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seventeenlovesthree · 13 days

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Digi Dynamic Shipping Game

Send me two names among the following 12 and I’ll write a short analysis post about them:

Whether canon provides input on them or not.

The first Adventure season is very adamant about making sure that the viewer identifies Sora as the "mom/big sister" friend of the group. This becomes mostly apparent when she is consistently protecting and/or taking care of Mimi and Hikari - but also Takeru. As I had pointed out in the post about the family angle between Sora, Yamato and Takeru, the latter functions as a bridge between the broken family dynamics they all appear to have at this point. Since Takeru is the youngest member of the group for the majority of the season, he is the most vocal about Sora basically being a motherly figure - which is even more blatantly stated in the English dub version where he straight up tells her that he doesn't "miss his mom so much" when she is around. And it makes sense that he perceives her that way, considering how she took everyone under their wing, including him, functioning as the voice of reason to prevent the others from fighting - especially when his brother is involved -, supporting them in the back however she could. And since Sora herself is struggling with her own sense of obligation, questioning her intentions and ability to love - is it really surprising that, the moment someone like Takeru finally reassures her, tells her that he likes her and doesn't want her to disappear, she immediately stops crying? Finding her composure again, regaining her positive outlook?

Both Sora and Takeru need validation, this becomes quite clear and is an ongoing theme between them through the course of Adventure - there is a reason why Takeru immediately becomes more serious and determined once Sora (and Taichi too) tells him to take care of and protect Hikari. He craves to be needed, he doesn't want to be a burden and actually being trusted by someone like Sora (and Taichi, again!), someone he greatly admires, is a huge boost for him. Maybe even the central motivation he needed (aside from Yamato's reassurance) to not give up, to "fulfill his responsibility", on his way to let Angemon evolve to HolyAngemon. Just like Takeru's words may have been a little stepping stone for Sora to activate her own Crest as well...

After Adventure, there aren't a lot of visible cues that indicate the same/a bigger level of closeness between these two (even taking into account that Sora and Yamato had been dating through the course of 02), but there are little tidbits here and there that do indicate care between them. It's when Takeru protects her from a Snimon attack in 02 (once again showing that he is responsible and protective!), it's when Sora calls him to ask whether he is okay in Tri (still showing off her caring attitude towards him!)...

One might argue that all of these framings are entirely familial, since there is so much focus on the family angle, especially when you keep the age gap of three years between them in mind. However, the reason why I chose the screenshot(s) above may indicate another meaning after all... Because similarly to my previous Daiora analysis, people tend to mainly focus on Sora's romantic potential with Taichi and Yamato - even though there may be other candidates who are potentially just as - if not more - emotionally compatible with her...

Whether I think why and how they’d work.

A famous callback Tri pulled on Adventure is the awkward silence between Sora, Taichi and Yamato in the fourth movie - mirroring the scene in which Sora runs away from the group, unable to tell them why she wanted to be by herself and why she considers herself "unable to love". In Tri, both Taichi and Yamato are at a loss, they have no idea how to deal with her. When they were still kids, all it took was for Takeru to approach her, thank, reassure and tell her that he "likes" her - which is probably why Yamato's instinct as a teenager at this point seems to be the following: "Shall we ask Takeru?"

Takeru, as opposed to his big band leader brother, has a so called "ladies-man-persona" in Tri, he's got a reputation of having dated several girls and appears to be very friendly with Meiko, much to Hikari's jealousy amusement. However, romance is not Tri's strongest feat - and just like we never learn whether or not Jyou's girlfriend is real, we also don't know what exactly Takeru has been doing all this time. He's famous for wearing a mask consisting of smiles and one may or may not be worried about him developing unhealthy dating habits that never result in long-lasting relationships....... OR we stop assuming the worst and take things at face value for once: Takeru Takaishi is a very kind person at heart, and even if he hides behind a mask, has a very big soft spot for reassuring girls around him.

Do you know who also has a soft spot for reassuring others while hiding their feelings behind a mask at times? Sora Takenouchi. They are both incredibly observant of the people around them and very keen to put them at ease, mostly through words - and just like we have seen above, they NEED that kind of validation. It's why Takeru notices that Sora got a new haircut and points it out to her, whereas his brother hadn't seen it at all. It's why Takeru tries to keep track on everything that is happening, not only because he's on his way to become a novelist, but because he cares and even if he probably still can't be honest about his own feelings - he knows that it doesn't hurt to notice and compliment others, he knows that he can make others feel good by being kind like that. Just like Sora is proooobably aware that her caring nature may not be the healthiest self-care approach, but at least puts smiles on everybody else's faces.

Again, this may not sound like the most stable foundation for a relationship, but I could actually see it working out for them. I'm not saying that I want them to "parent each other", but maybe together, they could reach a state where everything gets a little bit easier. Crying together, opening up to each other about how difficult it had been to always uphold that friendliness because they may have felt responsible, even if there were moments when they both would just have wanted to curse and scream... They both love their friends dearly, but may crave to allow themselves a shoulder to lean on. From someone who understands the struggles. I think it could be a great lesson for both of them as consenting adults, trying to live their own lives - having Sora tell Takeru that he doesn't always have to be the strong one to keep everyone together, that he is loved for who he is and that he won't be left again (because his abandonment issues may still be pretty strong). And simultaneously having Takeru tell Sora that she needs to look in the mirror to realize that she deserves to be loved for who she is as well (especially because her flight instinct might still be pretty strong). And that she deserves someone who actually TELLS her that...

Whether I’d prefer them as platonic or romantic ship.

I had thought about Takeru as analogy to Yamato before, simply because he is so much more vocal towards Sora. And while the age gap and mother angle may make things a little bit difficult and even though I had never thought too deeply about the romantic side of Sokeru... I can understand why they used to have their niche here on tumblr. Art of Takeru protecting Sora for once ("I am not a kid anymore!"), art of him letting loose in front of her... The appeal is definitely there and I am a big fan of mutually reassuring ships, so while I usually go for them platonically, I do have a bit of a fondness for their romantic potential now! So it would be nice to see how their relationship may pan out in canon in "the future".

#sokeru #my two cents #meta #shipping analysis #shipping game #sora takenouchi #takeru takaishi #tk takaishi #digimon #digimon adventure

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curedigiqueen · 8 days

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Why I think Ryo is the Ken of Survive.

Obviously, all the Survive kids are meant to reflect one of the 8 original Adventure kids. However, the characters aren't completely one to one, as each of the characters are in fact, unique characters in their own right. (Most evident I think is in the fact I'd assign basically every character except for Miyuki a different crest from their adventure counterpart). But they do echo the basic archetype of the role each adventure character played in the series. For the most part this is self explanatory, some more than others.

Takuma is Taichi Minoru is Koshiro (Less obvious but that's a separate point) Aoi is Sora Shuuji is Joe Saki is Mimi Kaito is Yamato Miu is Takeru Miyuki is Hikari

However, Survive has 10 important human/digimon partnerships.

The sole adult of the group, the professor, even bares some resemblance to a rather important "old man" of adventure, Gennai. An old man who knows a lot of their situation, was involved in the "inciting incident" looks after the kids to a certain extent, but is rather unreliable and has amnesia regarding some very important things he should know. Of course original Gennai isn't even really human, and therefore doesn't have a digimon partner, (Jijimon also takes on some Gennai traits imo) but Akiharu I would still say parallels Gennai.

However, Ryo doesn't match any of the original adventure cast. But I think it is fair to say he resembles Ken. Ryo has a worm digimon. Ryo has a family member whose death deeply affected him. Ryo is grumpy and aggressive, while hiding a secretly gentler and hurting side. Ryo is self-destructive, at the cost of his partner.

Ryo can't be Adventure Ken really, because Adventure Ken doesn't really exist. But Ken isn't exactly an 02 kid in the way Daisuke, Iori and Miyako are. A reoccurring theme in 02 is the difference in outlook between the Adventure kids, the Adventure and 02 kids, and the 02 exclusive kids. And so Ken is in no way one of the original Adventure kids, but there is something to be said of the fact that his (executive meddling hellscape) backstory reflects experiences of Takeru, Hikari, more than it does the other 02 original kids. He even has an associated crest. In many ways, Ken is a retroactive Adventure character, without actually being an Adventure character. Ken in the context of digimon Adventure 02 is very much so an example if a character like Takeru had been driven to the darkness, who then had to be rehabilitated by a set of characters with an outside perspective. Really that is what all of 02s Jogresses is really, the new kids helping the more experienced kids deal with their unprocessed issues. Miyako helps Hikari look out for herself, Iori helps Takeru stop lashing out in anger from keeping his emotions hidden, and Daisuke helps Ken see value in his own continued existence.

