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theflyingkipper · 7 months
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There are no LBSCR E2s left.
Would anyone remember them? Would they be another piece of forgotten machinery, with few photos and even less video footage? And in the universe we live in, they are so easily recognizable to foamers and outsiders directed to them- saying “That’s Thomas. He was real.”
Real and made real again in storybooks and TV shows and wooden toys and Bachmann models. Those 10 E2s, faulty lumbering engines with a wheelbase too big for tight turns and water tanks too small to be good enough for the short goods trains they were designed for… became the most famous tank engines in the world. Can you imagine if we still had them? If we still had one? Like wistful lovers of recently extinct animals, we write, we draw, we try to bring them back to life.
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hazel-of-sodor · 4 months
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Merry Christmas! May I present my interpretation of Awrdy's Original Thomas
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whirligig-girl · 1 year
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Thomas pulling a stone train from the quarry.
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nelllia · 4 months
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It's Thomas day!!!
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deergirlestradiol · 1 year
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looking at pictures of lbscr e2s bc it occurred to me that if they had been dock shunters for the back half of their lives then larger buffers would have been a good thing to fit and sure enough it looks like e2 numbers 32101 and 32106 had this treatment
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(top: 32101 on august 28 1961; bottom: 32106 on an unknown date sorry) (both photographed at southampton docks)
interestingly it seems they were only given these bigger buffers a few years before their withdrawals in 1962, as the earliest photo i can find of one of them with these buffers is of 32106 on christmas eve 1960
(also of note is that neither of these two ever bore the late br crest, despite it being introduced in 1956 and they definitely were at the works for these new buffers in its time)
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sparkarrestor · 11 months
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Headcanon: Thomas, in-universe, is a ghost story.
We all know that Thomas's arrival to Sodor was a complete accident. He was never suppose to be there, and the LBSCR clearly didn't know about it until after the war. But they went ahead and marked him down as "Lost in war service" anyways, and the only reason Thomas stays on Sodor at all is because they didn't want to change their records, so sold him, which is a really shallow response anyways, but an entire class was withdrawn in BR days for bookkeeping reasons, so I suppose anything can happen. But what about all the other Brighton engines, and more specifically, all the other E2s? From their perspective, Thomas (Or 105) just went missing in 1915, and they never saw him again (Given that no one told them that "Hey your brother's still around, we just sold him to some backwater island railway lol"). It gets to the point that the other E2's create a ghost story surrounding Thomas and his disappearance from the LBSCR, as a warning to those ungrateful with their lot in life (I'm sure Thomas was just born with the "I wanna get out of this yard!" shtick lol). It could even help work in the "Ghost of Timothy" story, but as the other E2's just misremembering Thomas's name. They only knew him for a month, I doubt they'd have many memories of him lol. And who knows, maybe that ghost story was the one Percy quoted in Ghost Train, which would be really weird if Thomas learns that there's a ghost story about him.
+10 points if the story somehow makes it all across the world, and Thomas became famous world-wide before the RWS lol
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gordonhighlander49 · 2 months
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Just a little headcanon
You know how the IOS book says the LBSCR wrote Thomas off as being 'lost on war service'? I like to think that Thomas was originally supposed to go to France to help with the war effort there, and was reassigned last minute to help build the NWR. But no one told the LBSCR about the change, so when they enquired about how their E2 in France was doing and were told there wasn't one, they assumed Thomas had been destroyed or something.
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bruhstation · 1 year
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wanna give my personal 2 cents on the “why do people draw edward as an old man when he's 30 years younger than james" posts and the "um actually he's an old man and a dilf and awdry intended him to be like that" posts I’ve been seeing on tumblr and twitter. well I myself am not a man of big arguments and my brain always thought of “coleslaw vs potato salad” whenever I see online arguments but to do my part as a citizen of the internet I want to give my own opinions.
personally I don’t think it’s that serious bro 😂😂😂 THEY'RE ALL 100 YEAR OLD STEAM ENGINES BROOO!!!!! 😂😂😂 IT’S NOT THAT SERIOUS!!!!! HAHAHA COME ONNNNNN ALL THE STEAM ENGINES IN THOMAS AND FRIENDS ARE ALL OVER 100 YEARS OLD 😂😂😂 THEY’RE ALL OLDDDD AS FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIKE.... to bring out the big diagrams:
thomas' lbscr e2 basis is 109 years old. yet many people draw him as a young man/teenager. gordon's a1 pacific basis is 101 years old. yet some people draw him as a middle aged man and some also draw him as a young man. the james consensus is also like gordon. NOT TO MENTION THE DIESELS!!!! they are much younger than the steam engines however I saw some people drawing their gijinkas older than thomas and some draw them as old as him. never younger. and so on. it’s never explicitly stated by awdry or the showrunners to interpret the engines in human lingo as “young” or “old” by human standards. because they’re not humans.... biggg shocker!!!!
