#its been. a year. no im not dead. no im not back. unfortunately my naruto hyperfix is still long gone. rest in peace š
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hello <3 since i got these asks at the same time i decided to combine my thoughts on them in this post. yet another annoying sjw essay from yours truly on this blogĀ
before i get into these i think i need to preface why im like. i guess overly hyperfocused on a certain unproblematic base (same age au / platonic canon) for them and avoid the ped0philic content like the plague lol
tw for pedophilia ment, rape ment if that makes you squicky. ALSO THIS IS LONG AND RAMBLY
as iāve mentioned a couple times already, ive been into the ship since i was 12, back when it was very very common to not only post untagged (nsfw) canonverse content of the two in writing and in drawing but also non con and the like, so you can imagine how bad my first impression online was. thinking back on it ...as a child i found it disturbing but didnt really register how problematic it really was?? (i know, but i also lived in the middle of nowhere and had no one explain this to me)Ā
skip to 2014 aka me coming back to naruto at 17ish and i had kinda become hyper aware of the fact that there was an increasing amount of people online who had come forward with explaining how fictional problematic content, mostly pedophilia, had been used to groom them into starting relationships with adullts. it was also a time where a lot of people didnt believe these victims, not registering how common it was for minors to be online friends with adults who had no boundaries and no qualms exposing them such content. not gonna get into my personal life here but i was lucky to not having gone through this myself. like... it kinda was my first time truly realising how fiction can EASILY be used to manipulate others irl (and yes i will not argue this, if you dont think fictional media can form and manipulate peopleās opinions on attitudes, countries, cultures and virtues,Ā pick up a book about the effects of propaganda media at least once please)Ā
i, being young, still liking the dynamic but not really the romance, would point this out here and there in the fandom and get into fights with grown adults in their mid 20s who assumed i automatically hated the ship(s) and tried to restrict their freedom of speech or whatever, heard everything from theĀ āage of consent doesnt exist in narutoā to theĀ āsasori looks like a child what does it matterā despite people clearly playing on him being older and experienced. it made me so upset that people were just consuming all this content uncritically and exposing children to it tbh?? not really just sos but a lot of minor/adult ships in naruto in general. and thats where i sat down and thought, i do not want to be a grown adult talking down to children that point out how unsafe the fandom is. theyre absolutely right in drawing these boundaries and calling out adults who defend the uncritical consumption and creation of this content. i do not want to consume or create content that predators could use to groom minors, and i absolutely do want to let younger people in fandom know that i am respecting their comfort zones and want them to have a safe and fun experience. after all, naruto is not an adult show and i think a lot of people forget that!!!! i am not perfect in that regard but its something that i, at the age of 23, am very passionate about and strive towards to.
and i guess thats where same age au was born for me and i have been sticking to it ever since.Ā
so finally we can move to the first questionĀ
aside from the fact that we both dont like canon sos, i dont think it would work out even if i wasnt prejudiced to it anyways. in all honesty, 35 year old canon sasori is not a redeemable character to me, given the fact that heās easily amongst the cruelest villains in naruto (torturing and killing and taxiderming people for his own fun personal gain, never for a goal that served anyone but himself. how do you redeem having over 300 corpses in your backpack that you felt absolutely no remorse for killing). sasori was legit one of the only cruel villains that didnt had someone else pull the strings, which sends a clear message on kishiās part, who absolutely loves to redeem villains LOL.
being that old, he obviously had already been very manifested in what he believed in, even if it was shakey, to the point where the first crack in that world view (sakura and chiyo protecting each other) immediately had him give up on his life all together. that, in my opinion, is not a man whoās going to know what healthy relationships would look like, regardless of it being romantic or not. 35 year old sasori to me has the same appeal as an expired can of tuna and heās probably very happy 6 feet under. heās supposed to be a failed gaara in that sense that he had no one to look out for him and therefore was never going to experience anything but a bad ending in life. its fine that hes dead honestly, it wraps up his short character development the best IMO.
adding to that, seriously, sakura was obviously interested in knowing why he was that way, and called him out for being seriously fucked in the head, but itās weird to me that people assume she had any interest in actively rehabilitating him, let alone starting a serious romantic relationship with him. sakura whoās not only very, uhm, immature and straight forward when it comes to her romantic viewpoints also, as a big bootlicker, wouldnt soil her standing in the village by starting anything with a disgraced and far too gone criminal like sasori. shipping that version of sasori with sakura intimately is still going to set her up for a huge power imbalance that would be difficult to handle imo, even if she was the one in the fight ultimately exerting her power over him. i would still look at it and think damn she deserves better than having to play therapist for man like that lol.
