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Jester loves to make Jane's children laugh. He only has a few years to make it count; most adults can't see ghosts, after all.
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Evil/corrupt! John D'ark ramblings from the Discord
So when discussing the concept of Jester becoming evil, or being Brought Back Wrong in a Dragonblade AU (you can see amazing fanart @thelightfantastik did of this concept on her blog) the topic of ghosts in JATD came up, and I started wondering what the ghost of John D'ark would be like, and what it would be like if he was evil/corrupted, so here are some of my thoughts:
-One possibility for him getting Corrupted is that dying/becoming a ghost warps a person's identity and/or memories, resulting in the once noble Sir D'ark developing more "extreme" versions of previously held traits, like loyalty to his kingdom turning into nationalism and hatred of other kingdoms, or healthy self-esteem turning into boastful pride.
-Another possibility for his Corruption would be that, as a ghost, he heard nothing but praise for his own heroism over the years (he has a statue and a ballad written about him and everything) and gradually became more and more self-absorbed, a celebrity getting blinded by fame. I kinda like this idea more because it feels more plausible and organic.
-My concept for Corrupted! D'ark would that he would have become very self-absorbed, and obsessed with his "glory days" and what he sees as the glory days of Kippernia, and wants to restore the old ways of the kingdom, possibly trying to use a living person as a pawn to do it.
-Corrupted! D'ark would believe that women shouldn't be knights and that dragons and humans couldn't coexist. Whether he held these beliefs in life, or gained them in death, is unclear. But I don't think it would be too much of a stretch for an archaic knight to believe things like that. Jane struggled against bigotry like that even in her more "modern" setting.
-Imagine an AU where manipulative supernatural forces are clearly at play, trying to separate Jane and Dragon and placing obstacles in Jane's way as she tries to become a knight. Jane and Dragon are desperate to find out who's out to get them, only to come face-to-face when the ghost of Jane's grandfather.
-He could be convinced that he's protecting her and doing the right thing, and refuses to actually harm her outright...but has no such qualms about harming Dragon.
-This turns Jane against him for good.
-As if Jane needs more reasons to have a complex relationship with her grandpa's ghost, Sir D'ark's ghost would only remember the Breech family as traitors to the kingdom, leading him to absolutely *despise* Gunther just because of the sins of his ancestors, maybe even trying to harm him too.
-In the Discord, there was talk of D'ark manipulating Jester, and I like that idea. D'ark's ghost could somehow get in contact with Jester-probably because Jester sings the ballad about him, and after requesting that Jester play the ballad for him over and over again, strikes up conversation with him and begins subtly manipulating him by targeting his insecurities. Jester, who might even have hero-worship feelings towards the ghost of the heroic knight, is eager to prove himself to him, but quickly realizes that D'ark's desires would harm his friends. It would cause him a lot of pain.
-Jane swordfighting D'ark's ghost in a final showdown could represent her overcoming all the sexist obstacles in her life to become a knight, and also her loyalty to Dragon and her friends.
-Maybe D'ark would finally realize he was wrong, and that Jane is on her way to becoming a truly noble knight. After quiet contemplation, he is able to move on for good.
-Some miscellaneous thoughts: 1. After D'ark's defeat, Jane and Gunther could bond over having messed up ancestors, and also any adventures defeating D'ark put them through. 2.Also, I know D'ark's name is a reference to Joan of Arc, but it is literally a variant of the word dark. That's like classic kids show foreshadowing that someone is a bad guy. 3. It's canon that Jane eventually changes her last name to D'ark to honor his memory, and in an au where's a villain, I think she would want to improve the reputation of the family name and reclaim it for her own.
(maybe I'll talk about Adeline in this au sometime. I think this au would do crazy things for her character development since she canonically has a lot of baggage related to D'ark's death. Same with Sir Theodore.)
#long post#ramblings#jatd au#jane and the dragon#sir john d'ark#jatd sir john d'ark#sir john d'ark jatd#adeline jatd#jatd adeline#jatd sir theodore#sir theodore jatd#jane jatd#jatd jane#the turnkey family
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I was listening a silly song while dying of boring when it came to my mind that Bella's great idea (sarcasm) to name her daughter to run away with Jacob was "Vanessa Wolfe", I mean it's better than Renesmee, but putting "Wolfe" like her lastname makes me wonder Bella's intelligence.
