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Greenland dogs fighting
By: E. M. Weyer, Jr.
From: Natural History Magazine
1936
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sled doggos
#i'll switc to the BOB photos when theyre released ig#they were so slow to switch from slow cam the judge was already on them#+ greenland dog was way too active in the ring to actually get stills of - judged by espen engh whos a sighthound specialist known for#absolutely roasting dogs in his critiques#crufts24#alaskan malamute#canadian inuit dog#greenland dog#siberian husky
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Freya
Commission for foxjump
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Hello, do you know something about the temperament of the Greenland dogs comparated for example to other nordic/primitive breeds like Siberian Husky or Alaskan Malamute? I can't find much about them online. They are so extreme and work-driven as many told and cannot be only pets?
Well it would highly depend on what your definition of "pet" is. If your idea of a pet dog is a dog you can take on occasional walks and relax easily inside with, trainable and friendly, easy to take places, than the Greenland is likely not the best choice, if not a very bad one. If your definition of pet includes working the dog in harness on a regular basis, allowing them to live outside if they desire and have multiple dogs, then they could be a good pet.
For me personally, I could probably handle one after having a dog like Slash, but do I want to? Absolutely not. I enjoy the easier going, more chill nature of the Malamute for me personally and that's saying something considering that while Slash is a good house dog, he is only a good house dog because he is given work year round in some capacity.
I have only met a few Greenland Dogs in person, one was at the time young and ran with my dog's parents in a sled team, very tireless, but affectionate. And the other was a retired elder dog who could not retire to being a house pet her entire life and often found it stressful being away from the working team, even if she herself was not working.
Remember, these are primitive sled dogs and are less removed from their origins than many other sledding breeds. The modern Siberian Husky, Alaskan Malamute, Samoyed and even the Alaskan Husky have their origins in the 20th century and have their temperaments highly selected for. A Greenland dog is the same as it has been for centuries and centuries, vastly unchanged due to its isolation from westernized dog breeds and kennel clubs until very recently. A majority of Greenland dogs still live in Greenland (the country has very strict import and export laws for domestic animals and dogs in particular to protect the breed) where they are working dogs. A majority of Greenland dogs outside of Greenland are also working dogs.
As far as temperament goes the Greenland Dog FCI standard states:
The predominant temperamental qualities of the Greenland Dog are energy, mental strength and boldness. He is a passionate and tireless sledge dog. To people - also strangers - he is friendly, and while acting as sledge dog not closely attached to any particular person and therefore not suitable as a guard dog. On hunting seal and polar bear he will show a strong hunting instinct."
The Nordisk Kennel Union says this:
The Greenland Dog is a true unaffected natural dog with all that this entail. Therefore, this breed is only suitable as a family dog for people, who have great canine experience and who understand the special needs and distinctive character of this dog. In the right environment, this dog is energetic, mentally robust, vigilant and generally kind towards adults and children. It is an overall curious dog with a distinct pack mentality.
This breed greatly demands allowance to use its immense power on running and pulling heavy loads. It needs a good social life and the pack is of great value to these dogs. This breed enjoys living outdoors.
They are often said to be amongst the most intense of the sled breeds, more driven to work than Malamutes, more energetic, more prey driven, more more more and more.
The Alaskan Malamute Illustrated Standard says this about temperament for Malamutes (so imagine this + MORE ENERGY):
The Alaskan Malamute is an affectionate, friendly dog, not a “one man” dog. He is
a loyal, devoted companion, playful upon invitation, but generally impressive by his
dignity after maturity.
The Malamute is a true pack animal with the natural instinct to “lead or be led.” This results in
an independent, self-confident and strong willed personality, and explains why Malamutes can
sometimes be aggressive with other dogs of the same sex. While historically guardians of campsites and Eskimo children, the Malamute is not the type of guard dog that sees a threat in
eye contact or the approach of strangers. Dogs who react negatively towards people do not
typify correct Malamute temperament and any sign of aggression towards humans is unacceptable.
