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#like predestinato and matador for charles and carlos
ferraris-gf · 26 days
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need people to tell me more f1 nicknames cuz i think they’re so fun
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ro55ocorsa · 2 months
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Hi, I'm the versainz anon. I also like charlos a lot, too. In the sense that they are full of themes, the whole religious symbolism, the black swan/white swan but also the fact that they are both losers.
Charles is the mold of the ferrari driver now, but to get there has made so many choices that changed him, il predestinato, and everything in paper but has yet to give the love back (win a championship with ferrari), he tries every single weekend. He will die on the Ferrari Hill TM and is forever grateful for the opportunity to drive for ferrari, for the academy, and all that, but he has lost more than he has won, they break his spirit so much, its unbelievable how he is out there still trying, he is betrayed in the lack of winning. Charles is the divine intervention, pure of love, archangel Gabriel, the light of ferrari, everything you want to be, and still not enough.
Carlos is privileged, with the name and the status and the sponsors, but foreign to ferrari, an outsider, he had to pick up a knife and butchered himself so he would fit the mold, fit ferrari, and it's still not enough. He is soft; he has an exposed soft belly for ferrari and is comfortable but is betrayed anyway, again and again (in the sense that he has to do his own strategy so many times, giving charles access to his set up in monza 23 and in the race have to fought charles so hard for that podium). So why keep trying to be good? He gets to be lucifer now, gets to be called El matador, El Diablo rosso.
They keep clashing, but in the end they are in the same boat, having yet to bleed enough for ferrari, the agony the love.
They break themselves for ferrari, they bleed for them, but they are the only two to lick each other wounds, Carlos and Charles.
Ps. If I'm bothering you, just let me know and I will stop
Ps2. English is not my first language, but I hope all this made sense
Ps3. This is all rpf and on the real world is very understandable why anyone would want LH on their team... This is not my point when I'm talking about betrayals. This is more for people that stumble on the post, just a clarifying to separate the real from the vision of the enclosure (my mind)
Lovee,
First of all you aren't annoying me at ALL. This is great!
Secondly I agree with everything: Charlos and Versainz have very different vibes overall, and you hit the nail on the head as to why. Charlos is all about them being stuck in the suffering together. I've always seen Charles as the white lamb being sacrificed, but Carlos as a parallel who's tired of being sacrificed and being pulled around, betrayed is new to me but completes the metaphor so well. Like an angel fallen from grace. It's so good. Heavenly good lamb vs fallen evil devil. Just perfect parallels.
Versainz is also about being stuck in the suffering but with their dads expectations and finding solace in each other. It's about healing from the self mutilation but in Charlos they're actively doing it. If that makes any sense.
Feel free to dm me if you want we have such similar opinions your thoughts are so good!
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interlagosed · 2 years
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At the very beginning of TSOR (yes, I’m rereading it ☺️), Carlos the Elder says in his letter that “I should also note that my decision to send my son to Anglosax is a result of a particularly compelling vision that Il Predestinato experienced with me and my advisors as witnesses.”. What did Charles see? (If it is revealed during the story, I’m sorry I don’t remember 😭😳)
I THOUGHT i'd put it in the story but i guess i didn't!! which means! you get a sneak peek from my TSOR notes/ideas google doc (aka whatsapp messages i sent to @smoothoperation back in february).
Charles gets visions sometimes
That’s a thing that all the princes of seuloger have like he’ll just drop and gasp and speak with a thousand voices and his pupils turn into red outlines with no color in them
I think that’s sort of how Carlos sr came to adopt him and why he refused to give up on seuloger like ofc it was a religious imperative but when the toddler you rescue starts speaking in the voices of a thousand ppl I think you’re like UM OK
Like I think Charles was like “MY HOME IN THE SOIL WILL NOT FALL FOR A MILLENNIUM YET. YOU WILL NOT GIVE UP ON ME YET, MATADOR. RAISE MY VOICE WELL AND FORGET NOT YOUR DREAMS ONCE YOU WAKE.”
And Carlos sr is like …..Well, fuck
I think a week later Carlos sr wakes up and he can’t stop shaking and reyes is like WHAT HAPPENED and he says the goddess has a thousand voices and they all called me peacemaker
And I think that’s when he starts formally trying to thaw relations with Anglosax tho that takes nearly fifteen years lol
I think another one is what prompts Carlos sr to ask Adam to like have his squires trained at fort silverstone
Idk the details but Charles says “Take heart, peacemaker. The rising sun will not set further north.” And he’s like wtf does that mean
Then after Carlos’ first battle [NOTE: it doesn't end up being a battle, but an ambush ofc] he’s called the rising sun and Carlos sr goes …oh
I think he already has the inkling but there’s a part of him that’s like "if this goes tits up, that’s my son in potentially hostile territory"
And then Charles has the Vision and he’s like YES FINE GODDESS I UNDERSTAND
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