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nerd-artist · 2 months

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The Sobecks

Happy second-anniversary of Horizon Forbidden West 🎉

#horizon forbidden west #aloy #hfw aloy #beta #hfw beta #liz #Elisabeth Sobeck #the sobecks #traditional animation is so difficult #I tried here lol

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darksidetracer369 · 11 months

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And no one can tell otherwise 😏😏😍

HOLY Trinity🥵💦

#tilda van der meer #aloy #aloyxtilda #horizon forbidden west #tilda #elisabeth sobeck #i love her #my love #i am in love with her #i need tilda in my life #LisxTilda #Lesbians

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pinechips · 2 years

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Tilda's Art Collection

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If you haven't seen the making film about the Rijksmuseum collaboration, it's really fun and interesting! I want to leave my thoughts on Tilda's story and connection to her collection and hope to hear your thoughts as well. Especially, if you're familiar with art and paintings, please share your insights!

0. How I read this scene

(From the making film above) This scene is designed for Aloy to understand Tilda's personality and motivation without any background information. Given Aloy has never been to a museum in her life, I assume Devs don't expect us to look up research papers to interpret each painting. So all the hints should be in the dialogues.

There will be two aspects - how Tilda reads it and how Aloy reads it. Tilda explains her side story by showing each painting to Aloy - this is all about Tilda. Aloy's comments/questions show how she thinks about Tilda and the difference between Tilda and Aloy (maybe also Elisabeth). Look at the emphasis on Tilda/Aloy's relationship - they're supposed to understand each other by reading art together.

The scene naturally drags the player's gaze in zigzags and it seems to follow Tilda's life.

You can find the full dialogue script here, thanks to @mehoymalloy.

Woman Reading a Letter, Johannes Vermeer, ca. 1663 + Woman Reading Music, Han van Meegeren, 1935 – 1940

Tilda's early life, before meeting Elisabeth.

This painting has many layers of context... I know it can be interpreted as a clone-related symbol, like Aloy/Beta compared to Elisabeth - but before that, I believe this is to show Tilda's life agenda from her beginning. She was fascinated by the deception of a good forger. I guess she wants to do the same thing so that she can fool other people into believing she is who she wants to be. Like, she carefully designs herself based on her "imagination". That's her foundation. Aloy asked why she does that ("it was a lie, and you knew it.") and Tilda answered that's how she got the right evaluation from other people. This also implies Tilda thinks she can't be valued enough with her true self - a bit sad moment to me.

The 2nd point is the difference between a masterpiece and an imitation. Here, the focus is more on how Tilda tells a difference between the two. This can be applied to Aloy/Elisabeth. Tilda brings the image of the left painting (masterpiece) to the base, and you can see it appears when Tilda is mentioning Elisabeth during the conversation with Aloy. Tilda said if it tells her more, she feels less. If I need to guess, Tilda feels more when she can't really see/read/predict the other person's thoughts. That evokes her imagination, maybe? In the storyline, Aloy doesn't allow Tilda to predict her next move and keeps twisting Tilda's plan. Think Elisabeth was also the same way. Beta, on the other hand, is different from Elisabeth/Aloy in this manner. Maybe that's why Elisabeth was the true masterpiece to Tilda.

Of course, there's a meaning of longing for someone like the woman in this painting. Aloy feels the "emotional burden" (of Tilda), which can't be put down.

2. Selene and Endymion, Gerard de Lairesse, ca. 1680

Tilda's relationship with Elisabeth

This is an interesting description of Tilda/Elisabeth's relationship. Aloy asked if Tilda sneaked up on Elisabeth and Tilda said it was a secret visit. We all know how Tilda approached Elisabeth. It feels like Tilda had a certain reason to approach Elisabeth, possibly wanting to dig into Elisabeth's work or personal life. Guess it didn't go well as Tilda planned, given Elisabeth already knew who Tilda exactly was. I think that was why Tilda felt a strong interest in Elisabeth if we think about what makes a masterpiece to Tilda. Also, isn't it strange that Elisabeth was welcoming to Tilda even if she knew who Tilda is? Err, maybe Tilda was just Elisabeth's type? Anyhow, they fell for each other.

What interested me more was that "two must remain apart" and "Selene is not supposed to fall in love with Endymion". Why? Because Selene took a vow of chastity. Is this about Tilda's internal conflict in a relationship? Or, Tilda was not supposed to fall in love with Elisabeth? Did Tilda (or Elisabeth) have a reason to hide their relationship? Was that why they needed to find a way to come together but briefly? After seeing this, I realized Elisabeth also didn't talk about Tilda at all to any of the ZD members or even to the GAIA.

Aloy seems to be confused about this. Why couldn't you be together? Why didn't you break your vow? Tilda didn't answer these questions but just said her love will forever burn regardless of the circumstance. Maybe Elisabeth asked the same question to Tilda and her answer was also the same.

3. Jeremiah Lamenting the Destruction of Jerusalem, Rembrandt van Rijn, 1630

Tilda realized the world's ending and tried to save her collections.

