haskins: That is true. So, we deal with grandma and pop generally speaking, or some younger people. I’ve got one guy who gave me $50,000. Some people give us $100,000. So, they’re interested in getting a high rate of return with low risk. I don’t like risk. You say the house is worth $300,000. I’m just thinking about the one we bought this week. It’s worth low threes. We bought it for two and I was able to raise that $200,000 literally. I mean, you send out an email and a text to these people because we have credibility from doing a million deals over time. So, they just wire the money to closing. And the good thing about it is we don’t touch the money. It goes right to the escrow company or the attorney. They close it out. They are at the back and they get an APR and they’re happy.

Jaren: Yeah. That’s awesome. What do your terms look like?

Kris Haskins: Yeah, generally speaking, we pay our lenders anywhere from 7% to 8%.

Jaren: Awesome.

Kris Haskins: APR. And we have that accruing. Years ago, I got tired of mailing our payments every month. I’m like, you know what? It doesn’t matter if they get a payment this month or that we just hoped to pay them when we sell the house. Does it even matter?

Seth: Do they have to be accredited investors or anything like that or not really? Just anybody that has money can throw at you.

Kris Haskins: They can. I think there’s a certain dollar amount. I don’t know what it is. I think it’s a million. Accredited has a definition.

Seth: Yeah, you got to have a net worth excluding your personal residence of a million or you have to have an annual income of $200,000 as a single person, $300,000 as a married couple. But do they have to be that or not to work with you?

Kris Haskins: No. I don’t have any accredited. I don’t even know if I hang out with people that have a net worth of that in my circle.

Seth: I don’t either, when you come to think of it.

Jaren: I think the legal ease of that though is you just have to have an existing relationship with them. Kris isn’t going out on LinkedIn or on Facebook being like, “Hey, come invest your money with me,” because that’s where you get into legal trouble. If you met somebody at a networking event or through a friend of a friend and they came and they met you and you have an existing relationship, that’s where it’s okay to do it.

Seth: If you ever have a deal where you lose money or I don’t know the profit, maybe that never happens. But if it does, do these people just kind of have to take it on the chin on that deal and hope for better the next time? Or what happens in that case?

Kris Haskins: Here’s the thing I remember before I had any private money, right guys, I’m like, I told the universe and God. I’m like, you know what? If I ever meet some people that will invest with me, I am going to treat their money with utmost respect. I am going to make sure that we pay back every penny we borrow, I’m going to make sure that their loan to value is so low, that if anything happens, they are good. I just beat that into my head, “If I find these people.” This was years ago. If I get these people to invest with me, I’m going to treat their money better than mine. So, every deal we do, I put some cash in it, Seth. I want to make sure that if I get struck by lightning, they can liquidate. I’m bringing some of my cash in here and they don’t even care if I do, they want to lend more, but I want to make sure that they’re completely insulated against any loss.

So, if I bring the money to the deal, that makes it even lower. But yes, that is a possibility. And I will tell you, if you have a private lender, it’s not like a bank. Say your lender was going to make $10,000 for that deal. Did you know it’s okay to ask the lender if they will take $8,000? It’s not against the constitution to do that. So, whatever the scenario is, right? I know I owe you $10,000 Ms. Smith, but would you take $8,500 just for this one so we can kind of move on to the next one? I have never had a lender tell me “No.”

Seth: Really? Interesting.

Kris Haskins: They never tell me “No.” They’re like, you know what? “Thank you.”

Jaren: I can understand that from a private money investor standpoint a little bit. Because it’s like if they were taking their retirement account and throwing it in stocks, like there are quarters and there are situations where they’re going to take a loss in their portfolio. It’s going to go up and down, up and down. And so, if you frame it that way, when you explain it to them, like, look, sometimes bad deals are going to happen. And we just cut our losses and we just turn it over six months, over a year, you’re going to make money because I’m in this to make money. And if you have a track record, I think that could be a pretty easy sell. It makes sense to me.

Kris Haskins: Well, I don’t want to discourage your listeners for thinking that they have to have it existing. I’m not an expert in the ACC and all these rules, but the term existing relationship, I think that is being challenged by social media, Jaren. I think in the past relationship, I think that definition is changing. That’s all.

Seth: That’s some gray area.

Jaren: Yeah. I’ve talked to some attorneys and some guys that do apartment syndications, I work with accredited guys and they all say like, it’s a very loose definition of what an existing relationship is. I got to say, guys, we’re not giving any legal advice. So, don’t believe anything we’re saying. We’re not an attorney.

Seth: One thing I wanted to get into here, because this is something that I don’t know that I’m like an expert at this at all, because I don’t have to do a ton of this as a land investor or the types of real estate that I go after. But when it comes to negotiation, I know this is something you’ve sort of had to develop some mastery at. Particularly when you’re talking to a motivated seller and you’re trying to get on the same page and get them to accept a deeply discounted offer. How do you do that? How do you convince a person? Is it more important just to be talking to the right person in the first place so you don’t have to fight that battle? Or is there some trickery you use or mind games to get the person to become okay? I’m sorry. I’m taking it to extremes here.

Kris Haskins: The positive word is called neuro-linguistic programming. Good gracious. You talk like I’m stealing grandma’s house.

Jaren: A.k.a. manipulation. Tell me about it. Tell me about NLP.

Kris Haskins: Yeah. Well, let me tell you this. This is the reason I wrote this book, “The Real Estate Negotiating Bible,” to be honest with you. There was nothing that existed when I was coming up through the ranks. I’m like, how in the hell do I learn how to negotiate? Every book I bought was about a real tour or homeowner trying to negotiate a good deal to move into an owner arc, right? I just want to be what I want to see in the community. So that’s what we did.

At the end of the day, building rapport is huge, but you have to identify that problem. Why? And I’m sure it’s the same with plan. Why are you selling this thing? The major reason? Why are you selling? Because if your reason for selling isn’t big enough, I can’t convince you to do nothing. Ask my wife. She doesn’t do nothing that you ask her to do. It’s weird. I can get people to sell me, do all types of stuff, I can’t get my wife to make me a sandwich.

Jaren: That’s hilarious.

Kris Haskins: If you think about videos on YouTube are good. If you would see what happens in this house, I would probably have a show on it.

Jaren: Dive into that for us for a minute. Like, let’s run through a scenario if there’s like, an actual real example that you’ve thought of recently where let’s say, you got to lead and the person’s not super interested, or maybe they are interested, but they’re hesitant working with you. Let’s go this route. Let’s say they talk to you and they’re apprehensive to see if you’re actually legit or not because they got a letter from you in the mail. And they’re like, I don’t know if this is a scam or whatever. How do you gain trust and how do you get the deal?

Kris Haskins: I want to be transparent. That very rarely happens today as it used to be in the past. How old are you, Jaren?

Jaren: 29.

Kris Haskins: Okay. You’re still a young guy. We have a huge digital footprint. So now when I show up or if I have any interaction with the deal, they already love me, man. And it’s not because of me personally, it’s just because they can click a button.

Jaren: It’s because of the branding.

Kris Haskins: The digital footprint. Dude, when you show up, they just want to give you a hug.

