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nepobabyeurydice · 7 months
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Me being pro-jiper doesn't mean I like, don't like any of the other ships that have sprung up (michale khale and jason for the win) but I feel like the 2010's made liking Jiper a cardinal sin when I vibe with it with their banter and personalities in TLH but then again, usually these people are the ones that turn around and say Frazel is straight up wrong because of the age-gap of *checks notes* two years and a few months physically/seventy years of ghost and that Frank is in fact, a bad person and deserves to suffer.
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edenslice · 2 years
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the more i get exposed to fandom in general (discourse, opinions, people losing their shit over ships, etc.) the more i start to stray away from said media......goddamn i'm taking the L
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11queensupreme11 · 5 months
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I just love how everyone collectively looked and piper and were like “ yes this bitch is crazy “ to be fair she is 💀
Also I keep on forgetting that Jason is a victim 😭Like someone save him, I littery went and bought the TOA books just for this one specific scene.
Ok so when piper dumps Jason she doesn’t explain the breakup and makes it seem like he dumped her ! And when people ask she doesn’t like correctement then and shit😨
Also Jason the poor boy literally doesn’t understand why she dumbed him and even still has feeling for her…..
I need that poor boy to live his best life without this crazy lady 😭
Pipers the type of person who would’ve had the freshman stick used on her in my old high school ( it’s just a stick used to push and trip the annoying freshman’s down the stairs none have ever been injured but like still wild stuff from my old school 💀)
someone talked about this before (i think it was autumn from quotev), but putting piper in toa might've been rick's way of doing damage control 💀
a lot of ppl actually didn't like piper in hoo, but their reasons were more so "she's a mary sue" and all that and not the actual internalized misogyny (this was back in the early 2010s and "internalized misogyny" wasn't a widely talked about/known thing yet). there was also the talk about the racist way rick wrote her character (giving her more european features, not doing proper research about cherokees, etc).
BUT ANYWAY. instead of listening to their criticism, rick doubled down and ADDED HER INTO TOA when he really should've just kept her out (he really REALLY likes piper ok).
if i made a character and ppl HATED them, i would either A) cut them out of future stories or B) listen to the ppls criticism and actually give my character a character development my readers would like. ESPECIALLY if i was SELLING these books. i might lose some money if i keep them around!
a lot of ppl complained about jiper/jasper, so rick broke them up but framed it in a way that PIPER looked to be the victim. she was "pushed into the relationship by hera and aphrodite", when in actuality aphrodite had nothing to do with it and all hera did was give her the fake memories. throughout hoo we SEE piper constantly pursuing jason and the fake memories. SHE was the one who kept pushing the relationship, not hera or her mom. but rick wanted her to be likable by the readers, so he made her out to be the victim to earn some sympathy
rick also made her bisexual. this was during the time lgbtq+ was starting to gain acceptance from the populace and rick REALLY REALLY likes piper and wanted everyone else to like piper too, so he made her bisexual despite her never showing any signs of bisexuality in hoo. even in toa her bisexuality wasn't even written properly cuz her relationship with shel (her gf) was very rushed. shel literally just appeared out of nowhere and piper was dating her. it pretty much got off-screened
and then.... jason got killed off 💀 like damn, what a way to go.
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Fragment Series
Fandom: Riordan-verse
Author: BobInTheComments
Rating: Mature
Warnings: Major character death, Graphic Depictions of Violence, Rape/Non-con, Underage, Sexual Content, Strong Language, Psychological Torture, Psychological Horror, Abuse, Alcohol Abuse, Body Horror
Word Count: 67,304
Pairings: Jiper, Percabeth, Solangelo, Percico, Frazel, Caleo, Paul Blofis/Sally Jackson, Hades/Persephone, Lisa(OC)/Allison(OC), Fierrochase, Thaluke, Maria di Angelo/Hades, Maria di Angelo/Hades/Persephone 
Characters: Jason Grace, Reyna Avila Ramírez-Arellano, Piper McLean, Dakota, Octavian, Nyarlathotep, Brian, Annabeth Chase, Percy Jackson, Athena, Shoggoths, Necronomicon Ex-Mortis, Paul Blofis, Sally Jackson, Estelle Blofis, Zeus, Odin, Huitzilopotchli, Amaterasu, Lisa, Allison, Nico di Angelo, Persephone, Grover Underwood, Deep One(s), NodensHastur, Hades, Shoggoth, disciplina, Poseidon, Njord, Sobek, Oceanus,  Ebisu, Ahti, Tiamat, Elder Thing(s), The Great Race of Yith, Sol Invictus, Leo Valdez, Frank Zhang, Hazel Levesque, The Seven, Mithras, Clovis, Magnus Chase, Hypnos, unnamed bartender, James Forrestal, Admiral Richard Byrd, Chiron, Will Solace, Butch Walker, Luke Castellan, Thalia Grace, Halcyon Green, Apollo, Hermes, Bianca di Angelo, Maria di Angelo
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fangirls-like-me · 4 years
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Y'all talk about how the relationships in HoO are "rushed" as if any teenage relationship is ever going to be friends-to-lovers?? Like Percabeth took 5 books to finally happen, but they're staying together for life.