There are many great Greenland dog mushers (both in Greenland, Scandinavia and even the UK) that are present on Instagram if you have an account and want to learn a bit more about these dogs (note that some of them outside of Greenland also mush Alaskan Malamutes, this is pretty common as the breeds work well together). Here are some ones that I like:
Dodgesled Taxi (Sisimiut, Greenland)
Arctic Living Ilulissat (Ilulissat, Greenland)
Siku Tours (Uummannaq, Greenland)
Ukioq Soul (Åre, Sweden)
Suna-Sanik Kennel (Norway)
Kennel Tasermiut (Norway)
Ikihallan Greenland Dogs (Rovaniemi, Finland)
Infury Sled Dogs (UK)
Greenland Dog Adventures (Sisimiut, Greenland)
And here are some videos I like about Greenland Dogs:
Greenland Way of Life: Raising Dogs
The Insiders Guide: Dogsledding in Greenland
And finally, an article about how these dogs and Inuit are at the forefront of being affected by climate change (even my half house pet/half working pet malamutes are uncomfortable when my house is heated in winter btw...):
In Greenland village, shorter winters cast doubts over dog sledding
#dogblr#faq#greenland dog#dog sledding#sled dogs#primitive dogs#working dogs#they're very friendly to people but p intensely need work imo
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Hi, how much is the level of obedience and docilty of Laika breeds in average comparated to other primitive dogs as sleddogs types like Siberian Husky, Greenland Dog and Alaskan Malamute?
Compared to the average pet Siberian that most people are familiar with, WSL are much more biddable and a bit less hectic. They are still independent, agile, drivey, LOUD working dogs who need an outlet, but all those "funny" videos of Siberians causing chaos in the average pet owner's home is not typical of a WSL (most are owned by hunters who know how to handle them though). They are closer to a working line Siberian in temperament, however, they can be pretty spicy with other dogs, especially strange dogs. Not all of them are but it's something people should definitely be aware of if they're considering a WSL. They don't do well with harsh handling, I've seen more than a few instances of WSL biting someone who did not respect the dog, so they will stand up for themselves if they feel the need.
I've never met a Greenland Dog and have only been around a few Malamutes so I can't make a great comparison to those, but they are somewhat similar to those breeds.
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spitz-types breeds <3
i have never been able to identify which breed of dog i am, despite always knowing i am a dog. recently though i’ve been feeling extra connected with spits-type breeds.
i fell in love with several spitz breeds about 2 years ago and they’re just my absolute favourite now. it sucks that no one’s ever heard of most of them. they are so me. i am a big fluffy northern dog !!
breeds from first to last:
Finnish Spitz/Finnish Lapphund mix, Icelandic Sheepdog, Eurasier (my favourite), Samoyed, Greenland Dog
#therian#theriotype#dogs#spitz#eurasier#samoyed#greenland dog#finnish spitz#icelandic sheepdog#therianthropy#alterhuman
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I saw often this challenge online so I decide to do with one of my favourite character which original design doesn't satisfy me, I mean wrinkles on a northern dog like a greenland dog or an husky?!
However this is Kirby from Balto Wings of Change
#my art#artists on tumblr#digital art#redesign#balto fanart#balto 3#wings of change#kirby#greenland dog#canon vs my style
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Photos from Охотничьи Лайки (Hunting Laiki) by А. Т. Войлочников (A. T. Voylochnikov) and С. Д. Войлочникова (S. D. Voylochnikova).
Top image is a Greenland Dog
Bottom image is an F1 Wolf x West Siberian Laika hybrid. The second photo is of who I believe to be the same animal from the laikirus (dot) ru database. Not the exact same image and no name or registration number in the book so not 100% sure but it sure looks similar. The laikirus animal, Ulka, was born to a wild taken siberian wolf named Naida, and a pure dog WSL. Ulka was bred to pure WSL males, and as far as i can tell so were the continuing offspring. I haven't been able to find where her line ends so far, for all I know there are living descendants of her now. She was born to the ВНИИОЗ (VHIIOZ, still haven't looked up what thats an abbreviation for) kennel as part of an experiment for the viability of WSL x Wolf hunting dogs.