Seth: Do they know you through Real Estate Roundup or something else? Like you have a separate website with a video and they get to know you that way. How is it that the people know who you are?

Kris Haskins: Just with the digital footprint. They’ll see me with my kids. They always type your name in, right? They want to know who you are.

Seth: I got you.

Jaren: Right.

Kris Haskins: When you get there, you’re the dad, husband. They love you. If you have the right digital footprint on the internet, it’s just unavoidable.

Seth: So, they’re googling “Kris Haskins” and they find something that you put out there and they feel like they kind of know you already before you show up.

Kris Haskins: Oh, yeah. That’s huge for us.

Seth: Interesting.

Jaren: So, what about back in the day though? Like before you had a big digital footprint?

Kris Haskins: Yeah. That could be challenging. I have something called a credibility kit. Whenever I show up, I’ve got a bunch of referrals. I never make an offer without a stack of referrals. Like we bought this house there, because you got to make yourself seem legit, but it can be challenging getting over that hump.

Seth: And referrals, it’s just like a letter or something? Or what does that mean exactly?

Kris Haskins: Yeah. I’ve got them right here. So, these are just people that we’ve bought houses from. They’d say they love you, we take a picture with them.

Seth: Oh, cool.

Kris Haskins: I leave a place where they can write something at the bottom down there.

Seth: Gotcha.

Jaren: That’s awesome.

Seth: And people are okay doing that? They’re just, “Yeah, take a picture of me and use me for the future?”

Kris Haskins: Not everybody. Some people just, they’ll do one of these. I’ll type it up and then they’ll write something at the bottom.

Seth: Cool.

Kris Haskins: You got to have some type of credibility. Jaren, I don’t know if I’m going in the right direction with what we were talking about negotiation.

Jaren: This is helpful. Yeah.

Seth: What other stuff would be in that credibility kit? Is that pretty much it? Or is there other stuff if you’re a totally unknown person to them that would very quickly get them comfortable with you?

Kris Haskins: You’re unknown. I always, always include a picture of my family when you make an offer. So, family man, you can’t be such a bum. You got a wife and kids, right? You’re doing something right.

Jaren: It’s funny you say that because I actually do that with my direct mail stuff and not a lot of people on land do it. And a lot of our coaching clients, I encourage them. I say, hey, if you’re comfortable, some people aren’t. Because they’re like, more private and all that. And I get it. But I tell them if you can put your picture on there and put a picture of you and your wife, because that’s going to make you substantially stand out. If somebody gets a letter and it’s just the same generic letter that all the other investors are using. And then yours has your picture on it, you’re going to substantially stand out. And they’re like, “Oh, this is a real person.”

Seth: If a person doesn’t have a family, say they’re a single person. Do they take a picture with their fish or something?

Kris Haskins: They are in trouble.

Jaren: Their dog.

Seth: You should just give up right now.

Kris Haskins: Maybe the dog, aunt, grandma. I don’t know. a picture.

Jaren: Grandma would work. That would be cute – “This is my grandma. She helps me buy houses.”

Seth: Picture with your probation officer or something?

Kris Haskins: You’re in trouble.

Seth: Anything else in the credibility kit?

Kris Haskins: This letter of intent, picture, referrals, man. I love it. I’m like, you know what? I always preface it by listening. You don’t know who I am. You don’t know what I can do. This is before. Here are other people we have served in the community. And if you’ve never bought a house, I know some of your viewers, your listeners may not have ever bought a house, just get a referral from a friend or family. Just say, “Kris is great. He is a man of his word.” A lot of my clients went into this. You never bought a house, right? Kris is great, man of his word, shows up on time. He does what he says. Little things. You would be surprised how many people just don’t have any referrals.

Seth: Yeah. I could see that going along the way. Circling back to the situation you’re talking about today with your digital footprint. Do you know specifically what people are seeing? Did you put a website out there specifically for this purpose? Or are they are finding your Facebook profile or any idea?

Jaren: Or YouTube channel?

Seth: Yeah. Like what exactly is making them comfortable?

Kris Haskins: Yeah. All of it. Here’s the thing. I don’t know if you’re familiar with Valuetainment at all.

Seth: I don’t know that I am. What is that?

Kris Haskins: They are a huge YouTube channel and they got 200 million views. It’s just large. So, I was able to hang out with the owner a few weeks back and he was saying how important your digital footprint is. You have to make your message known or somebody else is going to do it. It’s just going to pop up – “That Seth, he is so and so. Took my money. I sold my land to him.”

Jaren: That’s like Seth’s worth nightmare.

Seth: Yes, it is. I will lose sleep about that sometimes.

Jaren: Yeah. We go to great lengths to make sure that our reputation is intact, man. We really want to make sure that people, when they come to RETipster, they’re coming to something different.

Seth: The crazy thing about that, I mean, to obsess about it, I’m sure helps somehow. But even then, like you still can’t control it. If somebody decides to go off on you, it’s totally out of my hands. I think that this kind of practice knowing how to get your message out there to drown out other negative voices if they’re there, I can go along. And hopefully there just aren’t any but if there ever were…

Kris Haskins: That’s true. That’s exactly right. You got to print the footprint on all of it. I don’t know if you’re familiar with Russell Brunson, but he says, you’ve got to have an attractive character.

Jaren: I ran on Russell Brunson.

Kris Haskins: And so, I’m like, I’m your attractive character. And it’s not nothing personal, dude. This is just business principles, Jaren. I mean, you have to have an attractive character in every business, just like you guys.

Jaren: It has to be real. It has to be out there. Like you actually have to be like the guy. You can’t be like some fakery stuff. You’ll get found out. But I want to go back to NLP because I’ve always been really interested in neuro-linguistic programming. And do you have a lot of training in that, a lot of background in that? Has that helped you a lot in your negotiations?

Kris Haskins: It’s not like I’m a master. I mean I’m just reading a million books. I got one. I keep one right here. William Ury and all these negotiating books he’s got. “Getting to Yes” and a whole bunch of.

Jaren: For our listeners that might not know what an NLP is, do you want to give a Cliff Notes version?

Kris Haskins: Neuro-linguistic programming.

Seth: Sum it up into one word.

Jaren: Go. Right now.

Kris Haskins: I wish my wife would let me use it. She has seen me do it to people. So, it’s getting them to do something that they ordinarily wouldn’t do. You were there kind of pushing them along a little bit. That’s all.

Seth: Okay.

Jaren: Are you getting that to like do a life example? Like convinced me to go work out tonight or something?

Kris Haskins: Well, we could give it a shot. It’s just a pain. I mean, in the Negotiating Bible, it’s unfortunate, but the pain that once you have that little cut, I took my training with HomeVestors. Are you familiar with the Ugly House guys?

Jaren: Yeah.

Kris Haskins: They have guys, some masters. Dude, when I was in Dallas, I hung out with some freaking master negotiators. These dudes, man, they’ve been around since the 80s, watching them in action pain. You get that little cut. You’ve got to take the knife, turn the knife ever so gently. You have to be very empathetic with that. You don’t want to overdo it. So, getting you to the gym? Yeah. We could try.

Jaren: All right, let’s do it.

Kris Haskins: I have to find out what you can tell me about your kids for us. I know you’ve got some beautiful children, Jaren.

