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In light of Hellena Taylor's announcements about why she isn't voicing Bayonetta in the third game, I'd like to urge everyone who has pre-ordered the game to cancel it, and for everyone else to simply not purchase it.
Companies as big as Nintendo and Platinum Games have more than enough money to pay their voice actors and actresses a reasonable wage for their work, and the fact that they not only made such a low offer, but then lied to the world about it to save face whipe hiding behind a non-disclosure agreement is absolutely appalling.
Bayonetta is possibly my favorite game series, starring my favorite character of all time, and the fact that the developers and even the creator would treat Hellena like this is beyond reproach. You can find Hellena's full announcement on her twitter page.
TL;DR: boycott Bayonetta 3, tell Nintendo and Platinum Games to go fuck themselves.
#bayonetta#bayonetta 3#platinum games#nintendo#boycott#boycott bayonetta 3#hellena taylor#grey delisle#jennifer hale
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The entire Bayonetta charade is fucking hilarious and heartbreaking at the same time, speaking as someone who never played the games and is looking at this thru the lense of "i worked in the gaming industry".
Here's a recap:
OG VA Helena Taylor posted on TWT that she was offered 4k for her to reprise her role as Bayonetta in B3. x
Taylor asked for us to boycott the game (first link) and send money we would've otherwise spent on B3 to charities instead. x
Support from the VA community and scrutiny both ensued
Local xenophobe and deplorable but yet ingenious and beloved Hideki Kamiya posts for the first time (in a long time) in English to call Taylor out for lying. x
His blocking tendencies and general cryptic messaging + the fact he isn't really viewed as the most friendly person on TWT have people siding with Taylor more than before. x/x/x
Hideki's account is suspended/gone from TWT for some time. x/x/x
Taylor is outed as a Blue Lives Matter supporter and TERF x/x
Replacement VA Jennifer Hale makes a statement regarding the situation but it is brief due to NDA x
Suspicions grow due to both Hale and Taylor being union VAs, and the game being union; something doesn't add up
Days after the videos and ridicule Bloomberg releases an article adding more details to the controversy
"Platinum Games sought to hire Taylor for at least five sessions, each paying $3,000 to $4,000 for four hours" contradicts Taylors own telling of voicing the entire of Bayonetta 3 for 4K.
Jennifer Hale is seen liking and retweeting some of the posts regarding the Bloomberg article
Jennifer Hale was allegedly outed as ableist and antivaxx via 5 years old tweets. x
Note about the last one; some people are claiming her apologies are enough, some are saying she's never directly apologized and only claimed she was misunderstood. Come to your own conclusion.
Will be updated when more stuff is known.
Updates 24Oct:
Platinum Games Official Statement.
H Taylor makes an announcement Twitter thread admitting that her initial offer was not 4k but instead 10k, mentioning it was then bumped to 15k.
In the announcement she also mentions that after declining and waiting 11 months in silence, they offered "a flat fee to voice some lines for 4,000 dollars."
"There were not “extensive negotiations.”" is in direct contradiction with P.Games's statement.
People keep asking where she's pulling the 450mil figure regarding the Bayonetta games. x/x/x
Personal Note, take with a grain of Basalt:
She claims "Any other lies, such as 4,000 for 5 sessions are total fabrications."; The 4k for 5 sessions, P.Games claims, was for her initial offer she refused. Seemingly, Taylor conflates and confused details from her own side.
Update 28thOct: It got worse.
Jessrine pointed out a very important note regarding the payment discourse/Bloomberg Article
The Bloomberg article stating "Taylor asked for a six-figure sum as well as residuals on the game" while she specified she never asked for $250.000.
New Twitt Thread from H Taylor claiming her post "hit a nerve with a lot of people." x
Down in the thread she lists charities to which you can donate
These tweets sum up the majority public reaction pretty damn well. x/x/x
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It's really funny how a UK Based VA is attempting to call to arm for donations to an anti-abortion/pro-life "Charity" across the pond all the way in the US of A. Because BB4Life is Kentucky Based.
#Bayonetta#Jennifer Hale#hellena taylor#Bayonetta 3#drama#wolf talk#updated#discourse#bayonetta 3 drama
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if y'all are angry on behalf of Charles Martinet, this shit just happened to the VA for Bayonetta
In a heartbreaking video on Twitter, Hellena Taylor stated the reasons she did not reprise her role: the Bayonetta franchise has made almost half a billion dollars (not including merchandise) and Platinum Games offered her a $4,000 flat rate to do voice work for the entire third game.
"I was just asking for a decent, dignified, living wage. What they did was legal, but it was immoral."
Imagine spending 7.5 years studying and perfecting your craft, voicing a character for over a decade, and then getting offered roughly 2 months rent to prop up a franchise worth half a billion dollars.
