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camilleonne · 8 months

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Trying to work out Gale age+ timeline, plus analysis

BG3 is my first introduction to the DnD lore, so this is really just me trying to work out where the BG3 story fits into the broader timeline of DnD. All of this information I got from the Forgotten Realms wiki, so if I'm misunderstanding anything I'd love input!

My goal with this is to guess how Gale's personal story fits into the timeline of the Forgotten Realms, mainly to estimate how old he might be and how long his relationship with Mystra was. According to the Wiki, Mystra was only recently resurrected, which means her relationship with Gale is very restricted in how long it could have been.

Here's Mystra's timeline:

1385 - Mystra dies, the Weave becomes unstable, magic changes, and the Spellplague begins

1395 - the Spellplague mostly ends, but the Weave is still unstable and Mystra is still dead

1479/1480 - Mystra returns with help from Elminster, magic starts to go back to normal

1482 - the Second Sundering begins, which aims to reorder the hierarchy of gods

1484 - gods begin acquiring Chosen mortals in order to cement their power

1487 - Mystra returns to her full power, the Weave is finally restored, and the Second Sundering ends

1488 - prayers to deities are ignored, and instead divine missives are directed through deities' Chosen

1489 - prayers begin to be answered again, while Chosen's powers and gifts are revoked by their patron gods, since they no longer serve a use to their gods. Only a few Chosen retain their powers.

1490 - nothing of note happens, according to the Wiki

1491 - Mystra restricts mind-reading magic. Otherwise, nothing of note happens pertaining to Mystra

1492 - the plot of Baldur's Gate 3 happens

If I understand this timeline correctly, the earliest Mystra could have begun interacting with Gale is the year 1480. But because this is when she had only just been resurrected, this is likely when she began to "mentor" him, and not when their romantic relationship began.

It was probably sometime between 1482-84 that Gale became Chosen and his romance with Mystra began. And if Gale was also one of the many Chosen who were cast aside by their gods in 1489, simply because he was no longer useful, then their romantic relationship would have lasted 9-10 years at most, but more likely was 7-8 years. But still! Nearly a decade of having a close relationship with your patron deity is hugely influential on someone's personality and outlook on life, and definitely explains where a lot of Gale's arrogance and hubris come from.

1480-82 - earliest possible time frame Mystra could have begun interacting with Gale

1482-84 - likely when Gale is Chosen, and the earliest their romance could have started

1489 - Gale likely loses his status as Chosen, and with it his extra powers gifted to him by Mystra. He would have been cast aside for no reason other than he was no longer useful to Mystra. This likely happened with little to no explanation from Mystra, forcing Gale to guess as to why he had been cast aside by his god and lover

1490 - this is likely the year that Gale searches for the "missing Weave" and takes the orb into himself, destroying his innate magical gifts and leaving him weakened and dying

1491 - Gale isolates himself in his tower for a year, depressed and heartbroken

1492 - BG3 plot occurs. One way or another, Gale comes to terms with his relationship with Mystra and manages to remove the Karsite Weave from himself

Gale mentions something about being called "delusional" by his professors when he graduated from wizard college (or whatever it's called). My guess/headcanon is that Gale would have graduated wizard school before Mystra began to mentor him. So he'd be, at the youngest, 21 when she initiates contact with Gale. Gale mentions that he'd been in relationships before Mystra, but that she was his longest partner, and 21 fits that backstory pretty well. This means that Gale is either 30 or 31, at the youngest, when Mystra casts him aside. This puts Gale at approximately 33-35 years old when BG3 occurs.

Another important thing is that, at least from Gale's perspective, he was cast aside by Mystra suddenly and without explanation. This left him having to guess why he was no longer one of her Chosen, which is what motivated him to win back her favor. Unfortunately, by trying to win her back, Gale took in the Karsite Weave, which ate away at his innate magical abilities and left him even weaker than he had ever been before.

Something that sticks out to me about this timeline is what Mystra says to Gale when he's finally able to confront her. She says to him something to the effect of "I would have made you my Chosen again, you just needed to be patient. But because you were impatient, you will never be my Chosen again". Likely the key difference between Elminster and Gale as both being powerful wizards devoted to Mystra is that Elminster understands that Mystra is a goddess, and should be treated with a sort of awe. If she does something that he doesn't understand, he just defers to her judgement as a goddess. But since Gale was in love with her, he treated their relationship like one between mortals, not that between a deity and their faithful. Gale's main folly is that he was in love with Mystra, while she was just using him as a pawn to consolidate her power. She probably wasn't lying to him about him being gifted, and probably would have made him Chosen again when it suited her, but Gale wanted more and couldn't stand the lack of communication, and so those powers were revoked from him.