Kris Haskins: I do. I have a son who is 16 months old and then another son on the way. I found out that we’re having a boy. Did you know that Seth? We’re having a boy.

Seth: I didn’t. I knew you were having a kid, but not a boy. So, congrats.

Jaren: Yeah, we are having a boy.

Seth: That’s awesome, man.

Kris Haskins: Congratulations.

Jaren: Yeah. It’s exciting.

Kris Haskins: I’m sure you want your son to be here well until your older ages, right?

Jaren: Yeah.

Kris Haskins: Yeah. So, we try to kind of eat healthy. Do you think going to the gym will extend your life or would cut it short?

Jaren: I don’t know, man. I feel like if I go to the gym, I’m going to like, curl up in a ball and start crying. Because I’m like so stressed out of my life right now. But I’d have that extra pressure, I’m going to cry. But the truth is I need it. I know I need to work out. I know I need to eat healthy, but it’s just so overwhelming.

Kris Haskins: It can be overwhelming. It can be overwhelming. That’s why I keep, Jaren, a gym bag right by the front door. It’s something called an on ramp that we do use. Right? I don’t know if you have any on ramps in the house. So, when I walked by that front door, the bag is, “Come get me, come get me.” In the morning I get up, the bags, they’re waiting for me. Do you think having a bag by your front door might help you? The gym bag with your clothes and your shoes?

Jaren: Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. You know what I think it is, man? I just need to want it bad enough. I really want to be in shape, but I like the taste of fried chicken, chicken wings. I’ve been on this kick where it’s been like Buffalo Wild Wings and beer. It’s been terrible.

Kris Haskins: That stuff tastes good.

Jaren: It does. All my family members, they’re all having health problems. My brother needs like, some surgery on his thyroid and everybody’s having all of these kinds of health issues. And I know it’s a ticking time bomb. I know one day I’m going to have a reckoning, but it’s not today. So, I go get myself some Buffalo Wild Wings and I feel bad while I’m eating my chicken. I sit there.

Kris Haskins: Listen to this, Seth. I don’t know if I could push you. I want you to think about the future and with the children. I would love to kind of hang out with you in about 10 years. If you don’t go to the gym, do you see your future any differently hanging out with your kids? My only pain point I can do is with kids. That’s all I got on you right now as I’m processing.

Jaren: You know what it is, man? What eats at me when it comes to my health and my fitness, I know that influence requires me to look a certain way. Influence really drives me. I know that if I ever want to rock a stage, like actually be like a motivational speaker, I can’t do it fat. It’s not going to happen. I can, and my delivery will be like, okay, but I’m going to go work out right now. I’m going to go work out. Because I got to go like do a run or something, man. Because for me, that’s the motivation. I’m not going to tap into my full potential unless I lose weight.

Jaren: Gotcha. So, I needed to take all the conversation off the kids and onto the future. Sounds like you’re entrepreneurial driven as opposed to family driven. And I’m not saying that you don’t have that, but it’s hierarchy.

Jaren: My major driver in life is impact and influence. And I want to like, impact people. I want to make a difference. That’s my driver.

Seth: One thing I’m just noticing there is that Jaren almost kind of just convinced himself there. All Kris was doing, he was just asking questions. Kris wasn’t saying it’s a problem. He’s not saying, “Jaren, you got a problem. You’re in trouble.” He is just asking questions. Granted, that was a fake scenario. So maybe that’s not a hundred percent real. But I think that’s actually the sign of a skilled negotiator is that what this Socratic teaching where it’s like, you ask questions that prompt a person to answer it themselves.

Kris Haskins: Oh, man. I love the questions, man.

Jaren: This is really good stuff. This is like a master class. I love this. This is really good.

Kris Haskins: Questions. I love it. I wish I could marry questions, man, because people just don’t ask enough. I sit down with people. They don’t ask me. I’m like you asked me for a meeting, you don’t ask me questions, I’m gone.

Jaren: Yeah. It’s funny that they’ll sit down and then they’ll just talk for like 40 minutes and tell you all about everything.

Kris Haskins: And no questions asked. When I met with Patrick Bet-David, the guy who owns Valuetainment, I took 40 hours. He told me he takes 20 hours before he meets with his attorney. So, I’m like, I took 40 hours before I met him. I had pages of questions for the dude. I think that’s what winners do though.

Seth: Come prepared. Yeah.

Jaren: That’s interesting. So really what you’re trying to do with NLP is you’re trying to find their driver and through asking strategic questions and through relationships and you have to be settled because you can’t spook them. The minute they feel like you’re manipulating them or you’re trying to pull something over them, then you lost them. You got to establish trust, be kind, be patient. And then when you find their driver, then you leverage that driver towards the end desire that you’re trying to get them to do towards the sale or what have you.

Seth: Now, how does that work? Is there ever a point where you just kind of give up? Like you stop trying to convince or even ask questions to get somebody to take your offer because they’re not the right person, they’re never going to say…

Jaren: Yeah, he said that about his wife.

Seth: There you go. So that’s one example.

Kris Haskins: We still could do that. Yeah.

Seth: How do you know when you’re dealing with somebody who will or won’t consider an offer, that’s going to work for you? Like when do you just cut it and say, “Nope, not working. Talk to you later.” Because for me, that’s what I do immediately. If somebody doesn’t say “yes” I’m like, “Okay, see ya, you’ll be back, but we’re done now.” I’m assuming that’s not how you work. How far do you push it? And what are your telltale signs that we’re not going to come together on this?

Kris Haskins: Well, I feel like I’m preaching to the choir. Time and circumstances will change every seller, right? If you say, no, it just means not right now. But I always leave with the one question, “Ms. Smith, if you don’t sell this thing, what are you going to do? What are you going to do?” That’s the key. If they say, “Well, you know what I should? I should just keep it forever.” If they say “I’ll just rent it out.” Then you can kind of tell I’m looking for, “I don’t know what I’m going to do if I don’t sell this thing.” If you don’t get $80,000, what are you going to do? Well, I’ll lower it to $60,000.

So, it all depends on what their rebuttal is for that. But yeah, a lot of times we don’t get them on the first try. I very rarely just go out there, get a contract, and come back. It takes time. We’ll call it the slow dance. Usually, they say no, but then we always give them something in writing so they can go home. Nowadays you gotta have something in writing.

Seth: Yeah. If somebody starts off the conversation or early on, they sort of very confidently state what they think the property is worth and it’s really high. Whatever rationale they’re using for that, whether it’s an appraisal or assessed value or the house next door or whatever, is that something you should be discouraged by? Or should that number mean anything to you? How do you get to the bottom of what role that number plays in your conversation or do you just completely ignore it? And if you do ignore it, how do you get them to realize “No, your numbers are actually totally wrong and here’s why. Here’s a lower number that’s more realistic.” How does that conversation look?