Btw if every vampire has another identity what names (complete ones) would you think the Volturi (guards and kings) could choose?
The name isn't important. Esme Renée Nelluc, Arod o'Nfindme, Ebony D'arkness Raven, whatever. And Vanessa Wolfe isn't bad at all. Bella was feeling punny, yes, but both Vanessa and Wolfe are legitimate names. No human will question it, and if the Volturi have gotten close enough to Renesmée that the name Vanessa Wolfe comes up, they've found her anyway.
No, the problem with the plan was that it was never going to work.
If Renesmée needed to go into hiding, it would mean the confrontation turned out badly and the Cullens were all dead.
It would also mean that Renesmée escaped, by shapeshifter, from this battle scene. Even if somehow not a single vampire(They're so observant!) noticed a wolf the size of a bear running off with the child they're all there for (and I have strong doubts Carlisle's witnesses would be cool with this. If Renesmée flees, that's all their fates sealed), and no one on either side ran after them right away, Jacob and Renesmée still wouldn't get far.
Jacob has a very strong stink vampires will easily follow. A vampire can go into the ocean and lose their scent, but Jacob can't do that. He has to travel by land. He needs sleep, his pursuers don't. He needs to eat far more often than his pursuers do.
He wouldn't have much of a head start either.
If there's a fight, I can't imagine it could last more than an hour, most likely much less. Everyone would have seen him leave with Renesmée, so it would be no problem for Aro to send a team to hunt them down as soon as the situation was under control.
To say nothing of Demetri.
For any of this, the head start, the race to somehow outrun vampires, the fake papers, all of it, to matter, Demetri has to be dead. He most likely is not, as he wouldn't be a priority to kill in the event of a battle. Jane, Alec, Chelsea, Aro, Renata, Caius, and the wives would.
Let's assume, though, that Renesmée and Jacob somehow get away, while Demetri conveniently dies. This simply means Aro has to find them the old-fashioned way. He'd have to search for them, of course, but he is very patient, very intelligent, and has an infinity of resources. Besides, they're not inconspicious. Ridiculously tall Native American man, unusually beautiful bronze-haired girl... if they live completely off the grid it'd make it harder for Aro, but that'd be a miserable life and he'd still find them in the end. Plus, tracking is a semi-common talent in the Twilight world, if Demetri is dead Aro would get new trackers soon enough. No one is as good as Demetri, but Aro would get the job done.
But, again, no elaborate search efforts would be needed, nor would Renesmée and Jacob ever actually make it into hiding. At best they'd survive the Cullens by a couple of hours.
I think Alice did this whole fake papers and Mr. Jenkins plot for two reasons.
One was to give Bella peace of mind. This way, she had hope her daughter wouldn't die with her. Should she die, she would die thinking her child was safe. It was a very proactive plan too, where Bella had to go through great trouble and secrecy to ensure Renesmée this failsafe, which in turn meant she could feel like she was actually doing something for her daughter's protection, not just sitting around twiddling her thumbs awaiting her child's certain death. It was a kindness.
The other was to keep Bella from bolting.
This woman made it quite clear, mere months earlier, during the newborn battle that she will sacrifice anything and anybody for the ones she loves. Edward's family could die, and Bella would be very sorry, but she would ultimately let it happen if it meant keeping him safe. She made him sit out that battle, lowering the Cullens' chances of making it through in one piece, and in Breaking Dawn this same woman is in a very similar situation, only this time it's her child on the line.
If Alice didn't give Bella this shiny plan, a quest where the MacGuffin at the end is a copout to protect her daughter, then Bella might have done something rash. At least Alice and Jasper would fear as much, considering the very recent memory of what Bella did last time.
So yeah, Bella could have put Renesmée's name down as "Juliet Isolde Heathcliffe" and it wouldn't have mattered.
As for what names other vampires would choose, I think that's best left for another post since this one got long, so I'll just say that I imagine most of them go with their first name and a low-effort or punny second name.
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i am once again reposting with a higher res version bc i was too impatient and just did the smaller sized file for discord
#jane and the dragon#jatd#jatd jester#gunther breech#jane turnkey#jane d'ark#soldier poet king#dragonblade
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More context/explanations for the AU I made with @thelightfantastik that I mentioned in a previous incorrect quote. There's no real name for this AU (yet?) so I'm just going to call it the Curse and Ghost AU.
