#like you get to the end of htn and think oh okay so these are the themes and here is how harrow from gtn got to htn
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I completely respect the opinion that the beginning of htn is a slog, one of my good friends irl feels that way and even fans of that book in particular also feel that way a lot of times, but all that said, I did not find it boring or difficult to push through. as someone who truly could not give a fuck about how a book is paced as long as I'm invested in the character interactions all the way through, it gave me what I wanted. It gave me interesting side characters, it delivered on character arcs from the first book, it expanded on the themes of the previous book perfectly, and the basic plot eventually did make sense. Plus it ends with an insane burst of energy and the messiest divorce in the universe
#if anything i think ntn isn't as neatly contained. htn continues from gtn in a very direct way even though that way is originally obscured#like you get to the end of htn and think oh okay so these are the themes and here is how harrow from gtn got to htn#emotionally the whole thing makes sense#you do have to do a bit more guesswork to get the characters from htn to ntn. imo. both emotional and practical guesswork#i guess the only way htn is a slog for me personally is that#it deals pretty heavily with isolation exhaustion and coercive life situations and i'm not always in the mood to think about those things#but i do think the side characters are fun enough that it kinda makes up for it
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okay, round up of miscellaneous NtN thoughts now that I've finished it. content warning for the usual TLT shit, and also my generally very mixed opinions about the series, and so on.
the whole cow situation and resulting moral outrage is wildly underwhelming to me. eight thousand eye-rolling emoji at everyone in-universe as we speak. like oh no, someone killed a bunch of (iirc raised-for-meat??) cows for an instrumental purpose of keeping some humans alive... come back when the entire species has stopped eating beef and maybe I won't want to kick you for being pea-brained hypocrites.
I need. some kind of explanation to make sense of Nona continually referring to dead!Gideon as "Kiriona Gaia" and Babs!Ianthe as "he", while also being perfectly spot-on accurate when it comes to Cam, Pal, and Pyrrha? like not in the moral sense but in the sense of, "if the latter is about matching the social cues her family gives her, why does that not apply for the former? if it's about her ability to read people's identities from their motion and general physicality, does the body being dead but still inhabited really make that much of a difference, and if so, then still why does she keep being immune to correcting social cues for those two in particular? why is Coronabeth "Crown" and Aim "the Angel?" etc etc"
speaking of which. Aim. Messenger. A(OL) I(nstant) Messenger. lmao.
so Cristabel seems to be two for two in terms of "died via killing herself in service of some greater goal she wanted for another person she cared about, despite them going "no fuck don't do that", huh?"
John and Blood of Eden really are just equal and opposite varieties of insufferable to me, honestly
(John because *gestures at Everything*, and BoE bc 1. similarly pretentious motherfuckers aren't they; 2. that meme of the lady putting boxes up high out of the child's reach and this particular box says "zombies"; 3. look I don't like Judith Deuteros either but that's no excuse for war crimes (if you want advice on quality war crimes to do while fighting a magic society with deities hanging around, please consult one (1) Turyin Mulaghesh Divine Cities trilogy))
I do think the main thing that's interesting to me about the pre-rez chapters, is the way it contrasts... (even immense quantities of) personal power vs the institutional self-sustaining power of capitalism+the state? but/and also... by the point that you're puppeting the (I assume?) president of the United States, could you not figure out how to. spot-remove the trillionaires and take control of their plans in the same way...? I mean. there just seems to be more effective use of the personal power they had, compared to what they actually did. (I'm inclined to put that down to John's bigger emotional motivations being personal aggrandizement & glory, being the one Known to have saved the day, if that's up against truly getting shit done, ngl. see above re: insufferable.)
CamPal fusion made me cry like a baby. it's so..... like the relief and love on Cam's end just hits like a truck; and then at the same time I completely get Nona's distress at "these two specific people I love no longer exist". but idk, to me it's more of a... grief about change than about straight-up loss, if that makes sense? because of the way various Cam and Pal things aren't just flat gone in the way they'd be if they winked out of existence instead of transforming. esp since Palamedes was already very much on borrowed tenuous time.