Kris Haskins: It can be challenging depending on where that valuation came from. Generally speaking, they don’t have an appraisal, they have the assessed value and I love it. I love it. When they say it’s worth, I’ve yet to meet the seller that says, you know what? I don’t want top dollar for my house. I want you to buy it at a discount. When you show up at the door, right. It doesn’t happen. So, it is our job and our responsibility, our obligation to paint the picture for them, Seth, as you were saying. So yes, I always agree. Whatever they say, I’m always like you’re right. If I know it’s worth $50,000 and they say it’s worth $200,000, “Ms. Smith, you know what? You have the full right to believe your house is worth whatever you want it to be. I mean, you are absolutely right. I can’t deny that. And in fixed upstate Ms. Smith, you know what? Probably it could be worth that. It might be.”

So, as long as I’m just agreeing with them, I’m just stroking their ego, as we’re going through, then I would bring up the repairs, cost to sell, all that stuff that’s going to chop it down. But we always agree Seth, man.

Jaren: Because that’s how you establish trust. That’s really interesting.

Kris Haskins: There you go. “You’re right. Ms. Smith, sure. At the district it could be worth $200,000.” Then I kind of go down with that one. I’ve never caught them off though.

Seth: Those next steps of bringing up the repairs and cost of selling and stuff like that, are you just sort of in passing when you’re talking to them like, “Oh, it looks like that roof’s going to be $10,000 to replace that.” And you sort of just make subtle mentions of that so they can hear it. Or I don’t know, how do you introduce those numbers in the conversation so that it means something to them and they can sort of come to terms?

Kris Haskins: I love it. It’s exactly why I wrote this book. This is exactly why I wrote this book, Seth.

Seth: By the way, I’d be linking to that book in the show notes at RETipster.com/81. Just so you’re aware.

Kris Haskins: Man, you talking, Seth. I love it. Well, when people say the repairs, I never just say, “Well, what about this? What about that?” I always once again, I’m going back to my questions. Your questions are your secret weapons. They are just your bullets in the gun, right? Ms. Smith, what do you think it would take to do that roof? How much do you think it would take? What’d you think of the bag? I always ask them what they think because it’s irrelevant. Like I’m so irrelevant in this. I’m there just to kind of stroke them on. Because I love it when they give me these small offers, I just love it because I know they’re going to say, “The roof? That’s $2,000. The central heating and air? I’ve got a guy that can do that for $1,500.”

And I just love it, man, because I know that I’m like Colombo. I’m like, “You know what? I’m so glad you have somebody to do that.” I pull out my phone. I just wanted to get that guy’s phone number so he could do that because I’m going to claim this house. I’m going to do this deal. Would you mind if I could hire your guy when I buy it and we’ll give you what you want and he can do that work for us that cheap. Because my guys are going to be three times that. So, I’ll leave it there and then I let them. They can’t answer that one. Generally, they can’t even come back. So yeah, that’s how we beat them. Not beat them. That’s how we are able to negotiate the number down. No way in hell you can get this stuff done for the prices that they usually say.

Jaren: Very interesting.

Seth: Yeah. Some people might like when you were mentioned earlier, the idea is to twist the knife, just get a little bit of blood, kind of thing. Like some people might hear that and think this is manipulative, this is evil and wrong.

Kris Haskins: My wife is one of them. Go ahead.

Seth: Well, I can see why one might think that, but what are your thoughts on that? Is that misguided or inaccurate? And if so, how is this not manipulation?

Kris Haskins: Well, you know what? When I was writing the book, Seth, I had a lot of soul-searching to do. I had a decision to make, as I’m writing the book. I learned from some masters, dude. I’m a peon when it comes to those dudes that are HomeVestors. They teach people all around the country, dog. I had to make a decision. Am I going to make this user-friendly for everybody? Or do I want to arm the new real estate investors with precise tools that they need to go in there and get the best deal for them? I struggle with that Seth, when I was writing it because I don’t want a homeowner to feel taken advantage of. On the other hand, I don’t want my trainee to go in and try to overpay based on the emotion. So, I chose to arm us investors, Seth.

Seth: Yeah. I’ve known some pretty skilled sales people in my life. And this is a narrative that they’re very well aware of. It’s that salespeople are almost seen as like, scum of the earth. Like nobody, nobody when they hold their newborn baby for the first time thinks, “Oh look, this is going to be a salesman. That’s who my child’s going to be.” It’s just kind of seen as, in general, like somebody who’s not trustworthy. But I think a skilled salesperson sort of sees it as I sort of help people see what they don’t realize. And it really serves them in the end. The idea is not to get what I want. The idea is to help them see the light. It sounds like a similar thing here. Would you agree?

Kris Haskins: Similar thing. With houses for me, you have to have some type of negotiation strategy. If you don’t, man, you’re just shooting in the wind.

Jaren: I think it really boils down to the investor’s personal integrity. The reality is when we get a house, that’s dilapidated and we make it better and we resell it. If we talk about flipping or ultimately even through like wholesaling. Even with land, we’re buying and then we’re turning around to selling it to somebody who’s going to develop the property and make it better. We’re serving the community. We’re serving the world in that. We’re taking something that is not good and we’re improving it in some capacity.

And so I think at a high level, we need to take a step back and say, “Okay, well, if you, as an individual have integrity, here are tools that you can use to help make the world a better place, to make money along the way, help the seller.” Because a lot of these motivated sellers, they’re actually in a position that they need to sell this property. They need help. They need the finances to move quickly. To be honest, I’ve been in a spot where I remember when my wife is from Kazakhstan and we were separated for a year and a half when we first got married and finances were tight during that first year. I promise you, if I added an inherited piece of junk rental property, I’d sell that thing for $10,000 with a smile on my face. I would be out of here.

And so, if you’re talking to the right person who has the right situation, you can come in and really help them. And if they’re like, caught up in their head trash or trying to latch onto it, these tools can help you serve them and ultimately serve the community. There can be a way where you do it in full integrity and win-wins. And that’s where I like a lot of the marketing stuff. You mentioned Russell Brunson earlier. There’s a lot of things given like the tone of your voice, like asking certain questions that they are influence tactics. I think it’s manipulation when it branches out to like, you’re trying to convince somebody to do something that ultimately is going to hurt them. And if that’s your motivation, that’s on you man. Like that has nothing to do with NLP. NLP is a tool. These psychological sales tactics, they’re just tools. If I have a hammer, I can build a house or I can kill somebody. It’s not the hammer’s fault.

Kris Haskins: Good point, Jaren.

Seth: Yeah. Has there ever been a situation where you’ve talked to somebody you know they can get a better deal than what you’re going to offer them. Like, they’re not the right fit and you just tell them, “Look, I’m not your guy. Just listen to some MLS and you’ll sell it tomorrow for twice as much as what I’m going to pay you.” Like, does that ever happen or are you always kind of just trying to get the best deal you can and leave it up to them whether or not they say no to that?

Kris Haskins: Oh, no. We are always a consultant when we show up at the property. Matter of fact, the first thing out of my mouth, when I made it there, Seth, is like, “Listen, I don’t even know if I’m going to buy this house or not, okay? So, we’ll walk through here. I’ll make a new friend and we’ll look at the property together. Is that okay with you?” Always frame it up as a question. You guys know.

So, I don’t even know if I’m going to buy the house and if I can’t do it yet, we just refer it to a broker. I would much rather not buy the house to give somebody a bad deal because I don’t get a referral. I need that referral. I say it every time, listen, I need you happy because I need a referral. I need you to sign a referral when we are done. To answer your question, Seth, we refer to them all the time. So, I don’t care, man. I don’t need anything, man. I do not need another house. We’ve got more than enough. We’re blessed. And I want them to know that too.