Which is why I think Ryo is a homage to Ken. It's not the "Adventure Ken" that theoretically exists, the little boy wondering around the digital world with Wonderswan Ryo or whatever did or did not happen in that unreliable backstory, but 02 Ken, the Ken after the trauma, who needs SOMEONE to connect with him to help save him. He's the sole character who is taken from 02 era rather than the first Adventure era. And 02's themes are in this character. Ryo dies in part due to hopelessness and depression. He is unsavable the first playthrough. Unsavable in the initial adventure context. The original context where the focus is on survival and connection with your own digimon. Wormmon couldn't Save Ken alone. just as Kunemon couldn't. Both Wormmon and Kunemon die in desperate attempts to try and save their partners (really from themselves). But Ryo is saved from death when you can manage to become friends with him. When you connect with him, not unlike how Daisuke managed to save Ken. And from there, Ryo manages to save other people (Shuuji) from falling into that same despair, not unlike how Ken tried to reach out to the dark spore kids. It's noteworthy that of the 3 initial endings, the moral route is the closest to the truthful route, but aside from Ryo and Shuuji has one key difference. It ends like the original Adventure did, the kids and their partners separating, while the truthful route has the kids and their partners living together, invoking the 02 ending. While the Harmony and Wrathful routes do also bear a resemblance to 02's ending, just relatively less optimistically, Harmony and Wrathful routes involve the failings of personal connections. The failure to understand each other. Ultimately the truthful route resolves peacefully, even the big bad reconciling with his sister, no longer feeling the need to lash out at others. Ryo is the factor that takes this adventure and adds a bit of 02 to it, 02 in this context being the importance of connection. 02 being what makes the happy ending.

It's not a 1 to 1, after all, all of the characters are different from their adventure counterpart, and take pieces from one another. For example, its Minoru that has the parental divorce backstory, and Miyuki is a protective older sister to the professor, not a younger sister to Takuma, and the Professor is the most curious about the digital world's nature, and is the one with the digimon partner Gabumon. Saki is the one hesitating the most about going home at all rather than being the one to bring it up the most. I'd say Ryo also has elements of Joe in his fear of his partner and for being an unreliable older kid, and Shuuji has elements of Ken in his cruelty of Lopmon, and insistence on authority and desire to measure up against an older brother with whom he has a flawed relationship. Really none of these kids match up one to one with the adventure kids, and that's great, but I think it is fair to say that as far as analogies go, Ryo does draw from Ken.

02 is an extension of Adventure, and despite their differences in plot, theme and character arcs, no discussion of Adventure will ever be truly complete without discussing certain elements of 02 in relation to that, particularly 02s epilogue and what it means thematically. Ryo is a reflection of Ken, and how his story and needs were a reflection of the themes of 02, and how those themes were built off of the themes of Adventure. How Ken needed something that was not as prevalent in Adventure. Naturally, I think the "truthful" story of survive, would have to be a route that includes elements of 02 no matter how faithful it is to other Adventure themes otherwise.

#digimon #digimon survive #digimon adventure #kinda #ryo tominaga #I have not read any interviews (recently at least) and I played survive over the course of nearly two years #so truthful memories are a bit foggy #but I did write most of this during truthful iirc #it's also been a while since i've watched 02 so #anyway this is completely based on my own impressions

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shihalyfie · 2 years

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So if you’ve known Digimon Adventure for long enough, you’ll know that it has some very strict color-coding for its characters thanks to the Crests: Taichi with orange, Yamato with blue, Sora with red, Koushirou with purple, Mimi with green, Jou with grey, Takeru with yellow, and Hikari with pink. There’s also a very strict “order” of characters, which is exactly the order above (it’s the order in which we saw their Digimon’s first evolution, and in the second ED). The franchise has followed this with strict consistency for almost the entire time since Adventure’s airing (it took until a little after 02 for the order to completely solidify, but after that it basically hasn’t budged). For Tamers fans, the order for the main three characters has also been consistent -- although there are rare exceptions, it’s pretty much always Takato, Jian, and Ruki in that order, associated with their D-Ark colors red, green, and blue respectively.

On the flip side, 02 and Frontier have been...decidedly less straightforward. Things like color coding and character ordering probably don’t matter much to the average viewer, but for fanartists (like @digitalgate02 and @demonoflight, who graciously assisted in helping me write the rest of this post), this can easily drive a person absolutely nuts. However, thanks to DigiFes 2022 and other surrounding events, these questions have finally been cleared up!...Maybe.

Let’s take a look at the history of 02 and Frontier’s color handling and ordering (with some bonus series thrown in)!

So as I said earlier, generally speaking, the Adventure order and coloring has been very straightforward, and when you involve Adventure and 02 in a group of twelve, the order for that has been consistent for the most part after 02′s airing: Taichi, Yamato, Sora, Koushirou, Mimi, Jou, Takeru, Hikari, Daisuke, Ken, Miyako, Iori. (This ordering has basically all been all but completely solidified on the Kizuna website and in most Kizuna promotional materials thereof.) That said, things get a little more complicated once we talk about the 02 group specifically, especially because of Ken’s unusual position -- usually “latecomer party members” are added on at the end, but Ken ends up in a right-hand man position to Daisuke in terms of the story, so it feels a little awkward to tack him on in the end like that. If you go by rough order of “evolution introduction” for the series, that implies a Daisuke-Miyako-Iori-Takeru-Hikari-Ken order, but other materials have offered a “Jogress order” (Daisuke-Ken-Miyako-Hikari-Iori-Takeru) or “original order but with Ken moved up” (Daisuke-Ken-Miyako-Iori-Takeru-Hikari).

Things get even trickier when you get to figuring out their image colors. You could try doing the Crest colors (orange and blue for Daisuke, pink...? for Ken, red and green for Miyako, purple and grey for Iori, yellow for Takeru, and pink for Hikari). But not only does this cause overlap with Ken and Hikari both having pink of some kind, it’s also just not very good for design and merch, due to the lopsided nature of three of its members having two colors while the others have three (the Kizuna website attempts it, but only on the character square borders).

The seemlingly easiest and most straightforward one to use is the D-3 colors (blue for Daisuke, black/grey for Ken, red for Miyako, yellow for Iori, green for Takeru, pink for Hikari), and we do have quite a bit of precedent on this one, most notably in 02′s second ED. Unfortunately, this color scheme comes with one major issue: grey isn’t exactly a very easy color to use in design, especially for merch. (Jou merchandise struggles with this issue a lot, and it’s really only offset by the fact he’s surrounded by a whole seven others to make the impact less noticeable, plus the fact it’s explicitly a light grey, unlike Ken’s dark grey and black D-3.) Ken’s D-3 remaining black was a very important symbol of his penance in-series, but it makes merchandise making a bit tricky. It also is not very easy to use for shiny glowy things, and even this same ED struggles with that:

...yeah. (White is never used for Ken anywhere else.)

And then there’s the fact Ken’s Wormmon is associated with being the “green” side of Paildramon, and Daisuke and Ken’s Jogress D-3 combo is blue and green...but because the other combo colors (red/white and yellow/white) aren’t really ones that are easy to make hard matchups with, it’s still hard to say that there was any hard association with green and Ken back in 02, especially since that makes it more complicated with Takeru.

Even Kizuna struggled with this for a bit. The movie shows Takeru with a yellow phone case, in a context where the other five members of the 02 group have cases matching their original D-3s, but in all other contexts -- promotional art, merchandise, the card game, the character song album -- it’s back to green, matching with his D-3. But there is merch that associates Takeru with yellow, his Crest color, overlapping him with Iori...and giving Ken green. Generally speaking, it’s understandable that any context with all twelve Tokyo Chosen Children will have to have a color overlap somewhere, but Takeru particularly sticks out as one they don’t really know what to do with.

(Note that the card game’s backing colors don’t apply; the card game’s mechanics are tied to its own set colors, which means that characters are placed in there for reasons closer to their Digimon’s archetype than their own original series image colors.)

However, starting with the Kizuna character song albums (technically also the concurrently-released Digimon Stitches, but that one also had a contradictory palette in the same set), it seems like recent merch (especially in relation to the upcoming movie) is finally consistent about color -- but what’s interesting is that Takeru is now orange. That was never used in 02. That wasn’t even used up until 2021!