additionally, even if you ignored all of this, you cant really ignore that sasori had already known her as a child, and that had been his first and most impactful impression of her. i dont think that sasori would look at 35 year old sakura and see her as a grown woman and not the little green girl she was in the fight. plus, you easily fall into predatory comparison territory between theĀ āchildishā andĀ āwomanlyā and i have seen way too often in fic just being boiled down to her now being fuckable. a lot of of ships do this and i would just like to remind yall thats it not normal for adults to want to start relationships with children they have seen grown up or known as a child when they themselves were fully grown adults. therefore, maybe if sakura hadnt met sasori before it would be less of a problem? but that also obviously defeats the point of the dynamic and the reason he died in the first place. so yeah, it sounds kind of doomed especially if you were to make it romantic.Ā
WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE SECOND QUESTION
let me preface this that im not fundamentally against age gaps, even if im not super interested in it. after all, colorblind had a 5 yr age gap (with sakura being 21), even if, say, i wrote similar fics today i probably would make it smaller lol. i think it can be handled well if both parties have enough life experience to deal with it, and the author is cautious of where the age gap starts, i think a 10+ year age gap would be fine in a scenario where the younger party (i guess sakura) was at least 25-27ish, meaning she has completed most of her most formative life stages and probably had been in relationships before, meaning she would be able to handle it without having to fear a huge power imbalance. the older the younger party is the less the age gap is going to matter tbh .TsukiHoshino andĀ AngelOfDeath10 both handle age gaps in their fics really well imo, so i do not mind reading about them.
unfortunately, a lot of people in this fandom think making sakura barely "āāālegalāāāāā (18, not even 20 which is hilarious to me because the source material is obviously japanese) because they both cannot stand her being past herĀ āprime yearsā of being young fertile and fuckable toĀ much older men as well as thinking a 20 year old is automatically old enough to handle that type of relationship. ive seen a lot of unironic takes that believe it will absolve them of callout posts if they throw around age of consent and āshes 18 now suckers!!!ā enough lmfao. absolutely hilarious. aging a minor up without aging the adult down seriously reeks of predatoryĀ ācant wait until youre 18ā³ narratives and thats why i find it similarly disturbing as straight up pedo shipping.
ultimately, sasosaku is and will always be a inherently problematic ship in canon, which is why i think it should always be handled a little more responsibly in fandom spaces, ignoring or outright excusing the main problem factor, which is sasori, isnt going to convince anyone that the dynamic in itself is well written and interesting enough to explore in aus, like giving sasori the redemption most of us wanted him to have by aging him down to a point in time where he was still realistically going to allow being positively influenced, similar to gaara.Ā
so really, what i think is well handled age gap and how most people handle age gap in the naruto fandom are two different worlds at times lolĀ
tl;dr
canon shippers have never been anything but gross when i was younger and i didnt wanna be like that, even if youreĀ āsmartāenough to differenate, actual creeps dont really care and might use your content to blur the lines, sasori isnt rly redeemable so romantic canonverse realistically wouldnt make much sense and is still iffy, age gaps are fine if they are handled well, but given that the dynamic doesnt really need the age gap to still work im not that invested on making that an essential part of my shipping experience.Ā Ā
thank you for reading and hope this makes sense!
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my fill for @kakaobiweek2019 day 14: free day. im on my monster bs; enjoy konoha plus 100% more gorgons and witches
Obito hasnāt been back to Konoha in a long time. Not since before the cave, and the witch, and the curse. But as much as he dreads being back here, risking seeing familiar faces, he can at least be sure there wonāt be any more witches. At least not ones like Kaguya was. The city has an excellent grasp on its supernatural population. Thank you Tobirama Senju: master of regulation and city planning.
The streets are the same as he remembers, dimly lit by old lights, but some of the stores have changed. Obito wonders how many closures and grand openings he missed the last decade and a half. His favorite dango stand is gone, and it makes him feel exceptionally old for only being 28. Itās silly of him; it was just a little stand. He detours from his path to the administrative building, where he intends to register the type of supernatural being he is and, well, finally report in as not being dead, to check that Ichirakuās Ramen is still there.
