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mrs-gauche · 1 year

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Hi! Any thoughts on the 'hidden track' at the end of the Bonus DLC Tracks for the new Dragon Age Vinyl set? "D'Read Koda" can be interpreted so many ways but 'dread bear'? Coda, the musical notation? (Do you suppose there's any connection to the bear and maiden graffiti art we see several places in Inquisition [or any connection between that mural and the one from The Missing {moon atop the bear and halla horns on the maiden?}])

Hi! Thanks for the ask! :D And yeah, I've been super curious about this as well! (And also the pre-sale for the vinyl now starting at the same day that the final volume of The Missing is coming out, May 10th 👀 but ALSO everything about the cover, like the GOLDEN CITY (omg???), the enormous DRAGON (Mythal???), the vines/tree branches (like Mythal's vallaslin/visions of her conquering in Trespasser??), the ECLIPSE in the background (according to Dalish mythology Mythal "created" the moon/"An Eclipse as Fen'Harel stirred"??), the summit/mountain beneath it (!!) and that single hooded person (with a staff resembling the headpiece of one of the two figures in the 2020 teaser mural/symbols in the new cinematic)?? The potential LORE revelations on this thing are absolutely bonkers, but I digress! 😂)

Anyway! I actually thought something similar when I first saw that mysterious hidden track name, that it has to be some kind of anagram or wordplay, given how much BioWare LOVES to do those and also with the musical term "coda" being spelled with a "k" for some reason, but what stood out to me especially was the random apostrophe that's in there, since the devs are also known for their (internal) "disputes" about the extensive use of apostrophes in DA for the elven language and names. lol

So to me the odd spelling plus the random apostrophe points more to it being an anagram for a specific elven term, but I have yet to decipher what it could be. 🤔

My second thought was if this "hidden track" could actually just be the final part in the "extended version" of the Lost Elf theme (starting at about 10:13), but then I looked up the game's files and noticed that this specific tune actually plays (though only once) when you first get to the Darvaarad and the full piece is about 2:40 minutes long (the hidden track being only 1:08), leading me to think this is probably what's titled "Qunari Atmosphere" on the tracklist. And after going through all the Trespasser music files I could find, there was nothing hinting at something like "D'Read Koda" either. :/

But you're right, "Koda" is also a term in the Dakota language meaning "friend/ally" or "little bear", but I'm completely at a loss as to what that could refer to. For all we know, it could be a reference to frigging Storvacker. 😂

As for your second question though, since you brought up "The Bear and the Maiden" painting/mural in connection to the mural in volume 3 of The Missing, there are actually a few other interesting aspects to this that I've been thinking about, but before I start rambling get to that point, let me just put the rest under a cut so people don't get spammed with an exhaustingly long text post. lol

First off, for reference, this is the painting we're talking about, featured in various places throughout DAI!

People have made quite a few speculations about this imagery over the years. For one, given that it is not exclusively found in elven ruins and filed under "Fereldan art" in the game's files, some people assume it could depict an old legend of the Alamarri. Others have suggested that it's actually just a little easter egg in reference to the "The Bear and the Fair Maiden" song in ASOIAF. lol

But by far the most popular take on this, is that this is depicting the elven gods Dirthamen and Ghilan'nain. Based on Ghilan'nain's sacred animal being the halla and the lady with her all white appearance and her antlers kinda resembling one as well. And Dirthamen's sacred animal being a bear (among others, I think). Which would pose the question though, why these two are portrayed in such a way, when there's nothing in the lore that could give us an explanation?

To me, it almost looks like the maiden is trying to calm the bear down/keep him in check, who has gone out of control and is now turning into a wild beast (that can apparently also breath fire? lol). With what we know of Ghilan'nain now, it's definitely possible that her horrifying experiments and creation of all kinds of freaky creatures might have inspired such imagery.

So, while I can see how you could draw a parallel to the mural in volume 3 with the way they're positioned/embrace each other, I don't know what else to derive from this, other than that it would point to the bottom "red one" being Ghilan'nain and the "green one" being Andruil and not the other way around, or that Andruil was maybe able to shapeshift into a bear? lol But if we're going with my assumption that the bear is losing control over itself, maybe it could refer to the stories of Andruil succumbing to madness from hunting the Forgotten Ones in the Void. As opposed to the mural in the comic, where they seem to be rather peacefully in love (to me at least).