The theme behind the new colors seems to be, quite simply, their partners’ colors (V-mon’s blue, Wormmon’s green, Hawkmon’s red, Armadimon’s yellow, Patamon’s orange, and either the pink from Tailmon’s ears or Angewomon). This does seem to be in line with the angle taken in both Kizuna and the new movie that this group is rather unusually close with their partners, possibly even more so than their seniors. The benefit of this color scheme is that, with there being a consistent baseline for all six of them, there’s now proper justification for Ken being associated with green, while also not putting Takeru in an awkward position.

These colors were used for the official DigiFes 2022 penlight, which explicitly lists the following colors as the kids’ “image colors”: "light blue" for Daisuke, "red" for Miyako, "yellow" for Iori, "orange" for Takeru, "light pink" for Hikari, and "green" for Ken.

Perhaps acknowledging the truly chaotic nature of this issue (probably fitting when this group is concerned), the Karatez collab firmly, undeniably associates these colors with the original 02 kids instead of just the Kizuna-era ones, but also strings a bunch of other colors here and there to reference their other associations: Daisuke’s orange glasses and shoes (Courage and Friendship), Ken’s black shirt (D-3), Wormmon’s green maracas and blue band (Jogress with Daisuke and V-mon), Miyako’s red shoes and green guitar (Love and Purity), Iori’s purple guitar and grey shoes (Knowledge and Faith), Armadimon’s orange tambourine and green band (Jogress with Takeru and Patamon), Takeru’s yellow shoes (Hope), Hikari’s pink keytar and shoes (D-3 and shoes), and Tailmon’s red keytar (Jogress with Miyako and Hawkmon). That’s basically about all you can cram in there at once. Whew!

(As an aside, some of Miyako’s merch tends to toe dangerously close to purple at times, including in this very collab, but it’s probably intended to be pushing the boundary of what can be considered “red” as far as possible; her smartphone case has some noticeably purple tones, probably to prevent it from overlapping too much with Sora’s red.)

It is still probably a bit weird that this color scheme is obviously retroactive, since it wasn’t ever in 02 itself or anywhere near its airing, but it’s nice to finally have something consistent to work with for once after all these years. Will future things continue to maintain this? Hopefully. Probably.

As for ordering, unfortunately, this is still fluctuating, because even the same sets of merch can’t seem to decide whether Ken is second or last. It does seem like most merch so far has been favoring the Daisuke-Ken-Miyako-Iori-Takeru-Hikari ordering, putting Ken next to Daisuke for obvious reasons, which the movie website also supports -- and the added benefit of this ordering is that if you put them in two rows or columns of three (which is done quite often), the Jogress pairs will still be next to each other. So for the most part, I’d say it’s safe to say things have mostly settled on that one.

Frontier

Frontier is explicitly based off Super Sentai, so that means a lot of its visual compositions with the cast are focused on Takuya in the center. However, unlike Sentai, Frontier doesn’t really have ordered roll calls. And while the OP gives you a Takuya-Izumi-Junpei-Tomoki-Kouji order, putting Kouji last feels a bit off considering we pretty much all know he ends up being Takuya’s lancer character for the series (and unlike Ken, we know this very early in the series). Besides, if you watch Sentai, that’s pretty much just how it goes. The first ED offers multiple different orders, so it’s confusing. (And on one hand, it’s possible to make an argument that it’s refreshing that the orders seem malleable, but on the other hand, this is jarring since ordering is a staple of Sentai.)

Also unlike Sentai, there hasn’t been a lot of consistency with the colors, which is especially strange considering that producer Seki explicitly mentioned that Izumi should be associated with pink due to Sentai’s precedent. In fact, a lot of older materials do seem to want to associate Izumi with pink specifically:

But as you can see, there's already some contradictions in regards to color associations, because we can't tell if Takuya's supposed to be orange or red (Sentai associations would suggest red), whether Junpei should be blue or yellow, or whether Tomoki should be light blue or green...and to make things even more complicated, the D-Scanners all have two colors each (and that’s in base colors, because Takuya and Kouji get new ones later).

And, unfortunately, you shouldn’t expect the elemental symbols to help you either, because not only does Kouji being associated with pure white pose similar problems to Ken having black or dark grey, the combo of red/white/light blue/pink/dark blue/purple also isn't really very balanced in terms of design (no yellows...).

While Frontier didn’t get a consistent stream of merch to be contradictory per se, it turns out that by the time we get to the 20th anniversary stuff, we still don’t have a consistent answer!

(ノ°Д°）ノ︵ ┻━┻

Well, okay, it’s not that bad. The same penlights that doubled down on the new coloring for the 02 kids also offered some official image colors for the Frontier kids as well: “orange-red" for Takuya, "blue" for Kouji, "light green" for Tomoki, "purple" for Izumi, "orange-yellow" for Junpei, and "light grey" for Kouichi. Keeping in mind that the colors have such specific names mainly to not give them too much overlap with the 02 kids’, it’s probably better to consider it as red for Takuya, blue for Kouji, lavender for Izumi, yellow for Junpei, green for Tomoki, and purple-tinted grey for Kouichi. In addition, there’s a consistent aspect about this: they correspond to the grip colors on the D-Scanners (the original ones in the case of Takuya and Kouji), so we have a baseline too!

Kouichi does seem to consistently show an angle of wanting to use proper grey but not really wanting to ruin design composition, so some obvious purple tints are put on it to make it blend nicer with the other colors. This is probably something that’s only possible because unlike with Ken, Kouichi ends up actively embracing his association with darkness, which has a purple elemental symbol and has been associated with “darkness” to some degree in the past (the current card game uses it for darkness-aligned cards even besides Kouichi). On the flip side, the bonus about acknowledging Izumi as having at least some kind of purple tinting to it means much better consistency with Izumi/Fairymon/Shutumon’s coloring.

As for the ordering...well, still, good luck. However, I personally feel that merch lines have been more likely to depict the Takuya-Kouji-Izumi-Junpei-Tomoki-Kouichi order, and if you have to ask me, I personally prefer this ordering as well because it makes a nice alternation between the Hyper Spirit Evolutions (fire/wind/ice and light/thunder/darkness).

Bonus

It seems like it’s always the group ensemble things that want to drive us nuts, because other than having this problem again, that’s what Appmon also has in common with 02 and Frontier. The good thing is that there does seem to be some kind of baseline -- usually Haru-Eri-Astra-Rei-Yuujin seems to be somewhat of a followed order, and Yuujin isn’t really put aggressively in the second position like Ken is because his looming presence in the series isn’t nearly as conspicuous. In addition, the Appli Drive covers also seem to be consistent between the original model and the Duo -- red for Haru, blue for Eri, yellow for Astra, and black/grey for Rei, and this seems to be consistent with their Buddy coloring as well. So one could probably extrapolate and decide that purple for Yuujin would work based on his Duo color and Offmon...but then the second OP decides to mess with you at the last minute.

Of course, the reason why is obvious, and it’s possible it really is just for that OP -- again, grey/black tends to be a hard color to work with, and Yuujin really doesn’t seem to fit the image of purple himself (that’s more Offmon). Sadly, Appmon never lasted long enough to get merch runs to really lock down on any of this, so it’s more “vague” than “contradictory”. But it is at least interesting that Haru is consistently associated with red, despite his temperament completely lacking the tropes associated with the color and the consistent underlying question of whether he’s suitable to be a “protagonist” or not.

But hopefully, this won’t continue to be an issue in the fu--

OH, COME ON

#digimon #digimon adventure 02 #digimon frontier #appmon #digimon ghost game #shihameta

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ladyofthecastleproject · 10 months

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Doubts of the Heart

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Summary:

The 02 group + Mimi, Palmon & Gummymon finally discover why Daisuke was acting alone this whole time. Could the group help Daisuke beat some of his insecurities and doubts?

[Notes: It's 2008; it's bit of Daisuke angst...]

Ken sighed. He was in trouble all over again, no matter what he had done he couldn’t let Daisuke keep doing those all alone.

“So, I decided I will infiltrate in that castle again”

The moment Daisuke said this, he felt his heart skip a beat. Not only him but also everyone else.

“You shouldn’t go all alone.”

“Wallace is still there, right?” Gummymon asked, “Then I should go with you.”

“Did you forget they already know it’s you under that mask?” Iori argued. Calmly, but still assertively.

“I know, but… If we go there in numbers they will use you all against me.”

“So you think the best solution is walking into the enemy territory, knowing it will be easy for them to eliminate you knowing you’re Lightnimon?” Takeru added, calmly. He was trying to behave but deep down he felt a huge anxiety eating him alive.