#bayonetta#the bayonetta recast#bayonetta 3#hellena taylor#nintendo#WHAT THE FUCK#IM READY FOR VIOLENCE#voice actors are so important and so overlooked and constantly fucked over by the industry and this needs to stop
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You know what makes this whole situation even worse?
In the most recent trailer you can very obviously see that there are MULTIPLE BAYONETTAS in the game. That means not only did she get offered 4K to voice THE MAIN CHARACTER but also multiple side characters.
Absolutely disgusting.
#bayonetta#Hellena Taylor#bayonetta 3#cereza#Jeanne#nintendo#platinum games#voice acting#bayonetta 2
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Hideki Kamiya getting flagged as a bot because hes blocked so many people on twitter over the mistreatment of Hellena Taylor is the funniest thing I've seen in a while
#bayonetta#hideki kamiya#hellena taylor#i am dying honestly honestly ive lost so much respect for platinum#hellena deserves so much more
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Yeesh, looks like this situation just got a whole lot messier
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Platinum games and Nintendo really went through all that work to quell the drama of the Bayonetta 3 release only to give us one of the messiest storylines and one of the worst endings in gaming history. Wow, what a week.
#bayonetta#bayonetta 3#platinum games#yusuke miyata#Yuji Nakao#hideki kamiya#nintendo#my opinion#hellena taylor
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So for anyone who was doubting or was sure that Hellena is going to be in the game somehow (cameo or something in the story) - here’s your answer.
Not, she’s not going to be. And I think ever since they announced the change, it was clear as day.
And here’s a whole thing you can listen to and should listen to.
#bayonetta 3#bayonetta#hellena taylor#**links#respect original voices actors#lately there's been so many news about how actual voice actors get underpaid#(look at the whole anime dub fiasco)
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Hellena Taylor didn't just betray Platinum who had only treated her with respect with her lies, but betrayed fans of Bayonetta, & the voice acting community. I believed her implicitly because of all the problems VAs face, & she used those problems to try & hurt her former employers because they wouldn't pay her 100k for 20 hours of work & got Jennifer Hale, an outspoken advocate for better pay for VAs, harassed & treated like a scab.
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Addendum to the Helena Taylor situation: she admited that she wasn’t telling the truth about platinum games initial offer and it wasn’t just 4k but 10k, alongside some other poor demeanor like throwing Jennifer Hale under the bus alongside platinum when she just took a job offer.
So first of all this sucks because this is potentially gonna be a blemish for voice actors and is going to be used against them whenever a voice actor will try to fight for their rights.
BUT
My initial point still stands, the western voice acting industry IS a shitshow of missmanagement and abuse and just because this case might fizzle out, it doesn’t mean every case of voice actor mistreatment should be treated as a boy who cried wolf scenario.
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Bayonetta: Okay imagine this. An alternate timeline where my hair is braided.
Jeanne: Okay.
Bayonetta: And there are multiple copies of me.
Jeanne: Uh huh.
Bayonetta: And one of them is straight as fuck for some reason.
Jeanne: Pffft, AHAHAHAHAHA!!!
#bayonetta#bayonetta 2#platinum games#Bayonetta 3#hellena taylor#grey delisle#need a picture of Jeanne on the floor dying of laughter#I don’t really know why I came up with this one I think it’s cuz I’m replaying number one#and seeing allllll the moments between Bayo and jeanne again and laughing at the clear intimacy between them
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Hellena Taylor's story simply will not end, as she's gone from hero to villain so quickly we've barely had time to breathe. In what SHOULD be the last video on the Bayonetta 3 saga, let's see how Taylor definitively tanked all her sympathy.
Spoiler: being an anti-abortion TERF didn't help her case!
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Chris Pratt got paid a shit load of money to phone in it as Mario in an animated movie.
And yet Hellena Taylor is fired and replaced for asking not to be paid peanuts to reprise her role as Bayonetta in the third installment of the popular series.
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people are being so astronomically stupid about voice actors and specifically the bayonetta recast, like these Twitter losers are calculating out "oh well she would have made $25/hr which is actually pretty good, so, she shouldn't complain"
1) that's an absolute shit wage for going to school for 5+ years perfecting a skill and working in a field for over a decade, it's barely a livable wage for a sole earner where these industries are based
2) NOBODY BATS AN EYE at live action actors getting millions in residuals, even bit actors or one-off cameos where somebody's on screen for 10 minutes they get paid bank, but somehow a voice actor whose job it is to breathe life into an iconic character only deserves pennies in comparison?
it reminds me so much of that post about how people bitch about graphic artists charging "so much" for a logo "that takes an hour to make" without considering the YEARS of unpaid training and practice that went into getting there (and paying your way through school)---people truly think that anybody can scribble out something in MS paint, they think they could walk into a studio and talk into a microphone and it would be as good as a trained voice actor. there is no respect for artists or their skills. fuck.
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