I like to believe these types of gijinkas are because people listen to their voices and see their personalities and conjure up their personal human designs of them inside their heads.... like some people see the main character energy exuding off of thomas and thought “young man who wants to be useful but also gets into situations where he slowly humbled” and that’s also how it came to be with edward. he constantly watches over thomas and gives him advice and supports him during his first days on sodor. this seemingly wise demeanor coupled with his basis’ age made people create an image of a friendly old man inside their heads. keep in mind again that canonically ALL THE STEAM ENGINES are over 100 years old but people make such huge differences in age in their human designs. and to that I just say: WE BALL!!!!!!!! LIFE IS A SANDBOX.... AND EVERYONE HERE ARE THE PRESCHOOLERS!!!!
anddddd back to the “why do people draw human edward as an old man” argument. so logically speaking, everyone should draw the gijinkas of the engines looking like this
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actually nevermind I hope they all do. that would be sooo funny. lol
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burgerking-offical · 10 months
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time for some ttte headcanons since its pride month
No. 1- Thomas
Built 1915
Arrived 1915
Modified LBSCR E2 Class
LBSCR No. 110
0-6-0T
He/They
Cis Male
Bisexual
Atheist
No. 2- Edward
Built 1896
Arrived 1915
Modified FR K2 Class
FR No. 38
4-4-0
They/Them
Nonbinary
Pansexual
Hellenist
No. 3- Henry
Built 1917
Arrived 1922
LMS Black Five
4-6-0
He/They
Trans Male
Demisexual
Celtic
No. 4- Gordon
Built 1922
Arrived 1922
LNER A3
4-6-2
He/Him
Cis Male
Bisexual
Christian
No. 5- James
Built 1913
Arrived 1925
Modified LYR Class 28
2-6-0
He/They
Cis Male
Homosexual
Atheist
No. 6- Percy
Built 1898
Arrived 1930
Modified GWR 13XX Class
0-4-0ST
All Pronouns
Genderfluid
Pansexual
Celtic
No. 7- Toby
Built 1903
Arrived 1951
LNER J70 Class
0-6-0
He/Him
Cis Male
Homosexual
Christian
No. 8- Montague
Built 1929
Arrived 1955
GWR 57XX Class
0-6-0PT
They/Them
Nonbinary
Demisexual
Atheist
No. 9- Donald
Built 1909
Arrived 1959
CR 652 Class
0-6-0
He/Him
Cis Male
Asexual
Norse
No. 10- Douglas
Built 1909
Arrived 1959
CR 652 Class
0-6-0
They/Them
Nonbinary
Pansexual
Jewish
No. 11- Oliver
Built 1934
Arrived 1967
GWR 14XX Class
0-4-2
He/Him
Trans Male
Heterosexual
Buddhist
No. 12- Emily
Built 1895
Arrived 19XX
GNR Stirling Single
4-2-2
She/They
Trans Female
Pansexual
Muslim*
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trainalt22 · 3 months
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1949-1953
In 1949 1034 was being rebuilt into an experimental tank engine by Crovan Gates lead engineer Thomas Abby a southerner from England was inspired by seeing the odd and fascinating designs of the LBSCR and later the southern railway he especially liked how the E2's looked however their design flaws left a lot to be desired so he drew up what he called a baby E2 (officially know as E2X) In earlier designs, the water tanks were smaller but kept the same, and the bunker was longer. However, the director threw them out because they looked "too short and stumpy." After some trials and tribulations in 1950, a new engine, 1034, rolled out of the works. However, the British government became suspicious that the NWR had an engine whose face looked identical to 1034. So, the military came to Sodor to interrogate the now "Sir" Topham Hatt. However, all of their paperwork suggested that 1034 died on the final night of the bombings. They interrogated the former 1034 after only been rebuilt a few days prior. He hadn't even been steamed yet. The "new" tank engine fibbed and lied his way through all the questions. But when asked his name, he froze. He never had a name. On the spot, Thomas Abby spoke up, claiming to name the engine he built after himself, calling him Thomas. The now Fat Controller and "Thomas" agreed that it was a splendid name.