“That’s… Better than letting anyone else get hurt, don’t you think!?”

“No, it’s not!” Hikari shouted.

“Daisuke, calm down. Calm down and think!” Miyako said, and that wording remembered them all but Ken and Gummymon about a discussion six years prior.

“... Sorry, I just don’t want anyone to get hurt because of me again.”

Was he talking about the previous events before they ended up in the Digital World, or… Wait, Ken totally felt he was also the culprit for something he forgot to apologize for perhaps? The time he had captured everyone but Daisuke, set a fake dangerous scenario for his friends who were his enemies back in time, and psychologically inflicted pain in Daisuke to the point Daisuke himself was trading his own life for the fake group of bakemons disguised as Daisuke’s friends.

“It’s okay,” Tailmon smiled, “We’re fine. And we’re strong, you don’t need to worry about us.”

Ken kept silent, but soon or later he would have to speak up.

“We’re a group” Hawkmon said, “And we will fight alongside you.”

“Why do you want to do this alone?” Palmon asked, frowning. Wormmon, Armadimon and Tailmon were also giving him a concerned look.

“Sorry I… Uh, it’s my fault again.”

“Daisuke I uh… I think I know what’s happening here” Ken said, still not looking at him “You’re still hurt by something more… profound I guess.”

“Huh?”

“That time I… toyed with your mind, and I…”

“Ken, that was six years ago and that’s not the cause of that! You didn’t hurt anyone that time! Except me, but I’m fine!”

“Then why are you… running away?” V-mon asked and sighed, “Sorry, but why are you so scared to tell them?”

“OK, I will talk about it!" He growled, “Listen carefully.”

That time when Ranamon attacked Miyako and Hikari-chan, I was brought to the Digital World. She said if I followed her, they would be freed. I know Miyako told me to NOT do that, but my body moved without my consent.

“OK, I followed you like you wanted. Now let Miyako and Hikari-chan alone!”

“Ohohoho, fine. They’re already free, but you…”

“What do you want with us!?” V-mon stared at her, just like Daisuke.

“You must be eliminated, but this is not my job hoho~”

“You can’t get rid of me that easily!” Daisuke gritted his teeth, “And really, why are you targeting me and my friends!?”

“Because of the Crest of Miracles, you dummy!” she pouted, was he that stupid!? But, judging by Daisuke’s face, he wasn’t aware of that at all “What, you’re its heir and don’t know?”

“I only had a Digimental once or twice, but that’s all! How can that be my crest!? Does a Crest of Miracles exist!?”

“I don’t remember Qinglongmon or Gennai mentioned it before…” V-mon commented.

“Bleh! You’re that clueless!? Oh boy, it will be easy to beat you!”

“Q-quit insulting me and tell us already!”

“Why? If you know, you will do what we don’t want you to” she shrugged. The nerve of that amphibian-like digimon…!

“V-mon. Get her, and make her talk.”

V-mon evolved to XV-mon and flew in her direction, only to be stopped by a laser coming from somewhere. Then, a shadow appeared in front of them, a humanoid digimon with long hair and a peculiar armor filled with eyes.

“What, who are you?!” Daisuke shouted, and XV-mon stopped in front of his partner.

“Me? I’m your nightmare” the mysterious digimon said, smoothly.

“I’ve beaten many nightmares like you before!!” and then the creepy digimon moved quickly, standing behind Daisuke.

“You’re serious, yet I can feel you’re afraid…”

“I’m n-not!”

“You’re afraid of being the cause of someone’s pain. You’re regretting not listening to someone’s advice.”

“I’m not!!” and he covered his ears, to not hear it.

“You feel happy and satisfied right now, but then why is there some doubt in your heart? Aren’t you happy?”

“STOP!” he shouted, and XV-mon tried to hit the armored digimon but the opponent was too fast and hit his digimon in the stomach.

“Is it because of putting them in danger at least once ?”

“I don’t believe you!” Daisuke kept shouting, he was trying his best to not listen to that enemy.

“L-leave Daisuke alone!” XV-mon roared, and tried to hit him again. But this digimon was too fast for his eyes, and got a kick in the gut “GAH!”

“Remember, Daisuke-kun. You put their lives in danger! And you’re putting them in danger again.”

Sadly I let him in. My heart sank and I felt empty inside. I have no idea what happened in the past to have caused me pain, or how I let him invade my heart… All I know is... I had this memory of something bad falling upon us before. Was it the Deltamon case or BlackWarGreymon? I can’t say…

“I’m… I’m sorry, okay? I thought I wasn’t risking anyone’s lives that time! I’m a fool!”

“Daisuke!! Don’t listen to hi-- UGH!” Every attempt to reach Daisuke out was interrupted by that digimon. While Ranamon was cheering in the background.

“Hoho, you think you can talk to your boy?” Ranamon said with a mocked tone, “Master Duskmon is known to invade the opponent’s mind and cause them pain.”

“Good.” Duskmon said, “Repent yourself. Your friends are already hurt, it’s your fault.”

“I’m…. I’m sorry!!”

“Daisuke, don’t--”

Suddenly, XV-mon and I saw Lekismon carrying Wallace in her arms. Then I heard something about the ‘heir of the Crest of Destiny’ and moments later…

“Well, we don’t need you to mess with our plans. Now, you will be…”

XV-mon managed to attack him, so Duskmon stepped back. I was still feeling dizzy and to be honest I don’t know how to say what happened next.

“Farewell. GEIST ABEND. ”

Then, we got hit by lasers fired from that spooky armor. But… Something happened and I can’t remember… A flash very quickly came and teleported us from a white space for a few seconds. I lost my goggles in the meantime, but when we returned…

… They all had disappeared already.

“What was that?” V-mon asked, he had devolved to child level in that short time “Daisuke, are you okay?!”

“Ugh… I’m… Uh, w-where’s that dude!?” Daisuke looked around, and then grabbed his goggles from the ground, which were left in the same place as well “I… V-mon I think I committed another mistake.”

“... ‘Another’? Daisuke, this is just one mistake, no one is hurt! You’re fine! Don’t worry!”

“They, they will come after them! It’s my fault!”

“You were brainwashed!?” V-mon said, “Everyone’s fine! Please calm down!”

“I did something terrible in the past! I… I should’ve been--”

“Daisuke!” V-mon yelled “No one is hurt! Easy, easy!”

“... I’m alive but they might think I’m dead…” I sat on the grass and kept having that emptiness inside my heart “They will tell everyone we’re dead and they will…”

“Stop right there!” V-mon yelled and stared at me, “We’re alive, and they know it! Now look at me, right in the eyes! This wasn’t real, you did not commit any mistake!”

“I… You’re right! I didn’t! But… They were attacked by my fault. So maybe we can… keep away from them, for a while.”

“W-what!?”

“... If Duskmon thinks I’m dead, then let it be! I will become another person! Or, another digimon! And fight against him and his servants for the sake of everyone!”

“You’re talking nonsense…”

“V-mon! Lend me your power, please! I want to do what’s right! I want… I want to fix my mistakes. I will do this, and then, when everyone’s gathered… We will take that creep down!”

I know, it was a bad idea but… Yeah, this is how I became Lightnimon in the first place.

“So you’re still under the effects of that spell?” Miyako frowned.

“Now I understand why Daisuke-kun was acting weird when he and V-mon found me” Mimi mused, “It wasn’t something he would do…”

“What’s that mistake you’re talking about!?” Takeru snapped, “You never hurt us, or put us in danger! That digimon, Duskmon, will pay for messing with your mind.”

“Takeru please no” Daisuke pleaded, “Maybe I’m still under those fabricated memories, or misremembering what happened before, but I don’t want to put you at risk!”

“... It’s okay” Ken interrupted everyone’s rambles, “Daisuke’s still under some spell and that’s why he feels like this. But why would you let it affect you? I doubt you're this weak to fall for this. You weren't affected by BelialVamdemon’s illusions before.”

“... I don’t know why, but… That day I was thinking how lucky I am to have you guys and suddenly I feared losing you all. I don’t overthink, but this time and with all those attacks happening to us… I’m sorry, I was weak.”

“Everyone fears losing someone important to you,” Iori said quietly, “Don’t be too harsh on yourself.”

“Yes,” Takeru and Ken agreed with a nod.

Mimi, Miyako and Hikari were in silence, until…

“That’s okay. Wallace also feels bad for losing Chocomon. But you all taught him to move on and have faith that one day Chocomon would come back.”

Gummymon broke the silence. They all looked at him, who was on Mimi’s lap.