I'm only able to roughly translate russian currently so *please* correct me if I make any errors on these!
#hunting laiki#a. t. voylochnikov#s. d. voylochnikova#greenland dog#sled dogs#west siberian laika#laika#wolfdog#f1 wolfdog#volend#not sure if that *really* applies to this animal and her relatives or just the modern line being bred by that one dude#but if im looking for volend info ill wanna see this too so#it stays#wolf hybrid#i really wanna read stories about these dogs#a wild ass wolf and a primitive spitz gotta make animals that have some funny stories#its a really pretty animal though#and im SUPER curious if i can find a living descendant#not that it would be ANY remotely meaningful content nowadays#but for the fun trivia#i followed it down to F5 dogs on laikirus and there were a disappointing amount of photos#but it got to be too many to reasonably try chasing down All Descendants so i bopped off to do other adhd stuff#my library#i will probs post some of the photos of these animals another time though#maybe the volend dogs as well
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Greenlandic Dog
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The remote community of Ittoqqortoormiit, Greenland
Taken August 2022
#greenland#arctic gothic#oceans#sled dogs#dead animals#ships#grave markers#icebergs#my photos#my places#iypdgthv
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ive gotten obsessed with that furry paws game you were posting about. It really scratches that itch of old internet that I've been craving.
Anyway I've been breeding borzois and chihuahuas (aka longs and shorts)
it's pretty neat! i've been sharpening my colour genetic skills with their gene minigame
i'm Lux (#1694448) if anyone wants to add me as a friend, also if you wanna make an account use my referral link to give me some free dog money >:)
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Inuit playing with a puppy
By: E. M. Weyer, Jr.
From: Natural History Magazine
1936
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"Obersten" was a lead of the teams of Greenland dogs that took Roald Amundsen and his companions to the South Pole in 1911. He's easily recognizable in photos due to having damaged his ear in a fight with another dog during their stay in Antarctica.
Amundsen's expedition was a right massacre in terms of dogs. Out of the over 100 that were present on Fram, and out of the 52 that left Framheim for the Pole, only 3 dogs returned to Norway and Obersten was the only to have made it all the way. Most of the others were killed for food, some died of sickness on the return trip, and some were sold on to other expeditions.
Obersten's survival and return was, in addition to his hardiness and strength of character, due to his bond with fellow polar explorer Oscar Wisting. He's said to have stood out as particularly willfull and stubborn from the very start of the expedition, and upon retirement, he spent the rest of his life as Wisting's family dog. As the story goes, the family's youngest son and some friends decided one winter day to have Obersten pull a sled in a makeshift dog race - but once their plans became known, Oscar ran out 'in only his shirt' to put an end to their shenanigans (to everyone's great disappointment - including the dog, probably) saying something to the effect of "this dog has pulled far too much for much too far in his life, and should never have to pull another gramme."
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Hello
I was wondering if you could take about what you look for in a sporting dog's conformation, especially for draught work, particularly what parts of the conformation you look at to determine soundness? What does good movement look like in a dog? What does bad confo and movement look like? Are you able to get an idea of what a dogs confo is like/how sound the dog will be when it's a puppy?
(Question from curiosity as I realised that while i know this stuff about horses i didnt know a thing about dogs and then i starting wondering what dog people look for)
Let me preface this with the fact that I'm not a breeder and I also don't advocate for inexperienced clients choosing puppies, I'd much prefer an experienced breeder or mentor that works their dogs in harness to do that. Additionally there are some other draft breeds, such as the Greater Swiss Mountain Dog and other carters, that I am not familiar enough with to make assessment of their similarities with freighting sled dogs, although I'd guess they share a similar need for correct moderate angulation and bone.