But while we're at it, let us go back to Ghilan'nain and Dirthamen's potential connection real quick (because I've been thinking about it 😶)! What's interesting to me, is that these two have actually been mentioned together in the lore, too, looking at this ancient elven writing for example that is only revealed to you when using Veilfire at the Temple of Mythal:

"His crime is high treason. He took on a form reserved for the gods and their chosen, and dared to fly in the shape of the divine.The sinner belongs to Dirthamen; he claims he took wings at the urging of Ghilan'nain, and begs protection from Mythal. She does not show him favor, and will let Elgar'nan judge him."

"For one moment there is an image of a shifting, shadowy mass with blazing eyes, whose form may be one or many. Then it fades."

So there we have the two being involved in what appears to be a judgement on someone serving under Dirthamen, because of Ghilan'nain's actions. While we don't know how much of this actually happened, it definitely makes you wonder about their intentions here. Why would Ghil do this? And why specifically to someone serving under Dirthamen? What was the outcome? And what does this tell us about their relationship? (And now that I think about it, what if this sinner was actually the bear in the mural? lol)

As for the sinner himself. Now, I don't know about you, but when I reread this codex again after several playthroughs, particularly the “shifting, shadowy mass with blazing eyes” at the end, I thought “Wait. That kinda reminds me of something......”

Look, I know it doesn't appear that way when looking at my blog for like five minutes, but I certainly don't think that every single codex entry on elven myths should be automatically assumed to be about Solas. 😂 That being said, I can't help but feel like there's a connection to be made when looking at this other ancient inscription, that can be found in the final chamber of the Solasan Temple:

Faintly carved into the stone is a figure bound in chains. Two other figures have turned their gaze from the central image.

The script below the image is ancient, though Solas is able to provide a partial translation:

Pride in our accomplishments and in our hearts. That same pride became (a word meaning corrupted or altered) within him, he sought to claim (indecipherable), cast from favor and so he was bound.

Hidden from mortal eyes, death lies within.

To me, this text always seemed to perfectly match up with the ancient writing in Mythal's temple. A person being judged for claiming (godhood?)/daring to fly in the shape of the divine (a dragon?), put in chains and "bound" as punishment (by Elgar'nan?). And again, there are two figures involved. If the events of these writings do connect, was this "sinner" the one belonging to Dirthamen, taking wings by the urging of Ghilan'nain and them now silently accepting Elgar'nan's judgement, making those two the "figures turning their gaze"?

The thing is, if I'm presented with an ancient elven text about someone's PRIDE being corrupted in a place called SOLASAN temple, how in the world am I NOT supposed to draw an immediate connection to Solas here? 😂 I'm not saying that the sinner in this story had to be him per se, but if the age-old theory about Solas having been a spirit of Wisdom once who somehow turned into Pride is true, then there's still the question of how or why exactly this corruption occurred? And, if anything, the story of this sinner would provide at least one possibility for what happened to someone who had been corrupted in ancient times.

"Cast from favor and so he was bound."

If Cole's cryptic comments in Trespasser are actually about Solas (and Mythal?), then it's safe to say that Solas was himself bound ("He left a scar when he burned her off his face"), which does make SO much sense, considering that he values free will above everything, his furious reaction to the Well of Sorrows is SO telling, oh and also, he lead a motherflippin Slave Rebellion. 😂

But if we're looking for further potential connections between Dirthamen, Ghilan'nain and Solas... Well, Dirthamen is not only called the Keeper of Secrets, but is also always associated with sharing wisdom, knowledge and giving counsel to those in need. His symbols also include two ravens. Wolf and raven being known for pretty cool 80s synthwave music having a special bond in many real life myths and legends.

And Ghilan'nain is the only elven god we know of who was a "huntress of the People" before she ascended to become the youngest of the elven pantheon (possibly because of her relationship with Andruil or her ability to "create" things). As far as we know, Solas was also one of the People before he "became" Fen'Harel. So they were very much alike in that sense.

There's also the tale in which Fen'Harel gets captured by Andruil, because he had angered her by “hunting the halla without her blessing”. Some people have taken this to mean that Solas made a move on Ghilan'nain or that they had something going, so naturally, given that Andruil and Ghilan'nain are believed to have also been lovers, she was not very amused about that. lol (Which would make the rest of the story even funnier, where Andruil declared to “punish” him by making him “serve in her bed for a year and a day to pay her back”. lmao)

Which brings us finally back to the mural in The Missing volume 3, that could depict Andruil and Ghilan'nain embracing each other, perhaps even romantically (btw, if you want to know why I think so, check out my post on volume 3. :D).