“Gummymon’s right” Hawkmon said, “We’re not mad for you showing a bit of weakness, Daisuke-san. It could’ve happened to any of us I guess.”

“Right, but you’re back to us and we’re here to support you” Wormmon added with a nod, “and we’re the best form of making you remember what actually happened before.”

“We all were together on this, dagya. We’re your friends, we laugh when you’re happy and we cry if you’re sad.”

“Don’t worry about this, okay?” Patamon smiled, “We’re strong, so you don’t need to worry about us!”

“And you can count on us to help you anytime!” Palmon said, “I’m really thankful you helped Mimi, and even let us help you during this time.”

“Now that we know what was going on with you, we can find a way to help better” Tailmon finished.

“Y-you guys…” Daisuke was teary-eyed after hearing those words “Thank you.”

“And since Lekismon is our ally, we could plan how to save Wallace” V-mon looked at Daisuke, “But together.”

“How do we break the spell on Daisuke-kun?” Hikari asked, “While you think you’re weak, you have some resistance to it. I mean, you’re here instead of pretending to be a digimon…”

“You… You’re right…”

“Somehow, I think it’s partially broken,” Ken explained, “Hikari-san’s right about it, and it’s because deep down you trust us and then noticed this is an illogical fear.”

“... Alright, so… maybe if I tell y’all anything I believe to have happened you will debunk said events, right?”

“Bingo.” Miyako replied.

“So… Uhh… Deltamon case?”

“That was my fault, not yours,” Ken laughed nervously. Then said shamesly, “S-sorry.”

“Yeah, Ichijouji-san set us a trap” Iori recalled, “We all decided to go together. We got captured because we were caught off guard, not because of your decisions. And besides, we escaped in time and unmasked Ichijouji-san’s farce.”

“Oh right…” Daisuke nodded, “Then… BlackWarGreymon battles?”

“None of your fault as well” Takeru responded, “We were losing because we weren’t able to stop him, not because of your actions. Besides, it was your idea of moving the last Holy Stone to a safer place with our digivices that made Qinglongmon appear and stop his rampage.”

“Now I remember that… Um… February 2003? I remember I did something stupid…”

“Not your fault at all” V-mon said, “Pukumon and Boltmon were causing trouble, and the Daisuke Kaiser case was caused by Gomamon. And No one got hurt at all! It was thanks to you that we saved the day!”

“Hmm… March 2003?”

“That was my fault actually” Miyako sighed, “You only asked to open the gate for you and Ken-kun, but I messed this up and opened a ton of them. But… You quickly came with a backup plan and we managed to take control over the situation. Imperialdramon in a white armor wielding a sword saved everyone with theirs’ hopes fueled by your stubbornness.”

“Oh that’s right…!! And… Summer from that year?”

“Natchan wasn’t your fault at all” Gummymon raised his ear like a hand, “She was looking for a partner, thought you could be hers… But she couldn’t be yours. You calmed her down and we spent the rest of the day searching for a person to become her partner.”

“Yeah, I’m remembering now… Anything else?”

“Nothing that was your fault,” Hikari replied.

“Nothing?”

“Yeah, nothing of your concern” Takeru smiled.

“I see…”

“Actually I let you carry all my Christmas shopping” Ken laughed again, then he looked down, “I’m sorry…”

“See, none of those were your fault!” V-mon said with a smile, “So are you free from those doubts now?”

“I… I feel better…” his eyes, which were kinda dead until now, started to have highlights again. He smiled back at them all “Thank you everyone. I’m sorry for not letting you know what actually happened… And letting those thoughts corrupt me.”

“But one more question,” Ken stroked his chin, “Why would they capture this Wallace person?”

“Beats me” Daisuke shrugged, “Maybe because of some special power? I don’t understand what they meant at all...”

“... Take me to that castle” and Ken’s words made everyone stare at him in shock.

“W-what!?” Daisuke blinked, “You mean, you and me… Alone!?”

“That’s not good...” Gummymon said calmly.

“Listen, I’m Daisuke’s jogress partner and if we’re together we can use Imperialdramon. Which means we have more chances to get out quickly than dragging everyone with.”

“Ken-kun’s right,” Miyako said with a serious tone, “And I trust him and Daisuke. The rest of us could stay around and prevent the enemies from leaving the area to conquer the Digital World.”

“That’s a plan” Tailmon nodded, “We all agree with this, right?”

“Right!” the rest said.

#arc 5: hinode [concept]#digimon adventure 02 #motomiya daisuke #veemon

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thisgirliscatastrophic · 7 months

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For Daisuke, who thinks that there's nothing special about him, the crest of miracles shows him that there is something inherently in him that is special.

For Miyako, who seems to do so much, but without much focus on what it means to her, passion to encourage her to discover the things that she truly likes.

For Iori, judgment must be fair and compassionate. Hence, it may not always be black and white.

#digimon adventure #digimon adventure 02 #explaining crest choices just a little #the crests to me have always been about something that the kids needed to learn (except for Hikari's crest)#i dont think you can learn light

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orifumioshi · 6 months

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ASDFGJDLIABAIDUIRUWBKWISHDKVDAUZHDEHF HSDJFAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHNALSJEBSOSJSBFNDDJKWFJDOFHAK!!!!!!!!!!????!!!)($2+$9@+$(_2(#!!!!!!!!

*ehem* Sorry. I'm ok. Anyway... Digimon Survive uwu and as an extra: I, myself, was supposed to be born on Feb 29 but I went ahead of time and ruined my mom's telenovela finale by being born on Friday 23rd (ง ื▿ ื)ว

Ok so, I just came back home from watching and I'm still shaking.

02beginning SPOILERS AHEAD!

Because I went to the very first screening at 12 pm, we were only 6 in the room and one guy went cosplaying as Dukemon (was too shy to ask for a proper pic because he was with his girlfriend).

*ehem* well, onto the movie... THANK GOD HERE IN MEXICO FOR THE LATAM SPANISH DUB WE NEVER GOT THE EVOLUTION SONGS DUBBED BECAUSE LISTENING TARGET AND BEAT HIT IN THE CINEMA WAS SUCH A DELIGHT AND A BLESSING I COULDN'T STOP SHAKING and yes, I cried a bit.

The experience of being welcomed with Bolero with an overwhelming audio is something I'll never forget but onto the plot.

Because I thought I would have to wait years to watch it, I actually looked for spoilers but nothing very explicit tbh, I also saw people saying there was body horror but honestly, Ghost Game had it "worse" xD so I wasn't that bothered by what Ukkomon did; he never did it with malice anyway, of course it was kind of... wrong? Awful? But he did it because he genuinely wanted for Rui to be happy; no one told them they had to talk in order to have a healthy relationship.

I don't think I ever felt so close with Daisuke before despite being a Dai oshi; I felt so angry with how Rui's mom treated him, being a 4 years old baby... this was the second time I cried in the movie (the first being listening target and don't believing that I was there watching xD) and I swear I wanted to cross the screen and scream at her a couple of things. Rui was genuinely a good boy (still is), going to talk to his sick dad about their day, I thought that was very sweet.

At the end, the "time travel" didn't really felt like that to me but rather a very immersive memories.

The evolutions sequence were beyond amazing so, nothing to say really xD just thankful that XV-mon and Stingmon were actually "drawn" rather than staying as CG and even so, the CGs were very neat.

I was quite worried about the dub but it seems the dialogues were done properly, at least taking in consideration what I remembered from the PVs. Thankfully we got Hikari, Iori and Ken having their same VA from Adventure along with the Digis; Daisuke and Takeru had their same VA from Lastevo and Miyako got a whole new voice but they did decent, they actually got quite well how the 02 gang is.

And Daisuke, oh my boi being the man I trust to ruin it with the police xD "why didn't you stopped me?!", I love you uwu and how he was the only one to tell Rui right to his face what he had to do.

The battle sequence was nice as well, I was worried for a moment to be honest and loved that scene where Miyako "ships" Daisuke and Ken-chan uwu

I knew we had to go in a big fight but I genuinely felt bad that the only solution was to defeat Ukkomon. I actually stayed until the post credits scene and I was happy to see Rui smile ;w;

So, in my humble opinion, it's a very good movie to add to the Digi Lore, it's very enjoyable and was what I needed for 02.

I saw people say that the movie doesn't solve the losing partners issue presented in Lastevo but I think that's not the case: Ukkomon gave the chosen children the Digivice via Homeostasis; considering that this "superior being" is indeed Homeostasis, this giving the partnership a tangible item to tie Digimons with Humans but, is that all?

