#but the breaks arent the greatest and im not used to her yet
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Did you see JESSICA DREW from MARVEL walking around Limbo? The CISFEMALE looks like ALICIA VIKANDER, and is NINETY SEVEN years old. I’ve heard she can be VIRTUOUS & WITTY but also COCKSURE & REACTIVE. When I think of them I think of HELPING THE INNOCENT BY HOSPITALIZING THE GUILTY, RAISING SPIDER-BABY, THE GREATEST QUIPS OF ALL TIME BITCHCAKES. They’ve been here WITHOUT their memories as an PI & FIGHTER at BAKER STREET INVESTIGATIONS & UNDERGROUND FIGHT CLUB for SIX MONTHS. I heard they’re seeking a sanctum.
// whew. jess has a history™. it's long af and spans nearly a century so im not gonna go into crazy detail, but it's still lengthy. and i'm also gonna modify just a bit to fit in with the mcu for plotting reasons and stuff. if you don’t really care about her full history then there’s some bullet points toward the bottom.
she was born in england in 1924 and brought as a small child to the transia (it's a small, fictional slavic country) where her father was conducting research. unfortunately due to her being a small child, she contracted uranium poisoning from her father's work and had to be placed in a cryogenic chamber and treated with radiation and a highly experimental serum derived from the blood/genes of various species of spider.
she spent decades in stasis, educated subliminally with special tapes. when she was finally awakened she had only aged into her early teens, but she'd developed superhuman abilities.
grew up, moved away, met a dude, fell in love, then accidentally killed him with her powers. so yeah that kinda torments her still to this day. well, when she still remembered it anyway.
got recruited into hydra who she was led to believe were the good guys, had her memories suppressed, was told the high evolutionary basically a "god" figure, idek evolved her from a spider into a human woman, had an agent pretend to fall in love with her, etc etc. basically got gaslit and brainwashed into becoming a high ranking member until she was put out on a field assignment and told to assassinate nick fury. during the mission he told her what hydra really was and she dropped their asses.
got her memories back from mordred the mystic, then lived in a shitty apartment in london for a while. ended up breaking into a convenience store across the street at one point to get some food, but got noticed by shield agent jerry hunt who pretty much hounded her until she dyed her hair and created a secret identity to hide from him
did the hero thing for a while, moved to l.a., dated jerry, became a bounty hunter, moved to san francisco, became a p.i., superhero'd some more, met carol danvers 😍
went on a mission to finally take down longtime archenemy morgan le fay, and did so, but not before some morgan did some magic shit and separated her soul from her body ?? so she goes to the sorcerer magnus and has him cast a spell to make everyone who ever met her forget she existed.
not long later she was found and revived by two hero pals, breaking the spell, but she was left comatose. dr strange gets involved, abra cadabra, jess ain't a cadava'. but she is however, powerless.
continued working as a p.i. until an encounter with the new spider-woman mattie franklin somehow restored her powers, which came back slowly and were very unstable. meets jessica jones, accidentally zaps tf out of her, then works with her to save the new spider-woman.
eventually struck a deal with hydra to spy within shield so she could get her powers back but the skrull queen veranke was behind it and manipulating her so she could learn to perfectly impersonate jessica. jess ended up held captive for two years aboard a skrull spaceship while veranke took her place.
she and the rest of the captives got saved but because of the havoc veranke wreaked, she didn't exactly receive a warm welcome back.
spent some time rebuilding her reputation until she was invited to join the avengers (for avengers 1 in the mcu, let's say). they did some good work and she eventually fell for clint/hawkeye. they dated a while but things went sideways when he cheated on her (but obvs that's subject to change depending on who picks him up, just leaving that in for now bc it seems kinda noteworthy).
skipping comic spider-verse stuff bc how does that work with the rp, idek.
left the avengers after that and mostly stayed out of their business so she wasn't around for ultron or civil war and instead got back to her roots with some good ol fashioned p.i. work. may have crossed paths with the defenders and other street level heroes during this period.
then of course, came the snap. jess was one of the ones that vanished. using this instead of her death during secret wars in the comics. when everyone came back she joined all the others to fight thanos and damn right she was part of that moment with all the female heroes like she should have fucking been irl.
when things settled down after y'know, dying, she realized that she wanted to be a mother and raise a child, and almost never got that chance. instead of waiting, she got herself artificially inseminated. which was good too tbh because like, look at her luck with men and imagine getting stuck in one of those relationships she'd been in so far. way better off doing it on her own smh
got invited to an alpha flight maternity ward by her captain marvel but when she went there it ended up getting overrun by skrulls and being super fucking pregnant she called carol for help, but the maternity ward was apparently in a black hole?? bc ofc it was lol. so jess protected all the women there, had an emergency c-section to give birth to her son gerry, then popped right off the table to finish kicking skrull ass. carol got there just in time for jess to collapse into her arms after the fight. headcanon — there was always a crush there but this was the moment jess fell hard.
had a liiittle teensy falling out with carol tho so she ended up kissing roger gocking/porcupine right in front of her during a battle that ended up repairing their friendship. then she went on to have a party announcing she and roger were dating but lbr she did most of this sub/consciously hoping to get a rise out of carol. but her spider-baby ended up crawling out a window and roger was the one to find and save him and there were some actual feelings there too, so. complicated. she kind of distanced herself from everything else to focus on p.i. work and raising her son.
not much later, jess realized her radiation immunity was gone and her powers were killing her, so she had roger take gerry to an upstate farm in case her condition could potentially harm her son, then set out on the search for a cure. that search of course, leading her to limbo city, nevada.
upon her arrival however, her memories quickly started to fade and by the time she woke up the next morning she had no specific recollection of memories. just innate and instinctive knowledge like her emotions toward people she was familiar with, emotional trauma that manifests mostly in her dreams, maternal instincts/yearning, her abilities both physical and learned, her interests and likes/dislikes, etc. things that come naturally to her, for the most part.
interestingly though, the town’s magic seems to have cured her??
gonna say she speaks english, romanian, german, hungarian, symkarian, russian, bulgarian, polish and spanish fluently, and knows a bit about a number of other languages.
incredibly intelligent, she is after all the daughter of a genius, raised among scientists conducting research, and her knowledge/intelligence was only maximized by her stasis education tapes.