Seth: Actually, along those lines, what are your most effective ways for finding deals? Where are you getting these houses from?

Kris Haskins: We’ve got a team that does social media stuff. I got to tell you if I had to put my dollar on it, social media, I’m just starting to do text messaging, Facebook ads. We still do bandit signs. I still do a little bit of direct mail, but social media, Seth. I just think that it is the state of the internet. So, if you can get ads in front of people.

Seth: When you say social media, you mean like if you got like a Facebook page and you’re creating ads that send people to some kind of landing page or something, or what does that look like?

Kris Haskins: No, we don’t want to take them off of Facebook. It’s a landing page, but it’s within Facebook. So, if you click on the ad and Facebook has its own little… I don’t know the name of it.

Seth: Is it just showing people a phone number or they can send you a message through that? Or what does a person do to respond to that?

Kris Haskins: Yeah, they can call. Usually what I found out is social internet people, per se, as opposed to direct mail. Like direct mail people they’re ready to get on the phone. I don’t want to drive them to the internet because it’s the wild, wild west. I don’t know what popups are going to show up and somebody might steal them from me. But on the internet, a lot of them want to stay on there. They want to text you and do all that geeky stuff. So, it’s a little different communication barrier, but yeah, they’re staying online texts. Very rarely do I have a phone call from an internet lead. I mean, that’s why they’re on the internet, I guess.

Seth: In this Facebook ad, is that like a video or a picture of you or something? Or what does that look like?

Kris Haskins: Well, I do run some pictures of me, but what I found out, I did not know that if I was this popular people would contact me around the country and want me to coach them or want to get to know me a little bit based on the ads. So, we had to take my face off the ad and put another.

Seth: Yeah, gotcha.

Kris Haskins: But yeah. You have a face “I buy houses” and it’s just generic, it’s really just something to get them to click.

Seth: Cool. Interesting.

Kris Haskins: It ain’t cheap though.

Seth: There is a lot that goes into the Facebook ad stuff in terms of like, who do you target and what do you say and what do you tell them to do. And when they do it, what do you say then?

Jaren: And it’s a lot of testing, man. If we can Seth, let’s go ahead and put that blog article I wrote about Facebook ads in the show notes because I went at a very high level explaining what is happening with Facebook ads for the layperson. At the end of the day even if you hire a professional ads agency, all you’re paying for is somebody to figure it out for you. They may have a lot of experience, like they figured it out a lot of times for other people, but at the end of the day, you’re still paying them to figure it out because I’ve literally seen campaigns running in Indianapolis and convert great. And then they take the exact same campaign and run it in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And it doesn’t convert because the demographic is different and there’s all these variables that go into it. So literally from day one, all you’re doing is you have a funnel and you’re testing ads and try to find the right ad that’s actually going to get people to do it.

Seth: Maybe it’s because that Fort Wayne ad said “Sell your Indianapolis house.”

Kris Haskins: That is funny.

Seth: Your YouTube channel and your website. What made you decide to start doing that? Why? Is it just something you enjoy? And you’ve been doing it for a long time and you’ve got a huge following. So, I’m just curious how that came into the picture.

Kris Haskins: Yeah. We’re blessed, Seth. I have been doing YouTube for a long time, but I didn’t do it seriously until July, 2017. That’s when I met Valuetainment with Patrick Bet-David and now I get to hang out with the guy. So, I’m telling you this dude, he’s amazing. He was doing it teaching for entrepreneurs, right? I’m like, you know what? I could probably teach real estate investors. July, 2017, man. If you just go back in my career, it just blew up when I took content creation seriously.

And Seth, you don’t know this, but I don’t really like social media. I just do it because you have to do it. If you don’t do it, you don’t even exist. So yeah, I took that time, I’m like, you know what? I’ve been grinding since 2004. Let me just kind of share what I’ve learned and let’s see if anybody likes it.

Seth: Yeah man, it looks like it’s helping a lot of people. Kris, it’s been very enlightening. Very interesting. We haven’t had a whole lot of conversations about negotiation specifically. And I know this is a huge thing. I picked up a lot of helpful stuff just listening to this.

Seth: And your credibility packet. That was some really good insight there.

Kris Haskins: Yeah. You guys are masters too, man. I’m picking up some gyms from you too.

Seth: Yeah. When I heard about your book, I was kind of like, ‘Oh cool. Whatever. Everybody has a book.” But after hearing what you were saying, I actually think I’m going to read it. Because I feel like this is the tip of the iceberg of what we’ve talked about here. So, I’m going to take a few days I think and go through that and see if I can glean anything else. Because think of what you can accomplish in life if you’re a master negotiator, that’s unbelievable power.

Seth: Yep. You got it though, Seth. Well, I take it back. I don’t know if I can make an offer and be like, “You don’t want my offer? Okay.” I don’t know.

Jaren: Yeah. I mean land is so unique, man, where deals happen by accident. I mean, I still have calls coming in from six months, seven months ago. And people were just like, “Hey, I got your offer. I want to move forward.” It’s just different because the asset class is just…

Kris Haskins: You’re the only deal in town.

Jaren: Well, there are some places where there’s competition, but it’s a different type of property. It’s similar to like, if you own the boat or you inherited like, a boat. Like it’s nice to have if you use it. But if you live in Canada and you own property in Florida, that you inherited from your great grandmother and you have to pay property taxes on it, you don’t know what to do with it. It’s like, you don’t even know how to sell it half the time. So, the people are just a lot more motivated.

Kris Haskins: Now I’m going to just hire you all to find me some, Seth. I need a lot for my house, for my family.

Seth: Yeah, man. I know. And we can find you something. When you were talking about that Jaren, it makes me think we don’t have to negotiate a whole lot, but what if we did?

Jaren: That’s exactly why I want to read his book.

Seth: Yeah. I think if I don’t want more deals, we can make it happen. We’re just not trying to because you don’t have to.

Jaren: Yeah, that’s true.

Seth: I feel like there’s something there.

Jaren: I hundred percent agree.

Seth: So, Kris, if people want to learn more about you, we’re obviously going to link to your YouTube channel and your book and your website. What is your website?

Kris Haskins: You can just go to either krishaskins.com really right now. I mean, I need to think bigger and get a bigger vision.

Seth: And this Real Estate Roundup, what is that?

Kris Haskins: The Real Estate Roundup. That’s what I started up in 2010. I started just interviewing people. I was like, you know what? Let me round up the best real estate people in my town. That’s when I started kind of like seeing the vision of surrounding myself with the best, but it ultimately turned into coaching and training. So, that’s just my inner circle people. It is a website too and I have the domain. I don’t have it quite set up to where you can kind of go in and join. Always a work in progress, right?

Seth: Awesome. Well again, I appreciate you taking the time to come on the RETipster podcast. And again, everybody check out RETipster.com/81 where you can find all the details about everything we talked about here and go check out krishaskins.com. That’s krishaskins.com. Thanks again, Kris.

Kris Haskins: Thanks, guys.

