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oh yes yes, that sounds perfect, i shall look for various buckets for all the tears you managed to gather :) /j
writers are not content churning bots and all readers need to keep that in mind! i’m sending all my loves to all the lovely writers like you in this app <3 <3 <3
what can i say, when i want something to be done i go all the way *shrugs* /lh /hj
ohhh your take on diluc is very interesting! i suppose based on his history, he does seem like the type to do that. mmm yeah he’s definitely not going to deal well with the aftermath of reader’s death. i can see him overworking himself and avoiding resting like a plague because resting means his brain will automatically think back to reader, and he can’t spiral down again. but either way, it won’t do well for his health ;(((
yesyes i love the inner turmoils in all those three scenarios for sure!!
xiao’s line “for once, Alatus doesn't think he can bear it any longer.” makes me imagine a continuation scene where he finally succumbs to his karmic debts right then and there... ;w;
kazuha’s line “Kazuha's heart is only one, but death seems to favor him so much that it keeps taking pieces of his soul little by little.” honestly broke a piece of my heart. my poor bby. he deserves so many hugs.
zhongli’s line "Even if it hurts." is just. sldkjflskjdf. i have no words, bc of course he endures, that’s just so him.
and lastly, yes - itto going through a series of emotions are so in character, cause i can totally see him not knowing what to do in the situation. from denial to anxious to desperate to anger and more denials *chefs kiss*
and the last lines for everyone’s part is just sldkfjsldf it’s like a jab to the chest (but a good kind of jab…. if that makes sense LOL)
speaking of fresh air, perhaps i should have traded one of the silent grievers for albedo. hmmm. it’s an interesting thought - how would albedo handle sadness and lost? ... ehe~ alrighty, i think i got one character i will want to put in the request for next time >:))
ps. oh gosh this got so long i'm so sorry sldfkjsldf please don't feel burdened to reply or anything i think i'm just rambling by this point aaa
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no worries, anon~ why should you apologize for rambling when i, too, am a chronic rambler myself??? (/lh) let's nerd out together !! 🤧
i feel like when someone sends the same request to several writers, it's to see which writer will get their request out the fastest, perhaps??? and that thought is messed up because writers and content creators are not robots :( thank you, anon, i'm always getting crushed by your love !! <3 (/g)
diluc our beloved... he has already done this once when his father passed and now that his lover is gone, he's resorted to the same pattern again? old habits die hard, they really do. hoyoverse and their love for making characters experience loss (/j)
AND OML. you specifically picked out your favorite part?!?! help, i have reached the peak of my bucket list as a writer??? i'm flopping on the ground like a fish fjwkfkkesd (/pos)
and yes, there's a reason the last lines are italicized~ they were supposed to be like an epiphanic jab somewhat? i have a weird habit of making the last lines hit the most like i just had to. 🤌
ooo, albedo? ah, yes, yet another silent griever who isolates himself from the rest of the world 👀 albedo is well-aware of the mortality within you, the fragility of your body, the impending doom that can claim you at any second if it so wishes, he knows that. albedo has prepared for it the moment he allowed himself to fall for you — or, that's what he thought.
after you're gone, his lab in dragonspine that used to be his second home now becomes his only home. people start to wonder, does the chief alchemist not bother at all about the death of his lover? he rarely ever comes down to mondstadt these days, almost never. but here in his lab is where albedo buries himself in memories of you, knowing that you were once here, bringing him cups of coffee and accompanying him during the cold nights — and he'd rather stay here than anywhere else.
when i open requests in the future, it looks like it's guaranteed i'd see an angsty request from you >:) and with our resident chief alchemist too gasps
#me 🤝 you = chronic ramblers and we should be proud (/lh)#i love listening to your rambles! hehe i get immersed in them >:)#ask box! 📬#visitor: dearest 💠 anon!
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A quiet day came rarely to Anon. Most of the time he was so busy he barely had time to talk to his guests, so today was rather a gift to him. Only half of the tables were filled, and it didn't look like it would be filling much today.
Which led him to catch up with his regulars, fill them in on what has gone on in his life and find out how they are doing. He was feeling rather content that day. So it was a rather curious suprise to him, what the next guest would bring.
A short-ist mech with a rounded frametype walked in, optics scanning the place with a determined gaze. Anon had his back turned to the newcomer, bidding his previous guest goodbye before turning around to welcome his next guest with a warm smile on his screen.