Dusk is falling over Konoha. Itās settling in to be a foggy night as well and the streets are emptier than he expected. Ichirakuās banners wave in the slight breeze, barely illuminated by the shopās single outdoor light. Theyāre still open, and he can hear customers talking inside. A shout, a giggle, and then a reprimand in familiar voice.
Obito would be lying if he said he didnāt recognize who the last voice was. Itās not too late for him to turn back to his original path, content in the knowledge the shop is still here. He doesnāt, instead he slips through the curtain and quietly takes a seat on the opposite end of the bar from the ones already there. Ayame comes to take his order. Sheās about the same age as him. He remembers coming here with Sensei and Kushina-neechan and seeing her tracing her fatherās steps, eager to learn the family business. She doesnāt recognize him. To her credit, he is wearing a mask.
He wonders if heās changed too much to be recognized at all, even without the mask. He was already scarred when he woke up after Kanabi Bridge, but then the witch happened too. Uchiha arenāt supernatural, despite their eyes. He was normal until the curse. He still canāt believe he was turned into a gorgon. Logically he knew gorgons originated from a curse, but he thought nowadays they were all just descendants of the ones originally cursed, not that there were witches running around still using it all haphazard. He couldnāt remove the mask if he wanted to without temporarily or even permanently freezing anyone who isnāt also a gorgon, and he has to keep his hood up in case he gets emotional and his hair goes serpentine on him.
Never mind. He doesnāt want to linger on that. Heād even rather think about Kakashi. If Obito spoke loud enough for him to hear would Kakashi know his voice like Obito knew his? Does he want to be recognized? It would be better to go unnoticed, but at the same time he wants to be important enough to remember. Wants Kakashi to have retraced every memory of the teamās time together the way Obito has.
Glancing over, he catalogues the other customers. Kakashi and three others, all of them sitting together. The others are just kids. He can only see their profiles; A blond boy, a girl with pink hair, and a boy with black hair and a very Uchiha look. Theyāre eleven or twelve or thirteen. About the age he was when he last saw Kakashi. The manās new team, for which he is the Sensei? He canāt imagine him teaching anything. But itās been a long time. People change. Obito certainly has.
He canāt help repeatedly glancing over as he eats. He feels like a real creep, but Kakashi is right there. He looks so much like Obito imagined. Well, considering a portion of his imagining was just āthe same mask covering half his faceā maybe thatās not too impressive. It seems like the others might be ready to leave the last time he looks over and his gaze lingers in preparation for it being his last chance to see them.
Kakashi glances his way before he finishes starring and catches him in the act. Itās embarrassing, but with the orange mask on he at least he canāt see the weird face Obitoās probably making. He quickly shifts his eye back to his ramen. Maybe Kakashi will just move on and forget the strange man with one eye and a bright orange mask staring him down during his team dinner? Yeah, right. Heāll probably track him down and bother him later. Obito had to get ramen and see him, and now heās going to be dodging him every step of the way. Literally hunted by his past. He shouldnāt have pissed off Konan; he could still be in Ame, which is blessedly low on both witches and ghosts. Or at least low on ghosts from his past. Plenty of the other kind.
Obito manages to avoid seeing Kakashi again for a full week. A true testament to his greatly improved ninja skill. He couldnāt even avoid him a full day as a kid. Heās not so clumsy now, except perhaps in the moments he most needs to be graceful and said grace immediately abandons him. No, he doesnāt want to think about that.
His luck runs out on a bright and beautiful day at an open field used as a training ground. Obito isnāt actually training, just lying in the grass enjoying being alone, only to be suddenly not alone.
āHello there,ā a voice calls from a short distance away, āIāve seen you around lately, but I donāt think weāve been introduced.ā Kakashi is standing at the edge of the trees bracketing the field, leaning lazily against one.
āTo the contrary,ā Obito replies, āI think we have been before. I couldnāt forget a mask as nice as yours.ā He doesnāt move from his spot on the ground.
āStrange,ā Kakashi says, āI donāt think I could forget one as livery as yours either, yet it doesnāt seem to ring a bell.ā
āI suppose we met before I started wearing this mask,ā he answers.