exudes a high concentration of pheromones that can attract or repulse people, to put it simply. and ignore the original heteronormative connotations bc women aren't typically the ones she wants to repulse, and men arent always the ones she wants to attract. it's difficult to control but she learned over the years. even now without her memories she has innate control over it, but if she manages to work up a sweat (which isn't all that easy for her tbh) or misses a shower or two, well… it's gonna kick in.
she probably can't do it anymore in limbo because she can't remember how, but with her pheromones she learned to control them so well she was able to elicit fear, anxiety, attraction, hatred, pleasure, etc. and even used them to convince the hulk to make her a sandwich once.
fucking loves butter. she's been known to eat the stuff straight up. and a lot of it. lucky thing she has a spider-metabolism.
hc: she loves making puns, especially spider related ones. she also likes to annoy her spider-friends by spider-throwing the word spider in front of everything though it's obviously a joke, unlike in her cartoon where im pretty sure she was dead serious lol
hates rats. so much. she will tear down a whole skrull army but if one shapeshifts into a rat it's over okay, she already lost.
allergic to flerkens. which is great for visiting her bestie/crush, and her pet flerken chewie.
still has her suit but hasn’t worn it yet in limbo. she found it under her bed a couple days after “waking up” in limbo but put it right back because she figured it was probably some weird sex thing and maybe wasn’t even hers so, gross, yknow?
#jessica drew.#limbchq: intro#jessica drew ( intro ).#death tw#gaslighting tw#captivity tw#pregnancy tw#i've come to love her so much in a short time
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Miss Jacki’s Top 30 Favorite Episodes
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Road Trip 9x10
Ahhh remember Gadreel!Sam? Of course you do. It wasnt the greatest storyline, we didn’t get to see him that much, but thats ok really. I dont like when my boys arent my boys for longer than one episode, so the fact that Gadreel only showed himself in little spurts was fine considering it lasted the whole first half of the season. In the same sense as Michael!Dean has been this season. Sam was Sam for the most part, until this episode, when Gadreel took over.
This was the return episode after the mid season finale. We had left off with Gadreel completely taking over Sam, killing Kevin and telling Dean that Sam was gone. Gadreel took off in the Impala, and Dean gathered Cas and Crowley to try to find him. Meanwhle, Gadreel is on a kill mission, to show Metatron he is loyal to the cause.
Jared did so good in this episode. Gadreel was an actual character, not just a few sentences before blipping out, and that character was totally NOT Sam.I very much enjoyed watching this. When Gadreel went to see his old friend Abner, in the vessel of Alaxander Sarver, there was genuine love in his face. This was great because it wasnt the same as how Sam shows love, yet it was still genuine and believable. It really sucked that Gadreel ended up killing Abner, but if there had been any doubt left that Gadreel had gone off the rails, this squelched it.
Dean and Co, caught up with him at Abners house, knocked him out and took him to one of Crowleys warehouses, strapped him to a chair, and got ready to do some digging. It was a very intense scene, but Jared does being tortured so well amirite?? My friend thinks Im weird because I love Sam, yet I love his torture scenes. She says “You think torturing Sam is hot?” and Im like “no, I think Sam is hot when being tortured.... big difference!” :D
Gadreel taunted that he could sit there forever and take whatever they dished out, and he could tear Sam apart as he sat there if he wanted to. Crowley managed to knock him out while sticking nasty needles into his/Sam’s brain. After a bit, this was just too much for Dean to watch. We soon find out who this psycho angel is, and what he was infamous for in Heaven. Gadreel tells us he has Sam tucked away in a dream, and the guys figure out the only way to get Sam to spit out Gadreel is to possess him, and tell him to spit him out.
Cas of course cant possess him without permission, but Crowley can. So in he goes. Sam is nice and chill,researching in the Library in his mind. Crowley tells him whats going on and Sam starts remembering what Gadreel did while using his body. “Did I kill Kevin?” Sam asks and looks completely devistated. “No, you didnt... he did... now cast this punk ass, holy roller out!” Gadreel appears and a fight ensues. I love this scene!! I discovered that my sexual orientation is Sam stepping on Gadreels throat “GET... THE HELL....OUT!!” evbnkbkjnbf n fvbjbvkjs
Gadreel flies out of Sam and back into his old vessel, and Sam is safe. Weak and bleeding, but safe.
The next and final scene breaks my heart. Sam and Dean talk in the rain about what happened. Sam is hurt and justifiably pissed, that Dean tricked him into being possessed. Dean takes it, but explains that Sam was dying and he just cant let that happen if he can help it. However, Dean thinks he should leave so that he doesnt hurt Sam or anyone else again. In this scene, when Sam hears that Dean wants to leave, his whole face and demeanor changes. He doesnt want Dean to leave, he just wants Dean to let him be pissed. But Sam isnt gonna beg, if Dean wants to go, he will let him.
I think I might be the only member of the fandom who empathizes with both brothers in this situation. Half of you believe Dean was wrong , and the other half believe Sam was ungrateful. I however, believe that no one knows how they’ll handle a situation like that, until theyre confronted with it. I was in a similar situation with my mom, she was dying, and the only thing that could save her life was a risky surgery that could make her paralyzed, could kill her, or allow for a full recovery. My mom was unconscious and couldnt make the decision on her own, so my father and I made the choice for her. If there was a chance she could be alright, and we didnt take it, we’d never be able to live with ourselves. We knew it could go wrong and we knew Mom could hate us for it, but better to have a pissed off mom, than a dead one. Any of you who have gone through something similar and chose to let your loved one go, thats alright too... its a very hard decision and no one should think they know what they’d do unless it happens.