I kinda joked about it at first, but if we assume that this mural was actually made by Solas as well, then you do have to wonder why he would even choose to paint such an intimate moment between Ghilan'nain and Andruil, people he arguably despises? Though it'll be interesting to learn what their relationship was like before his rebellion and Mythal's murder. I mean, who knows, maybe the before-mentioned tale actually happened and all three of them made out afterwards (willingly or not). 😂 (I mean, we're still talking about immortal beings here, so what else are they gonna do all day? lol) Or maybe Solas was just the Evanuris' personal portrait/mural painter at one point. lol

Anyway, to conclude, all of this is partially why I assumed for the longest time, that the two figures seen in the 2020 teaser mural could be Ghilan'nain and Dirthamen (also the fact that Dirthamen's vallaslin matched up perfectly with the silhouette of the right figure and obviously everything about Ghilan'nain and her horrifying experiments in Tevinter Nights).

...but with everything we've learned since then, I'm now actually leaning more towards it being Ghilan'nain and Elgar'nan (if you want to know why, I highly recommend watching this fantastic analysis!).

The only thing that still kinda irks me with this, is the fact that the only elven god that's known for wielding a spear like this is actually Andruil.

However, it is super suspicious to me how the "goddess" seen in this concept art seems to break out of what looks like huge ocean waves and how this "grey sludge stuff" from Ghil's ancient "pools" in Tevinter Nights was described to have "smelled like the ocean" AND the mention of (capital P) Pride in elven myths having "stopped Ghilan'nain's hand when she was about to destroy her creatures of the deep sea". 👀👀 (Also, is it just me or does the figure in the 2020 mural look like she's having algae hanging down her headpiece? Not to mention the tentacles. lol) So there's that.

Also, and I know this is the silliest reason, but I don't know if BioWare would expect new or casual players to keep up with all these long "complicated" elven names, since "Ghilan'nain" and "Elgar'nan" do sound kinda similar and people might get them mixed up. lmao So having Elgar'nan and Andruil might be a bit more distinguishable, just for the sake of making it a little easier for new players lol (I mean, they have changed names before to avoid this problem, like when the Tevinter city "Qarinus" was turned into "Ventus" because it sounded too similar to "Qunari", I think? 😂).

I don't know if any of this actually answered your question, I feel like I got carried away by like a mile. 😂 I don't know how I got from "D'Read Koda" on the vinyl to tentacles, but here we are. 😂 Those are my thoughts on.... a lot of stuff. lol

#dragon age the missing spoilers #tevinter nights #dragon age the missing #solas #ghilan'nain #dirthamen #andruil #tinfoil time #da4

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theadhddragon · 2 years

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It's 5 in the morning right now and I should be sleeping but I got to thinking about Qunari and how they're most likely elves with dragon blood mixed in. How that most likely means that mad scientist Ghilan'nain was involved. How that means the kossith are most likely ANCIENT ELVES. No wonder Solas hates them so much, he can barely stand modern, mortal elves, and that was HIS fault! Imagine how he feels looking at an entire race of elves that have been so corrupted and changed, then on top of that, made slaves of the Qun? How the Qunari, who famously hate and fear magic, have had their history of the kossith wiped from their records and memories because they came from a once entirely magic race? How have I never connected these dots before?!?

#I'm probably not the first to have these thoughts #I could always be wrong too #BUT IT FITS TOGETHER TOO WELL DAMN IT #dragon age #dragon age: origins #dragon age 2 #dragon age inquisition #dragon age 4 #Qunari #solas #kossith #Ghilan'nain #dragon age theory #dragon age theories #dragon age meta #da theory #da meta

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ekalita-blr · 1 year

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"The expressions on the faces of those elven rulers betrayed a contempt that was almost palpable, the beatific smiles edged with disgust and disdain for the creatures at their feet. And the subjects, far from kneeling in reverence as Ramesh had first thought, seemed more to be cowering in terror." —From "The Horror of Hormak," DRAGON AGE: TEVINTER NIGHTS here is a little piece of illustration for Dragon Age zine https://twitter.com/FenHawkeZine https://vk.com/public208587738

#dragon age #dragonage #dragon age zine #Dragon_Age_Zine_wip #ghilan'nain #the horror of hormak

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broodwolf221 · 9 days

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Hello Broody! For Solas x Ghilan'nain: we have our own stories. i don't need to borrow yours. - from the Merrill prompt list. ;)

hehehe broody.... today im fenris coded uwu also this was so fun fr. kinda detoured a bit from the prompt but that's just the way it goes sometimes! @dadrunkwriting 449 words cws: none

“You did not attend the court,” he pointed out as he approached. She said nothing, did not even react, but he knew she was listening. “In fact, I have yet to see you attend the court even once.”