āWell then,ā he exclaims, āYou must introduce yourself! Itās only proper to do it again whenever you change masks.ā
āOf course!ā Obito says, rather enjoying their little faƧade of a conversation. āHow about a trade?ā he proposes.
āA trade?ā Kakashi prompts.
āIāll reintroduce myself if you take off your little mask,ā he says, āWhy Iāll even take my mask off too.ā Ha. What do you have to say to that Kakashi? Heās worn that mask practically since birth and never shown anyone his face. Obito wouldnāt be surprised to find out Sakumo never saw his own sonās face.
āYou drive a hard bargain,ā he says with consideration, āI donāt know if seeing my face is good for your health.ā
āAre you being vain or self-deprecating? āObito wonders aloud, āDoes that mean itās too ugly or too beautiful to be seen?ā
āNeither,ā Kakashi says cheerfully, āJust too powerful. I have a very strong face you know.ā
āWhat a coincidence! Thatās also why I started wearing this mask.ā
The air is tense in the field. They stare at each other waiting to see if either will break character or give in. He considers just taking off his mask for the satisfaction of seeing Kakashi frozen in place indefinitely. Obito wants to see Kakashiās face even more than he wants to freeze him though. He sizes him up a moment and then finally stands up and moves towards Kakashi.
āHow about I give you a few hints first?ā Obito suggests, āWe havenāt seen each other in more than a decade and I was born here in Konoha. He comes to a stop just in front of him. āRing any bells?ā he asks.
āI suppose it does a bit, but itās still far too vague,ā he answers. Kakashiās tensed slightly after is approach, slight enough a less observant person would miss it. Ā
āReally?ā Obito drawls, āHow about this: Bakashi.ā His heads jerks at the sound, utterly shocked, and he moves forward without thinking. He aborts halfway through a step towards him, but itās too late. Obito snaps a hand toward him and grabs ahold of the top of his mask and pulls downward as Kakashi tries to step back again.
He is beautiful. However, Obito doesnāt feel particularly overpowered by it. Kakashi looks less like Sakumo than he thought he would, and he has a rather adorable mole below his lip. Oddly it almost sounds like heās being hissed at. Kakashiās mouth isnāt moving, but his hair is. He glances up at it. Snakes. He looks back down at Kakashiās bewildered face.
āYouāreā¦ okay?ā he says.
āWhat the fuck Bakashi. You never mentioned being a gorgon. We were teammates for years,ā Obito complains and jerks off his own mask, tossing it on the nearby ground.
āO- Obito?ā Kakashi says. He looks no less confused than a moment ago and his hair is still made of little silver snakes. Theyāre kind of cute. āIt never came up? How are you okay? Where have you been all this time?ā he adds. He doesnāt seem like any of this has sunk in yet.
āI was pulled out of the rubble by a plant creature. I wanted to come back, but then I got cursed and had to fight a witch to the death,ā he explains, āIt didnāt get rid of the main part of the curse though. Guess itās permanent.ā
āCurse? Permanent?ā Kakashi questions. In response Obito yanks back his hood and allows it to transform. Unlike Kakashiās short hair and snakes, Obitoās hair is long. He hasnāt bothered to cut it since he was crushed, and his meter-long pitch-black snakes twist out into the air around them. Their scales glimmer with a blue tint in the sunlight.
āOh,ā Kakashi breathes. āAre they poisonous?ā he asks
āNo. Iā¦ I didnāt know that was even an option,ā Obito stutters, āthe fuck. Could I have accidently poisoned myself with my own hair if they were? Fuck. Are yours poisonous?ā
āNo,ā he replies and finally breaks out of his daze. Unfortunately for Obito, he does so in order to laugh at his bewildered outrage. āYou canāt poison yourself. Gorgons are always immune to their own poison. Although, if anyone could have managed to do so it would be you,ā he teases.
āItās not funny Bakashi,ā he says.
āOf course not,ā he says still laughing. āIām justā¦ really glad to see you,ā Kakashi says. The laughter abruptly cuts off. āI really thought you were dead,ā he murmurs.
āBut Iām not,ā Obito assures him, āSorry Iām late.ā His snakes are getting awfully friendly with Kakashi, flashing their little tongues to smell him and winding around his arms to slither up him.
Kakashi looks intently at him, soaking in his face and scars, before stepping even closer. His silver snakes rub against Obitoās own snakes and brush against his forehead. Obito stand perfectly still as he waits to see what heāll do. Even his snakes, who often have minds of their own, go still.