"Good Day Sir! Please, take a se-"
"Oh my Stars! It really is you!" The mech whooped excitedly, giving a small hop before bounding towards Anon, faceplates holding the brightest smile he'd seen on a stranger. The other guests shortly looked at them, but faced their meals quite quickly again.
"I didn't think my friend were telling the truth but you really are here! Granted a rather odd place, but I'm so happy to see you in person! I've been a fan of yours for eons, Dread!"
For the first half, he'd been truly flattered at the sheer excitement this bot had to have met him, behind his mask however his smile faltered by a margin. Some of that information didn't make sense... and his name wasn't Dread.
"Ah, well.. I'm glad! But I think you've got the wrong mech here. My name is Anon, not Dread." Anon chuckled sheepishly, scratching the back of his helm. Primus this was extremely awkward.
The stranger blinked suprised, but shook his helm. "No no, that can't be. I'm absoloutly positive it's you! I guess it would make sense to change your name up, though I'm not sure why you'd do that.. but anyway! Can I have your autograph?!" He finally came to the point, holding out a datapad to Anon.
"Ah... sure thing!" Anon smiled brightly on the screen, filling the Bot's request and giving his signatue on the Datapad.
"Thank you Dread! D-Uh.. I mean Anon! Was great meeting you, I gotta roll!" The mech rejoiced, holding the Datapad to his chest, plating on his shoulder ruffling excited. He hugged Anon, before turning and rushing out of the building.
What the frag just happened? Anon thought to himself confused, staring at the floor to let the rather uncomfortable feeling of being hugged abruptly wear off, before turning on the back of his pedes to enter the kitchen.
Odd. Very odd.
#(ic status)#chef bot anon lore#chef bot anon speaks#chef bot anon#((tfw when a fan simultaniously compliments and insults you))
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hey! so, i'm sure this is something that's been discussed, but i can't find any discourse on your blog. i'm a fic writer and NOTHING annoys me more than the "don't say anything negative" attitude toward fanfiction. if someone leaves a comment that says "i loved your fic but i'm curious as to why character didn't do [x] since it seems a little inconsistent..." or "loved it! just wanted to point out a couple small inaccuracies that most people won't notice but since i work in this field..." (1/?)
it shows me that the commentor was paying attention and thinking about my writing, and isn’t that the ENTIRE point of posting your writing online? i’ve run across quite a few writers who will criticise any criticism or less-than-effusive comments, and it just really, really annoys me. the main reason i think is bc i legitimately LOVE fanfiction—it’s my preferred thing to write/read over original fiction bc it allows me to focus on just exploring the characters since people are already(2/?)
familiar with them/the canon verse. it’s why i hate that it isn’t taken as seriously as original fic, and i really think this culture of “don’t engage unless you only have good things to say” is one of the reasons it just isn’t taken seriously. ofc, not saying that you should just point out all the flaws, but some polite, helpful concrit or probing questions in addition to praise?? makes me really happy tbh. idk maybe i just take it too seriously but (¾)
it REALLY bothers me, and so i wanted to read some debate on this matter from both sides — not just writers, not just readers. this my extremely long-winded way of asking: do you guys have any posts like this?? (4/4)
LLF response: Hi Anon! We do have some posts about commenting culture and a brief guide to supporting authors, as well as reblogs on a guide to reviews and an overview of fandom commenting. Assuming you’ve looked through those posts, the reason why you cannot find anything that addresses your specific concern (i.e. questions in comments bringing up inconsistencies or trying to understand why a character appears to be acting OOC) is probably because LLF has been primarily concerned with broad structural changes and feedback initiatives thus far and the topic you raise, while valid and important to feedback culture, is a bit too nuanced for the current focus of this blog.That being said, I think that your ask brings up some interesting assumptions and perceptions that are critical for fandom health and which I can give my personal opinion on under the jump.
Full disclaimer, the following is my (mod dragonling’s) personal opinion and interpretation of the ask.
1. i’m a fic writer and NOTHING annoys me more than the “don’t say anything negative” attitude toward fanfiction.
This to me is indicative of differing expectations for fandom. Let’s say that instead of fic writing, we’re all chefs (or people who make food) here. We each make a dish and now we want to share it with the world. Do you (A) take it to your friend’s house where they are holding a potluck celebration; (B) set up a stall at the state fair; or © enter it into a cooking/baking competition ala Chopped where 5 star judges and food critics will sample your food? Depending on where you take you food, you would expect very different reactions.