Anyway, even though this started a long, painful, drawn out fight between the boys, this was a very good episode. And Im glad Dean made the choice he did, or we’d have no more Sam and I wouldnt be here gushing about him every day :)
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my thoughts on jonah
i think im just going to make this a series until the next epsiode because its kind of fun to me.
get comfortable up because this is going to be a kind of long one. maybe longer than the last one?
to start, i want to say this is going to be really hard to do simply because i see a lot of myself in jonah. i feel like in terms of relating to characters, him and cyrus are both at the top with buffy pretty close behind, but i ultimately think jonah has a slight edge for being the highest.
before i begin, i do want to say i don’t think he handled the situation with andi the greatest but i will get into that later.
and i am going to try to keep this as free of ships as i can.
anyways, i want to start with what literally everyone knows. he is a people pleaser. he has a hard time saying no because he wants people to like him. its the reason he ended up going to the sing-a-long with andi. its the reason he does a lot of things.
i also feel like he doesn’t like confrontation that much, based on the way he tried to passively get rid of the bracelet. he didnt directly state “i dont want to wear it anymore,” because i dont think he wanted to hurt andi. and i think that is also why the “break up” also went very badly.
so, when the time did come, i dont think everything came out exactly how he wanted it to. i think there is something going on behind the scenes that we literally dont know about. and we also know the only reason he called amber his “girlfriend” is because she made him. so maybe he was scared to commit to a relationship because he didnt want that to happen again? i dont know.
however, this doesn’t excuse the fact that he literally convinced andi they were something. it isnt even like she misunderstood by a long shot, or misinterpreted some things, because he literally held her hand. so i dont really know what the boy was thinking.
the only thing i can feasibly come up with is jonah started to see parts of amber in andi. amber never cared about anything jonah did, and realistically, andi never did either. but the second andi wanted to do something he had to be there. so maybe, he didnt want to get hurt again, i dont really know honestly. im not trying to make excuses for him, but there has to be a reason he treated the situation like that.
i kind of think the reason jonah was smiling is because he literally didnt know how to handle it. i know for a fact when i am put in a really uncomfortable situation i probably make faces and say things that don’t necessarily convey what i want them to. i think this is why im a bit more lenient about this, because i could very well see myself making the same mistake.
but yes, jonah absolutely needs to work on his communication skills. i think the best thing for him right now is to stay out of relationships for awhile so he can sort out everything he has going on.
and yes, i do still like jonah. and you may be wondering how i could possibly still like him after what he did to andi even though i despise tj. my simple answer, is because i dont think jonah is a bad person.
here is my more detailed answer:
tj straight up manipulated buffy into getting his way, then consciously decided he was not going to pass buffy the ball. he was well aware of what he was doing. he had no second thoughts about it, even going as far as mocking buffy with the same two words he used to gain her favor. everything he did was intentional and just mean.
as for jonah, i dont think he planned out how he was going to tell andi. he literally says he doesnt like labels because theyre too “labelly.” he, in the spur of the moment, did something that almost anyone in the world could do. does that mean it’s okay? no. but it doesnt make him a bad person in my opinion. good people can make mistakes. and mistakes arent intentional, planned ways to hurt someone.
i do think jonah still likes andi in some way. this may have been his weird way of saying “i dont know how i like you yet.” i dont really know.
so i dont think jonahs actions=tjs actions. i know there are a lot of people who hate him all of a sudden. i really hope he does give andi a genuine apology, because she deserves one. i dont think she has to forgive him immediately though, because thats unrealistic after everything that happened.
sorry this is really unorganized. i was kind of just trying to get my thoughts down. im just going to do a brief summary again in a lame attempt to pull this together.
i dont think jonah hurt andi on purpose. i think he just is bad at communicating what he really wants to say. i am still upset he did it though, because andi doesnt deserve that. but i still like jonah bc i dont think he is a bad person. just a good person who did a bad thing.
(who should i do next?)
#jonah beck#i might get attacked for this#idk jonah is such an interesting character to me#and what he did to andi just seems really out of character for him??#andi mack
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Who The Fuck Writes A Ten-Page Rant?????
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Chapter 6: A Message At Long Last
It had been days since you saw the cute guy, and you have basically given up any sort of hope that he would actually message you.
To be fair, it had only been one or two days, but still. Anyway, you still had stuff to work on, so there really wasn’t any use in moping about a cute guy you talked to for a grand total of four minutes and thirteen seconds.
Someone was pestering you, so you decided to answer, only to find that it was a handle you didn’t recognize.
-- carcinoGeneticist [CG] began trolling turntechGodhead [TG] --
CG: I CANNOT FUCKING *BELIEVE* THAT YOU ARE THE SAME FUCKING ASSHOLE THAT TEREZI GAVE ME THE CHUMHANDLE TO.
CG: I WASN’T GOING TO TROLL A DUMBASS LIKE THAT, SO I DIDN’T FOR WEEKS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A STUPID WASTE OF THE PRECIOUS AMOUNT OF TIME I HAVE LEFT.
CG: AND YET, HERE I AM.
CG: MESSAGING YOU.
CG: BECAUSE I DECIDED THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU WEREN’T A COMPLETELY AWFUL PERSON.
CG: ALSO, IF YOU HAVEN’T FIGURED IT OUT YET, I’M THE GUY WHO WORKS AT ROSEMARY.
CG: YOU KNOW, THE STORE YOU WENT TO GET A SUIT AT.
TG: holy shit you actually messaged me
TG: this is the best goddamned day of my entire life
TG: ive been blessed with your presence
CG: DAMN RIGHT YOU HAVE.
TG: you seem a lot more angry over text though
CG: IN CASE YOU FAILED TO NOTICE, I WAS AT WORK WHEN I MET YOU.
CG: I WAS ACTING “PROFESSIONAL.”
CG: PEOPLE DON’T USUALLY TAKE KINDLY TO OTHERS YELLING INSULTS AND CURSE WORDS INTO THEIR AURICULAR SPONGE CLOTS
TG: so are you always this angry when youre not at work
CG: YES.
TG: goddamn
TG: also, you know tz???
CG: YEAH, SHE’S A CHILDHOOD FRIEND, AND SHE ALSO DEMANDED TO GIVE ME YOUR CHUMHANDLE DESPITE ME SAYING THAT I ABSOLUTELY DID *NOT* WANT IT.
CG: BUT YOU GAVE ME YOUR CHUMHANDLE ANYWAY, SO IT’S NOT LIKE IT MATTERED.
TG: wait but why did she give you my chumhandle in the first place
TG: did she just up and decide that we needed to be friends because she and me are friends and so are you and her
CG: NO. SHE GAVE IT TO ME BECAUSE I WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW FUCKING MEMES GOING AROUND THAT ARE BASED ON A VIDEO YOU MADE.
CG: I COULD MAYBE HANDLE THE VIDEO.
CG: IT WAS KIND OF FUNNY, AND KANAYA SAID I SHOULD TRY LAUGHING AT MY PAST MISTAKES INSTEAD OF GETTING ANGRY AT THEM.
CG: BUT THE MEMES. OH GOD THE MEMES.
CG: THEY WERE THE MOST HORRIFIC THINGS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE, AND THAT’S PRETTY FUCKING DIFFICULT THING TO ACCOMPLISH, SO I GUESS I AM FORCED TO GIVE PROPS TO THAT.