Obito inhales sharply as their lips press together. He shivers as he eagerly allows Kakashi to deepen the kiss, and his snakes seem to spring suddenly back to life. They wind around Kakashiās own silvery ones, and do their best to loop around his torso as well. When their lips finally break apart, Obito is flushed a gasping lightly. Their lips are still only centimeters apart, as the entwined serpents prevent them from stepping away from each other.
āJust one thing,ā he says, āWere you born a gorgon? Your dad definitely wasnāt a gorgon. Oh my god, he really didnāt ever see your face.ā
āYes, I was born this way. My mother was a gorgon,ā Kakashi says with fond exasperation, āArenāt there bigger things we should be addressing?ā
āWell, since I wonāt be leaving again,ā Obito says, āI imagine weāll have plenty of time to get around to whatever it is you think is important to talk about. But I want you to explain how these cheeky snakes work.ā
This certainly didnāt turn out to be the reunion Obito was expecting. Honestly it went way better. Heāll take it, copious unexpected revelations and all.
Ā Kakashiās hair snakes are conception bank silver boas & Obitoās are northern black racers
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People that say Taka was the best team/friends for him is like saying a drug addicts friends who are also drug addicts are whats best for them simply because they went along with and encouraged their habit rather than trying to get them helpĀ and off a toxic lifestyle
Just because you have friends that support your bad habits doesntĀ mean their good friends and whats best for you
Friends who try to get you out of that toxic lifestyle to a better place where your clear-headedĀ and healthy THOSE are real friends who want the best for you
I know this is a weird topic to touch on after the previous episode which I'mĀ not downplaying because I thought it was wholesome, but the fact that people blatantly ignore how toxic and unhealthy Taka was for Sasuke AT THE TIME really just rubs me the wrong way
Do I think his relationship with Team 7 perfect? course not, but you can definitely see the difference between how TRUE friends behave and how enablers behave
Whenever Sasuke talked or thought about Team 7 he viewed them like family and precious bonds he had to cut in order to focus on and pursue revenge
Whenever Sasuke talked or thought about Taka he treated them as strictly subordinates, we never see him bothering to interact with them other than pursuing his goals and once they were no longer needed? he discarded and abandoned them without a second thought, he didntĀ even know Karin was an Uzumaki or that he even met her in the past which shows how little he cared about any of them on a personal level, the only one I can say Sasuke even remotely cared about to that degree is Jugo
None of them tried to empathize with Sasuke, none of them tried to talk to him about his struggles or problems and let him suffer alone, none of them cared for Sasuke to that point and if they did then they had one hell of a way of showing it
So my point? yes I think Sasuke cared somewhat about Taka in his own way and yes I think Taka cared for Sasuke as well I'mĀ not saying they didnt, I'mĀ just saying they didntĀ care enough
And it seems crazy to me that the same people who complain about the injustices done to Sasuke and his clan are the same one who support Taka and them supporting Sasuke and his crimes against pretty much everyone
Yes killing Danzo was a good thing but it was still a crime, Sasuke and Taka joined Akatsuki and tried to kidnap the 8 tails which was a crime against the Cloud village, Sasuke attacked the 5 kage summit and every single kage there making him an international criminal regardless if his goal was just Danzo it was still a risk of them getting involved, Sasuke just being a rogue ninja joining another rogue ninja is a crime, Sasuke attempting to kill all the 5 kage after the war would have been a crime
Yes some injustices can be resolved through violence but that is not the one and ONLY solution, Sasuke going rogue unfortunately even from a narrative standpoint yea it needed to happen for him to train with a Sanin etc but the only way to resolve Konohaās injustice was to go through the right channels and expose to corruption that was in it, once Sasuke left and started committing crimes he lost the moral high ground and anything he said or did would easily be ignored and just thought of as another crazed Uchiha who deserved to die
You can argue yes but then Naruto and Kakashi could have said something once they found out but by that point it was like Temari said, it was FAR too late for Sasuke and even with the truth revealed how does that excuse his actions at the summit? against Bee? joining Akatsuki? killing Itachi and Danzo MIGHT have been able to be excused but the rest? there's no way that was getting overlooked even with the corruption exposed Sasuke was still just as much in the wrong now
I'm a huge Sasuke fan but even I can acknowledge that not every single one of his actions was 100% right and just, his actions towards the people who actually wronged him WERE in the right, but his actions in everything that didnt? yes he was in the wrong no ifsĀ ands or buts about it
So for those who think Taka is so much better for Sasuke because they supported his criminal actions [except Jugo I believe heād be fine either way] but not Team 7 who wanted Sasuke to stop his criminal actions and return to his senses and be in a healthy condition again, truly make me wonder if they actually care about Sasukeās well being or just think everyone who isnt a yes man to everything Sasuke did somehow dont care about his feelings or the injustices done to him and just wanna change him
Yeah, change him for the BETTER not worse, if anything Taka tried to do the opposite of that but hey I guess being a bad influence is better than being a good one