As clearly mentioned in the dialogue, Tilda said she saved the collection like Jeremiah. I find two points interesting. The first thing is Jeremiah was a prophet and saw a vision of the city's fate. Tilda might have known what was coming from her sources, earlier than other people saw that. She decided to save the relics, not the people. This could be a major difference between Aloy and Tilda. Aloy is bothered by Tilda's priority and pointed out that Tilda just picked the winning side. Of course, Tilda doesn't agree because she actually saved all the wonders and hence has no regrets. Also, she still sees hope for the future.

I think this moment can be the time when Elisabeth and/or Tilda realized they can't be together anymore. Thinking about Elisabeth's effort to save life on earth, Tilda's choice would be a deal breaker for her. Elisabeth might have blamed Tilda in the same way as Aloy does ("you calculated which side would win a battle").

4. Titus in a Monk’s Habit, Rembrandt van Rijn, 1660

Tilda lost Elisabeth.

Aloy seems to start learning how to read paintings! At first, she doesn't understand why Tilda showing this to her but after Tilda explains the feeling of loss, Aloy fully relates to it. This is connected to both Aloy's loss (Varl) and Tilda's loss (Elisabeth). Tilda expressed her condolences to Aloy - Aloy accepted and decided not to blame her.

About Tilda's feelings - I was sad when she explained how Titus became the only family for Rembrandt and finally is lost as well. That's exactly how Tilda took Elisabeth. Elisabeth is the only and last person Tilda cared for and is lost from Tilda's life. Here, Tilda wants to be honest (very rare moment, right?) about how she feels, and maybe this is the moment that Aloy and Tilda really understand each other's feelings.

5. The Night Watch, Rembrandt van Rijn, 1642

Tilda joined Far Zenith.

Great masterpiece. Many portions of the dialogues focused on the painting itself. The other focus is on the girl - Tilda in Far Zenith. Tilda is saying she's seen something. She is underestimated but she keeps some secrets. I personally think that is not about her love for Elisabeth (or Aloy/Beta). It should be something bigger than just her life. Hope we can see what it was in the next game.

Also, it's interesting that Tilda said "what's real in a painting?". What's real in Tilda's life?

6. A Ship on the High Seas Caught by a Squall, Known as ‘The Gust’, Willem van de Velde (II), ca. 1680

Tilda went to space with Far Zenith.

This painting is deeply connected to Tilda's Dutch ancestry. Exploring the world at great cost but always turned to their home. Also willing to face dangers to make their fortunes. Now their life's work remains here with Tilda.

7. Lidded ewer for the Amsterdam Goldsmiths Guild, Adam van Vianen (I), 1614

Now Aloy moves to the upper floor, which implies she's getting closer to "now". Tilda mentions Elisabeth for the first time in this scene ("How like Elisabet you are - function over form"). Then they talked about how Tilda got these collections from the museum and why she decided to keep them on earth. They are finishing their moments to understand each other and are being ready to talk about real matters.

8. Bacchant, Adriaen de Vries, 1626 + Frenzy, Artus Quellinus (I) (attributed to), na 1648 – in of voor 1662

Tilda doesn't say anything about the two statues - these are symbols of Aloy and Tilda in a current state. Aloy understands why Tilda is showing these so not many words are needed more. Aloy feels how much Tilda suffers from grief, almost madness, and is sorry for her. If we think about how Aloy didn't want to deal with emotions (whether it's hers or others), it is a unique moment for Aloy to understand how the other person feels without any resistance. This is a safer way for her to do so. Wait, is that why Tilda wants to show the gallery first to Aloy before meeting in person? Because Tilda already knows how Elisabeth would react if she brings up her emotions?

This was a long one to write... but I really enjoyed this scene and the Guerrilla team truly did amazing work. I'm pretty sure after a few hundred years, humanity will take video games as one form of art. I hope we can see more thoughtful narratives from games so they leave something in our hearts after playing.

If you like this type of thinking, I also created another post about Aloy and Tilda's first conversation at Tilda's house after this scene.

Lastly, here is the little flow connecting this scene and the next scene from Tilda’s lines.

"Now, lo and behold, here I am". (smiling at Aloy) "There you are."

#horizon forbidden west #hfw aloy #hfw dialogues #aloy x tilda #aloy/tilda #tilda van der meer #hfw spoilers #Youtube #elisabeth sobeck #aloy #aloy horizon #tilda x elisabet

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mass-effect-galaxy · 1 year

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Der Grabhort - Horizon Zero Dawn Folge 8 [Deutsch / German]

Aloy reist nach Osten zur Banuk-Grenze, wo sich vor hunderten von Jahren Elisabeth Sobeck mit den militärischen Führern ihrer Zeit getroffen hat. Auf dem Weg stößt sie auf ein mysteriöses Lager, in dem Maschinen und Menschen in seltener Harmonie zusammenleben.

#horizon zero dawn aloy #horizon zero dawn #aloy #hzd #Youtube

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solar-lombax · 2 years

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Happy birthday Elisabeth Sobeck!

She's 2 years olds today!

#To my followers #Ignore this lol #Horizon forbidden west #Elisabeth Sobeck

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h0riz0nstuff · 4 years

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Horizon Inktober 2019 repost, n°18, 17, 20, 19.