By 1951, Thomas was still undergoing trials at Tidmouth. He became the pilot for the station, and it was here that his friend/enemy relationship with Gordon began. Thomas teased the poor express engine relentlessly, and Gordon, fed up with his naps being interrupted, schemed to get back at Thomas.
On the day of his prank, Gordon struck up a conversation with the workmen who usually uncoupled Thomas from the express coaches, stalling until his guard blew his whistle. Thomas's crew had just stepped out to find the man when the whistle blew, and Gordon set off. Poor Thomas was terrified, and they made it all the way to Welsworth before word had reached the signalman, who stopped the train.
Thomas and Gordon were reprimanded harshly by the Fat Controller. Thomas promised to ease up on his teasing, and Gordon promised to ease up on Thomas. Edward was brought in to help Thomas relearn how to shunt, as he was finding it difficult. Thomas, fed up that he couldn't shunt like he used to, dreamed of a life outside the yard.
It was around this time that the Railway Series books started to reach international acclaim, and so the Reverend came back to Sodor to write about the island.
In mid-1952, Edward, seeing how fed up Thomas was with his slow progress, offered him his goods train to leave Crosby for the harbor at Tidmouth. Thomas eagerly accepted, wanting to test his range. The trip went well until the incline after Marron. The trucks bumped Thomas down the hill, and he stopped (rather roughly) in the Welsworth freight yard, where the Fat Controller was waiting for him. As punishment for disobeying his orders, Thomas was moved to Welsworth, as well as Edward, and they both weren't allowed to leave the yard until Thomas could shunt trains.
Three months later, James came racing through Welsworth, his wooden brakes finally worn and on fire, screaming that the trucks were pushing him. Thomas, acting quickly, ran to find the breakdown train. While this was happening, Sir Topham visited Edward to ask about Thomas's progress. When they both saw Thomas race by with the breakdown train, Topham thought Thomas was disobeying orders again and shouted for Thomas to come back, furious at the tank engine. But Thomas just ignored him. Topham and Edward gave chase, and coming across Thomas and the workmen, readying a damaged James to be lifted out of a field.
That night, Thomas and Edward were summoned to Tidmouth, and Thomas was welcomed like a hero. The Fat Controller awarded Thomas the newly restored Ffarquar branch line, as James was being shifted from the branch line restoration to mainline work before his crash.
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gundamcalibarney · 2 years
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May I see a Thomas? I don’t recall if you’ve done him or not, sorry ^^;
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I’ve drawn Thomas multiple times actually, he’s tagged around here with my AU tag somewhere.
Younger/LBSCR Thomas on the other hand i haven’t drawn yet, so have a Chocolate E2!
[ Art Requests are Now Closed! 2/5 ]
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coledonianventures · 2 years
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Everyone knows about Sodor’s number 1 blue tank engine Thomas, but what many don’t know is that Thomas’ journey to looking like what he does now was not a smooth one. 
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Thomas’ creator, Wilbert Awdry, first created the world of Thomas back in 1945 when he published “The Three Railway Engines” a story about three steam engines named; Gordon, Henry, and Edward and their adventures on the Island of Sodor. Awdry had originally thought of the stories for his son Christopher who was sick at the time, and after much pressure from his wife Margret he sought out a publisher to turn his stories into a children’s book. The first book was a runaway success, and the publisher Edmund Ward wanted a sequel immediately.  Awdry had previously made his son a small toy of an engine out of scrap wood he called Thomas (Image 4), Awdry decided to make the next book about the engine he made for Christopher.
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While the first Railway Series book was a success, it wasn’t without fault. One of those faults were the illustrations. The very first drawings of “The Three Railway Engines” were created by William Middleton who was an inexperienced illustrator at the time. Middleton was responsible for several illustration errors in the first book, the most prominent being messing up Henry’s wheel arrangement. Awdry was notorious for being meticulous about consistency, and shortly had Middleton fired. The next illustrator that Awdry hired was named Reginald Payne, and Awdry was very strict moving forward. He gave Payne specific instructions on how to illustrate the characters and what they were meant to represent in real life. One particular instruction Payne was given was to illustrate Thomas as a J50 (Image 3), as that was what Awdry had based his toy for Christopher on. Payne was from the South of England and as such requested if he could use an LBSCR E2 (Image 1) tank engine as a basis, as it would be easier to acquire reference material. Awdry agreed and Payne created the first image of Thomas using the E2 as reference Image 1). 