CG: BUT THAT DOES NOT NEGATE THE ESTABLISHED *FACT* THAT THEY ARE THE WORST THINGS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY EXISTENCE.
CG: THEY MAKE ME WANT TO STAB MY EYES OUT AND BE BLIND FOR THE REST OF MY WAKING LIFE.
CG: I WON’T EVEN GET TEREZI TO TEACH ME HOW TO SEE BECAUSE THAT WOULD ENABLE ME TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A WHIFF OF THE SHIT PEOPLE PUT ON THE INTERNET.
CG: I’LL JUST GO THROUGHOUT MY LIFE BEING PERFECTLY FUCKING CONTENT WITH BEING ABLE TO SEE JACK SHIT.
TG: are you the guy who sent me that ten page rant then
TG: because that was fucking amazing
TG: best goddamn thing i ever seen
TG: highlight of the year
CG: IF THOSE GOD-FORSAKEN MEMES BECOME THE MEME OF THE YEAR, I WILL FIND SOME WAY TO MURDER YOU IN THE MOST SLOW AND PAINFUL WAY POSSIBLE.
TG: ouch
TG: guess im going to have to resign myself to my death
TG: because that meme is the best
TG: it will live on for generations
TG: it will never get old
TG: we will be on the edge of death all wrinkled and dying of whatever old people die of
TG: like a heart attack or something
TG: and then i will turn to the nearest person and speak with my dying breath
TG: “maybe one day my death will come so i never have to look at your god-forsaken channel ever again, you complete and utter douche muffin”
TG: and then theyll start laughing because they love that fucking meme
TG: memorized the entire goddamned thing
TG: it will be taught in schools
TG: kids will have to recite an excerpt of it to the class
TG: analyze the shit out of it
TG: where does all this guys anger come from
TG: nobody knows
TG: theyll just have to guess until theyre blue in the face
CG: THE WORDS. THEY DON’T STOP.
CG: I’VE JUST BEEN OVER HERE POLITELY WAITING TO SEE IF YOU WOULD BURN YOURSELF OUT.
CG: BUT APPARENTLY YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO ON FOR UNTIL AFTER THE UNIVERSE END UNLESS SOMEONE SHUTS YOU UP.
CG: AND CLEARLY THE UNIVERSE HAS GRANTED ME THIS VERY IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOU DON’T RUN YOUR MOUTH FOR ALL ETERNITY.
TG: clearly the greatest honor to ever be granted to someone
TG: the privilege to tell the dave strider to shut his pothole
CG: SHUT YOUR POTHOLE.
TG: hahahaha
TG: on a completely different note what even made you write a ten page rant about my channel anyways
CG: MOSTLY THE FACT THAT IT WAS A STUPID CHANNEL.
CG: BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT IT WAS THREE AM, AND I HADN’T SLEPT FOR A WHILE.
TG: so what youre telling me is
TG: you *actually* sent me a ten page rant when you were that sleep deprived
TG: no wonder it was so incoherent
CG: I COULD PROBABLY HAVE WRITTEN IT BETTER IF I WASN’T SO TIRED.
CG: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST GODDAMNED PIECE OF WRITING IN ALL OF PARADOX SPACE
CG: NOTHING ELSE COULD EVER COMPETE TO THE MASTERPIECE I WOULD HAVE CREATED.
CG: HOWEVER, INSTEAD, MY PAST SELF, AND BY THAT I MEAN *MYSELF*, WRITES A HEAPING PILE OF FESTERING SHIT.
TG: point taken
TG: the question here is
TG: will you ever write this masterpiece
TG: will i ever get the pleasure of reading this glorious piece of hate mail directed towards yours truly
CG: NO.
TG: wow harsh
TG: shut down immediately
TG: didnt even get to go on a weirdly personal tangent
TG: would have been fantastic
TG: i have no conceivable idea of where it would have gone
TG: but i can guarantee it would have been the second best thing in the universe
TG: second only to the hypothetical rewrite of the glorious hate mail that you sent me
CG: AND IT WILL STAY HYPOTHETICAL FOR ALL OF ETERNITY.
CG: I REFUSE TO EMBARRASS MYSELF LIKE THAT EVER AGAIN.
CG: HOW DID I EVEN GET TO THE POINT IN MY LIFE WHERE I AM MESSAGING YOU.
CG: OH, WAIT. NOW I REMEMBER.
CG: IT WAS BECAUSE YOU WEREN’T A COMPLETE ASSHOLE IN PERSON.
CG: CLEARLY THAT DOES NOT TRANSFER OVER TO TEXT.
TG: im hurt karkat
CG: SUCK IT UP, DINGUS.
TG: dave actually
TG: i dont know if i actually introduced myself to you
CG: I DON’T THINK YOU DID EITHER.
CG: ALTHOUGH, I THINK YOUR SISTER INTRODUCED YOU, BUT IT OCCURS TO ME THAT I DIDN’T ACTUALLY CATCH YOUR NAME WHEN SHE SAID IT.
CG: IT’S A MIRACLE YOU ACTUALLY REMEMBERED MY NAME.
TG: what can i say im good with names
TG: and also multiple people said it in my presence so i guess there is also that
CG: I GUESS
TG: …
CG: …
TG: …
CG: …
CG: I CAN’T BELIEVE BOTH OF US ARE OUT OF THINGS TO SAY FOR ONCE.
TG: huh
TG: i suppose so
TG: …
CG: I GUESS YOU COULD PESTER ME IF YOU EVER FIND SOMETHING TO RUN YOUR MOUTH ABOUT.
CG: OR I’LL TROLL YOU ABOUT SOMETHING OR OTHER.
CG: LATER THOUGH.
CG: BYE.
TG: see ya
-- carcinoGeneticist [CG] ceased trolling turntechGodhead [TG] --
You sigh, a bit sad that the conversation ended, and then you immediately decide to inform others of this happening.