Seth: So, there you have it folks. That was our interview with Kris. I thought that was very, very enlightening. I’ve read like similar negotiation stuff in the past, but I feel like there’s lots of different spins people can put on it and I kind of liked the spin he put on it. So, what did you think, Jaren?

Jaren: Yeah, I thought it was really insightful. I think at a high level, if you just go in there with the intent to just help, you’re going to uncover a lot of pain points and you’re going to do a lot of the tactics without even trying. So, if you guys aren’t trained, don’t have this interview be a reason to feel like, “Oh, I need to go out and spend a bunch of money to get training or whatever.” It’s good to just listen to podcasts, read some books and have some further advanced instruction on different subjects like negotiations and stuff like that. But if you just go in with the intent to just create win-wins and to help people, you’re going to get there.

Seth: Cool. Well, in usual fashion, we’re going to ask a random question here of Jaren and myself. So, the question is this. If you could have any object or place in the world completely to yourself for one day, what would you choose?

Jaren: Object or place.

Seth: Yeah.

Jaren: You go first because I always go first.

Seth: I don’t know why, but for some reason the first thing that is coming to mind is either like Disney World or some other amusement park, which is funny because I don’t want to do amusement parks these days. At least I haven’t in a long time, but I just remember thinking that when I was at Cedar Point several times in Ohio, as a kid waiting in line for like two hours to get on a ride. And I don’t know, that’d be really cool to just like run on every ride and just do it. You don’t have to sit and wait all day.

Jaren: Yeah. It would be awesome to like, rent it out for an entire day.

Seth: Yeah.

Jaren: I think that it would be really cool to… I don’t know. What comes to my mind is there’s this place called Mount Athos, which is like an entire island of just monks. Like women I think are allowed to visit the Island, like during the day, but they can’t spend the night there. Don’t quote me on that. I don’t know exactly how that works, but I think it would be really cool to go to Mount Athos. But I guess that’s not to yourself because you have the monks there, so maybe that doesn’t work.

Seth: Amusement part probably wouldn’t be there because people have to help you get on the ride, right?

Jaren: Yeah. I mean that’s the only one that comes to mind is I think it’d be really cool to go there and be like the sole visitor and talk to all the super high-level monks and then the hermits and stuff and bug them and stuff. That would be fun.

Seth: Yeah. It’s kind of a tricky question because most places anywhere that I can think of, the existence of people is sort of a crucial component of what gives it value. Like if you a hundred percent eliminate all other bodies, I don’t know. In some way it would be lacking. You’d be like truly in the wilderness by yourself or something. So, I don’t know.

Jaren: I mean I think an object would be easier. An unlimited supply of Chick-fil-A. That would be pretty dope for a day.

Seth: Actually, I fantasize that someday in heaven we’ll be able to eat anything we want and it will never get full and it won’t make us fat. It would just be like, perfect.

Jaren: That’d be awesome. I mean, I definitely think Chick-fil-A is going to be in heaven. I heard a meme or like a joke on it. It was a meme on Facebook and it said about 2020 and all the crazy stuff that’s been going on. I don’t know if you knew, but there was this big competition between Popeye’s new chicken sandwich and then Chick-fil-A.

Seth: I did not know that.

Jaren: Yeah, it was trending on Twitter. It was like this huge thing. Somebody said, “Listen, when I started messing with God’s chicken, all this started to happen. I’m just saying.”

Seth: Do you really think Chick-fil-A is…? I mean, I agree. It’s very good, but like every fried chicken on Earth, is that really the best there is?

Jaren: Well, I mean, I think that it’s from a fast food restaurant, yes. And it’s very good. When they call it God’s chicken it’s because they don’t work on Sunday and it’s more of their brand. It’s not necessarily the quality of their chicken. But I think that they’re probably within the top three for me. When it comes to fast food chains, they’re the best. But when it comes to like, mom and pop shops, like you can definitely find some better chicken.

Seth: You hear a lot of people hate like, McDonald’s for example, like it’s a garbage hamburger. Like anybody can make something better than that. It sort of is by one measurement. But if you measure it by consistency, you can go to any McDonald’s on Earth and order a double cheeseburger and you know what it’s going to be. Somehow to get all of those different variables and people and ingredients and everything working together so that it’s the same everywhere. Like that’s actually a pretty amazing feat. So, cool, man.

Jaren: Yes, sir.

Seth: Well, again, folks, if you want to check out all the resources we talked about, go check out RETipster.com/81 to see the show notes. And if you’re listening to this on your phone, take your phone out and text the word “FREE.” F-R-E-E to the number 33777. You can stay up to date on all the things we got going on.

So, I want to thank Kris again for coming on the show. It was awesome talking with him. And for everybody out there listening, I hope you’re doing well. And we’ll talk to you next time.

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Charlie Mars gets the truth out of his head in the glow of the Blackberry Light

By Tad Wilkes

With his new album Blackberry Light, after years writing, recording and touring, Charlie Mars seems to have slipped into a comfortable rhythm. Well, let’s not use the word “comfortable,” a term better strapped to an autopilot Branson theater crooner. Perhaps the more fluid “comfort zone” is better fitting as Mars finds himself, on the road and on his record, resonating what he’s all about.

Oh, and yes, I’m splitting linguistic hairs again; I said, “record.” Blackberry Light is also available on vinyl (pick it up at The End of All Music on North Lamar). Though the album picks up where his last outing Like a Bird, Like a Plane left off, it’s produced by Tchad Blake, whose tip-of-the-iceberg resume abbreviation includes Elvis Costello, Bonnie Raitt, Richard Thompson, Pearl Jam and Al Green. Warmth and soul abound, with plenty of round edges. And buoyed by the infectious melody and funky clavinet of the album’s “How I Roll,” Mars has clinched a new segment of his growing fanbase, after the song was featured on Weeds, ironically after his split with ex Mary Louise Parker, the show’s star.

Mars just finished a portion of his tour supporting Steve Earle on a string of dates. Now it’s on to new cities, new stages and new songs. Thursday, October 11, the circuit brings the Laurel-raised songwriter back through Oxford, where he’s lived for 13 years, when he performs at Proud Larrys—and gets to spend a night in his own bed before heading back out.

HT: Aside from the sonic textures of your recordings over the years, in what ways do you think your songwriting itself has developed, from your earliest songwriting and what was on Born and Razed (Mars’s first album), and what elements of your current approach have remained constant?

CM: I’m on tour with Steve Earle now. He says my songs are about me. That’s probably been a constant. I’ve tried to make the writing more economical. I pay more attention to the melody than I used to. I think I have a better understanding of what’s not supposed to be there.

HT: How did you come to collaborate with (producer) Tchad Blake, and in what ways did he inject his touch into Blackberry Light in terms of the songs themselves?

CM: I bugged the crap out of him until he agreed to mix the record. I think he liked the music, too, because it wasn’t a huge paycheck for him or anything. He made the songs pop and sound way better. He’s a genius.

HT: I heard a live set of yours on XM recently from a New York show, and one of the last couple of songs was on piano, and you explained that it isn’t on the album. The name of the song escapes me now, but it struck me as quite different from the percussive acoustic style groove you’ve gotten into on the last two albums. Tell me about how the song came to be.

