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20skai · 4 months
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Why did I just find out that Karlach’s current endings are technically “failed ones.”
Spoilers below the cut for those who haven’t finished BG3
According to this video I watch, that references a redditor that did a bunch of data mines, that the Upper City in Act 3 is where Mama K’s trigger happens that we the PC could fix her engine without sending her back to the hells, her burning out, or becoming illithid. I’m so hurt!
But apparently Larian is known for dropping cut content in there games but then restoring it after some time has passed. I hope that’s the case because what I’ve learned about companions, quests etc would make me pick it all up again.
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mybg3notebook · 6 months
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Just wanted to let you know that Gale has several radically different endings depending on the choices you make. The power-mad wizard stereotype that you're concerned about is indeed one possible ending, but it's considered one of the "bad" endings. There are other possible endings that I think you would be happy with. I hope that assuages your concerns enough that you will eventually play the full game and pick up your Gale character analysis series again.
Hello. Thank you for letting me know. Unfortunately, I have a massive disappointment with the game (I finished it already a couple of months ago, but I only felt disdain and playing it to the end was a chore more than fun), specially with act 3, and the several plot holes, lore inconsistencies, and even inconsistencies within the same game (you are told things in Act1 that never are reflected in Act3).
Many of these things removed my intentions in continuing this blog with analysis of lore and characters:
The rush in most quests, specially in Act3
The abandonment of the development of chars except for only one, the favourite of Larian that was never favourite in the community according Larian statistics (during EA and release, it's obvious in the infographics they shared even though they concealed it, lol),
The dumbing down of many quests and stories,
The rewriting of chars in the last moment that, although it makes them better than in EA, they clearly were abandoned mid-way (aka Wyll),
The rewriting of chars and stories that makes them immensely stupid or without sense, like Cazador's (the data mining content around him during EA was several times more interesting and complex than the cartoonish, silly, evil character we had in the final product)
Karlach (amazing char that can't be more rushed in its current state). She also suffers from this “stupidity” oversimplification because having archdruids among our companions (or wizards that may know archwizards) would allow us to deal with her problem in many other ways (but who cares about lore? Larian clearly doesn't),
Halsin, added in the last moment, made resources get split in a char that was not fully developed and feels wasted potential while also taking the place of another that had some kind of work done during EA (Helia) but clearly had to be thrown to the rubbish entirely in order to put Halsin in her place,
The useless and nonsense creation of concepts that were never part of the vast lore of Forgotten Realms and they had no real needs to create them for this plot (aka, the ridiculous crown or the wtf "Karsite" weave),
Mystra herself, presented as a god that can't see the future (who due to her rank she can), so it's very stupid to show her as whimsical as Lolth and command the destruction of one of her Chosen just like that (premature explosion), when she values her Chosen and their utility; after all, her chosen ones have a divine part of herself. She is still a Goddess who sees mortal life in a different lens, but I felt she was presented in the oversimplification of "she is a bitch". All her complexity just thrown to the rubbish, like so many other concepts in this game.
The ridiculous lack of consistency of the character the Emperor with himself by the end of the game in some paths,
The bizarre and unnecessary creation of a lot of lore about Orpheus and a "githyanki resistance" when you always had in the lore the Githzerai,
The lack of any consequences of your character in act 3. For example, drows can be absolutely fine walking around Baldur's Gate, treated as if they were humans, when everyone knows that drows are part of the Absolute lines (even Larian created that piece of lore in Ketheric's room explaining how they were recruiting Drow warriors tired of Lolth). The privileged power that a drow Tav had in the goblin camp in act 1 should have been contrasted with a difficulty to walk through Baldur's Gate. This was even a promised consequence told by Sven in an interview that, clearly, was not implemented.
The general lack of reactivity of the companions to the events in act 3, except for the favourite one.
The cut content (which is immensely richer and more interesting than the oversimplified version of what they left)
The list goes on and on, but you can read the official forums for more details and discussions.
I don't know. Maybe the game should have been "The Dark Urge and The Vampire in Baldur's Gate" alone, and leave it at that, so people who were not interested in those things could buy another game. Honestly, I'm deeply disappointed with the game to the point I decided not to play it again until they do a Definitive Edition, like they had to do with DOS2 (which ALSO had a terrible last act with numberless lose-ends and quests without resolution), and make a decent coherent act3 (hoping they will do it, since in Definitive Edition DOS2 was an improvement but not a fix, truly). Compare Act 1 quality with Act 3, and, at least in my case, I feel a bit scammed.
So far, this blog will remain here, but it will be mostly inactive, since I lost any interest in this game, and now I am playing other things. I feel this game would have been a gem but ended up being too messy for whimsical decisions. The excuse of time and resources are not valid for Larian in this case: after all we were always told that the game was going to be released when it was going to be ready, and we ended up with an EA of a full game, with a lot of valuable cut content, inconsistency lore, inconsistency in characters, and 60% of the act 3 bugged.
I'm sorry for the negativity of this post, I truly wanted to love this game, but felt a deep disappointment that, I hope, a definitive edition of it may fix in the future, eventually.
Thank you again for reading what was done during EA.
@dragonagitator, believe me, part of my disappointment also comes from Larian's deaf ears when it comes to feedback. During EA I sent them a lot of feedback, and it was barely addressed. The only one that I saw was the incorporation of lgbt npcs in the world to see them integrated in Faerun, and not just the isolated (and potential) queer!Tav. Check the official forums and you will see a lot of these feedbacks that were made even in EA, and were not taken care of.