So basically:
-I always JATD as being a world with "soft" magic-Dragons and that being pretty much it-if that makes any sense, but in this AU, full blown "hard" magic exists, like magic curses and ghosts.
-John D'ark, Sir Theodore, and the unnamed woman in Sir Theodore's mysterious portrait all knew each other and eventually got caught in an extremely tangled and painful love triangle.
-Then an invading army is about to take Kippernia.
-John D'ark uses powerful and dangerous magic to destroy them all, but in order to do so, he turns himself into stone, and turns Portrait Woman into stone too, either because a.He's madly in love with Theo and has a "if I can't have you then no one else can either" mentality, or vice versa, with Portrait Woman instead. Or b. something Happened and he was agonizingly furious with them both and wanted to hurt both of them at the same time and take down the invading army in one fell swoop.
-Army is defeated, but D'ark and Portrait Woman are still stone, and Theo is left behind to pick up the pieces.
Here's where things get a little bit tricky.
-In one version of the AU, everyone knows what happened and just decide to not talk about it because, hello? World shatteringly traumatic wartime event involving magic most people don't understand? Best to just let some sleeping dogs lie and silent statues stare. Because the statue is of magical origin, it can't be moved or destroyed. It remains, a constant reminder.
-In another version of the AU, the Castle Wizard uses a spell of his own to wipe everyone's memories of what happened. He possibly even wipes some of Theodore's memories, as per his request, so he's not left shouldering the burden of everything that happened, or the memories of what the man he loved became.
-Then, somehow, D'ark and Portrait Woman get free. My personal interpretation is that a specific frequency on the dragon sword either reverses the spell or breaks the stone. D'ark is back, but far from better than ever. In fact, he's worse than ever, having spent decades frozen in a moment of blinding heartache, obsession and agony and now freshly dropped into a kingdom that has changed immensely. It's time for everyone to reckon with what they thought they could sweep under the rug. (note: in the amnesia version of events, everyone who remembered what happened would also get their memories back when he returned.)
Miscellaneous(?) stuff:
-In a version of events where Jester also dies, then that opens up a whole new can of worms, like Corrupted!D'ark and Ghost!Jester bonding and Ghost!Jester being led down a darker path.
-Also, Theodore sees parallels between D'ark and Jane, and that scares him. Maybe he can remember the exact details of what he's so afraid of, maybe he can't. Regardless, seeing Jane act a little too much like D'ark makes his stomach sink.
-Also I basically just thought of this right now- What if the secret to everything: D'ark, the curse, how to break the spell, was hidden by the Wizard in the one place no one would even know to look: The Book of Dragons created by King Bartok, hidden away? If Jane and Dragon find that book, they find out everything else too. But of course, Theodore-whether he understands why or not-knows that it is imperative that Jane and Dragon do not find that book, so he starts hindering their efforts to learn more dragon lore. This drives a wedge between Jane and her mentor, making her side more with Dragon (an allusion to the whole conflict of Jane needing to choose between the castle and Dragon in Dragonblade.)
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I’ve not written fanfiction in 10 or more years, but Dragonblade was so bad I decided to take matters into my own hands.
Do you want a story about Jane and Dragon finding out more about dragon lore? Where we discover Jester’s backstory and his true name? Where we find out about Jane’s infamous Knight grandfather, Sir John D’Ark? Where the characters somewhat resemble the characters from the show?
This might not be that, but I’m trying.
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Necessary context: So @thelightfantastik and I were talking about an AU where John D'ark and Sir Theodore were lovers, and then after D'ark's tragic death he became a warped ghost (I actually love this AU idea and I'll probably talk about it more later). Then, while discussing Jester's death in Dragonblade afterwards, this quote was born.
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Jane: My lover turned into a warped ghost!
Sir Theodore: First time?
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shamelessly farming for people to read/tell me what they think of my Dragonblade rewrite where there's dragon lore, Jane acts like a real human being (and participates in a tournament), Jester gets a backstory, and Gunther gets his own side quest because
i die without kudos
#jane and the dragon#jatd#dragonblade#jane turnkey#jester jatd#gunther breech#janster#jane x jester#smithy jatd#pepper jatd#rake jatd#i'm like tinkerbell but i die without attention
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