People do know that sometimes people go on dates the first time they meet each other, right? Seriously, come on. The relationships in Rick's books are so not rushed. They're spontaneous, yeah, bit they're not freaking rushed!!!!!
Also, chill out about shipping people, please
It's getting annoying to see people bash healthy canon ships (or even healthy non-canon ships)
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hellswolfie · 4 years
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HOO The Son of Neptune
So recently i’ve done a “review” of The Lost Hero and so i decided to do it again for the Son of Neptune because it feels good to vent somewhere ^^ 
also, once again, just because i criticize it, it doesn’t mean i didn’t like this book. In fact I actually liked it way more than The Lost Hero (the lack of Jiper will do that to you ^^)
Anyway lets go !
THINGS I DIDNT LIKE : 
- Hazel’s Big Secret. Dont get me wrong, i love her and her backstory is really interesting, but like...The Girl Who Has A Big Secret That She Hides Because If People Knew Surely They Would Hate Her Forever....its so rebondant with Piper’s story in the last book. So yeah, i admit, it made me roll my eyes a few times. 
- The age difference between Hazel and Frank. Knowing tumblr, im probably not the only one thinking this ^^ but yeah, while a 13 years old with a 16 years old is not the end of the world, it still made me extremely uncomfy at times, especially when Frank was rambling on how hot Hazel was like please stop X( and the fact that absolutely no one in the book thinks there is anything wrong or even weird with that like seriously ??
- Percy losing the Achille Curse. Yeah, i get that he had to lose it at some point, because if he was invulnerable all the time it would be too easy, but I just wish it could have been explored more, you know ? Like it was completely cast away with a plot convenience and never thought about again, while in The Last Olympian, everyone was saying how horrible and how much a curse it was, like im sure there were so many interesting things to do with it...
- The fact that they are all just too Good. Not in the sense that they’re badasses and all of that, but like how every time, the heroes always make the right moral decision. Im putting it there because thats the scene with Ella that did it for me...When they all decide instantly they wont capture her, even tho the Blind Guy would have told them everything they needed to know TO SAVE THE WORLD if they did, and that none of them ever really liked harpies in the first place...Like none of them even CONSIDER it !! Even Frank who is supposed to be the one willing to make hard decision for the greater good !! I dont know it just really irked me. I love charaters having to bend their morals or making difficult decision and mystakes, thats always what make them interesting !
- Percy already considering New Rome as his Family. It just...doesnt make sense. He spent what ? One day here ? Two at most ? And some of them wanted him dead ??? Why would he ever thought of them as his family as much as Camp Half Blood that fast ????  I know its maybe a little thing, but it shows that once again, having all the character and relationship development happen in the course of a few days make them rushed !
THINGS I LIKED  :
- Percy Jackson. I literaly had to stop reading when I saw his name in the first page because it made me too excited and i was smiling like an idiot while reading his chapters. I really hadnt realised how much i missed him until this moment !! Hes still so badass and kind and brave and smart and i love him so much !!! and seeing him in other people’s POV ?? AMAZING !!! everyone thinks hes a snack and thats what he deserves ^^ (and the scene where everyone waas omg its Ares bow before him and he was just like fuck this guy was Epic XD)
- Frank : a baby ^^ but seriously i really really like him. He has a lot of potential here, with how smart and strategic he can be (also his capacities as a leader), and i loved to see a perspective from a child of Ares who is  just too nice for his own good, it was really intersting (i would love for him to meet Clarisse lol). And his grandma ? A Queen. 
 - Hazel. Yes this time, i liked of all the trio. I admit i was a bit hard on her at first because i kept thinking “if you wanted a child of Hades to be one of the Seven, why not Nico ??” because yes i really wanted to see more Nico and to have him be a main :( but anyway, i rapidly warmed up to her, she s so fucking badass and brave and she deserves the best ever <3 Also she has the best Horse lol (if we dont count Blackjack because hes a pegasus of course).
- Reyna : a Badass Queen. Jiper is gonna hurt her so much, i can smell it from here, and thats just one more reason to hate this couple...But really shes such a good leader, strong and firm but willing to listen and compromise. I love her !!
- Nico. I love him so much and he deserves to be more present !! Also now hes a prisonner like can someone other than Hazel be worried about that please ??? And seeing him as a big brother was so sweet !!
- Percabeth. Well we didnt see much but the little glimpses we had...Percy only remembering Annabeths name...swoon
- Frazel. Like i said earlier i really didnt like their age difference but their dynamic is really great. They have so much respect and admiration for one another, and it didnt feel forced at all, it feels good to have a couple like that from time to time ^^
- New Rome. I really loved getting to explore this. The other aspects of the Gods, their way of living...It was really really interesting to see. It brings a whole new and fesh perspective on the mythologie and what does it mean to be a halfblood and i loved it. 
- The scene where Percy calls his mum. It was such a great emotional scene to me. Like in the mids off al the crazy stuff with saving the world and fighting monsters, Percy calling his mum is the scene that really reminds the reader that yeah, hes really badass and all but hes also a sixteen years old who disappeared for months and who needs his mum. It really humanizes him and brings the reader back to “reality” in such a raw way and yeah...Almost bought tears to my eyes...
Ok I think that was it. Feel free to discuss it (respectfully of course) ^^. 
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