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#i guess im romanticizing it now bc i need to vent
dumbidiotvents · 2 years
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elyssias-blog · 7 years
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This is just me ranting about JD from heathers (mostly how some people talk about the character, so spoilers for the end of heathers) I just want to get this off my mind. (I also feel like people talk about this A LOT so this is probably super tired discourse if you are apart of the fandom)
So forewarning, I’m like not even skin deep in the heathers fandom, like i really enjoy the show. But I’m not really involved in the fandom so idk how well this actually reflects the community as a whole (and I think its a sizable minority at least) this isnt supposed to be like a call out either. I also haven’t seen the movie so the movie perspective might be a bit different.
but like I listen to the songs on youtube sometimes, like the lyric ones, right. So I practically never look at the comments. But on the r a r e  occasion I do I nearly instantly regret it. Because pretty much everytime I see like a comment or two about how sad JD’s death was and I’m like...
HE WAS GOING TO BLOW UP THE FUCKING SCHOOL AND HE DECIDES HEY MAYBE THIS IS A BAD DECISION AND I’LL SACRIFICE MYSELF SO THE E N T I R E SCHOOL DOESNT EXPLODE WITH EVERYONE IN IT???
like his death isnt that sad, bc no oNE WOULD HAVE TO DIE IF HE DIDN’T MAKE THE FUCKING BOMBS IN THE F I R S T PLACE????
Like I don’t think him realizing he fucked up and making that sacrifice is redeemable enough. Because 1, he was already suicidal the only things he ever cared about in the show was Veronica and 7/11 (and the 7/11 thing was like before he and veronica got together and is only mentioned in Freeze Your Brain) and maybe his mom who was long gone before the start of the show.
The point I’m trying to make is that him sacrificing himself was probably not a “huge” sacrifice for himself. at the end of the show, Veronica had broken up with him, and then he thought Veronica was already dead, like I would be more shocked than not if his character was planning to stay in the school for the explosion after Veronica faked her suicide. Like from a character motivation perspective he didn’t really have anything to live for. Like could you imagine what JD would have done if everything went according to his plan? Because I can’t, like he has no purpose because he does not care about anything else. He let Heather Chandler die (or straight up killed depending how you look at it) bc she had wronged Veronica and his fucked up sense of justice; he killed Kurt and Ram for the exact same reasons.
IF Veronica was gone, he had nothing to live for. In Meant to be Yours, his reasoning for blowing up the school was that the only possible reason that Veronica had broken up with him was because the other students had “messed up (her) mind, they made (her) blind” so he was going to kill them for “revenge”. JD is can’t stand to think that maybe Veronica broke up with him was because his self-righteous “vigilantism” because he was so much better and smarter than everyone else and he is above them and blah blah blah. (this basically fits into one of the show’s main themes of, how everyone thinks they’re better than everyone else when they’re in hs and that everyone else is just stupid. And that you, specifically are the smart and self aware one that sees everything how it is. this video touches on it)
He had also already suffered a gunshot wound, he might have thought he would have died anyways.
However, I understand that perhaps the sadness associated with his character is could come from the fact that if his childhood had been more normal that he could of become like not psychotic, and instead like a genuinely good person? In which case I don’t exactly disagree.
Yet, I’m under the impression that a lot of the “sadness” about JD’s death has to do with people shipping him with Veronica and that he died to “Save her” (but ya know she wouldnt need saving if he hadnt been crazy in the first place) Now, I don’t have a huge problem with people “shipping” the two, if people are very aware the relationship was abusive and like the dynamic from a storytelling perspective (kinda like how people like fucked up characters, bc they’re interesting) As long as their relationship isnt’ romanticized. But I feel like there are some people that don’t quite get that?? idk. But, if you’re sadness about it from the “romantic” perspective is similar to the previous paragraph where the tragedy was in that they could have had a normal relationship that was sweet if not for etc-  thats fine too.
Again, if you like the character of JD that is fine too. JD is a well written and complex character. And I understand that people find a character that is completely fucked up more interesting than a typical character and thats fine, as long as you recognize that they’re fucked up right.
I also get that those comments were made probably by like some 13-15 year olds that were just having fun talking abouta thing they like and they probably have less experience of “critical analysis” in english class, and they just have a different perspective. I also get that this whole thing is SUPER PETTY, like lmao this shit is beyond first world problems really. This post is alsoa mess, like im well aware. I just needed to vent.
also like I am up for debate and discussion over this, It just angers me I guess when I see an over simplified comment saying “nooo dont remind of jds death its sooo sad” or something and im just like no, I celebrate everytime. Veronica might say “say hi to god” but im like “lmao have fun rottting in hell you pyschotic lampshade”
ANYWAYS
thats all i have to say, thank you to anyone who actually read all this okay
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