“Mine is not a voice they would care to hear,” Ghilan’nain said after a long moment of contemplative silence. “I speak and they hear my past. I cannot repair my cadence, my accent, my tone.” Now he said nothing. She was seated at the edge of a garden bed, staring at the vast array of carefully-tended flowers. Stunning in their variety, deliberate in their placement, overwhelming in their scent… and so artisanal, so precise, that the entire display felt hollow. When she picked one he almost gasped. There was nothing naive in the gesture, nothing thoughtless—she ruined the construct, and she did so on purpose.

Was that how she felt here? Something wrong, a gap, a disruption, a current against the rest?

He stepped nearer the garden, although he did not sit on the edge as she did. That he had Mythal’s preference did not place him at an equal station with any of the Evanuris, even Ghilan’nain, the one who felt furthest from her own people. “A disruption can allow for new growth,” he said softly, hand twitching as he allowed his magic to curl into the garden bed, reaching below the soil surface for hidden seeds. One sprang to life, a stark green blade that rose steadily, its tip swelling until a bud formed. Moments later it unfurled into a beautiful red flower, with tightly packed concentric petals.He felt the sharp pulse of her magic, shockingly strong even used as delicately as it was, and the flowers surrounding his grew thicker until they smothered the new red bloom. “Only if permitted.” She reached in and plucked a single red petal, holding it in her palm for a moment. Then she closed her hand and smoke curled out between her fingers—and when she opened her hand, nothing remained but a smear of ash. “I do not need your metaphors, Dread Wolf. I have my own.”

"Apologies," he demurred. She scoffed.

"You were bolder before," she teased, voice lilting even though her expression remained fixed on the garden, eyes hard. "Did you forget so soon?"

He had not. Of course he had not. But... "Mine is not always a voice you care to hear, my lady." She flinched as if struck, then stood abruptly. She wiped her hand on her dress, leaving the ash smeared against the fine material, and strode away from him.

He stared at the flowers, resisted the urge to sigh, and left in the opposite direction.

#dadw time #broodwrites #solas #ghilan'nain

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thebookworm0001 · 2 months

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thinking about the murals in Horror of Hormak depicting what seems to be elves being captured and turned into halla and the original myth we got about Ghilan’nain being captured and turned into a halla

#dragon age #ghilan'nain #Frightened

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hardwitchhologram · 1 year

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After the Dragon Age teaser, I wanted to paint one of the elven gods we saw in the trailer! Best guess is that it is Ghilan’nain, but I guess we will find out one day

She’s supposed to have created the creatures of the world, including the creatures of the sea, so it’s a fitting testament that she has seaweed hanging from her crown.

I also had no good references for this, so I had to use myself (I’m the cheapest model in town)

#dragon age dreadwolf #ghilan'nain #evanuris #dragon age

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edda-grenade · 2 years

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in which i make 'the dread wolf & the tree' Even Worse

been playing da:i again and i noticed not only is there a giantass wolf statue in front of the crestwood grove, but said grove has huge deer/halla statues (which are also found in ghilan'nain's grove) And a bunch of murals that are very likely about andruil

and, okay. eternity's a long time, right? maybe solas used to actually get along not just with ghilan'nain but also with andruil, back in the real early days

me, immediately: oh, i can make this awful :D

#drawing andruil with a gentle expression is like. hilariously weird. i love her owl-eyed arrow face but still #solas #fen'harel #andruil #ghilan'nain #fen'harel x ghilan'nain #andruil x ghilan'nain #dragon age #dragon age inquisition #da:i #comic #art tag #fanart #unworksafe #feel like andruil is a trigger warning all by herself but lemme know if i should add anything

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tavtiers · 3 months

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A hypothetical god tier for Ghilan'nain from Dragon Age: the Maid of Breath.

