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Information on some of my favorite Girlsies !!! For sillies !!!
(working title was me infodumping about girlsies under the excuse that it is relevent to the event)
I don't have the energy to go through & update this post at the moment, but @thegroundsofbrooklyn has a post here that has more info on the UK Brooklyn Girls !!!
Starting out with our number one, the original girlsie: Charlie (Hard Promises) !!!
Charlie was the original love interest for Jack in Hard Promises, and she was a newsie !! Her story was that she was living in a house of prostitution with her aunt (with her aunt trying to shield her from as much as possible to stop her from going into that life / being exposed to it) and she was planning to (and did!) go with Jack to Santa Fe at the end.
Next up: Smalls (Papermill - Broadway) (Manhattan / Possibly The Bronx) !!!:
I know that whether or not Smalls is a girl is up to interpretation but I am interpreting her as a girl & including her in this list (same with Sniper).
Smalls is a Bronx newsie (as implied by her yelling so's da Bronx during Brooklyn's Here), but she's still allowed in Manhattan (hence being there for KoNY in some versions), so she's probably allowed to wander around on her own.
According to Liana Hunt, she lives in a family with at least one parent and a ton of brothers who all work to support them, so she's sort've eager to be one of the boys in that sense — she's also super tough.
Talls !!! (Broadway) (Manhattan / Possibly The Bronx):
Talls was Caitlyn Caughell's newsie whenever she was on for that track. I have no information on her besides the fact that she was played by Caitlyn Caughell & is probably a play on her height of some kind — + also being a play on Smalls. Smalls & Talls <3
Sniper !!! (Tour) (Manhattan / Possibly The Bronx):
I'm going to be mixing in other backstories for this because as far as I'm aware Sniper's the only newsie on that list with a backstory that isn't from their actress ? + she has more involvement in the show when she isn't a girl so I'm going off that
But according to Alex Wong — Sniper's last name is Wah, and she's the daughter (son in this backstory but it's okay) of Sam Wah, who owns the laundromat above Jacobi's (the sign of which can be seen in the pre-uksies Jacobi scenes). She's named after her 'incredible aim' with a slingshot.
In certain versions, she's one of the scabs, the last one to throw down her papers, and the one to go 'Ah, what the hell? My father's gonna kill me anyway!' in the proshot. In the tour, she was also the one to yell so's da bronx.
Puddles !!! (Tour) (Manhattan / Possibly The Bronx):
Puddles is in the same group as Talls in the sense that there is like no canon lore about her & there isn't even any information besides her name and the fact that she was played by Melissa Steadman Hart during the tour. However she has the cutest nickname and deserved to be included in this list.
Marriott! Buttons !!! (Marriott) (Manhattan):
According to Adrienne Storrs, the actress for Buttons, she's been a newsie for three years. Her parents are poor Italian immigrants that don't speak English, so she works to support them. She was convinced to start selling Newspapers by JoJo after being caught pickpocketing on the street.
Buttons & JoJo are best gal pals, she sees Specs as a younger brother figure (she's always looking out for him), and Race and Albert are her favorite people to joke around with!
She has (had?) a rich boyfriend that went to jail for forgery a bit before the strike, so she's a little heartbroken during it, but she's 'continuing to live her life and she has the best newsie friends'.
She has a really positive mindset in general.
She also (along with JoJo) checked Katherine out when she walked into Jacobi's and later taught her how to Irish dance during KoNY with JoJo !!!
Marriott! JoJo !!! (Marriott) (Manhattan):
According, once again, to Adrienne Storrs, JoJo (who's real name is Josephine) is 'one tough cookie'. She was originally a pickpocket, but Jack found her and took her under her wing for ten percent of her earnings when she was almost twelve. She was one of the original newsies in the Manhattan group, and after three years she started seeking out other girl newsies (& that's when Buttons came along !!). She's been a newsie for about five years, 'not too far behind how long Jack had been selling'.
She has an Irish father and a Romanian mother and they were circus artists that came to America with P.T Barnum in the 1870s. She was born in 1882 (making her seventeen at the time of the strike) and she was raised around a circus.
Rafaela (Marriott) (Brooklyn):
Once again, according to Adrienne Storrs, Rafaela's parents moved from Spain to Puerto Rico in the 1880s and she was born there in 1885. They moved to New York City when she was five and she's very close with her brothers, who were six and eight at the time. All three children became newsies at the same time, being expected to work as much as their parents did.
She didn't go to school, she taught herself how to read and speak English, using her time as a newsie as a teaching device. She's super tough, and she had to grow up really fast. She 'has a strong sense of community with her family and fellow Brooklyn Newsies'.
Joey (Marriott) (Brooklyn):
You guessed it, information yet again from Adrienne Storrs!