A lot of people warned Larian since EA about making the same mistakes they did in DOS2, of making companions like "beast" (with almost no content), of unbalancing content between Larian's faves and the other companions, and did they care? No. A lot of feedback about Karlach's writing and ending was sent, and what was the solution? None. Karlach stays in her precarious story as usual. The lack of reactivity of companions in act 3 is also a well known feedback. So far, no solutions on that topic either. The list is too long, honestly, and when it comes to lore it's even worse. They sold a game, promoting it to be a thing that is not.
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optiwashere · 6 months
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Dammit just saw that post, you already know lmao
(This was about the Shadowheart hugs dialogue data mine)
LOL. Well, I appreciate the heads up truly and honestly. We the people deserve it.
God, if they put in important, dramatic hugs I will be a great big fuckin' mess of joy. Let us hug our companions (romantically or platonically) after some of their big moments.
Hugging Karlach after she gets her revenge?
Hugging Shadowheart after she returns from the torture with Shar?
Hugging Gale after you explain to him that you're gonna find a way that doesn't involve him blowing up?
The possibilities, they are wonderful.
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ishouldgay · 8 months
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I have decided that once they fix Minthara I’m going to romance her as Shadowheart. Since I’m just incapable of doing a full evil run (especially considering how sad Shadowheart’s dark run is) I’m going to play her as being devastated by her actions in the grove and trying to come to terms with that in act 2 and then turning away from Shar in response.
I’m also just going to stay FAR away from Karlach until I see how it’s possible to have her and Minthara at the same time. It’s possible that the data mined lines aren’t a possibility now. Which is a shame because I love her so much.
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eeldritchblast · 10 months
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I'm really hoping that someone finds a way to combine the more Afrocentric features that Karlach had in the earlier patches her more rugged and scarred appearance from the data mined content. It's really a shame that they just took all that away for the upcoming launch...😐
It is definitely, definitely possible to mod that just by editing her head. Hell, I could give it a try myself come launch if no one else does.
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saintlethanavir · 4 months
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Do you have sources for the head mod thing? I can't find anything on their blog
It’s here , she answered an ask about it and tbh I just don’t feel that it’s a personal preference to draw Karlach that way. The person who made the original data mined head mod @/dalishious is controversial at best and bigoted in a few ways at worst. I think she should look at why it’s her personal preference to supposedly draw Desi features over East Asian features.
Plus if you really want to get into it we should be worried about that part of it but also the fact one of their mods is from the Classics But Make it Gay and they allowed DoveGraveyard within the last Classics project ( who by the way mostly does incestuous pieces of work and openly does so). I don’t really trust someone with ANYTHING if they allow that kind of content within their works.
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infernalbarbarian · 8 months
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choke - i don’t know how but they found me
if i could burn this town i wouldn’t hesitate to smile while you suffocate & die.
hell yeah - corook
could be jealous, but the truth is, if they don’t like you, they’re fuckin’ stupid.
good for her - mothica
‘cause if you stand in her way, she’s not gonna behave.
alpha - little destroyer
i’m feeling scorned, fires from hell. say you’re a god man. so what? i’m the devil herself.
inferno - sub urban, bella poarch
baby, i’m the reason why hell’s so hot.
burn - the pretty reckless
this fire is raging, i can’t find the door. i just wanna die here, but you wanted more.
i’ll be good - jaymes young
i never meant to start a fire, i never meant to make you bleed.
mercy - king marla
i’ve been getting so tired, starting so many fires. i always find a way to burn.
overwhelming - jon bellion
yeah, i got a hot one. she don’t want no problem if there’s not one.
horns - bryce fox
she’s the fire in the sin, and i burn breathing her in.
underworld - cypress
trapped in the underworld. will you free me from myself? let me rise above my death.
put me to work - big data
turn me on, i go berserk.
sensitive - mothica
i wish i could care less, but i just care too much.
simmer - hayley williams
rage is a quiet thing. well, you think that you’ve tamed it, but it’s just lying in wait.
flaws - bastille
there’s a hole in my soul. can you fill it? can you fill it?
almost touch me - maisy kay
i can taste frustration on your breath in the midst of flirtatious innocence. meet at my fingertips, just an inch from my lips, getting too hard to resist. see your eyes in a darkened room. look at mine, see where your thoughts stray to. ‘cause i get chills every time you almost touch me.
i’m yours - isabel larosa
nervous, trip over my words. you’re so pretty it hurts. baby, i’m yours.
play with fire - sam tinnesz
i love the smell of gasoline. i light the match to feel the heat. i’ve always liked to play with fire.
nails - call me karizma
you’re an angel if you say so, but you have horns for a halo.
i am the fire - halestorm
my flame is rising higher. i am the fire, i am burning brighter. roaring like a storm.
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drunkforestnymph · 9 months
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I'll learn how to download mods if someone gives us one for data mined karlach tbh
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Wait I’m so confused about the new karlach model. What happened to the data mined one?
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teturelira · 3 months
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Wife
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teturelira · 18 days
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If I ever stop drawing karlach and millie being ultimate lesbians assume I died
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teturelira · 8 days
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Modern girls
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teturelira · 6 days
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Since those two are my absolute favs rn I did this couple meme for fun! And to show them to y’all
(This is purely my karlach hc so if you disagree with anything I put there, too bad)
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