A Maid of Breath is among those who alter paths, drive, and passion. They are motivated by themselves to assist freedom. (x) The Maid of Breath feels like something is holding them back and dislikes commitment. (x) They are the True Escapee, defined by freedom. (x) Their opposite is the Sylph of Blood. Their inverse is the Bard of Blood. The Maid of Breath would quest on a planet similar to the Land of Underground and Breath, reigned over by Zeus (God of Thunder) or Hermes (The Messenger God). They would rise to ascension on the wings of fireflies. (x)(x)(x)

#ghilan'nain #evanuris #dragon age #maid of breath #homestuck #classpecting #character classpecting #my post

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transprincecaspian · 1 year

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Ghilan'nain

Femininity and Gendered Violence

As I work on Nomaris Mahariel, I have a few thoughts on the elven story of Ghilan'nain. (Note: I am purely looking at the story we are presented with in the codex of Origins and the Dalish legends. I'm a little bit miffed at Bioware for how they chose to handle the elven gods and so I will not be discussing the discoveries of Inquisition).

One day, Ghilan'nain came across a hunter she did not know. At his feet lay a hawk, shot through the heart by an arrow. Ghilan'nain was filled with rage, for the hawk is an animal much beloved of Andruil. Ghilan'nain called upon the goddess to curse him, so that he could never again hunt and kill a living creature. Ghilan'nain's curse took hold, and the hunter found that he was unable to hunt. Ashamed, the hunter swore he would find Ghilan'nain and repay her for what she had done to him. He blinded her first, and then bound her as one would bind a kill fresh from the hunt. But because he was cursed, the hunter could not kill her. Instead he left her for dead in the forest. And Ghilan'nain prayed to the gods for help. Andruil sent her hares to Ghilan'nain and they chewed through the ropes that bound her, but Ghilan'nain was still wounded and blind, and could not find her way home. So Andruil turned her into a beautiful white deer—the first halla. —From Codex entry: Ghilan'nain: Mother of the Halla

(via the DA wiki)

One thing that stuck out to me in this tale is the overwhelming prevalence of gendered violence. While the tale itself draws on similarities to the ancient Greek tale of Artemis (see the myth of Actaeon), the difference is that the male aggressor is not the one punished by the divine woman.

Instead, Ghilan'nain, in her adoration for Andruil, is beaten, blinded, and punished for her devotion to her goddess. It is assumed that the hunter wandered free doomed to fail in his hunts, but we don't know for sure how his story ends. With Ghilan'nain, it is given to us plainly. For her devotion she was transformed into the first of the Halla and granted godhood, or, "she rose to a godly rank". The implicit message here, of course, is that devotion can, in some cases, bring about favor in the form of godhood.

But that's not the only implicit message here. There's a lot of statements made within the Dragon Age setting that women are equal to men, but when you play the games and interact with the books, it's easy to tell that it's not really the case. Sexism and misogyny run rampant from the start--just take a look at the dialogue options in Origins.

(Original Sin in the Andrastian faith is Envy, not lust or desire or a womanly fault, so I do think that is a parallel worth pointing out too, even if not part of the Dalish beliefs).

Ghilan'nain is Othered by her devotion; her body is perhaps unwillingly transformed into that of the first Halla, and from that she is called the "Mother of Halla"; the elves call upon her for guidance when they cannot find her way home. She's depicted in the ancient statue in the Mahariel origin as a woman with hares at her side and the moon beneath her right foot (thus feminizing the moon).

There's not really a main overarching point that I want to emphasize other than the one I hope you're picking up on. Ghilan'nain is a story about feminine horror; the brutality of Man, the woman's body being punished and changed for his sin, and the forced motherhood that comes of it. I don't think it's a surprise that her vallas'lin has a uterine shape to it.

(Mithra, a hunter of Zathrian's clan)

I'm not really looking for a whole lot of discourse, just sharing some of the thoughts I've had as I prepare my Mahariel warden, Nomaris. He's trans and I've had a lot of thoughts about him regarding his upbringing and what might have drawn him to this vallas'lin in particular.

#ghilan'nain #dalish elves #casposting #literally just my thoughts #they may not be super clear #or efficient #this does not get into the bioware racism btw #but that plays a big role #i'm just tired its bedtime #thought i would get some thoughts out #nomaris mahariel #text post #dragon age

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thedinanshiral · 3 months

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The Missing

Having read the latest Dragon Age comic there's really not much i have to say about it. We follow Varric and Harding on their mission to find Solas, and get to see them meet some characters from previous comics like the Crows Viago and Teia, and some Tevinter Nights characters as well. The premise is simple: there's an artifact somewhere and everyone's trying to get it -Solas, the Venatori-, and our party is trying to find Solas so there they go. We get to see a little bit of Tevinter, and a little bit of the Arlathan Forest which only made me wonder how certain things could be made in the next game (distorsions in the very fabric of space-time are always interesting to me, there's a lot that could be made with that setting, gameplay wise).