I personally think that Takeru being anxious over losing their partners was justified after all, Yamato lose Gabumon so I understand why he would hesitate to kill Ukkomon; at the end, the Digivice was just that, a tangible bond but, they don't really need it, do they? Just like how in Adventure, Taichi and co. didn't needed the crests to evolve because their hearts were the actual crests.

The Digivice ties Digimon and Humans, yes but even without it, the bond is there so how does this solves the partners loss? As long as they have a bond, they will come back I mean, Ukkomon is coming back and Rui's Digivice is no more plus even after losing their D3s, Daisuke and co. still had their partners, right? This just shows that Digimon Survive was right in not giving their protagonist digivices: KIZUNA. We don't need the bond to be tangible, right?

Also, I almost screamed when Wallace was on screen with Terriermon and Lopmon ;w; it was nice to see Chichos too xD How did your dubs named her anyway? Here in Mexico it was changed to "Guadalupe"; Chichos sounds like "chichis" and that's a way to say "boobs".

Anyway, because I want more cards, I'll go to watch it again on Sunday because it's the only day I have free ;w; hope they don't run out of them, I want all my kids OTL

#02beginning spoilers #02beginning #digimon adventure 02 the beginning spoilers #just a txt #txt from the megane madao #png orders #spoilers

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digitalgate02 · 1 year

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Why Ni does not use her old fanmade crests as "Advverse crests" anymore

One of the things I learned a few years ago about Adventure lore and worldbuilding was the fact it does not have anything "exclusive" to a certain group of characters.

Like, sure, it's fun to imagine fanmade crests for ourselves and the characters we love or make. It's really fun.

But past convo with Shiha made me realize why I dropped my own headcanons and fanmade stuff for Advverse characters (canon & OC) when it comes to Advverse after a rewatch of ep 37:

Certain traits we pick just are something similar or even the same thing as either of the canon crests.

(Also, i'll just recommend checking this meta about the crests in the kids portrayal because it's good and explain the crests themselves and their role in the universe very well.)

Anyway, let's continue.

I've seen people complaining about how Daisuke, Miyako and Iori never had their own crests, that they were just "carbon copies of the previous cast" and even reading things like "they gave *girl* crests to Miyako" -- and those kind of things bugged me... I used to think the former was "unfair" as well, but now? I think i got what Qinglongmon infodump episode meant.

When talking about the crests, Qinglongmon mentions the first three Dai-Miya-Iori got via Digimentals,

Takeru and Hikari's crests are also explained in this whole convo too -- They're special:

Since Light = the concept of Life itself, i understand why Light and Hope are important.

The thing is -- Adv & 02 never made the crests "exclusive" or "character bound" -- so, basically every character in the Advverse, fanmade or canon, can have either of those crests. Light and Hope might also be not totally exclusive, but more like something more "rare" to find in the wild.

Like i said before, fanmade crests are cool! Having your unique and special trait would be cool! But after realizing what this scene meant, why the staff never intended to make Courage-Friendship-Love-Knowledge-Sincerity-Reliability-Hope-Light-and-Kindness some kind of exclusivity to those characters, i decided to embrace this concept and headcanon stuff with those crests instead.

This opens a ton of possibilities for ONE 02 element -- The Digimentals. As you can see, there's one 02 material (quite crack-ish) where the kids switch their Digimentals and they all can activate them. And on a more peak Digimon comedy, we have the older six having fun with them as well -- even if those mons were not-supposed-to-be-taken-seriously.

My theory for them is they are also not character bound, or exclusive to the 02 group -- they can work with any person as long they're compatible with the digimon (like, incompatibility would result in a bizarre digimon form, or hostile/vile digimon) instead.

So... this is my explanation as to why i don't use fanmade crests for any Advverse character (or my OCs) anymore. My old work probably still use them, yeah, but on the actual days i just don't use them anymore.

#just ni rambling things for no reason #ni's digiheadcanons #ni's digitheories

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blackpearlblast · 9 months

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ok i think these would be my digimental reassignments based on where i'm at right now (not finished yet)

daisuke: courage, love

miyako: friendship, reliability

iori: knowledge, purity

and then hikari and takeru's match their crests so theirs stay the same

#these just honestly best describe how i view their characters #you could definitely make arguments for others but this is what feels right to me

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variouscolors · 1 year

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[Database - Mobile]

[updated: May/8/2024]

[Long post ahead]

[Evolution lines - check this post]

Gennai: he/him Digitamamon: They/them; he/him Arukenimon: she/her Natchan: she/her

[Adv:] Neemon: he/him

[OC] Blu/Rhodo: he/him; they/them

Bokomon: he/him Neemon: he/him

Ikuto: 14yo | Masc (he/him; they/them) | Mar/25 (AR) | Demi Falcomon (he/him; they/them)

Hiro: 14yo | Masc (he/him) | May/14 (TA) | AroAce Gammamon (he/him)

[GG] Piemon: he/him [GG] Kuzuhamon: she/her

Rina: 17yo | Fem (she/her) | ??? | ??? V.V. [VeeVee] (he/him)

[CSHM] Magnamon: he/him

#ooc notes; mission details

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koumi-blog · 2 years

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The Fallen Guardian

by Smol_tactician

This is the actual AU, well part of it Its modernized so this first part starts in 2018

Theres some weird dreams, stuff that seems like magic, secret digital world stuff, resurrections. Tai gets to set shit on fire for a bit. In all seriousness, after some weird things start happening on the map of the digitalword the gang goes to check it out, find out about some stuff that has to do with crest.

Words: 3155, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English

Series: Part 4 of Digimon AU stuffs

Fandoms: Digimon Adventure, Digimon Adventure Zero Two | Digimon Adventure 02

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Categories: F/M, Gen, M/M

Relationships: Ishida Yamato | Matt Ishida/Yagami Taichi | Tai Kamiya, Izumi Koushirou | Izzy Izumi/Tachikawa Mimi, Ichijouji Ken/Inoue Miyako | Yolei Inoue

Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon, Trans Male Character, Gay Character, Bisexual Character, Asexual Character, Pansexual Character, Nonbinary Character, Demisexual Character, Aromantic Character, gender discovery, Coming Out, AFAB characters, Fem Davis, characters with adhd, Character with dyslexic, Oh boy school life, magic go brrr???, Slow burn for SOME relationships, typos go brrrr, bits of transphobia and homophobia, They're all trying their best, Additional Tags to Be Added

from AO3 works tagged 'Izumi Koushirou | Izzy Izumi/Tachikawa Mimi' https://archiveofourown.org/works/39803151

#fanfic #ao3feed-koumi #ao3feed-koumimi #ao3feed-mishiro #ao3feed-mishirou #koumi #koumimi #mishiro

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seventeenlovesthree · 7 months

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@digimon02countdown Day 1 - Digimentals/Digi-Eggs

As intriguing as it would have been to give each of the the new Chosen Children an individual Crest, there is still something very romantic about the "passing the torch" angle that goes on between "predecessors" and "heirs". Because at first glance, you would think that Daisuke, Miyako and Iori simply got these basic characteristics of "courage", "love" and "knowledge" slapped on them, so we could watch their developments play out the exact same way as it was for Taichi, Sora and Koushirou - and yes, they DO share these traits with one another. It's basically the reason why they get "awakened" in the first place; however, they still end up having very different meanings for all of them.

Taichi's main lesson was to learn not to confuse being brave with being reckless and to find the right balance in his decision-making - and he recognizes the potential in Daisuke, who is pretty brash and definitely just as willing to jump to save the ones he cares about. But Daisuke's lesson in regards to courage is more about being honest with himself and what he really wants and prioritizes, so he can be genuine and letting his natural kindness inspire others to be brave as well.

Sora's main lesson was to realize that she can, indeed, choose to love and accept love without having to feel obliged to do so - and despite her knowing that she has to prioritize, she reassures Miyako in making the right choices as well, following her heart in the process. And that is exactly what Miyako has to and will face in the end. That love can also mean to do things we don't like, things we are not comfortable with, things that scare us, for the sake of doing better. To protect and save others and taking care of ourselves as well.

Koushirou's main lesson was to accept himself and his curious nature the way he is without second-guessing his whereabouts, thus becoming a person who is keen on sharing his gathered knowledge - which is why he is very enthusiastic to show his support to Iori, helping him to answer all questions he has and learn to rely on the friends that they make along the way. Iori's own curiosity and knowledge-gathering enhance through the course of interacting with others - learning that people have different shades of morality and intentions, that they can indeed change and that forgiveness is an important virtue to apply reasonably.