Freighting sled dogs, while bigger than racier sledding types, should still be an agile dog, not coarse or overly heavy. The depth of chest is approximately one half the height of the dog at the shoulders with the deepest point being just behind the forelegs. The sternum should not be overly protruding but should be able to be felt, chest should be muscular upon inspection in mature dogs.The dog should be ~slightly~ longer than it is tall with a thick, muscular neck and a level, if not slightly sloping top line.
(Above: Correct malamute with correct top line)
(above: incorrect top lines)
(Inuit Qimmiq during Ivakkak showing level top line and correct ~slightly~ longer than tall proportion)
Good feet and joint construction are essential to all sled dogs. With freight dogs they should have perfectly straight front forelimbs with the elbows close to the body, but still able to move freely.
(above: examples of incorrect front constructions)
(above: Canadian Qimmiq showing correct front construction and good bone, foot proportion and overall musculature)
The carpal joint should be strong and flexible, the pasterns only slightly sloping with good elasticity and are short in length compared to non freight dogs.
(above: examples of bad pastern construction).
(above: correct front and pastern construction)
Rear legs should be muscular with the width of the thigh carrying down to the hock, the stifles are well bent. From the rear back legs will appear straight.
(above: incorrect rear construction)
(above: correct rear construction)
(above: Greenland dog team showing uniformity in rear construction, good muscle tone and good thickness of bone).
The dog should have thick bone and appropriately large feet for holding up that bone. Feet are a large, rounded snowshoe shape, neither a hare foot or a cat foot, and large in proportion to the dog. Toes should be arched with thick paw pads. Back paws should be slightly longer than the front paws.
(above: incorrect foot construction)
(above: Slash and Zombie showing correct foot size and proportion in relation to the dog. Note that Slash is the ideal freighting height and weight for a Malamute, but his feet are as large as Sigurd's (we've measured), who is 5" taller and 20 pounds heavier.)
(above: various Greenland Dogs. Notice the proportion and size of the feet.)
Movement of a dog will also be indicative of its construction and quality for work: freight dogs should have steady, efficient movement (a fluid, tireless trot is ideal), and should never appear choppy or paddling. Freight dogs do not single track, but tend to converge on a center line when speed increases.
(above: correct relaxed movement, notice where the front toes are in the reach of the dog)
(above: Sigurd showing correct movement over uneven ground).
(above: various working bred malamutes showing relaxed trots).
(above: Greenland dog team in various gaits, again notice where the front extension is during movement).
(above: Qimmiq participating in Ivakkak showing various gaits of correct movement)
While freighting sled dogs also have other qualifications I'd look for overall (correct coat type and head shape to work in an arctic environment), sled dogs are overall built from the ground up. I'd much rather have a dog with correct feet, angulation and muscle tone than I would a dog that does not have those things but has correct coat type and breed ideal head shape.
The above descriptions are consistent across all of the freighting sled dogs. If you're interested they are here: The Alaskan Malamute Illustrated Standard (where I have pulled some comparative images), The Greenland Dog Standard, The Canadian Eskimo Dog (Inuit Qimmiq) Standard, and the Dog Qualifications as described for the Ivakkak Traditional Sled Dog Race (Inuit Sled Dogs ONLY allowed).
THIS video from the Alaskan Malamute Club of America is also very helpful when it comes to understanding correct movement.
I also recommend: Structure in Action, The Makings of a Durable Dog for those interested in canine conformation for various types of work and performance.
#dogblr#faq#dog structure#freight dogs#sled dogs#alaskan malamute#greenland dog#inuit qimmiq#canadian inuit dog#canadian eskimo dog
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Some guy who thinks the AKC breed standard is the end all be all of what an Alaskan Malamute should be: They are not racing dogs! Nobody anywhere should ever race them!
The Polardistans freight class:
You can see more photos of the 2022 Polardistans race start here. There are many freight teams entered in the race, and there are several other races overseas designed specifically for freighting dogs. Just because it’s not in the US doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
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