Generally speaking, you would probably want your friends at the potluck to thank you for bringing something and compliment you for how delicious your dish is. If you were still fine tuning your recipe, you could let them know and maybe they would be able to say one or two things they liked or didn’t like about it which you would file away for the evening, to be looked at for the next time you made something.
However, if you were at a state fair, even getting your dish looked at by the crowds of people milling around would be an achievement. If someone bought some of your food, that would be fantastic! If they bought it, took a bite, and then told you how tasty it was, even better! Those people that bought your food, went away, and then came back to tell you how much they enjoyed it or came back to buy some more and brought all their friends with them are heaven sent angels. You probably wouldn’t expect anyone to say anything negative about your food because even if you were still fine tuning the recipe, a state fair is neither the time or place where any sort of meaningful culinary discussion can really take place on a consistent basis.
The situation would be different if you were at a cooking competition. There, you would expect these food experts to pick apart your food. Maybe not steamroll and chew you out ala Gordon Ramsey, but even then if that’s what you were expecting and the kind of feedback you respond best to, then sign up for a competition he is judging at. Perhaps you don’t want to just be yelled at, but would actually like to be coached, then maybe enter a competition with more of a mentoring element versus cutthroat competition.
This all really boils down to knowing who your audience is and your expectations for them. I would say that posting to ao3 is closest to the state fair, and is why the “don’t say anything negative” attitude is perfectly acceptable and even encouraged. The fact that this annoys you indicates that there is some disconnect between what you really want and where you’re going in order to get it. I think that we can all agree that going to the state fair and expecting Gordon Ramsey to show up and tell you why your dish sucks is just…not going to happen. Even more, it’s something that shouldn’t happen. What if you were at the state fair to raise money for charity? No well meaning person is going to tell you that your food sucks and that you should do better and if they do, they don’t mean you well.
So, rather than get hung up on the “don’t say anything negative” attitude in fandom (which, I may add, is there and has been cultivated for a reason), take another look at your audience and your expectations. If you want criticism that is helpful and of good quality, go to an editor or join a writing group. If you want to give criticism, find someone to beta for where you can cultivate a relationship that is mutually beneficial. Don’t be a Gordon Ramsey walking around at the charity fair of home baked goods giving tips to the local families trying to raise funds to repair their schools. Be conscious of the fact that people write for different reasons, and that while some may be okay with great advice being shouted at them, for others, it is a nightmare. Be kind and don’t show up at the wrong party.
2. “i loved your fic but i’m curious as to why character didn’t do [x] since it seems a little inconsistent…” or “loved it! just wanted to point out a couple small inaccuracies that most people won’t notice but since i work in this field…”
I understand where you’re coming from, Anon, and the two examples you mentioned evoke an important point of why it is so difficult to give criticism online. Your questions attempt to illustrate how one might leave a comment that shows that the reader was paying attention and thinking about your writing, and from your ask, I can only assume that you would be thrilled to personally receive either of those comments. To assume that others would be similarly thrilled, however, is fallacious and a dangerous assumption. What works for you, may be hurtful to others. You pointing out “a couple [of] small inaccuracies” may be you being genuinely helpful, but to the author, it may come off as a reader assuming that they didn’t do their research, a reader being a know-it-all, or a reader missing the forest for the trees, especially if this is your one and only comment in a long multi-chaptered work.
Of course, things get even more nuanced when we consider context. Your comment about inaccuracies may be the best thing ever if the author specifically asked for guidance on this matter, or if you have a long standing relationship with this author and somehow commenting in ao3 is the way you beta for each other, or maybe this small inaccuracy is actually a big inaccuracy and you’re just trying to be super tactful about it… I could go on an on and on about it, but how you say things is often just as important as what you say, and in writing, where we do not have the benefit of verbal and visual cues, expressing what you mean becomes even more complicated.
Which is another reason why “don’t say anything negative” is the default. It’s harder to ruin someone’s day with only positive statements, especially when you don’t have the time or platform to really explain yourself and have a meaningful conversation with the author. This Anon’s view on concrit is worth pondering. If you don’t understand or agree with this sentiment, then the conversation we should be having is not “why doesn’t anyone leave concrit” but rather “what is concrit?”