Joey is Racetrack Higgins' cousin, and she's super positive. She's also secretly a really good fighter.
Hildy (Marriott) (Brooklyn):
You'll never guess where this info is from.
Hildy is German, and her parents own a sausage shop, and she likes to get into trouble.
Honorable mention to Nancy, Hazel, and Muriel from Newsies Jr.
I don't have the energy to read through all of newsies jr rn to find out which lines they have, however I can tell you off the top of my head that they are very supportive of Katherine and probably also on the younger side (because. Newsies Jr. Obviously).
If anyone who's played them would like to mention their backstory in the rbs or in this accs ask box, that would be lovely !!!
Spot Conlon (UK) (Brooklyn):
Using Lillie-Pearl's backstory for Spot here, because Clarice never got the opportunity to share hers if she had one :(
Lillie-Pearl's backstory for Spot is that her parents were Irish and African American immigrants living in Seneca Village.
Spot in Uksies is very close with Davey !!! According to Lillie-Pearl, she doesn't call him Davey, she calls him David, and in her cameo description she added 'making rhymes with Davey' into her list of things she enjoyed. She is also very close with her girls (obviously), specifically Lucky & Stray, who she did the handshake with depending on what point in the show it was. She also liked Race, depending on the day.
(She also probably isn't on awful terms with most of the Manhattan newsies, especially if they're girls.)
Lucky (Newsies UK) (Brooklyn):
Lucky doesn't have a lot of canon lore too her HOWEVER I can tell you that she used to do the handshake with Spot back when she existed, was called Tops for some performances, AND her real name is Eliza !!! She also interacted with Scope a lot during The Rally.
Mack (Newsies UK) (Brooklyn):
Mack's real name is Jeanie MacDonald, but she shortened it down to Mack because she didn't like her name.
She's a Scottish immigrant whose family moved to the U.S (just North of New York) to start a farm, but a plague of locusts destroyed the farm, so they had to move into the city for work.
She couldn't stand being stuck in their one bedroom cramped apartment, so her father suggested that she take up work as a Newsie.
Splint (Newsies UK) (Brooklyn):
Splint's arm is in a Splint !!! For some mystery reason that definitely isn't because Bobbie's hand was injured at the time of the first preview. Definitely not.
She doesn't appear after The Rally, which is because — according to Bobbie — she falled down & died :( (Bobbie needed 2 be there as Hannah)
Also her real name is Splinty McSplint.
(Bobbie also said that if she were to have a love interest it would be Buttons.)
Scope (Newsies UK) (Brooklyn):
I have no canon info about Scope besides the fact that she has the world's cutest pigtails and hung around Lucky at The Rally a lot :(
Ritz (Newsies UK) (Brooklyn):
Ritz' real name is Rita, and her nickname comes from ritz crackers and also Lucy's last characters name !! That's all the canon info we have on her as far as ik :(
Stray (Newsies UK) (Brooklyn):
Stray's nickname comes from her feeding all of the stray animals of New York !!!
She is related to Specs in some way (probably siblings, considering the fact that Sam & Immie are).
She becomes a Bowery Beauty when she's older, and her real name is from a newsgirl turned dancer but Immie doesn't remember who that is — the closest I got in my research is Lillian Russell, who wasn't a newsgirl but yk close enough.
(Her love interest would've been Mike !!)
Pips (Newsies UK) (Brooklyn):
Again, no canon information on Pips as far as I'm aware, besides the fact that she is literally adorable
#girlsies week 2023#newsies#girlsies#newsies uk#uksies#spot conlon#smalls newsies#brooklyn girlsies#hard promises#toursies#bwaysies#i was gonna add references & stuff 2 this but it's 1am & i'm tired#i just want 2 get this over with#anyways !! yeah !! i'm normsl#askbox is always open if you have questions / notes
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Every canon Newsie post UKsies
I know there’s already lists, but they don’t include uksies and i wanted to make an up to date list for reference
Albert [DaSilva]
Barney Peanuts
Boots
Bumlets
Buttons (Benjamin Davenport)
Crutchie/Crutchy [Morris]
Davey [Jacobs]
Dutchy
Elmer
Finch (Patrick Cortes)
Henry [Butler]
Hotshot
Ike
Itey
Jack [Kelly] (Francis Sullivan)
Jake
Jojo (Josephino Jorgelino de la Guerra)
Kenny
Kid blink
Knobs/ Coffee Bean
Les [Jacobs]
Lucky
Mac
Mike
Mud
Mush
Pie Eater
Pips
Racetrack Higgins
Ritz
Romeo
Scope
Skittery
Smalls
Sniper
Snipeshooter
Snitch
Snoddy
Specs
Spike
Splasher
Splint
Spot Conlon
Stray
Swifty
Tenpin
Tommy Boy
Tumbler
Vince/ Myron
Willie /Bart
York
I believe that’s everyone from Hard Promises (original 1991 script), Newsies 1992, Broadway and Newsies live, and Newsies UK
#newsies#newsies uk#uksies#broadway#musicals#newsies live#newsies broadway#west endsies#west end#92sies#hard promises#1992sies#newsies 1992#have I missed anyone?