CM: I wrote that song in Austin for the Courtyard Hounds (ex-Dixie Chicks Martie Maguire and Emily Robison) but they didn’t use it on their record. I like it, so I’ve started trying it out live. It’s called “Got to be Blue.”

HT: You’ve said you have to work diligently to stay clear of your “darker self” and that the songwriting process helps you do that. On some material, it sounds like you’re having a conversation with that darker self, as if to catch up on old times. Can you elaborate on what the songwriting process does for you with regard to managing your darker self?

CM: It helps me get my truth out of my head and swimming around somewhere else. I’ve found the worst thing is to hang on to it.

HT: Song placements in television seem to have become important in spreading your work around, including most recently “How I Roll” on Weeds. How have you taken advantage of this area? Do you find that you’re getting new fans and shows from those placements?

CM: I think some of the placements are good for the money, but don’t move the needle much as far as fans or sales. Some of them have a pretty big impact. The Weeds placement was pretty crazy. I can’t believe the response from it. Its really hard to get music out these days, and film and TV placements are a very important piece of that puzzle. They aren’t easy to get, though.

HT: What lessons have you picked up over the years opening for acts such as REM and Steve Earle, about songwriting, touring and life?

CM: Steve Earle told me my job is to write songs. Sometimes I forget that. I’ve been inspired to be better by so many of the acts that I’ve toured with. The guys from REM were so gracious to me. It really made me feel special, and I hope I spread that kindness to other people.

HT: Who are some of your favorite songwriters at the moment, and why?

CM: I really enjoy Rufus Wainwright’s records. He often writes lyrics that interest me. I like his honesty, and he’s a great craftsman. I like Griffin House. He keeps it simple and knocks you out. I’m always listening to Jackson Browne. And the guy from Dawes is good.

HT: What’s the best music live set you’ve been able to catch as a spectator on the road, and why did it move you?

CM: I saw Levon Helm on New Year’s Eve, 2011. It was incredible. He was having voice issues at the time, and nobody knew if he was even going to sing at the Ramble in Woodstock. About half way through the show he started singing. “Ophelia” was incredible.

HT: Why did you decide to reside in Oxford?

CM: I came to Oxford one weekend 13 years ago to visit my brother and never left. What can I say? Its the only place I’ve ever lived since I moved out of my parent’s house that felt like home. I wish the juice bar would open back up though.

Charlie Mars performs at Proud Larrys on October 11, with Adrian Dickey opening the show.

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081: How to Negotiate Like a Pro w/ Kris Haskins

Kris Haskins is someone Jaren and I met this past year at a conference in LA called VidSummit.

In this interview, we’re going to talk about Kris’ secret sauce for negotiating and how he’s been able to make a great life for himself as a real estate investor.

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Facebook Ads Made Simple (Even Your Kids Can Do It)

The Real Estate Negotiating Bible (ebook) by Kris Haskins

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Ninja Negotiation Audio Recordings by Kris Haskins

Valuetainment YouTube Channel

Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki

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What is an Accredited Investor

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Seth: Kris, welcome to the show. How are you doing?

Kris Haskins: What up, Seth? What up, Jaren?

Jaren: Hey man. I’m excited to have you on the show today.

Kris Haskins: Yes, it’s an honor.

Seth: Yeah. So just to kick this off, maybe you can tell us your backstory, like how did you get into real estate, and what made you decide to go down this road?

Jaren: Wow, man. It’s awesome.

Kris Haskins: And that’s it. After that, I’m like, you know what? I’m doing the same thing. This time is on my side as opposed as the time being working against me. So, let’s do this.

Jaren: Love it.

Kris Haskins: So here we are.

Seth: Wow. That’s crazy, man.

Seth: Is it harder to make money in the music business these days or easier or has that changed in some way?

Kris Haskins: Me neither.

Jaren: I don’t even watch Netflix. I just watch YouTube. That’s all the TV I watch.

Seth: Yeah. I just watched Disney Plus’ Donald Duck.

Jaren: This guy.

Seth: I’m only kind of kidding with that. Like I actually do watch a lot of Donald Duck these days with a three-year-old and a six-year-old. That’s like prime-time TV around here.

Seth: Yeah.

Kris Haskins: The big money stuff is boring.

Jaren: The boring factor, it keeps a lot of people.

Seth: Yeah. That’s okay though.

Jaren: Yeah, it works out.

Jaren: That’s awesome, man.

Seth: How does that work with raising money? Who are you talking to? What are they getting out of it? Explain those pieces for us.

Jaren: That’s funny.

Kris Haskins: I don’t know if that’s the saying for you.

Seth: Bob Hope was saying, “A bank is a place that will lend you money if you can prove that you don’t need it.” That’s kind of what it boils down to, sort of.

Jaren: Yeah. That’s awesome. What do your terms look like?

Kris Haskins: Yeah, generally speaking, we pay our lenders anywhere from 7% to 8%.

Jaren: Awesome.

Seth: Do they have to be accredited investors or anything like that or not really? Just anybody that has money can throw at you.

Kris Haskins: They can. I think there’s a certain dollar amount. I don’t know what it is. I think it’s a million. Accredited has a definition.

Kris Haskins: No. I don’t have any accredited. I don’t even know if I hang out with people that have a net worth of that in my circle.

Seth: I don’t either, when you come to think of it.

Seth: Really? Interesting.

Kris Haskins: They never tell me “No.” They’re like, you know what? “Thank you.”

Seth: That’s some gray area.

Kris Haskins: The positive word is called neuro-linguistic programming. Good gracious. You talk like I’m stealing grandma’s house.

Jaren: A.k.a. manipulation. Tell me about it. Tell me about NLP.

Jaren: That’s hilarious.

Kris Haskins: If you think about videos on YouTube are good. If you would see what happens in this house, I would probably have a show on it.

Kris Haskins: I want to be transparent. That very rarely happens today as it used to be in the past. How old are you, Jaren?

Jaren: 29.

Jaren: It’s because of the branding.

Kris Haskins: The digital footprint. Dude, when you show up, they just want to give you a hug.

Seth: Do they know you through Real Estate Roundup or something else? Like you have a separate website with a video and they get to know you that way. How is it that the people know who you are?

Kris Haskins: Just with the digital footprint. They’ll see me with my kids. They always type your name in, right? They want to know who you are.

Seth: I got you.

Jaren: Right.

Kris Haskins: When you get there, you’re the dad, husband. They love you. If you have the right digital footprint on the internet, it’s just unavoidable.

Seth: So, they’re googling “Kris Haskins” and they find something that you put out there and they feel like they kind of know you already before you show up.

Kris Haskins: Oh, yeah. That’s huge for us.

Seth: Interesting.

Jaren: So, what about back in the day though? Like before you had a big digital footprint?

Seth: And referrals, it’s just like a letter or something? Or what does that mean exactly?

Kris Haskins: Yeah. I’ve got them right here. So, these are just people that we’ve bought houses from. They’d say they love you, we take a picture with them.

Seth: Oh, cool.

Kris Haskins: I leave a place where they can write something at the bottom down there.

Seth: Gotcha.

Jaren: That’s awesome.

Seth: And people are okay doing that? They’re just, “Yeah, take a picture of me and use me for the future?”