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The story of how Thomas came to look like he does now is an interesting one. It’s the perfect example of how human error can lead to unexpected outcomes. If Middleton hadn’t messed up his illustrations Payne wouldn’t have been hired to create Thomas, and if Payne wasn’t from the south Thomas would have ended up looking like a J50. Sometimes a chain of events can lead to you creating something iconic, something that is remembered for years to come.  
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hazel-of-sodor · 11 months
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The London Brighton and Southern Coast Railways E2! Canonically, Thomas. My J72 Thomas is there just bc its a fun size comparison between the two.
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vanzander66 · 3 years
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All Engines Go is around the corner and what has already been released, fans–old and new–and parents alike aren’t happy. So here’s my RWS inspired Thomas I drew up to compensate.
Tried to draw the face a blend between the TVS faces and the Edwards faces, not sure how I feel about how it turned out.
And I may have accidentally made him a little shorter than what a usual E2 should be, but he was depicted as such in RWS and TVS so… Happy accident I guess.
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feigeroman · 4 years
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A Thomas Headcanon
I have a lot of theories and headcanons about Thomas The Tank Engine, and this is just the most recent one I’ve had. While reading Thomas & The Guard again - as you do - I happened to spot this little detail on the opening page:
[Thomas] has two coaches. They are old, and need new paint, but he loves them very much. He calls them Annie and Clarabel. Annie can only take passengers, but Clarabel can take passengers, luggage and the Guard.
And it was that sentence in bold which really caught my attention. Not only does it imply that Annie & Clarabel were not named as such until Thomas received them, but it also suggests that Thomas himself named them. (In the original books, anyway. The TV series implies that they were named long before they met Thomas, and this is all but confirmed in The Adventure Begins.)
But where would Thomas have gotten those names from? Well, to answer that, we just have to look at Thomas’ entry in the Engines section of The Island of Sodor:
A Billinton E2 0-6-0 tank from the London Brighton & South Coast Railway which arrived on Sodor in 1915, no-one quite knows how! His crew got on well with the local people, both married Sodor girls, and by 1920 neither wanted to be parted from their engine or leave the Island.
Again, it’s the bit in bold that’s of interest to us. Now, we don't officially know the names of the women Thomas' crew married (or those of Thomas' crew, for that matter), so this is what I'm thinking: Perhaps their wives happened to also be called Annie and Clarabel, and so when Thomas received his coaches, and wanted to give them names, he thought, what better names to give them than those of his crew's wives?
A bit of a stretch, yes, but it's a sweet idea nonetheless.
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angryskarloey · 2 years
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Thomas is a J65 & I'll hear nothing to the contrary:
Well, I mean, unless anybody has a better idea... Any-way, the LNER J65, or rather, the GER E22 is of far nicer and cleaner limes then the LBSCR E2, what Thomas is 'canonically' inspired by (although his purest form is a J50, we'll not get into that.) The E22, or rather a 'Blackwall Tank' as they served on commuter lines in London around the Blackwall area, were a diminutive class of 0-6-0 (sometimes 2-4-0) tank engine, of which twenty were built. They were turned out in gorgeous Great Eastern blue, however soon reduced to more austere liveries with Great War and the grouping. They were common sight in East London, working, incidentally, many of the services which would later inspire stories for Awdry to pen. Due to the sharp curves of the lines around Blackwall, the 0-6-0 wheel arrangement was found to be a bit tight 'round the bends, leading the front set of coupling rods being removed on some examples to give more flexibility (this mod meant the wheels could have a lot more sideways motion, essentially meaning the engine was no longer trying to bend it's frames to match the track.) I conjecture that maybe, just maybe, through, perchance, a mix-up between 'E2 101' and 'E22 151' (bad handwriting no doubt) that one of these little numbers ended up on Sodor at one point or next. The First Fat Controller did nothing about sending the engine home, essentially going 'eh, he'll do, we'll keep him. Just disguise 'im a tad first.' And so, the engine left Crovan's Gate with extended side tanks (which did nothing to aid the appearance), the cover removed from the safety valves, the whistle relocated to the cab roof, and a new chimney. It was christened NWR No.1 (or, maybe, rather, 'Thomas') and went straight to work. You know the rest from there. I did a quick conjectural illustration to show the mods, and I'll throw in some actual E22 photos:
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