And listen we can go back and forth all day about Sasuke'sĀ situation after the war because I agree wholeheartedly that thats bullshit, but realistically speaking the fact that some things about the Uchiha massacre are unresolved like those two elders even being allowed to breathe, realistically speaking what CAN you really do? the Uchihas are dead and the main man responsible is dead and Hiruzen who failed to stop it is also dead so what would exposing everything do at that point? everyone directly involved is DEAD so exposing it really is pointless even if only to clear Itachiās name which I'm gonna say something alot of you wont like
But the Uchihaās were not all innocent victims, atleast not the ones involved and planning the coup, yes they were treated unfairly but does that mean the best approach to fixing this is to overthrow the government? how does that make you look? your proving their suspicions of you right by attempting to be the threat they all think you are, that is NOT how you get your point acrossĀ and demand justice for your clan by planning a coup that would result in many lives lost including your own
Does that mean do nothing? course not, but if you want their trust then you have to EARN it and if you want justice and equality then go on strike and refuse to serve them until their willing to talk and compromise, seriously the Uchiha was a HUGE asset to Konoha so them refusing to obey and offer their services definitely would have gotten their attention and force them to listen and find a compromise, if that didnt work they could have tried spreading the word to fellow citizens and gain their support as I'm pretty sure not EVERYONE in Konoha felt the same way towards them and would have joined their cause for equality
But no, they chose the path of violence and it resulted in their entire clan's downfall and they end up with NOTHING but a bad name, so what did they gain? absolutely nothing, so was it worth it? NO
So lets stop acting like Konohaās the big bad villain that did nothing but wrong and the Uchihaās were pure innocent souls that did nothing wrong to deserve what happened to them because Ima say it THEY DID and their downfall was entirely their own fault for their approach, was it right? of course not genocides never ok and just as the Uchihas could have found another method Konoha could have as well so they were both in the wrong not just one or the other
Itachi also isnt a saint for the same reason the Uchihaās and Konoha isnt and thatsĀ choosing the wrong approach to resolving the problems, there were many other paths he could have chosen but he chose the worst ones every timeĀ so just clearing Itachiās name because of his good intentions wouldnt be right because his methods were beyond fucked up on so many levels
So my point is Sasuke was a victim of both sides wrongdoings, Taka didnt help with that at all, Team 7 tried to empathize and tried to understand and console him and save him from himself, its just that Sasuke didntĀ let them and pushed them away and thats of no fault of theirs since they did try but mainly Sasuke and them being mostly in the dark about everything
Yet Taka knowing almost everything didnt even try to reach out to him or help him cope in any way, Karin youād think would understand and get through to Sasuke the most, cared more about her lust for him and seeing hisĀ āsmileā than actually empathizing with him and helping him through the turmoil he was in, Suigetsu made it clear he was out for himself from the start and Jugo is just wholeheartedly loyal to Sasuke no matter what
The fact that in the end, Sasuke makes no attempt to visit them until he needs them for something speaks volumes of his attachment to them, I think Taka thinks more of Sasuke than Sasuke does of them
He didnt even say goodbye to them before he left for his redemption journey nor did he bring them along on his years-long mission which again speaks volumes
So all Im saying is, Taka being the best team for Sasuke and his true friends is complete bull because I have yet to see any argument or reasoning for this be anything other than he chose them and that they went along with everything he did without question
If you have a better reason for why you think this then please share with me I welcome it maybe you can change my mind, but as of right now all the arguments I see is bullshit or occasionally shipping based which isnt a legitimate reason btw, so if you can be civil then I'm all ears
Note: I didnt mention the other Kages because it should be obvious their ways were screwed up as well and ruined a lot of lives, however what does Sasukeās idea of basically ruling as a dictator resolve? how does that fix and reform the system? Sasuke wont live forever so what happens when he dies? he cant be the enemy that unites everyone once heās dead and gone itāll return back to how things were and thus mission failed another Uchiha dies for nothing, Sasukeās approach to the situation was just a temporary solution not a permanent one and one that wouldnt last long anyway so lets not pretend Sasuke had the best solution to the problem when in all honesty both his and Narutoās solutions were flawed and it makes sense that theyād work together using both methods rather than one and compromise, again we can argue about Sasukeās situation after the war all day but fact of the matter is just gotta accept this is what it is and move on, at least Sasuke achieved partially what he wanted which was a bright future for the next generation and the villages to be at peace with one another without the need of a common enemy anymore, are things completely resolved? no, but its progress, and 15 years is nowhere near enough time to fix decades worth of damage so its still a work in progress and will be for a long time
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My fill for @kakaobiweek2019 day 6:soulmates! Went for more angst this time. Available on ao3 and under the cut.