As i think i've mentioned before, these side media are often made in preparation for the next installment in the series, the Dragon Age comics have rarely been lore-heavy for newcomers and hints for veterans are few and cute but not exactly groundbreaking (they better leave that for the actual game!)

Only one frame caught my attention:

In this scene out party has arrived at the temple lost in the Arlathan Forest where they expected to find the coveted artifact and Solas himself. Alas, both are gone already, but we as the readers are treated to these murals, one familiar and one not.

I'm not saying Solas was the only elf capable of making such murals but he's been practically designated as the artist behind nearly every elvhen mural seen so far, and that wolf one is no exception.

Is the location in the comic the same as in the trailer? We can't tell for now.

But it's the other part of the mural that i have to focus on. I had seen it before -spoilers can be unavoidable sometimes - and it bothers me considerably that it wasn't until i saw it on my own copy that i realized something.

People almost immediately interpreted the figures to be Ghilan'nain and Andruil, particularly because the one standing has a headpiece that very much resembles one of the upside-down figures in the trailer's mural

This, coupled with some previous concept art led people to believe the figure should be Ghilan'nain..

...or is she?

You see, the recent Dragon Age vinyl came with gorgeous cover variants, depicting the city of Arlathan before and after Solas' action, and the latter shows what seem to be the faces of most of the other Evanuris

Their headpieces are the same as shown in another part of the trailer

The moment this one came out everyone tried to guess what design corresponded to which Evanuris. I tried it too but didn't take notes so excuse me i'm not trying again now,maybe later

When i looked at that panel in the comic, it hit me. The sitting figure, with the half-moon headpiece, the same as in one of the gods on the trailer mural, the same as the grotesque sea monster...might not be Ghilan'nain. Despite all possible readings covered so far, it may actually be..Andruil.

"Whaaaaaat??" you may say, but hear me out. Check the body language in that mural. It's loving, tender, one is lying on the other's lap, they look like lovers. As Andruil and Ghilan'nain are presumed to have been. With Andruil being the senior one, i think it makes more sense for her to be the one sitting, looking down at the other resting on her lap. If the headpieces the Evanuris wore were in any way related to their name or atributes, that alone changes how this scene can be understood. The resting figure's headpiece looks like two horns; which Evanuris was related to anything with horns...antlers...halla? Ghilan'nain Mother of Halla. She was so proud of the halla, the creation that granted her godhood, the one that still roams the land, why wouldn't she reference her finest work with her crown?

Whereas the other figure, seemingly more imposing, stronger perhaps, has a headpiece that closely resembles..a halfmoon, people thought. But let me offer an alternative: a bow. Andruil, goddess of the hunt. "Sister of the Moon, Mother of Hares, Lady of the Hunt". Her preferred weapon? Bow and arrow. We know Andruil hunted in the Abyss, that it drove her mad, tainted, and apparently Horror of Hormak distracted us all because we thought it had to be Ghilan'nain, with her experiments, her monstrous creations, her underground labs of lyrium-induced genetic disasters. But what if it's not her, but her lover? What if it's Andruil? She "put an armor made of the Void and made weapons of darkness. She brought plague to her lands and howled things meant to be forgotten". She could very well be the giant sea monster in concept art. Monsters so massive don't need weapons, and that one is holding a spear. The devs note mentions "evil gods", and ok sure, Evanuris being evil is kinda debatable but the one we know for sure lost her freaking mind was Andruil.

Besides asking who's who, i think we should also consider why they're depicted like this in a mural, specially if we consider the very likely possibility that Solas made it. We know very little of his relationship with the Evanuris, other than Mythal. He didn't approve of them for sure, but he also still holds a deep love for all his people. We have at least one story that connects him with Andruil and Ghilan'nain, which is a bit odd, to say the least.

That's all i have for now. I think i'll read all the pre-Dreadwolf comics soon and work with that. Thanks for reading :)

#Evanuris #Ghilan'nain #Andruil #Dragon Age #Dragon Age The Missing #not my brightest writing i'm a bit rusty #maybe the two merged and that's why the creature has two sets of arms #everything is possible

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