Kris Haskins: Not everybody. Some people just, they’ll do one of these. I’ll type it up and then they’ll write something at the bottom.

Seth: Cool.

Kris Haskins: You got to have some type of credibility. Jaren, I don’t know if I’m going in the right direction with what we were talking about negotiation.

Jaren: This is helpful. Yeah.

Seth: If a person doesn’t have a family, say they’re a single person. Do they take a picture with their fish or something?

Kris Haskins: They are in trouble.

Jaren: Their dog.

Seth: You should just give up right now.

Kris Haskins: Maybe the dog, aunt, grandma. I don’t know. a picture.

Jaren: Grandma would work. That would be cute – “This is my grandma. She helps me buy houses.”

Seth: Picture with your probation officer or something?

Kris Haskins: You’re in trouble.

Seth: Anything else in the credibility kit?

Jaren: Or YouTube channel?

Seth: Yeah. Like what exactly is making them comfortable?

Kris Haskins: Yeah. All of it. Here’s the thing. I don’t know if you’re familiar with Valuetainment at all.

Seth: I don’t know that I am. What is that?

Jaren: That’s like Seth’s worth nightmare.

Seth: Yes, it is. I will lose sleep about that sometimes.

Jaren: Yeah. We go to great lengths to make sure that our reputation is intact, man. We really want to make sure that people, when they come to RETipster, they’re coming to something different.

Jaren: I ran on Russell Brunson.

Jaren: For our listeners that might not know what an NLP is, do you want to give a Cliff Notes version?

Kris Haskins: Neuro-linguistic programming.

Seth: Sum it up into one word.

Jaren: Go. Right now.

Seth: Okay.

Jaren: Are you getting that to like do a life example? Like convinced me to go work out tonight or something?

Jaren: Yeah.

Jaren: All right, let’s do it.

Kris Haskins: I have to find out what you can tell me about your kids for us. I know you’ve got some beautiful children, Jaren.

Kris Haskins: I do. I have a son who is 16 months old and then another son on the way. I found out that we’re having a boy. Did you know that Seth? We’re having a boy.

Seth: I didn’t. I knew you were having a kid, but not a boy. So, congrats.

Jaren: Yeah, we are having a boy.

Seth: That’s awesome, man.

Kris Haskins: Congratulations.

Jaren: Yeah. It’s exciting.

Kris Haskins: I’m sure you want your son to be here well until your older ages, right?

Jaren: Yeah.

Kris Haskins: Yeah. So, we try to kind of eat healthy. Do you think going to the gym will extend your life or would cut it short?

Kris Haskins: That stuff tastes good.

Jaren: My major driver in life is impact and influence. And I want to like, impact people. I want to make a difference. That’s my driver.

Kris Haskins: Oh, man. I love the questions, man.

Jaren: This is really good stuff. This is like a master class. I love this. This is really good.

Jaren: Yeah. It’s funny that they’ll sit down and then they’ll just talk for like 40 minutes and tell you all about everything.

Seth: Come prepared. Yeah.

Jaren: Yeah, he said that about his wife.

Seth: There you go. So that’s one example.

Kris Haskins: We still could do that. Yeah.

Jaren: Because that’s how you establish trust. That’s really interesting.

Kris Haskins: There you go. “You’re right. Ms. Smith, sure. At the district it could be worth $200,000.” Then I kind of go down with that one. I’ve never caught them off though.

Kris Haskins: I love it. It’s exactly why I wrote this book. This is exactly why I wrote this book, Seth.

Seth: By the way, I’d be linking to that book in the show notes at RETipster.com/81. Just so you’re aware.

Jaren: Very interesting.

Kris Haskins: My wife is one of them. Go ahead.

Seth: Well, I can see why one might think that, but what are your thoughts on that? Is that misguided or inaccurate? And if so, how is this not manipulation?

Kris Haskins: Similar thing. With houses for me, you have to have some type of negotiation strategy. If you don’t, man, you’re just shooting in the wind.

Kris Haskins: Good point, Jaren.

Seth: Actually, along those lines, what are your most effective ways for finding deals? Where are you getting these houses from?

Seth: When you say social media, you mean like if you got like a Facebook page and you’re creating ads that send people to some kind of landing page or something, or what does that look like?

Seth: Is it just showing people a phone number or they can send you a message through that? Or what does a person do to respond to that?

Seth: In this Facebook ad, is that like a video or a picture of you or something? Or what does that look like?

Seth: Yeah, gotcha.

Kris Haskins: But yeah. You have a face “I buy houses” and it’s just generic, it’s really just something to get them to click.

Seth: Cool. Interesting.

Kris Haskins: It ain’t cheap though.

Seth: There is a lot that goes into the Facebook ad stuff in terms of like, who do you target and what do you say and what do you tell them to do. And when they do it, what do you say then?

Seth: Maybe it’s because that Fort Wayne ad said “Sell your Indianapolis house.”

Kris Haskins: That is funny.

Seth: And your credibility packet. That was some really good insight there.

Kris Haskins: Yeah. You guys are masters too, man. I’m picking up some gyms from you too.

Seth: Yep. You got it though, Seth. Well, I take it back. I don’t know if I can make an offer and be like, “You don’t want my offer? Okay.” I don’t know.

Kris Haskins: You’re the only deal in town.

Kris Haskins: Now I’m going to just hire you all to find me some, Seth. I need a lot for my house, for my family.

Seth: Yeah, man. I know. And we can find you something. When you were talking about that Jaren, it makes me think we don’t have to negotiate a whole lot, but what if we did?

Jaren: That’s exactly why I want to read his book.

Seth: Yeah. I think if I don’t want more deals, we can make it happen. We’re just not trying to because you don’t have to.

Jaren: Yeah, that’s true.

Seth: I feel like there’s something there.

Jaren: I hundred percent agree.

Seth: So, Kris, if people want to learn more about you, we’re obviously going to link to your YouTube channel and your book and your website. What is your website?

Kris Haskins: You can just go to either krishaskins.com really right now. I mean, I need to think bigger and get a bigger vision.

Seth: And this Real Estate Roundup, what is that?

Kris Haskins: Thanks, guys.

Jaren: Object or place.

Seth: Yeah.

Jaren: You go first because I always go first.

Jaren: Yeah. It would be awesome to like, rent it out for an entire day.

Seth: Yeah.

Seth: Amusement part probably wouldn’t be there because people have to help you get on the ride, right?

Jaren: I mean I think an object would be easier. An unlimited supply of Chick-fil-A. That would be pretty dope for a day.

Seth: Actually, I fantasize that someday in heaven we’ll be able to eat anything we want and it will never get full and it won’t make us fat. It would just be like, perfect.

Seth: I did not know that.

Jaren: Yeah, it was trending on Twitter. It was like this huge thing. Somebody said, “Listen, when I started messing with God’s chicken, all this started to happen. I’m just saying.”

Seth: Do you really think Chick-fil-A is…? I mean, I agree. It’s very good, but like every fried chicken on Earth, is that really the best there is?

Jaren: Yes, sir.

So, I want to thank Kris again for coming on the show. It was awesome talking with him. And for everybody out there listening, I hope you’re doing well. And we’ll talk to you next time.

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