Obitoās always been a dreamer. Since he first found out what the hokage was heās spent hours and hours of his life just imagining it. Being inaugurated to the sound of a cheering crowd, his clansmen all there, and even the clan head himself comes up to tell Obito how proud he is, that he always knew he could do it. When he learned about soulmates he started imagining that too. Heās not sure what theyāre like, but he knows theyāre perfect and it will be romantic, and, andā¦ Well, heās not sure, but itāll be great.
Rin feels the same way about soulmates. Part of what makes them such perfect best friends is how much they have in common. Theyāre both hopeless romantics, both a bit too cheery, both stubborn, and they both get angry pretty easy, even if Rinās way better at hiding it. Obito knows it would be easy to love Rin. He might already be love with her if it werenāt for their soulmates. The only way to tell who is your soulmate is by getting a scar. What if he gets a scar or Rin does, and the other doesnāt share it the way a soulmate would? He couldnāt handle the heartbreak, even though she really is the best, and it would be so easy to love her.
Soulmates and becoming hokage have drifted a bit from the forefront of his mind, since waking up in this cave. But, with Madara gone off somewhere deeper in the cave and Zetsu busy, Obito can finally think. He doesnāt have a mirror or anything to look at himself in, but heās felt along his scars, especially on his face, and thereās one that doesnāt fit. A scar that cuts down over his empty left eye, right where Kakashi was hurt the last time Obito saw him. Heās certain none of the rocks hit him there, that it isnāt his scar, and the thought that his soulmate has been Kakashi all along has been buzzing around his head since he realized.
A new dream for him to imagine. To get him through being stuck here in this dark, awful, cave. Heās going to get out of this cave, and heās going to get back to Konoha. When he reaches the gate, theyāre waiting for him. Minato-sensei, Kushina-neechan, Rin, and Kakashi. Kakshi has a scar down his left eye, and Obitoās scar all over his right side. And itās romantic, and itās perfect, and the clan isnāt even upset he gave his eye away, because he gave it to his soulmate. Itās great. Everything will be great when he gets out, which he will. After all, Madara said he could leave when he was better.
Drip. Drip. Heās trying to picture it, but thereās water somewhere in this cave. He hadnāt noticed at first, but now that itās quiet the sound is glaring. He wants it to stop, to get out of here, to never here another drip. If he ever hears a leaking faucet when he gets back he may go insane.
Fortunately, or maybe unfortunately, Obito doesnāt have long to contemplate the dripping sound before Guruguru returns from wherever heās been. Suddenly, thereās word on Rin and Kakashi, and heās out of the cave. He leaves his new hand behind and runs, his teammates need him, he needs his teammates. Heās not sure how he manages to run so far so fast even encased in Guruguru, but Rin and Kakashi come into sight soon.
Itās not soon enough. What is happening? Why? Why would Kakashi? Obito should have left that cave sooner, he shouldāve been faster. He should make these Kiri nin pay. He loses it a bit. That may be an understatement. He doesnāt really remember what happens next, or killing the shinobi. But he doesnāt care. It doesnāt matter. What matters anymore?