They may be varying interpretations of their initial traits - but in the end, the similarities yet differences are probably what made the "elders" instinctively trust in them so thoroughly. They see them - and they recognize the potential they all have to achieve something great.

#digimon02countdown #digimon adventure 02 #digimon #daisuke motomiya #miyako inoue #iori hida #taichi yagami #sora takenouchi #koushirou izumi #meta #my two cents #koushiro izumi #davis motomiya #yolei inoue #cody hida #tai kamiya #izzy izumi #my edit

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agumonger · 10 months

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woe, more unprompted digimon 02 merch opinions be upon ye (they're positive opinions):

my color-coded nerdy ass when iori is associated with yellow-orange and takeru is yellow: 😌😌😌😌😌

when ken is emerald green: 😌😌😌😌😌

idk i just love how you can place all 12 main adv02 kids on a tertiary color wheel... kind of.

red=sora, orange=taichi, orange-yellow=iori, yellow=tk, lime green=mimi, emerald green=ken, cyan=daisuke, blue=yamato, purple=koushirou, pink=hikari, cherry red=miyako

it gives my brain the happy chemical like mmmm yes yummy colors..... every crest color is respected, every d-3 color is kept the same except for takeru who already had a crest and ken whose d-3 was tainted by darkness anyway, it just feels right... ken is more than just the darkness that hurt him :'( plus we deserve more emerald green themed characters yyyes,

#brainrot mode #yummy colors mmmmmm

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shihalyfie · 2 years

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I think it's funny you posted the meta on character colors and how Takeru was being associated with the color orange, and since then we've had the Summer Festival art, the first couple minutes of "The Beginning", and the Kizuna phone cases from Partners, which now associate him back to green.

I repeat: (ノ°Д°）ノ︵ ┻━┻

The phone cases are understandable since they're supposed to be based off the colors of the devices they're linked to, so since Takeru's D-3 is green it makes perfect sense for his phone case to be green as well. It's just funny that the one time there was an outlier, it was in the movie itself, but also, said movie makes a mistake with Daisuke's phone case despite the fact the reference sheets had explicit instructions to use a different design whenever two Crests were involved. (Look carefully at the shot and you'll see that it uses the triangle design Taichi has instead of the X design it's supposed to.)

Which is funny because this is the only time one of the phones that should have this pattern appears in the movie, and they still messed it up. Kizuna is a very thorough and accurate-to-detail movie in most other aspects, but as far as this one goes, seriously, they had one job! So this is one of the few times I'd defer to the merch and liner notes even if they contradict the animation footage itself, because the merch has been consistent with Daisuke/Miyako/Iori having the correct back patterns and Takeru having a green case. Or maybe Takeru has two phone cases. That's not out of character, I suppose.

But yeah, the new GraffArt collab also goes with D-3 colors, with Ken being a bit purple because of the difficulty of working with pure grey (basically the same cheat method as Kouichi). This hasn't been in official merch as much as you'd think, but I see it a lot in fanwork, so it has precedent. The partner coloring is probably the most "consistent" in that it applies the same rule to all six kids with no outliers, but the D-3 coloring here is probably the second "neatest" color matchup that's commonly used, and it has the benefit of feeling closer to the original series since the "partner" coloring was never used back then.

But still.

(ノ°Д°）ノ︵ ┻━┻

#xm0c #shiha's ask box #digimon adventure last evolution kizuna

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ladyofthecastleproject · 2 years

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12th Anniversary!! (it was on Saturday)

So, if you ever read this series... Original version (because you either used MTL on it, or can speak/understand BR-PT)

Let's talk about some changes!!

The names: Some names were originally in JP and taken ideas from ex-friends and my original co-writer. The new version, i had a help from a beta reader/editor to rename most of the other world's counterparts of the kids. EXCEPT Daisuke's which kept being "Lance", but his nickname became "Dai". Ah, and Ken's, of course.

I'll list every name from the original version and its change out of curiosity:

Helios (Taichi's counterpart) → Saigo

Amis Lupe (Yamato's) → Okami

Sienna (Sora's) → Yaku

Fiorella (Mimi's) → Ai

Diomedes (Koushiro's) → Nesshin

Jason (Jou's) → Omoni

Lance "Dai" Dusktella (Daisuke's) → Lance "Kiseki" Kuroiboshi (i wrote it wrongly in the fic)

Flannery (Miyako's) → Miya/MiyaShurimon (not-so-creative)

Zuzen (Iori's) → IoriArmadimon (again, not creative)

Boniface (Takeru's) → Unmei

Lia → Yami

※ Warlock was the only name i kept unchanged. Just... changed his surname for its actual reference. "Who" is a pun on Ken's first name, which has a similar pronunciation of "Quem" in Portuguese. Hence the joke on Ken's counterpart name.

I don't remember much of the ideas of each name (because i can't access to those ol' convos alas), except for Lia's being the opposite of Hikari (lol) and Lance's nickname being a reference to the Digimental/Crest of Miracles (which was a key point in it)

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OCs made specifically for this saga: When i was writing it, i not only mixed things i liked (Vocaloid songs, BRS and a Sonic fancomic) -- i also had the help of a co-writer friend to adapt other songs from the Daughter of Evil's story. Keep in mind the new version tried to be a bit divergent from it, while the original was... uh... me and frienddo creating an AU based on it. Y'know, like how we all do.

Such characters were one mine and one of said co-writer. Co-writer's OC was playing Haku's role & song, but with a different finale?

Meanwhile my OC... was playing a very original role! She was tied to Lance's story as some friend he made and later has befriended Lia.

Since I had lost contact with my co-writer to ask for permission for the use of their OC, I decided to cut them out. Said OCs were the counterparts of our actual OCs who would be later introduced in Hinode saga. Again, i cut them & ChibiBunnymon off in the Hinode drabbles version.

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Some exclusive character changes: The original fic, the very first one, had a white Wormmon and a Puroromon in the cast of characters following Daisuke & V-mon through the labyrinth. They were not related fo Flannery and Dragon Who at all. They were legit digimon kidnapped and forced to recover the "Magic object" at the end of the labyrinth.

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Some details changed: Originally Warlock was married to Lia, and they weren't going well since Lance's death. Also, since i wrote all of those ages before Kizuna (2010, what a coincidence!), i wasn't using the epilogue versions of the characters and yes... Their 02 (Kids) counterparts. Which is weird who in the world would let two kids marry each other! Well, this was because i was writing this to be more Daisuke seeing his friends in those peeps -- Kinda like what happens to Sonic in the games "Secret Rings" and "Black Knight". Actually SatBK was very very much the core of my inspiration for it 😅 The new version, also written before Kizuna (2013!!), was trying to go by the idea of older versions of them. Also Lia and Lance were no longer twins and she became younger than Lance & Warlock.

Also, at the end of the original arc 3, Daisuke finally meets Mimi's counterpart as the one who offers him a chance of choosing who he would like to be -- himself, or go back to the other world as Lance. This part was totally retconned in the new one as Daisuke does not die in the final battle and it is revealed Fiorella has reborn in the same world as Daisuke's, as Mimi. Said part was based on the mentioned Sonic fancomic, which was one of my favorite scenes in a chapter. In which Sonic gets two options to choose, and he makes his choice from there.

Said scene would later get a replay as some shocking reveal in Hinode, that would be the fact Daisuke-Lance actually chose to return to the other world, and then he would die again by fighting the evil which was consuming his world. This would then send him to another world as Daisuke, and then be involved with the said villains all again to put all the Chosen Children in this fight to save the worlds... Then, resulting in the birth of Dai-Lightnimon Royal Mode. Of course i never finished the OG Hinode and this is all scrapped at this point.

Those are just a few things i remember haha, hope you enjoyed the post!!