("Paul" reallllyyyy doesn't do it for me, though. because of, rather than in spite of, the thematic baggage, personally speaking. esp when they could've picked something nice like "Garnet" instead)
I still don't get the other planets in the solar system having rez beasts if the rationale for "planet has a soul" is anything remotely like the explanation John gave back in HtN. like sure, I buy him eating all the people on say, space stations at each one, fine - but a few space stations isn't an ECOSYSTEM??? I just. either the other planets have all been terraformed to some degree (in which case why do we need to go to Tau Ceti?), or else whence comes this planet soul? I'm sorry to be a nitpicker and a "why? why? why?" bird, but it's fundamentally in my nature #scorpionshrug
Ianthe and Corona still living rent-free etc etc but also oh my gooooddddd get a room you two, I cannot deal with the degrading comments in front of everyone else in the same way I can't read fanfic involving public sex OTL
and finally, Nona Is Valid; I Too Would Not Despairingly Kill A Truck Full Of People Because Someone Reminded Me There Was A Dog In The Back. highly relatable a+ content.
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I posted 3,160 times in 2022
That's 3,140 more posts than 2021!
118 posts created (4%)
3,042 posts reblogged (96%)
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I tagged 3,080 of my posts in 2022
Only 3% of my posts had no tags
#tlt - 1,625 posts
#tlt art - 757 posts
#nona the ninth spoilers - 516 posts
#harrowhark nonagesimus - 401 posts
#gideon nav - 277 posts
#ntn - 263 posts
#griddlehark - 228 posts
#htn - 177 posts
#tlt humor - 175 posts
#ianthe tridentarius - 166 posts
Longest Tag: 138 characters
#or when harrow wasn’t paying attention and said that everyone would’ve throttled her in the first five minutes if she wasn’t so attractive
My Top Posts in 2022:
#5
never gonna recover from the realization that this whole thing started because a nun killed herself to save god.
and how it’s going to end because the daughter of god killed herself to save a nun.
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#4
what i would love more than anything in the world would be to see harrow back in her own body but have pyrrha still be just as affectionate to her as she was to nona. can you even imagine how furious harrow would be. to wake up every morning and get called kiddie and cajoled into eating breakfast as pyrrha makes ass jokes.
2,058 notes - Posted September 24, 2022
#3
when i first read the broadcast scene and realized it was ianthe on the screen, i was absolutely freaking out when she was described as having brown hair. i was already like ten miles down the road thinking about how dyeing her hair seemed so out of character for her and i was scrambling to come up with anything to point to why she would have done that and -
oh, she’s just wearing her dead cavalier’s body like a snuggie, phew. okay, yeah that sounds more like her. thought she was doing something weird there for a second.
2,094 notes - Posted November 23, 2022
#2
i am a firm believer that the reason gideon’s vocabulary is Like That is that at some point in their childhood, she got sick of harrow calling her stupid and sat herself down with a thesaurus and memorized with a fervor that can only be summoned by spite
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My #1 post of 2022
After months and months of Gideon spewing the most bonkers goth pet names at Harrow, Harrow, on her deathbed, pulls out “first flower of my house.” Was she… trying to reciprocate?
Like she literally says earlier on to Gideon, “You’d better stop it with all this twilit princess garbage because I may start to like it.” I can just see the gears turning in her head. “I like it when she calls ME pet names, therefore the best way to show my affection is to also use a fancy epithet for HER” and then she shot right past “goofy teasing” and landed in “irrefutable romance” territory.
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#the worst part of this is that i only came back off semi-hiatus when nona dropped#that's over 3k posts in not even 100 days#it's the nonagesimitis i swear#nona the ninth spoilers#lol @ needing to tag my entire year in review as nona spoilers but like#also that feels correct#tumblr2022#year in review
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I think something that contributes HUGELY to the tone of HtN is that we never get a rest montage.
You know the one. The bit in a story where characters have a break, a brief respite, a pitstop. They will sleep, patch up their wounds, restock their supplies. It is often to be found in-between books in a series; the bit at the start where the tension has bled from last book’s climax, and shit hasn’t yet hit the fan in this book.
Harrow never gets one.
The end of GtN sets us up marvellously for it. I was fully expecting to find it at the beginning of HtN. The trauma conga line of GtN is over, Cytherea is dead, Harrow is in a safe place with time and resources to at least regroup. So now we’re gonna see her get her bearings before blasting on with the plot, right?
WRONG!
Whatever respite Harrow gets, we never see it. Instead we are kicked immediately to post-lobotomy Harrow, who is vomiting, alone, barely clothed, using blood for makeup. She is addled and confused and weak the whole time. So we figure, Okay, now she got to the Mithraeum, now we will see her get her bearings.
WRONG AGAIN. TIMESKIP. WE ARE MURDERING PLANETS NOW.