Drip. Drip. Blood is still falling somewhere nearby from the Kiri nin. Thereās so much blood already on the ground heās surprised to hear thereās still more to fall. Obito doesnāt want to lay Rin down in it, but he canāt hold her forever. Kakashi is already laying in it. The blood has flowed around and under him where he lays facedown. Obitoās indifference breaks, and heās angry, furious like heās never been before, and Kakashi was the one to put his hand through Rin. Butā¦Kakashi still might be his soulmate, maybe thereās a reason, maybe everything isnāt lost.
Obito walks with Rin in his arms until thereās finally no more blood under his feet, and then puts here down gently. He positions her with care, and then slowly turns back to look at Kakashi. He walks toward him with trepidation, and every step feels like heās walking on the bottom of the sea. Miles of water pressing down on him. He doesnāt know what outcome would be better anymore: Kakashi not having his scars, or having them. Obito kneels down by him, and flips him over with the same gentleness he just showed Rin.
Itās the same. The scar down his left eye, the swirling scars all over his right side. Obito pulls down his mask to be certain, and his bottom lip is bisected in the same place he can feel a scar cutting through his own lip. The blood is still dripping, the cave is still dripping, and Madara is waiting for him there. Kakashi is his soulmate, and Rin is dead. He killed her, but Obito canāt let go of him. Canāt let go of his soulmate. Madaraās talk of a perfect world echoes through his head, resounding besides the dripping. Itās not too late. Heāll pick up Kakashi, and heāll take him back to Madara, and the three of them can create a better world together. Then Rin, Minato-sensei, and Kushina-neechan can great the two of them when they finally come home. And everything will be great.
Kakashi wakes up in an unfamiliar place. He can already tell this isnāt the hospital or Konoha at all. He does his best to listen and deduce whatās going on before anyone realizes heās awake. Itās cold and quiet. Heās lying on a cot. Something is dripping in the distance, and closer than that someone is breathing. At this point he doesnāt have much to lose by just peaking a little with his uncovered eye to try and see who they are.
āObito!ā he yells, jerking up, all intent to remain silent abandoned at the sight of his teammates battered face. āWhere have you been? Where are we now?ā he asks.
Disconcertingly Obito just seems to stare at him in reply, as if heās considering what to say or how much to admit. Kakashi had hoped at times, staring at Obitoās name at the memorial stone, that maybe all the scars on his right were from the rocks, were Obitoās. For that to be true, for the scars to be his, for them to be soulmates, heād have to still be alive, and it had seemed impossible. A distant dream. But despite the unpleasant scenery, despite everything else, this must be Obito.
āObito?ā
āWhat happened Kakashi? Why?ā
āObito, I,ā Kakashi stutters. Oh god, he must have seen. Rin, sheās dead, and he let her down, let Obito down. āIām sorry. Iām sorry. The sanbi, it was, it was in her. She, just, jumped in front of me. I didnāt mean to. I swear I would never. Iā¦ā
āStop,ā Obito cuts off his rambling attempt at an apology, an explanation. The blank look heās giving Kakashi doesnāt shift. āItās okay. Itās not your fault Kakashi,ā he adds. Obitoās expression finally gentles, and he reaches his hand to Kakashiās uncovered face, where he must have pulled down his mask while he was still asleep. He traces over their scars tenderly.
āItā¦isnāt?ā
āAll this time Iāve been here theyāve been telling me how worthless this world is, how much better we can do. I understand now that theyāre right. I love you. Youāre my soulmate, and I know we wouldnāt do that to Rin. This world killed her.ā
Kakashi isnāt sure who ātheyā is. His relief at being forgiven by Obito and the joy at his proclamation of love battle in his mind with his confusion at whatās going on and his worry. He wants to say something, do something, leave, but he doesnāt want to ever look away from Obito again. So instead he just stares silently and reaches his hand up to Obitoās face, mirroring the tender caressing of their scars.
Obito smiles at him, and if it wasnāt for something unsettling deep in his eye it would look just like his grins from before. āKakashi wonāt you stay with me? Wonāt you reach for the perfect world together with me?ā he pleads softly. He finally removes his hand from the scars, and steps back, extending both hands towards Kakashi in offering.
He isnāt sure whatās happening, what the perfect world is, or how Obito wants to reach it, butā¦ A perfect world seems nice, after the day, week, year, life, Kakashiās been having. Besides, heās never leaving Obito behind again. āOf course,ā he agrees. He grasps Obitoās hands, and he pulls him up off the cot and towards the darkened end of the cave, towards their future.
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