-- turntechGodhead [TG] began pestering tentacleTherapist [TT] --
TG: rose rose youll never guess what happened
-- tentacleTherapist [TT] is an idle chum! --
TG: i guess you will never guess what happened since you arent even hear to guess
TG: what are you even doing
TG: please dont tell me you went into your writing bunker
TG: if you did i wont be able to talk to you for at least a week if not more
TG: and no one else will be able to either
TG: what if kanaya tries to message you
TG: assuming you actually exchanged contact information
TG: how long ago did you even do that
TG: how could you not tell your own brother that you got a girls chumhandle
TG: have you asked her out yet
TG: it would be great if you were on a date instead of in the writing bunker
TG: then people could actually contact you and you wouldnt be completely isolating yourself from the rest of the world other than brief trips outside to get food
TG: anyway karkat messaged me and we had a conversation
TG: i would tell you more about it but it seems you are an idle chum
TG: pester me later if you want the details
-- turntechGodhead [TG] ceased pestering tentacleTherapist [TT] --
-- turntechGodhead [TG] began pestering gallowsCalibrator [GC] --
TG: tz youll never guess what just happened
GC: 1M GO1NG TO T4K3 4 W1LD GU3SS 4ND S4Y TH4T K4RK4T F1N4LLY GOT 4ROUND TO M3SS4G1NG YOU
TG: youd be correct
TG: how did you know
TG: i mean i know that he got my chumhandle from you but also he refused to message me for weeks
GC: 1 H4V3 4 C3RT41N T4L3NT FOR KNOW1NG TH3S3 SORTS OF TH1NGS
GC: 4ND 4LSO K4RK4T 1S Y3LL1NG 4T M3 1N 4NOTH3R CH4T
GC: 1 H4V3 OPT3D TO 1GNOR3 H1M FOR NOW
GC: 4NYW4Y, WH4T D1D YOU TWO T4LK 4BOUT
TG: we talked about memes
CG: M3M3S?
TG: yes memes
TG: specifically the memes that erupted after the rant video
GC: OF COURS3
GC: H3 W4S V3RY 4NGRY 4BOUT THOS3
GC: WH1CH R3M1NDS M3, WHY D1D H3 M3SS4G3 YOU 1N TH3 F1RST PL4C3 1F H3 W4S SO 4G41NST 1T B3FOR3?
TG: okay so remember the cute boy i was talking about like two days ago
GC: Y34H
TG: that was karkat
GC: …
GC: …
GC: …
TG: terezi??
TG: did i actually break you or do you just need a moment to process the information i just gave you
TG: yo tz i need some confirmation that you did not just die from an overload of information
TG: hit me up with your response
TG: are you alive
GC: NO
TG: thank god youre not dead
GC: TH4TS WH4T TH3 GOV3RNM3NT W4NTS YOU TO TH1NK
TG: shit youre right
TG: the government is doing all this nasty shit and now they are making it so we think we arent dead
TG: how do we know the government isnt dead though
GC: SHHHHHH
GC: TH3S3 4R3 TOP S3CR3T GOV3RNM3NT S3CR3TS YOUR3 SPR34D1NG 4BOUT
GC: YOUV3 GOT TO B3 MOR3 D1SCR3T3
TG: discrete is my middle name
GC: NO, YOUR3 M1DDL3 N4M3 1S 3L1Z4B3TH
TG: shit you got me there
GC: 4ND YOU 4R3 4BOUT 4S D1SCR3T3 4S 4 TR41N CR4SH
GC: YOU COULDNT BE D1SCR3T3 1F YOUR L1F3 D3P3ND3D ON 1T
TG: those are some harsh words
GC: 4R3 TH3Y WRONG?
TG: …
GC: 1 R3ST MY C4S3
GC: 4NYW4Y, W3 H4V3 GOTT3N 3NT1IR3LY OFF TR4CK FROM TH3 CONV3RS4T1ON 4T H4ND
GC: R3G4RDL3SS OF HOW MUCH FUN W3 W3R3 H4V1NG W1TH TH1S S3CR3CY T4LK
GC: WH4T 4BOUT K4RK4T M33T1NG YOU 1N R34L L1F3 CH4NG3D H1S M1ND 4BOUT M3SS4G1NG YOU?
TG: i honestly dont know for sure but he said something about me actually not seeming like a complete douchebag in real life
GC: M4K3S S3NS3 W1TH HOW FLUST3R3D 1 4M 4SSUM1NG YOU W3R3
GC: TH3 GUY W4S COMPL41N1NG HOW YOU W3R3 COMPL3T3LY MONOTON3 1N 4LL OF YOUR V1D3OS
GC: 4ND TH3N H3 S33S YOU H4V3 4N 4CTU4L 3MOT1ON >:O
GC: 3SP3C14LLY 4N 3MOT1ON WH3R3 YOU SHOW TH4T YOU L1K3 H1M
GC: TH3 GUY 1S 4 SUCK3R FOR ROM3NC3
GC: NOV3LS 4ND MOV13S 4L1K3
TG: holy fuck
TG: i cant believe i kind of flirted with a hopeless romantic
GC: 1 HOP3 YOU DONT TH1NK TH4T H3 W1LL D4T3 YOU JUST B3C4US3 OF TH4T
TG: of course not
TG: im not some goddamned creeper
TG: if he doesnt want to date me thats fine
TG: it would be great to be friends with him at least
TG: i had fun talking to him earlier
GC: D4V3
TG: what
GC: 1S TH4T 4N 3MOT1ON 1 SM3LL?