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thisgirliscatastrophic · 7 months

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Fanon Evolution Lines and Crests for 02 Kids

Daisuke

Crest; Miracles

Evolution Lines for V-mon (Following the XV-mon line)

Chicomon -> Chibimon -> V-mon -> XV-mon -> Wingdramon -> Slayerdramon

From XV-mon -> Aero V-dramon (or Wingdramon) -> Ulforce V-dramon

Miyako

Crest; Passion

Evolution Lines for Hawkmon

Pururumon -> Poromon -> Hawkmon -> Aquilamon -> Toropiamon -> Amphimon

Iori

Crest; Judgment

Evolution Lines for Armadimon

Tsubumon -> Upamon -> Armadimon -> Ankylomon -> Tricermon -> Pharaohmon

Ken

Evolution Lines for Wormmon

Leafmon -> Minomon -> Wormmon -> Stingmon -> Jewelbeemon -> Bloom Lordmon

#digimon adventure #digimon adventure 02 #daisuke motomiya #motomiya daisuke #inoue miyako #miyako inoue #hida iori #iori hida #i used evolution lines because i am thinking about exploring the concept of the digimon evolving from the armored forms #(like one level from the armored form)

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orifumioshi · 7 months

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Now that all my scheduled posts of my 02beginning countdown are well... posted, I can finally speak about a delusional silly but fun to think AU. This post is scheduled too tbh because I'm typing as I'm finishing scheduling my final piece with Ukkomon and Rui (ง ื▿ ื)ว but, let's pretend this is being posted in real time~

Ok so, my theme for the countdown was trying to do the 02 gang + Rui in the Digimon Survive character art coloring style because I'm still obsessed with it and hyped over the movie, that's when I thought, what if the 02 gang were to be in the same situation as the Survive gang? Come with me and let's explore this AU (ง ื▿ ื)ว

Beware of Digimon Survive Spoilers, I won't touch 02beginning spoilers (because I also don't know XD) and... long post so, gonna put this in read more~

Let's set the rules:

Daisuke and co. will have no idea what "Digimons" or "Kemonogami" are until they are in "the other world".

So, their first contact with their partners will be once they are in the other world.

No digivice like the Survive gang, just their bonds and souls uwu this means, no crest either and of course, no digimentals (BUT, for fun let's pretend that they can evolve in their digimental evos as alternative evoline)

So, not natural evolution will def happen, like how we have different options in Survive.

Daisuke will be friends (at the beginning) only with Hikari and Takeru for being in the same class; Miyako and Iori will be friends for living in the same departments and know Takeru's face for the very same reason. Ken will be the 'outsider' who doesn't know anyone BUT he's not in his Kaiser persona.

Let's include Wallace and Rui too just to have more 'cast' (ง ื▿ ื)ว but sorry, the international chosen would be a lot of people so, let's stick with these 8.

Aaand, to have "The professor", let me add Oikawa as the good person he was before dying in the 02 finale.

But worry not that everyone will be friends as they spend time in the camp and the other world.

Let's also put everyone in the "camp" to stick with the Survive script except for Rui.

They all get to keep their personalities so, no 'adaptations' to fit the Survive cast.

Jogress can happen because that was missing in Survive (ง ื▿ ื)ว (I know Omegamon is there but c'mon, we needed more xD)

Of course, same partners Digimons, even Wallace can keep both Terriermon and Lopmon.

Also, same enemies as Survive, sorry but we can't include Mummymon (⁠╯⁠︵⁠╰⁠,⁠)

People will die, sorry but we are going for the chaotic routes because, where is the fun in this if we know they all get out alive xD

I guess that's pretty much all. Now onto the story! Or at least, the "key events".

Rui and Ukkomon are the "tragic" duo, trapped in the other world like Miyuki and Renamon. Maybe even Ukkomon can disguise as human ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Probably we will be putting Rui as a "priest" that the Master wants to consume.

We can consider that Oikawa indeed went to the other side before when he was a kid, but I'm afraid of giving him a connection with Rui or let Rui have the "song" to connect worlds so, let's just assume Oikawa got lucky and found a gate to come back before the Master consumes him but due the traumatic events, he won't be able to remember Pipimon or the whole experience.

I would love to say that Iori's dad, Hiroki was part of the "spirited away" kids with Oikawa and ultimately died at hands of the Kenzoku and the Master but... It's impossible for a kid to well, have kids and having him dead in the other world won't work if we want Iori to exist so instead, let's pretend they become friends later in their lives until Hiroki died like in canon 02.

The camp setting will be mostly all the kids in the camp so, no 'Miu' role to lead them to the sanctuary.

Wallace will be the "chaotic" one to suggest find another path and Miyako will def second that out of curiosity. Takeru will follow them because he's interested in the "nature" of the path and well, Hikari and Iori will follow because what else can they do if they tried to stop them but they didn't listen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and Daisuke, he will agree with Hikari to be honest xD also I feel like Ken would be the "Shuuji" in this specific case, due his "smart brains" and being an honor student, the teachers trust him to be the "chaperone" so he has to go look for the "troublemakers" xD; let's say that Daisuke, Hikari and Iori took a second to think before following the others and that's when Ken finds them; just to have 2 teams.

The Gotsumon event might be pretty much the same: looking for each other, Gotsumon punching kids, the sanctuary getting destroyed, etc etc...

And yes, Oikawa will be researching the Kemonogami just like the professor so, he will pretty much be doing the same as Akiharu during the whole experience xD.

In canon Survive, we (as the protagonist) can only witness the first encounter with a partner Kemonogami through the eyes of Takuma, then let's say that Daisuke is the "player" (us) and we can only witness this encounter; I think he will be pretty chill with Chibimon despite getting beaten up by Gotsumon a few minutes ago and won't hesitate to help the little guy when Gotsumon attacks again and of course, V-mon saves the day~

The rest would pretty much be the same (events wise) so we just need to figure out the order of "found kids".

The group who will arrive at the school first would be Daisuke, Takeru, Miyako and Wallace, who will find Rui and Ukkomon (disguised?) living there and the ones to be kidnapped by Dokugumon will be Miyako and Wallace (because in my second play I got Aoi and Minoru trapped in the webs xD and idk what triggers Minoru getting trapped too).

Hikari, Ken, Iori and Oikawa will be the ones being chased by Fangmon, just to later get separated. We'll find only Ken and Oikawa at the dam who the later gets thrown to be considered dead like the professor.

Hikari and Iori will encounter Arukenimon in the forest (like Miu and Kaito), trusting her completely until we found them; Daisuke, Ken and Miyako are the ones who suspect of her but I can picture Miyako giving in trusting her at the end, leaving us with Daisuke and Ken to save the rest from Arukenimon.

The first one to die will be Ken, for not opening his heart to Wormmon and thinking he's a "useless worm" and definitely, he saw Osamu in the fog.

I don't really have an extra kid to be the "queen" of the little guys in the amusement park so, let's say they do want to investigate other places in order to find a way to go back to our world. Here an evolved Pipimon will be presented as [insert your fav possible Adult evo for Pipimon xD], who just as Garurumon, despites the Kemonogami with Human partners.

The second to die will be Takeru, for succumbing to the "darkness" Arukenimon pushed him to and let Patamon evolve into NeoDevimon/DoneDevimon, idk... Some Digi that can "eat" him (ง ื▿ ื)ว and Oikawa comes back~

The "Minoru" event will be in charge of Iori, for seeing how the Kemonogami can kill them whenever they want and with his "logical" thinking, he decided they are safer without the Kemonogami until Oikawa explains the whole "reflection of emotions" and "shared souls".

I don't want to touch Rui and Ukkomon much in this, mostly because I don't think Ukkomon will be as savage as Renamon but, we can still let Arukenimon to kidnap Rui.

In the Piemon fight; Daisuke, V-mon and Rui will go back to the human world and we let them bond just like how Takuma bonds with Miyuki.

Of course, Rui will be the one to lead the Kenzokus as the Master host and I... honestly don't know how to let Ukkomon handle this OTL

The next one to die (wrath route?) will be Hikari, for trying to save baby digis from the amusement park (who were actually Kenzokus), leading Miyako into the "Aoi villain arc" so, she will ultimately fuse with Hawkmon once Piemon almost kills them.

The alternative next death (harmony?) won't be human but instead, Wallace will lose Terriermon while trying to save the same babies and we won't get their Digitama back (for drama xD), leading Wallace to let Lopmon run rampage as Cherubimon; maybe we can pretend this dark evolution will be result of Wendimon eating the dying Piemon? Yeah, let's pretend that happens xD.

Well, that's the most I can think of right now on the spot. I would LOVE to explore the alternative evolution lines and as you can see, we can't get Jogress in our first play so, the "truthful" route would be the only way to get all the jogress. (In retrospective, I think only Silphymon can be obtained in the harmony route XDD)

Maybe someday with a little bit more of time I can think on the evolution lines, individualy and with jogress ooooor~ if you reached this part and got inspired by this, I would love to hear your opinions and "own" interpretations, also what kind of evil angsty Digimon might Miyako and Hawkmon evolve into?

I'll leave the rest for other day, hope you enjoyed this "quick" AU and hope we all can watch 02beginning in our closest cinema once it is available in your country ;w;

#digimon #txt from the megane madao #02beginning #digimon survive #headcanons #digi headcanons

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