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trans jack kelly hcs because he is all i think about (some hard promises details because that version of jack is so special to me)
• for a long time he considered just keeping francis as its traditionally a guys name when its spelt with the i but ultimately he just needed a change. and then he changed his last name too because fuck the sullivans. guess what stuck though! malcom. full name: jack malcom kelly. (so silly)
• his trans awakening was buffalo bill who he saw in one of the papes one time. he became obsessed with the outfit, beard, and general cowboy vibe. he thought sanfa fe might be more accepting than new york.
• insecure about his body but won’t let anyone know it. changes in front of the rest of the newsies and they’re all real used to it by now. when a new newsie comes to the lodging house race immediately shuts down all questions with “huh? no that’s my brother jack!”
• jack worked out like nobodies business when all the other newsies hit puberty. he’d sell newspapers by day and then stay up all night doing pushups, desperate to build muscle mass. this routine carried him all the way through the strike until crutchie was like “dude chill out”
• binds with literally anything he can find. he doesn’t ever want to waste clothing that could be used for the other boys so he usually asks medda for a spare piece of fabric or some bandages that she might have lying around.
• speaking of medda, she teaches jack how to contour his face to look sharper. jack feels bad wasting her makeup so he insists he’ll only use it on special occasions like on a first date with davey perhaps?
#newsies#newsies fandom#jack kelly#trans jack kelly#hard promises#javid#please somebody else make some trans jack content im desperate#my fave hc ever
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#I haven’t even finished capping this but I couldn’t even wait to make gifs#the way this man dresses I can’t#dear father I have sinned I can’t stop thinking about fucking this man thankyou#billy petersen#william petersen#hard promises
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re-reading the hard promises script got me thinking about katherine pulitzer sneaking out her window at night to go visit sarah. something about the starcrossed love of miss socialist pro-union revolutionary and miss my dad is the biggest rich asshole in the entire city and my teenage rebellion is trying to become a journalist who defames him is so important to me
#i just know they go stargazing#please please please someone write the fic right now#newsbians#newsies#hard promises#92sies#sarah jacobs#katherine pulitzer
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me when jack and michael!! me when jack and his little brother!! me when jack and his canon (not canon) little brother who was like les but younger!!
#newsies#jack kelly#hard promises#when i talk about jack assume its about hard promises jack#he just had so much charm disney didnt dare bring#the lore it comes with too…#hard promises 🔛🔝
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Michael Sullivan exists to Me okay if I ever talk about Jack ever know that he had a baby brother
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Please i NEED to know what was Hard Promises about, like we know so little about it (we know about Michael and Charlie) but i need to know the whole thing. Like what was the original story about?
I know that theres an old script that is something close to Hard Promises but that script was written after Disney bought Newsies, so thats not the original story.
I WANNA KNOW THE ORIGINAL STORY
#please help#this is what keeps me up at night#what was newsies about before being newsies#newsies#jack kelly#newsies 1992#92sies#livesies#newsies broadway#hard promises#charlie newsies
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Hard Promises - 1991
(part 2)
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Had a dream that I wrote Bill Pullman an email asking him to please tell us everything he remembered about the original Hard Promises script.
#hes still alive i could do it!#so is ann-margaret but shes like 90#damn she looks good for her age in newsies#92sies#hard promises#bryan denton
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Otto and Stray!! Their pants match 🤭
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it’s not your fault.
#editing angst to a family guy audio was an experience#newsies#92sies#newsies 1992#jack kelly#hard promises#newsies edit
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Always thinking about this. Btw. Like. We know about Charlie, we know part of her story (even though there is always more 2 learn about her & I want 2 know all of it) but what other girls are we missing ?? What canon 92sies newsies were originally girls ?? There are more girls :( & we'll very likely never learn anything new about them :(
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so actually before newsies was a cutesy family musical there was a much darker script called hard promises that got scrapped for the campy musical because its disney yknow theyre a family company but its actually really interesting and
#hi guys.#charlie.txt#newsies#newsies 1992#hard promises#scott pilgrim#spvtw#spto#scott pilgrim takes off
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#this has become my favourite billy movie so far#because he smiles SO MUCH and it melts my cold dead heart#seriously i am INFATUATED#william petersen#billy petersen#hard promises
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writing a newsbians fic with background javid in the hard promises universe for solidarity reasons and also cause im a prophet and god said to
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