TG: oh my god tz we are not doing this for the hundredth time
TG: we get it
TG: i
TG: the cool kid
TG: has emotions like every other human being on the planet
TG: its not such a surprise anymore
GC: YOU H4V3 4N 3N1R3 GRUBTUB3 CH4NN3L D3D1C4T3D TO R3V13W1NG TH1NGS 1N TH3 MOST 3MOT1ONL3SS W4Y POSS1BL3
TG: …
TG: ok thats fair
GC: BUT 1M W4RN1NG YOU NOW 4BOUT K4RK4TS LOV3 OF ROMCOMS
GC: H3 W1LL T4LK 4T L3NGTH 4BOUT TH3M 4ND TH3R3 1S ABSOLUT3LY NOTH1NG YOU C4N DO TO PR3V3NT TH4T FROM H4PP3N1NG
GC: SO YOU M1GHT 4S W3LL G1V3 UP HOP3 NOW
TG: god damn
TG: and here i was
TG: woefully unprepared for the potential onslaught of romcoms
TG: and then you come along
TG: with all your future knowledge and shit like a some kind of seer or something
TG: and allowed me to arm myself with the knowledge that karkat really fucking loves romcoms
TG: thank you for you have done a great deed
GC: JUST W41T UNT1L H3 FORC3S YOU TO W4TCH TH3M
TG: is that a thing he does
TG: aggressively shoves romcoms into his friends faces
TG: how are yall still sane
GC: 4T SOM3 PO1NT YOU L34RN TO 4CC3PT YOUR F4T3 B3C4US3 1T 1S E4S13R 1N TH3 LONG RUN
GC: 4ND T4K3S UP L3SS T1M3
GC: YOU C4N 4LSO JUST F4LL 4SL33P DUR1NG TH3 MOV13
GC: K4RK4T W1LL B3 TOO 1NTO TH3 MOV13 TO 4CTU4LLY C4R3
TG: good to know
TG: i thank you for the sheer amount of wisdom you hold
GC: YOUR3 W3LCOM3
GC: OH 1 H4V3 TO GO NOW
GC: 1 H4V3 4 D4T3
GC: >;]
-- gallowsCalibrator [GC] ceased trolling turntechGodhead [TG] --
TG: wait hold on who are you going on a date with
TG: shit
TG: youre already gone
TG: ill weasel the truth out of you sooner or later
TG: or i guess youll just tell me
TG: same difference really
TG: or maybe not
TG: whatever
TG: case still stands that i will find out who you are going on a date with
TG: i want details
TG: except maybe not really
TG: i would rather a brief overview of the date if that is possible
TG: please dont go into weird tangents about how much you licked them
TG: because that would be awkward and weird
TG: anyway
TG: later
-- turntechGodhead [TG] ceased pestering gallowsCalibrator [GC] --
You decide to take the remainder of the day to work on some more videos. After all, you know Terezi will probably tell you who she went on a date with sooner or later, and Karkat said he might message you in the future. You can't help but smile at that. He was fun to talk to, so it would be nice to hear from him again.
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Fitness Isnt a Lifestyle Anymore. Sometimes Its a Cult
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Fitness Isnt a Lifestyle Anymore. Sometimes Its a Cult
San Franciscos Fort Mason park is empty in the early morning darkness, every surface the color of a used cast-iron pan. Its pouring rain, and Ive been wandering around since just after 6, trying to find well, Im not exactly sure. All I know is that, according to a Facebook post, members of one of the strangest fitness groups in the country are supposed to be meeting here right about now. But the Google Maps screenshot I pulled from the website seems to have directed me to a parking lot. Or the front door of the high-end vegetarian restaurant Greens. Its hard to tell.
I check Facebook again.
What are you planning to do for the first Monday of 2016? Sleep in? Lazily slog on into work? No need for that. Come join us for #DonutMondays at NPSF (Gil, dont forget the donuts!). Fort Mason. 6:25AM
Just as I start thinking Ill have to find my own doughnut, a woman in her mid-twenties jogs up to me looking equally lost. Shes dressed in a gray Adidas jacket, black leggings, and a tank top that resembles caution tape. Her wet hair is stuck to her forehead as though shes just been dunked in the Pacific.
Do you know where November Project meets? she asks with a slight accent. Relieved, I tell her Im trying to find them as well. Im Stine! she says.
And then she hugs me.
What distinguishes November Project is not just the fact that its freejust as instructors arent paid, members dont paybut the degree to which it actually is a social identity. The movement extends beyond exercising to encompass rituals and customs, social expectations, and repercussions for failing to participate. Thats right: If you skip a November Project workout, youre not out any cash, but the fallout is arguably more severe. Youre, well, shamed. Online. Its weird.
Spoiler: Not a lot of people miss workouts. Teixeira calls it an absolute feast for someone studying motivation for exercise.
One member compared November Project to a church. More commonly, people refer to it as a cult. Never in the pejorative Im-trapped-and-I-cant-escape sense, though. More like, This is the greatest-tasting Kool-Aid in the world!
Laura McCloskey leads the San Francisco tribe in a high-intensity workout. Hugs and hand-holding are not optional.Jake Stangel
While we walk, Stine, whos originally from Denmark, tells me about her obsession with November Project. Shes been a member of the Boston tribebears repeating: tribefor about four months and is visiting San Francisco for the week. Its been such a great way to meet people. Cities can be lonely, but you have this instant community, she says, using a nice-enough line that begins to sound like propaganda as I hear other members repeat it.
Two people who say it a lot are Brogan Graham and Bojan Mandaric. They are November Projects cofoundersand they totally fit their gladiatorial-sounding names: 6-foot-tall, bald, tattooed former collegiate rowers. Back in 2011, when the friends were trying to stay motivated during a Boston winter, they agreed to work out every weekday morning at 6:30, keeping track of their progress on a spreadsheet named for that first month, November.
Then, for reasons neither can quite remember, they sent out a tweet to see if anyone would join in. Two people became three, and a movement was born. When the Boston tribe reached 300 people, Graham and Mandaric got matching tattoos.
In the past few years, fitness has developed into something of a social identity — at least among plugged-in, upper-middle-class, roughly millennial-age urbanites.
It was a powerful turning point for Graham. During his sophomore year at Northeastern University, he was charged with assaulting a rival college rower. Though the charge was dropped in exchange for community service, he lost his scholarship and was kicked out of school. The experience shaped Grahams views on community and inclusion. Got a bad rap? I dont care, he wrote in the movements official history. Are you at November Project to be kind, work your ass off, and start your day right? Then thats all that matters.
As Stine is telling me how much she loves November Projects instant community, we find who were looking for. Unmistakably silhouetted against the foggy morning sky, about 40 people stand in a lopsided semicircle, arms crossed, heads bowed against the wind. They could be praying.
A woman in striped leggings and a North Face trucker hat climbs onto a park bench. Good morning! says Laura McCloskey, the San Francisco tribe leader, in a stage whisper. Were going to do a workout that I just came up with! I want everyone to break into groups of four! Find your four! Try to group up with someone you dont normally pair with!
Jake Stangel
Before we start, she asks if today is anyones first time. A few people raise their hands. I, not quite ready to give up my anonymity, do not. The newbies are directed to state where they come from, how they got here, and whether theyre single. A version of this happens at every November Project meetup, one of the traditions borrowed from Graham and Mandarics original Boston tribealong with chants, stair laps, a rallying move called the bounce, and, of course, physical affection. People come looking for a sense of belonging, Mandaric says. We foster that.
The same thing goes for November Projects other tactics for promoting inclusiveness. Hashtags are essential follow November Project on Twitter and youll see a lot of #hillsforbreakfast, #sleepwhenyouredead, and #justshowup. Members usually don highlighter-colored sportswear, stenciled and spray-painted with the logo #grassrootsgear. The result is a group of people who look alike, sound alike, and hug alike.