Like, the total absence of a simple settling in or resting montage made me feel the whole time like Harrow just never stopped being in the wrecked state we first found her in. I was desperate the whole time just to know if she ever got to take a bath. And then I find out she has been taking baths, oh, whew, thank God, WAIT WHAT IS THIS, IT’S GIDEON THE FIRST WITH A STEEL CHAIR.
The first and only rest montage we get is when Harrow gets to pass out good post her bone soup attempt, and even then it’s frail, cause Ianthe won’t do her the simple kindness of not leaving when Harrow asks. It is MADDENING. It drives me to desperation. I just want her to SLEEP and take a RELAXING BATH and have some FOOD.
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Finally, here’s the much-belated writeup of my post-cover reveal “Who is Nona??” poll, as requested by @ace-and-ranty. (sorry I was extremely busy).
Whose Body??
so! a bold 45% of responders would like to bet that Nona is in Harrow’s body. That cover art sure doesn’t look like her, and that would be suspiciously predictable! but as we don’t seem to have a strong alternative contender, it’s hard to see who else she would be.
The best runners-up here are Anastasia, Alecto, and The Body (other), at 20%, 13%, and 9%, respectively. It’s hard to tell what exactly everyone was thinking here, since the current State of the Fandom with regards to Who Is The Body theories is very confused. But it looks like to me that collectively, nearly half of respondents think that Nona is in the Body or a Body-adjacent body, as it were. If we tallied these all together, we’d be at a respectable 42%, rivalling the Harrowbod voters.
Alas no one seems to think that Nona is in Silas’s body, which is a shame since that was an excellent crack theory. But the other unhinged theories include Wake’s other daughter, Samael, and Mercymorn. You can always count the Locked Tomb fandom to come through with the battiest ideas. I’m also seeing a combined 5% of people who think Nona is no one important, just a random BOE member or defrosted Niner. And 5% of respondents insist against all visual cover evidence that Nona is in Gideon’s body. I wish, but it seems unlikely.
But Who Is Nona???
Here’s where things start to get messy.
Respondents are almost evenly split between thinking that Nona is Alecto, who’s barely winning at 27%. Right behind her is Anastasia, at 26%, and Gideon at 21%. Which is to say, the fandom at large is confused-- and in fact there were eighteen other answers, mostly write-ins, ranging from “the embodiment of Abigail Pent’s competence” to “nona :).” Thanks, anon, that really clears it up.
So! I think the big takeaway here is that we’re convinced that the Body/Anastasia/Alecto is deeply involved in all this nonsense. if only we had the slightest cohesive fanon theory to how.
see below the cut for the best of the red-string posterboard shenanigans from the comment section!
Okay so from the whole not burning herself on hot sausages thing we can proooobably assume she's in a Lyctor's body so she automatically heals. Of the logical possibilities, that means either Harrow or Anastasia MAYBE Alecto although Alecto hasn't been confirmed to have that power AFAIK but she was basically impossible to kill so maybe she did. I'm guessing Harrow mostly because if it's not Harrow, then it's weird that Harrow is absent from the epilogue of HTN. But also then I don't know where Harrow and Gideon went because if they're ALL in there it's getting pretty damn crowded, but if they're not then??? idk it would just be weird if the main characters from the past two books weren't in this one. All this bs probably has SOMETHING to do with 'perfect lyctorhood' and Anastasia was supposed to be close to that and i don't know what that means also i feel like the dog having six legs is SOMEHOW related to nona's origins but i don't know how i'm going feral i can't possibly wait until september alternate theory: nona is ur mom lol
Bruh I think we fucked up our soup
I have completely forgotten Silas which oh no now I simply must reread the entire series over again *said like a victorian lady on a fainting couch*
I'm honestly not super confident in my vote. Gideon in Harrow's body seems like the most obvious considering where things ended - Pyrrah being with her, being in a body with yellow eyes and constantly growing hair, a ferrety high forehead face, Camilla trying to see if she likes bones and swords, etc. Plus would explain the ninth there but crossed out in the title. Sometimes the obvious answer is right, like how to me the second person narrative in 2nd book meant it was Gideon then it was. The thing that throws me off is - why would it be hard for Camilla and Pyrrah to know its her?? Palamedes also knew Gideon was in there. So that's why I think it might also be the body or some other soul from the river? Anyway I hope to find some amnesiac Gideon fanfics now
I don't get all this Anastasia stuff. Nothing in the story has suggested to me that she is any more important than she seems. Looking forward to being proved wrong.
is endless screaming a comment? i have lots of endless screaming.
harrow is half-dead, except she's 200 dying souls. bada bing bada BOOM poof you have a miniature RB, smooshed into the conveniently empty body of resident ice bimbo anastasia.