It's really sad because Gale wanted real love, and wanted to be treated as an equal to Mystra. In a normal, human relationship, begin treated equally by your partner is a normal expectation. But because Mystra is a god and would never acquiesce her power, especially after only very recently regaining full control of it, Gale was doomed to be heartbroken. Also, the fact that Mystra cast Gale aside without telling him why, then didn't warn him that the Weave he found was deadly and would kill him, and then didn't tell him how to fix it, and then told him to kill himself to apologize, then ONLY tells him the truth of the situation after he starts to threaten her power, is super shitty. Can you blame him for any of it when he was literally ghosted by his goddess/girlfriend of 10 years?

The fact that Mystra is one of the "good" gods and can't even be bothered to treat one of her Chosen with decent respect, after manipulating him for his entire adult life, is super messed up. It really ties into the subthemes of BG3 about gods and how they just... really don't give a shit about their followers. Even the "good" ones still only really care about their power and protecting their interests. Like obviously Shar and Vlaakith are evil and treat their followers like shit, but the fact that Mystra does essentially the same thing with zero remorse, and then also blames Gale for all of it and forces him to beg her for forgiveness, is... sad.

And that's why Gale is a sweetheart and deserves all the love. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

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beverlysimp · 2 years

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⚠️ SPOILERS FOR SCREAM FIVE ARE BELOW ⚠️

ok so like the movie was ok

so they kinda danced on the fact that Sam is billy loomis’ kid for the entire film and I wanna know who the mom is like rn

also no hate to that actress who played Sam but ion think she was the right person for this film

i thought that Jenna Ortega did a good job acting but it was a lot more of heavy breathing and not like whimpering and other shit you do when hurt

um I like that that liv girl died bc she was pretty damn annoying and the Vince dude

i think everyone kinda knew that Richie was gonna be a killer but at the same time I really liked him

amber was easy to tell from the start bc she was just so controlling but like there was no way she would be able to take out Wes and the jock dude but she somehow managed to take out dewey (ion rly understand that)

both amber and richie’s motives were like the same as mikey’s in the 2 movie and bc of there motives that it’s just for a sequel or requel that is how you can tell that they are real psychopaths bc their motive was just for another movie

um ion like the fact that Richie is like probs 22 and amber and is like 17-18 bc at the end it kinda sounds like they are dating cause they keep saying baby and honey and shit like how tf did they meet (I’m gonna say it was bc of a fandom website or sum) it’s not that I think its weird to be dating and be a couple years apart but if amber rly was that young than to me it kinda is (plus it would be illegal if she was actually 17)

I rly don’t like that it was gale and Sidney that killed amber cause it was basically two 40 or 50 year olds killing a child that just didn’t sit right with me

i literally loved the randy meeks memorial and they brought back Martha Meeks like AHHHHHH😻

I love that mindy (the girl twin) was like totally obsessed with how to analyze all the movie stuff like randy

i especially love that one line where dewey is like “your all suspects“ in a serious tone and shit and then there comes Martha saying “randy would be so proud“ like oml 😃

i also hate that they killed dewey cause him and randy were always my favorites BUT ig all main characters have to die eventually

i def liked that Sam didn’t doubt her sister and still untied her (like she did for a second but like who would put themselves through that much pain just to kill a couple ppl)

i like that most of the deaths were pretty gruesome

that part where Sam saw the knife and was gonna kill Richie my dumbass seriously thought she was going for the umbrella like in the first movie where sid killed billy 😭

amber, Richie, mindy, and Wes were my favorites (ik two of them are killers sadly)

mindy seems to be apart of the lgbtq community bc she was making out with a girl (doesn’t rly say anything abt being gay or sum tho) and she was wearing a gay heart pin (ion know if shes gay, lesbian, pan, bi, ect.)

I am in love with mindy ngl 😋

that little scene where mindy is holding a thumbs up to her brother when they are getting the medical help is just adorable

I WAS ALSO MADLY IN LOVE WITH WES BUT THEY HAS TO KILL HIM AND I WAS SO MAD I MEAN I KINDA SAW IT COMING BUT LIKE C’MON MAN 😡

ALSO WES’ MOM WAS JUST TRYING TO PROTECT HER SON LIKE THAT WAS A VERY SAD DEATH

and the house they used for the movie didn’t rly look like the original one (ion rly expect them to have actually used the original one anyway)

I ALSO WISH THAT STU COULD HAVE BEEN IN THE MOVIE ION KNOW IF IT WAS SUM WITH THE ACTOR BEING BUSY BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COOL TO SEE HIM

and how the hell would anyone like actually know that sam‘s father was billy like gosh dang did her mom say stuff when she was drunk or did Sam tell richie and he told amber or probably sum like that

overall the movie was ok and I’m rly gonna blame this on the writers bc I swear after the third scream the writers kinda got sloppy

AND ALSO IM SORRY IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME ON ANY OF THESE ITS JUST MY OPINION PLS DONT GET MAD

#scream #scream 5 #gale weatherspoon #Sidney Prescott #Mindy Meeks #Wes hicks #martha meeks #dwight Dewey Riley #deputy dewey #Ghostface

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