Toward the end of our workout, a man in my squat group finally discovers that I didnt announce myself as a new member. Were going to fix this, he says with a grin. He outs me to McCloskey, who has me wave to everyone during the group photo (another ritual) and apologize for not making my presence known. Eventually, everyone becomes part of the tribe.
Jake Stangel
In Graham and Mandarics crew days, their coach had a policy: If anyone missed practice, the whole team had to do dry-land workouts. It worked because nobody wanted to let the group down. When they started November Project, they knew theyd need a similar system for keeping people accountable to the tribe.
I feel a tiny bit of thisan expectation that no one is above the groupwhen Im teased for not introducing myself. But thats nothing compared to what happens to someone who doesnt show up for a workout. For that, November Project has perfected a bizarre, more 21st-century form of establishing accountability: online shaming. This is known as We Missed You.
From November Projects website: If you decided that staying in bed was a better option than working out with your friends (who you promised that youll be there) then your face will be featured here.
Members usually don highlighter-colored sportswear, stenciled and spray-painted with the logo #grassrootsgear.
By face, they mean embarrassing photos lifted from the shamed members Facebook profile or supplied by friends. Posts go on to explain that this person committed to attending a workoutmade a #verbal, in tribe-speakbut reneged. Screenshots of text messages and emails confirming said #verbal are posted, along with guesses as to why the absentee might have failed to show upanything from you must have gotten too drunk the night before to perhaps you were lost on a Segway tour. Its an elaborate expression of profound disappointment in the offending person, and there are hundreds of examples on the website.
Paddy OLeary, a member of the San Francisco tribe, remembers when he skipped a workout in 2013. A fellow member made him a We Missed You video; he hasnt missed a workout since. Other victims confirm the tactics effectiveness. You look like an idiot for sleeping in when everyone else is having an amazing time, says Holly Richardson, also in San Francisco. Its not worth it.
McCloskey makes no apologies for the policy. November Project is successful because it relies on word of mouth and accountability, she says. If I tell you that I will meet you at the corner of Market and Sanchez to run to November Project, come rain, snow, or dinosaurs, I will be there. In the event that someone sends one of those pathetic just cant do it texts at 5:55 am, we have the right to roast them. And roast we do.
Jake Stangel
Heres the fundamental thing about shaming: According to behavioral psychologists, its not supposed to work. Sure, it might force someone to make a change in the momentcontestants on The Biggest Loser shedding pounds before a national audience, for instancebut the effects dont always last. When your goals, attitudes, or values are shaped by external motivators, its unlikely youll stay satisfied or committed for long.
This is certainly true when it comes to working out. For decades, experts in behavior modification have tried to get people to commit to exercise. So far, nothing has worked, says Jack Raglin, a professor of kinesiology at Indiana University. It doesnt matter if youre paid to exercise, if youve paid to exercise, if you might die from lack of exercisemost people just dont stick it out.
Yet theres an undeniable element of shaming to this latest generation of exercise fads. It may have started with fitness trackers, which made people more aware of their activity levels in relation to othersreach 10,000 steps or your coworkers will know youre a slob. From there, programs began capitalizing on group pressure. In Orangetheory workouts, your calorie burn and heart rate are displayed on a screen. CrossFit posts scores as well, believing it encourages people to push harderand now its in 13,000 affiliated gyms worldwide.
But this motivation strategy, researchers like Raglin and Teixeira suggest, could be as doomed as any other. You may initially want to impress your peers or get your moneys worth, but those considerations rarely lead to true behavior change. If the standard adherence rate for exercise holds, Raglin says, half the people will stop showing up to these classes within a year.
Youd think this would apply to November Project too. After all, the threat of We Missed You is external. But there are some differences. November Project members are not paying anything to be there, the goals arent about burning the most caloriesyet people show up anyway. And many of them have been at this for years, without ever missing a single workout. Its clearly working for some people.
Jake Stangel
True motivation, Teixeira says, takes something extra, something intrinsic. If members of a group think they are gaining useful skills, feel personally valued, and perceive that they have control over their actions, they are more likely to fully commit. Teixeira believes November Project gives you a bit of all these things. And indeed, everyone I talk to seems like a lifer. But then again, I only talk to people who are there. The one real data point we have is that November Project continues to expand. A recent partnership with the North Face aims to help grow the movement.
Jennifer Hurst, an associate professor of health and exercise science at Truman State University, suggests November Project may be succeeding at pulling off a rare thing: positive shaming. It only works when the person truly cares what the shamers think, she says. The desire for social connectedness and the positive feeling some get from the environment must be worth the time, energy, and sacrifice. That explains why the rituals, cultlike as they seem, are so crucial. You dont want to disappoint people you hug, not to mention chant and bounce and dance with.
A number of years ago, Raglin and his colleagues found that married adults who enrolled in a recreational fitness program together had an average adherence rate of over 90 percent, compared to just 50 percent for those who enrolled on their own. The married pair didnt necessarily exercise together or even in the same room, Raglin says. They simply came and left together. Yet the social benefit was quite profound.
That may also help explain November Projects success. Members might not be married to each other, but theyre married to the group. And the group is what holds November Project together.
Jake Stangel
It turns out some November Project members actually are married to each other. At one of my workouts, a young couple tells me they met in the Boston tribe. The movement encourages this sort of thingleaders are expected to host mixers and speed-dating events. The phrase There will be babies appears on the blog and in promo material.
Yes, its all a bit creepy, and I dont blame passersby who look at us funny (there are many of them). And no matter how many times Im told that We Missed You is not about shaming, its about love, I wont be entirely convinced. But you cant deny the smile on these peoples faces. Nobody looks like that when theyre huffing it alone on a treadmill in their garage. I wont be heading up a November Project tribe back home in Santa Fe, but if one comes to my town, I wouldnt say no to a few hugs.
With dawn creeping over the edges of the city, we put our arms around each other and start to bounce. Yall good? someone says, in signature November Project whisper-shout. Fuck yeah! the group whispers back.
Surprising myself just a little, I say it too.
Meaghen Brown (@meaghenbrown) is a freelance journalist based in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and the former online fitness editor for Outside.
This article appears in the July 2016 issue.
