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#its a poor choice of words as i'm not actually translating it myself...
illym · 6 months
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Thank you @solradguy for your advice... 2-ish months ago? On how to translate things easier. Google Keep made everything MUCH more convenient.
I translated this using DeepL so there is absolutely a possibility that the translation is funky. The textless and original versions are under the cut if you know Japanese and want to take your own crack at it.
ID in alt text.
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If you want me to edit your translation in, send me a dm or an ask with the new text. I'll edit the 'translation: DeepL' to have your username to keep credit correctly attributed.
I picked this one to 'translate' first because of how little dialogue there was. I figured it would be good for a first try.
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trahald-the-burrower · 8 months
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Thoughts on "The Destruction of the Ring" (featured in "The End of All Things" on the Return of the King sountrack), sung in Sindarin by Renee Flemming.
I found myself wondering what on Middle-Earth was being sung in elvish when Gollum reclaims the Ring in Mount Doom; the music is hauntingly beautiful.
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This part. (Lookit my boy, I love him. He be like <:D)
I've been researching this for quite a while. You can find the supposed lyrics and translation online, but I've come to realize that it's not entirely accurate, so I'm struggling a little bit (I'm not a linguist, here, and I struggle just comprehending English words in music without looking at the lyrics, nevermind Sindarin).
But this is what the lyrics are/translation is said to be:
Mi naurath Orodruin (Into the fires of Orodruin) Boe hedi i Vin (The One must be cast) Han i vangad i moe ben bango (This is the price that must be paid) Sin eriol natha tûr în úgarnen (Only thus its power will be undone) Sin eriol um beleg úgannen (Only thus a great evil unmade) Ú cilith 'war (There is no other choice) Ú men 'war (There is no other way) Boe vin mebi (One of you must take it) Boe vin bango (One of you must pay)
But as I'm watching the scene and listening to the soundtrack, it's not in this order at all. And not only that, but some of the Sindarin words don't sound correct -- I was looking through the Sindarin dictionary, and some of these words aren't even IN it. Probably just misspellings. But, based on what I was able to translate myself using the dictionary, it does seem to be at least close enough to what's shown above. (For example, Mi naurath Orodruin seems actually to be Mi naur nautha, which basically means "Into the fires from whence it came/was conceived", so it amounts to the same thing but the word Orodruin was not actually used.)
Anyway, this part of the song begins when Frodo decides to keep the Ring (though the lyrics might be misspelled/slightly incorrect, I'll still use them)...
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Sin eriol natha tur in ugarnen (Only thus its power will be undone)
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When Gollum gets it back: Sin eriol um beleg úgannen (Only thus a great evil unmade)
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Ú cilith 'war (There is no other choice)
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Boe vin mebi (One of you must take it)
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Boe vin bango (One of you must pay)
And that's about what I could make out that definitely seemed to match. And it's quite sad. Poor Sméagol.
I do like, though, that it says "ONE of you", as if it could have gone either way.
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I love the energy and all and I don’t want to offend but as a Muslim girl i can tell you that it is literally haram to identify as anything other than your god given gender. Like I’m not trying to be rude and I’m glad that there a respectful supportive people out there but if you’re looking at the Quran and other islamic book you’ll find stories about how its considered haram. Accepting the islam religion means accepting everything and dedicating yourself to it you can’t just pick and choose.
omg my first anon hate hahaha
i know im not obligated to answer hate but im going to anyway bcuz of i have things to say (sparkle emoji) (im on pc and dont have the energy to find an emoji keyboard)
okay first of all nowhere did i say that I identify as Muslim. i get that it was ambiguous tho so its cool. to clarify,, I am personally not Muslim but I kind of have to act like one so I don't get kicked to the streets or some shit lol and maybe I'm a bit of a coward idkkk but anyways
I would be interested to know what other Islamic books ur talking about btw, but I'm pretty sure the quran doesn't mention being trans anywhere at all. in fact I'm pretty certain, I've read it multiple times with translation and commentary interpretations and anyway being trans wasn't really a 'known' thing back then? bcuz obviously patriarchy and gender roles n segregation blah blah was wayyyy more yk. shit I forgot the word. uhhh yk like prevalent?? ofc the quran does mention a shitton about gender roles,, so yk men r the breadwinners, women raise the kids and keep house and be good wives etc. and also remember the big important fact:: GENDER AND SEX R DIFFERENT THINGS!!! meaning technically u cant be 'born' a gender (omfg my keyboard hates me imagine a question mark here) ur born with certain genitals and society assigns u a gender based on that . sounds a bit fucked when u put it like that actually but anyway back when the quran was being revealed this wasn't a known thing cuz yk they didn't have studies on this stuff,, and yea ur probably gonna say 'but the quran came from allah and he knows everything' well the fact of the matter is he either forgot or smth idk I don't speak for God but trans people definitely exist that's a fact we know so yeah. oh I should come back to my point which was, even with the quran saying those things about what ur supposed to do based on whats in ur pants which is crazy outdated anyway it doesn't take gender ≠ sex into consideration either soo ye that's the most it could've said about being trans and that not very valid anymore rip and that's not even mentioning non-binary people
and anyway Islam is literally all about acceptance and respect and everything so idk it would probably be better if u didn't go around telling ppl they're 'literally haram' for being trans or gay or any typa queer bcuz its literally not our choice (insert question marks) believe me I would fucking love to be comfortable in my 'female' body but I cant no matter how much I try to force myself so I'm sorry dude. no one would choose to be stuck in a situation like this. personally, I believe Islam needs a super massive reformation. well not Islam exactly, but a lot of things said in the quran r outdated wildly now, while a lot of it will also always be relevant, eg. everyone being equal and yk give to the poor etc. i have absolutely nothing against Muslims (I have it against my family for being so forceful about religion - different thing) yall r super cool and ik being a Muslim girl isn't easy believe me, but genuinely seeing Muslim people around and yk, just existing in wider society outside of Islamic spaces makes me feel so proud of where I came from even if its not been the best experience. have u seen the show We are Lady Parts (question mark) its about an all female Muslim punk band and there's only six episodes I literally watched it all today but the message of it is what I'm trying to get to you. u don't have to be the perfect pious wife to be considered a 'good Muslim',, there are so many ways u can show faith. you don't have to be a big strong man who can handle all pain with ease while single-handedly providing for a family either.
anyways peace out that sure was a journey lol and I definitely have forgot some of the things I wanted to say but yea that's all don't forget to like and subscribe <3
(colours r to make it easier to read for people with shorter attention spans,, they don't have any other significance)
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