LISTEN. the book takes place over a week and also ten thousand years, according to muir, so nona is likely one of the fishstick-people god put in the freezer for later. like. she gets ice-lollied on thursday and wakes up friday on goth pluto a myriad later with a bunch of dead & dying nuns and she gets some boring basic ninth house name like nona. imagine the peppy YA-tone (which muir says is the realm the book inhabits!) of it all: "me and 200 people woke up on a strange planet! new friends! new emenies! new... lovers?!". cam & the galpals, BOE-aligned, might have picked her up on their way to complete BOE's unfinished quest to pop open the locked tomb. i'm throwing spaghetti at a wall.
The Random Defrosted Niner theory is *chef's kiss*. I love the idea of the fandom going feral trying to figure out what named character is on the cover, and then it's just like some rando
who knows bestie
(ed. ME TOO, anon. ME TOO.)
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April Showers
The feeling of want. The want to be liked by everyone. The want to belong. The want of a specific life. That feeling of want can easily be mistaken for need. We do not need to be liked by everyone. In fact the feeling of accomplishment and success within small group of people out weighs the feeling of needing everyone to like you. Or at least it should.
The hard part is it doesn't with me. The feeling I have that I care about what every one thinks of me takes over my brain. I will adjust my own values and thoughts and choices to make myself more desirable to that person or group. It fucks up everything I thought I knew and then makes me hate myself since I loose my values.
That's what is happening lately. The way I feel about my life - especially covid - has been manipulated based on who I am around or talking to. I am not comfortable in making my own personal choices because I change how I value everything in my life regarding it frequently. I feel pressure to feel or act a certain way around certain people so I fit in.
Who knew I would be better at my own confidence in high school then I am now. Isn't it supposed to be the opposite?
So here I am worried that certain people don't like me. Questioning my worth according to how I am viewed. If they don't like in choices I assume I am worthless. Then the self loathing starts.
Once that voice in my head starts telling me how worthless I am and how I am a waste of skin and energy it doesn't go away. I am currently on day 3. It is getting better but it still exists.
I have hard if you have ever thought about ending your own life is when depression starts to become an issue. But what if you think about it without it coming true? Like sure, I think all the time what it would be like not being here. The amount of pain I feel - that seems to be getting worse with age - could be all gone. A relief. Then I think about my family and boyfriend. How they would feel. How it doesn't just impact my life but theirs as well. And I can't - I just couldn't do that to them.
So then my mind thinks - well what if it was an accident. I could never do it myself but sometimes driving down the high way I hope that someone hits me, cuts me off anything and then BAM. It does it all on it's own. Without my interventions. The pain and suffering my family have to endure is no longer my fault.
Again. I have hard as soon as you start to think like this, that's when depression is a problem.
But do I have depression? Or anxiety? Or ADHD? Or...? the list goes on. The problem is getting the nerve (and money) to actually seek the help you need. And knowing you can't tell them everything because they would lock you up to get help. No what I want. I do not want that stigma defining me. Working in health care I have seem and know how to work the system as bad as that sounds.
I am functioning so I must be okay right? I have a list of numbers I want to call. People to talk with to help. I have been looking at those numbers for months now. "Maybe next payday" or I am just too scared to call.
I really should. I know. Don't lecture me. The day I knew I had a problem (although I suspected it before) was when I called my sister to help me work through something, crying as I usually am, and the first words out of her mouth were "oh my god, what now?"
She has apologized multiple times - I know she didn't mean it. But I also know I am burning out those around me. I am taking down the whole world as I battle my own wars. Unless I call those numbers I will literally be on my own. 100%. Sometimes that isn't feasible - and that is okay. I just need to be confident enough in calling those numbers. Getting the help everyone deserves.
Mental health is like any other chronic disease. Why is it so frowned upon? Diabetic, HTN and heart disease, lung disease ect - all these are normal but as soon as a mental health disorder is diagnosed then the person is crazy. Something that is completely out of our control and we are crazy. People say "talk about it" the stigma will go away. We have for years and yet it hasn't. People just like to jump on bang wagons to agree with something that everyone else is. But then talk behind peoples back. Label them.
That is what prevents me from seeking help. For now. Until I feel completely helpless. Convince me otherwise.
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Dear Yuletide (2020) Writer
This is a filler post, please do not reblog!
General DNWs: explicit or graphic sexual content (implied or euphemistically written is fine), non-canon-compliant major character death.