Travis and Liz and their last Halloween (misfit), Oseram Men and their tattoos (ornament), Rost teaching little Aloy how to hunt (tread), Aloy and Varga and a very redundant dialogue fail xD (sling) (I mean, fireballs, really ? the sling already does that, me xD)

#hzd #horizon zero dawn #ps4 #guerrilla games #ps4 games #video games #the frozen wilds #horizon fanart #hzd inktober #ink drawing #grey markers #elisabeth sobeck #travis tate #aloy #rost #varga #oseram #tattoo #Halloween

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twijfelaar · 2 years

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Scholars want to know, was Elisabeth Sobeck gay???

#horizon forbidden west #the answer is yes

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darksidetracer369 · 1 year

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This is how i imagine Tilda looked like back in the day with Lis and GOD she is HOT!!! 🔥🔥I don't blame Lis nope i fall for her too.. 😹💦👀👀💦🥰Tilda do it use your vingers en tong en riem aan dank je liefde ... 😻☝️👅🍆

#tilda van der meer #horizon forbidden west #elisabeth sobeck #GOD #HELP ME!!!!#TILDA USE ME PLEASE #SHE IS SO FUCKING HOT

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raptorofwar · 3 years

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Horizon: Zero Dawn ramblings. Spoilers.

The Ethics of Scientific Progress, or Why Ted Faro is a Little Bitch.

So, Ted Faro is the founder of Faro Robotics, which, as we all know, created the Faro Focus, Corruptors, Deathbringers, Metal Devils, as well as the Faro Plague, the grey goo scenario that ends up wiping out life on Earth and initiates the Zero Dawn project. So he’s a pretty shitty dude.

But what I want to talk about today is the purging of APOLLO, the part of GAEA that would bring the new humans of the world science, history, art, and all the sciences and disciplines man last had at their disposal. Quick refresher of the lore; Ted goes behind Zero Dawn’s back, deletes APOLLO (and part of ARTEMIS), then murders all of Zero Dawn’s leads, known as Alphas, by exposing them to the barren, deoxygenated atmosphere.

Teddy boy does this whole spiel about how technology did this, and how he’s saving mankind by not giving them the disease. And at first I kind of agreed with his logic, even as I disagreed with his actions.

But when you think about it, Ted’s not being a hero. He’s being a coward, again.

See, he says it’s technology’s fault. That technology as a whole is to blame. But technology is also what Zero Dawn is. It’s Elisabeth Sobeck’s entire field. Her robots were better than Ted’s, and they were sustainable. So we can see in the world of H:ZD that technology can be, was, and still is applied sustainably, ethically.

And Faro never did that! Throughout his tower you can see evidence that his company was an utter shitter. Autonomous military death machines that showed obvious problems long before the beginnings of the plague. No restrictions on targeting: one file noted them processing endangered dolphins.

Faro’s passionate speech about the failings of technology are an act of cowardice, a cop-out. “It wasn’t my fault! It was technology’s!” Except tech had the potential to change the world for the better. Look at Sobeck’s company. And it is 100% Ted’s fault. He built these machines. For all intents and purposes, he pulled the trigger. And so his final act is one of cowardice and denial, saying that it wasn’t his fault and dooming mankind. Like they wouldn’t make the exact same mistakes he did without a warning of what happened when someone did this precise thing.

And this is a fairly common thread. Whenever someone goes, “If I don’t do it, someone else will!” (cough cough Henry Wu, Jurassic Park), that may be true, but that’s not an invitation for you to be the problem. That’s like looking at a national park and going, “Well, someone’s gonna cut it down,” and choosing to be the evil in the world.

Ted Faro’s a little bitch.

#horizon zero dawn

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theladyskull · 2 years

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Starting a new HZD/HFW Fanfic

I just started my new AU Horizon Zero Dawn Fanfic. I haven't even continued my other one and I'm already starting a new one.

HORIZON FORBIDDEN WEST SPOILERS UNDER HERE!

Present time AU Horizon Zero Dawn. Everyone is Alive. GAIA is a Cooperation under the lead of Elisabet Sobeck. Every "subfunction" is a branch, other Alpha Prime leaders are CEO's of their subfunctions. Ted Faro (Faro Industries) still builds War machines, but no Faro Plague, wants to destroy the GAIA Cooperation. Zenith is another company that works partly with Faro, wants to take over GAIA and ultimately destroy Faro (double-cross work shenanigans).

Aloy is an AI in an android body (daughter of Elisabeth). Zo helps Aloy in the world. Varl and Erend are bodyguards. Lots of characters return, haven't hashed out the small details.

My OC Delya, a hacker under the wing of Travis Tate, gets a disturbing call from Travis as he goes in hiding, with the message to seek out Elisabet Sobeck and get help. Lots of mistrust, espionage, drama, intrigue, miscommunications and romance.

#HZD #Horizon Zero Dawn #HFW #Horizon Forbidden West #Aloy #Erend #erend vanguardsman #Delya Griffin #Delya #my oc #oc delya griffin #delya x erend #delyaxerend #ocxerend #oc x erend

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h0riz0nstuff · 5 years

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