3. i’ve run across quite a few writers who will criticise any criticism or less-than-effusive comments, and it just really, really annoys me.
Going back to expectations and audiences; remember which party you’re going to. Also, what may seem like just a less-than-effusive comment to you, an outsider who stumbled upon this one comment thread, may actually be a long antagonistic war of words between author and commenter spanning many years, fandoms, and fics. I don’t know. It could happen. Maybe you just have a higher tolerance of trolls and criticism than the rest of us.
It’s certainly happened to me and Rose here on the LLF blog. Either we read the same ask differently or just have different reactions and ways of responding to things that tick us off. Even if we have a shared goal and have known each other for awhile, we’re both different people. It’s not reasonable for me to try to change Rose’s responses to match my own exactly. Just because you care about fanfiction so much doesn’t mean that everyone else does or should as well. If this is something that really truly annoys you and you are trying to see both sides of this issue, I think that you’re on the right track and want to encourage you to keep learning and thinking about it.
4. it isn’t taken as seriously as original fic, i really think this culture of “don’t engage unless you only have good things to say” is one of the reasons it just isn’t taken seriously.
I am not a literary expert, and cannot really opine on how fanfiction is viewed by traditional literature or whether a fantasy AU is better/worse than a published fantasy book or how they relate to the writings of Homer. I also am not sure what you mean by fanfiction not being taken “as seriously as original fic.” Certainly you take it seriously. I take it seriously enough to spend my free time on it, and I take fandom seriously enough that I am spending time I could be using to write fanfiction to help run this blog. If you mean that publishing houses will not pay any attention to a fanfiction story, I would agree because why would they? Fanfiction is, by definition, derived from original fiction. Publishing houses are after new and original content because copyright is a real thing.
Even then, let’s look at Fifty Shades of Grey. It’s Twilight fan fiction. Is it taken more seriously than Twilight? Why or why not? How does it compare to Harry Potter, or Pride or Prejudice? Reading and writing are such personal experiences that I hesitate to say that one piece of writing is inherently better than the other. Hence, I do not think that fan fiction’s audience who “don’t engage unless you only have good things to say” is a problem. To me, that’s like saying “anime isn’t as good as non-anime cartoons because people who watch anime don’t speak English.”
5. not saying that you should just point out all the flaws, but some polite, helpful concrit or probing questions in addition to praise…
Yes, agreed; and if this is what the author has asked for, please go ahead! However, please also remember that not everyone knows how to ask probing questions, give helpful concrit, or even be polite. Sometimes, they aren’t even trying to be rude. It just comes off as such. Maybe the commenter is having a bad day and can’t word right. Maybe the author is having a bad day and can’t read anything without their own personal negative bias clouding their perceptions.
It’s one of the things that we are trying to address at LLF so that these barriers are lower. It’s one of the reasons why some things (native comment templates) just will not work for AO3, because tone is hard to convey, nevermind that your audience probably numbers in the millions, each with their own personal biases and understanding of language. We know that even with giving kudos, people mean different things. Think about how difficult it is to convey sarcasm in writing. AO3 already receives flack for their kudos message, which is the way it is because can you come up with something better that will not tick off anyone? Maybe people want to be polite, maybe they want to be helpful, maybe they just don’t know how. We’re trying to change that and trying to give people the tools to help them comment: LLF Comment Builder, LLF Comment Project, in-line commenting (these tools are mostly focused on how to give positive comments because from the feedback we’ve gotten, people have a hard enough time doing that as is.)
But hey, if you want something for concrit or how to ask probing questions, don’t wait for us. Look up a good guide and reblog it. Encourage your followers to ask you questions about your writing. Write your own guide to commenting. Go. Be the change you want to see.
6. do you guys have any posts like this
So, after all that, LLF may not be the blog for you if you are interested in hearing as many opinions as possible about this topic. However, I would highly encourage you to check out @ao3commentoftheday, which has already hosted quite a few asks about this:
sometimes-i-dont-comment-because-im-a
actually-i-have-a-question-about-commenting
do-writers-like-constructive-criticism-in-reviews
about-the-leaving-only-glowing-praise-comments
about-concrit-i-dont-explicitly-discourage-it
its-not-about-wanting-concrit-its-about-wanting
1-with-concrit-i-think-the-question-is-not
Don’t forget to check the notes on those threads!