General tropes I like: Found Family, First Times, Epistolary Fic, Slice of Life, Mutual Pining, Canon Exploration, Canon Divergence, Friends to Lovers, Enemies to Lovers, Mild Angst, Character Introspection
Request 1: NezhaRin, The Poppy War by R F Kuang
I think I mostly would like AU content for them, because canon-compliant would simply be a variation of H/C and I’m not into reading that (for these ship). I’d prefer AUs like Fairytale AU, ATLA AU, or Boarding School AU (the last one can be canon-compliant/divergent if the fic isn’t shippy! I disliked canon Nezha’s treatment of Rin in the Academy so idt I wanna necessarily read them being romantic in that context. Unless it’s a canon-divergent Nezha redemption :eyesemoji:) Tropes I’d like: First Kiss (or just physical touch in general?) and Rin and Nezha Use Their Words (in a way that doesn’t end in anger or betrayal or both CRIES AT RFK)
Including Kitay and Venka would make me VERY very happy, especially if they have scenes with all four of them. I am caught up with TDR (but not The Burning God) so I would be grateful if the fic is not spoilery.
A specific prompt for a specific fic I’d like for these two (but you don’t have to fill it, it is just in case): A fairytale AU where Nezha is a prince of the Dragon Kingdom, cursed by a fabled dragon (the curse can match canon’s) and Rin is a secret shaman and peasant who saves him. This is an Enemies to Friends or Enemies to Lovers fic prompt!
Request 2: Harryanthe, The Locked Tomb Trilogy by Tamsyn Muir
The Harryanthe (Harrowhark/Ianthe) tag is so empty, I would be grateful for anything tbh. And I say Harryanthe, but I would also GREATLY love Griddleharryanthe (Gideon/Harrow/Ianthe) like A LOT.
I don’t have any specific ideas for what I want to read but things I would definitely like to see: BANTER please snipy snarky bitch banter, Harrow and Ianthe having a genius-nerd-off, Gideon being lewd and flirty towards both Harrow and Ianthe, Gideon being tender with Harrow and a dick to Ianthe, Ianthe being a Huge Bitch but also simping for Harrow (and Gideon?)
Palamedes Sextus is my favourite character so please work him into the fic somehow, if you are able!! Even a snippet of him and Cam being there would be fine.
If you would like a specific prompt: I’d like GtN canon-divergent scene packs with either harryanthe or griddleharryanthe. OR the canon-compliant Ball AU in HtN with the three of them :0
Request 3: ManChung, Hotel Del Luna
I love ManChan couple but Lee Do Hyun as Chung Myung gave me second lead syndrome and I would love more exploration of ManChung. Canon-compliant is preferable, but it can be canon-divergent also. No H/C please! I would like to see happy ManChung, with a HEFTY helping of Mutual Pining and BANTER. Yeonwoo cameos would be greatly appreciated.
Request 4: Character Study, Extraordinary You
I would like to see character study fics for any or all of the following characters: Haru, Yeo Joo Da, and Eun Dan Oh. In order of priority!
For Haru and Yeo Joo Da, I’d specifically like to see a character study of right after or during when they gain their egos. For Haru, the first time he gains his ego as Number 13.
For Eun Dan Oh, I’d like to see a character study of her after Haru disappears for the second time (in the finale) and that one year in the Secret universe. It can start off sad but I’d like to see what the character would be feeling beyond just grief! (Because Dan Oh had kind of mellowed out and accepted her fate in the epilogue, right before she finds Haru’s journal. I wanna see how she got there)
If these are too specific, I’m also okay with a shippy or gen fic with the ships Joo Da/Do Hwa and DanHaru.
Request 5: Gen, It’s Okay to Not be Okay
How did publisher Lee Sang In meet and hire author Go Moon Young? Why did Moon Young agree to work with him? In the show, Sang In says he’s been working with her for a decade, so they would have met around when Moon Young is 18 or 19. And admittedly, Sang In is the closest person to Moon Young before the Moon brothers enter the picture. You can tell she trusts him, even if she treats him badly; he knows about her father, he takes care of her affairs. And Sang In is fond of Moon Young. How did they get to that point?
I’d like the fic to explore both the characters and their relationship. It doesn’t have to be super detailed, or cover both their POVs, but I’d like it if it showed how the two feel towards each other. Cameos from either of the Moon brothers would also be nice!
If this is too specific, a cute gen fic about Sang In reacting to Moon Young and Gang Tae getting married would be nice too.
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