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(Saw this from @ifthearmorfits and was curious about anon... and this is brilliant)
How did you die?
"Well okay then, guess I'm already long dead inside."
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If I get one more baguette thrown at me or placed in my house.
I will scream and return it to you.
#ic rambling#chef bot anon speaks#He won't give up Baguettes ofc#They make for great Bruschettas#chef bot anon
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do u like grapes
Eeeh.. No. Not really. A pain to eat and very sticky.
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Draw: What is Anon’s favorite animal?
#sorry it took so long!!!#wanted it to look nice and be funny#hope it achieves the chuckle I hoped it would ^^#chef bot anon speaks#chef bot anon#mun’s art#my art#chef bot anon fanart#introducing: Tuna Paws ~ Anon’s cat#Tuna sends his love
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I like my name.
But sometimes, I have trouble recognizing if others are adressing me or the gray faced fae that routinely make great and strange things.
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Happy New Year 2020!!
What a wonderful year this has been! I've met many good people, experienced a lot of good things. Here's to a new decade, full of joy, health, good timed and bad times, to new friends, to old friends, to family, to life!
Let's hope the next decade will be amazing.
Cheers!
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Mun here! Thank you all who have followed me throughout this year. It's been wild, fun, amazing, awful, everything lmao.
I'm so, so very thankful to have met some people who are now a very important part of my life. I am very thankful for those people, they've been amazing friends and I am oh so very glad to have the honor of meeting them and being their friend! And I'm very thankful for meeting my best friends, you guys are the best❤️
Million times thank you for being there for me through my toughest times! Cause not gonna lie 2019 was probably one of the worst years I've experienced mentally.
Thank you for sticking by me guys, I love you guys from the bottom of my heart💙❤️
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"Very sorry for being quiet, I..had a busy time at my place. Still is, but I've cut some days short to have a bit more time to myself..."
"So uh.."
"Hi, again?"
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"...Jayzus.. I'm glad I don't live on the LL. That sounds like a horrendous fight.."
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"Guys, I'll be fine. I know it's hard to understand, why I react that way."
He exvented. "It's a long and complicated story anyway... Really, I should be past it..."
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Every possible window he had in the restaurant was open, yet it was still awfully quiet inside. The birds outside weren’t loud enough to drown out the silence. Anon stood unsure near the centre of the place, looking around.
Granted he needed days off, he specifically chose Mondays to have one resting day as that was the day in the week with the least amount of customers. Tapping his servo against his thigh, he let out a series of clicks, thinking.
His gaze falls on his cybertronian guitar. Primus, he hadn’t played in ages.
Walking over, his steps hollow and loud, filling the room, he picks the instrument up, the movement making a few of the strings hum.
Setting it in place as he leaned against the table, he tried a few strums, a few chords, to get back the rhythm of playing. It did take him a good few failed attempts at getting the sound right, but eventually he got it.
Pausing, he looks up around the room, what would usually be filled with cheery chatter barren and empty.
Setting the instrument right, he reset his vocaliser, strumming the first few chords.
“I've been waiting for you. To come around and tell me the truth.”
Hm, he had to adjust something on the strings, something didn’t sound right.
On he goes.
“’Bout everything that you're going through. My girl you've got nothing to lose.”
Even with no crowd, he remembers a few months back, where he had gotten it out and played the cover for the song, people cheered.
And he finds himself smiling at the memory.
“Old nights and the Sunday mornings, On your way and out of the grey...”
“I've got time, I've got love. Got confidence, you'll, rise above. Give me a minute to hold my girl. Give me a minute to hold my girl..”I
#ic status#Basically all his doors are open so anyone can walk in lmao#open starter#chef bot anon speaks#George Ezra Hold my Girl#I hc Anon's voice to be that of George Ezra :P#I'm so gonna regret staying up to write this#fml#XD
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i just remembered: WHAT HAPPENED TO DAILY LOG??
Well I kinda forgot about + whenever I did write it, it mostly had stuff of me being a depressing little cell
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Sits back and sips his tea.
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Never, ever does he want to come across that Starscream.
Yeah, Nope. He sent the picture to Megatron as proof, then deleted the picture before dropping the pad on the counter.
He's gonna recharge now, and try to forget those piercing eyes that screamed murder.
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