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Lucky im in love (Chapter 21)
*the following day*
p.o.v Ellington
Today is the day i get my surprise from Rocky whatever it is. im really excited even though i have no clue what it is. i walked into the kitchen for breakfast being greeted by Riker and Rydel who were being adorable as always, and Stormie. the three of them smiled from ear to ear as soon as i walked in. "goodmorning sweetie" stormie said sounding even slightly abnormally happy compared to her normal self. "i feel like the three of you know something that i dont" i said. "wait... you guys know what the surprise is, dont you?" i asked. after that they all nodded without saying anything. "believe me sweetie, it will be worth the wait" stormie spoke again. after that none of us said anything else and we all just ate our breakfast and began to go about our day.
P.o.v Rocky
I can't believe I am going to propose tonight! I am so nervous, I mean I haven't even worked out what exactly I'm going to say yet. Well I still have all day to think of the perfect thing to say to him. Besides it is bound to come to me right on the spot anyways. All of a sudden I saw Rydel walk by. "Hey Rydel! Can we talk for a minute?" I asked nervously. "Yeah! Are you nervous about tonight? Because if you are there is no need to be at all. I mean... You love him right?" She said, causing me to look at her as if she were insane. "Yes! I love him with all my heart." I replied. "Then there is nothing to worry about because I know he loves you more than anything in the entire world. The way he looks at you when you aren't paying attention but everyone else is, is a look full of love, and let me tell you. I dont know if you realize this but What the two of you have is special and can only be found once in a life time." After that she held her arms out "c'mere" she said almost inaudibly. I stept right into her arms reach and she pulled me into a tight hug. "Thankyou Rydel" I said thankfully. "You're welcome" she replied.
P.o.v Riker
I can believe my little Brother is going to propose tonight. im so excited and happy for them! To be totally honest it seems like only yesterday that they first realized they had feelings toward one another. it makes me think about my relationship with rydel and whether i think we are ready for the next step or not. to be honest im just so ecxited for my brother right now that i literally do not have the ability to think straight about anything else so i think im gonna just get through today and think about it later on. the day Rolled around quite quickly for me. currently everyone is in the livingroom except for Rocky and ellington when all of a sudden they walked in being all adorable and shit. ellington was on Rocky's back and as they walked in ell hid his face in the crook of rocky's neck for whatever reason. it didnt matter though because it was adorable. to anyone in this world who says they are the biggest rockliff shipper:you have it all wrong, because i am. its actually pretty funny because whenever the two of them arent around we would be going about our day until someone happens to somehow casually bring up the topic of rockliff which literally i kid you not causes us to fight about who is the biggest Rockliff shipper. sometimes mom even joins in on the fight until dad sees what is going on and breaks it up. anyways... back to reality. "you two are so damn cute, why arent you two engaged!" i said jokingly. this causing Rocky's face to go red as he puts ellington back on the floor and making him face him.
p.o.v Rocky
"you two are so damn cute, why arent you two engaged!" Riker said clearly joking around but it still made me blush like mad. "well actually..." i said after setting Ellington back on the floor and turning him to face me making sure he was looking me right in the eyes. "what's going on?" he asked sounding confused. "babe i was going to do this later when we were all alone but since riker brought it up..." i sent him a sarcastic death glare. "i figured i would do it now. besides, we have a lot of important people in our lives here to share this moment with us this way." he still looked confused. "babe i know we have had our ups and downs but its all part of life" after i said that i reached into my pocket and pulled out the little box which the ring was in and opened it to reveal the ring. "and i guess what im trying to say is that i love you more than anything in the entire world and i want you to be mine forever. Ellington Lee Ratliff, will you do me the greatest honour in becoming my husband"
p.o.v Ellington
"will you do me the greatest honour in becoming my husband" i stood there in complete shock. i cant believe that the love of my life just proposed to me! im so happy that i can feel the tears welling in my eyes. "yes! Yes i will marry you Rocky!" i said just loud enough for only Roky and i to hear. with that he took the ring out of the box slipping on the ring finger of my left hand. i cant believe im engaged! Rocky and i kissed, but this kiss was different but i cant particularly pinpoint how though. all of a sudden i was cut from my thoughts by everyone 'aw' ing and clapping. after the excitement had died down a little bit stormie spoke "ellington, why dont you call your parents and have them come over so you can share the news with them and we can all have a nice dinner together." to be honest i was so caught up in everything that i had actually kind of forgotten about the fact that my parents dont know yet about my engagement. "okay ill go call them now!" i said excitedly kissing my fiancee on the cheek and dragging him to the other room because there was no way in hell i was making this phone call to my parents without my fiance!
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Carl Bass on his surprising Autodesk exit and whats next
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Carl Bass on his surprising Autodesk exit and whats next
Carl Bass is sitting at his desk at Autodesk today, but hes no more Chief executive officer from the openly traded design software company. He walked lower the 2009 week inside a move that some connected wrongly, notesBass by having an interview Bass granted towards the outlet Pando,wherein he disparaged President Jesse Trump.
Today, we spoken with Bass about his resignation, his ongoing role like a board member with Autodesk, ifhe regrets reporting in from the administration like a public company Chief executive officer and whetherhe thinks more tech CEOs must do exactly the same.
The famously straight-shooting Bass had plenty to say of everything. Also, he shared a number of what he wishes to focus on next. Our conversation continues to be edited gently for length.
TC: You walked lower as Chief executive officer on Tuesday, and senior VPs Amar Hanspal and Andrew Anagnost happen to be installed as interim co-CEOs. But youre helping in the quest for your substitute, is the fact that correct?
CB: Yes, Tuesday was my last day, but Ill continue being employed as an worker for 3 several weeks and am ongoing around the board of company directors for some time. We began planning this not long ago, because the easiest method to do [a succession change] is perfect for the present Chief executive officer to step lower. Otherwise, the very best exterior candidates arent sure theres a real job opening. You realize, sometimes you seethe pocket veto, in which the Chief executive officer includes a change of heart and states, Hey, if you are likely to choose so and thus, I am not departing. This can be a clean break, and outdoors candidates work hard at it, and also the board takes it seriously. Weve hired an outdoors search team who definitely are speaking with internal and exterior candidates, so hopefully [well find the correct candidate] rapidly.
TC: Youve stated that you simply and Autodesks board started succession planning talks 18 several weeks ago, however, many people believe aninterview in which you belittled Jesse Trump performed a job within the timing of the resignation.
CB: There have been lots of rumors now that couldnt be more wrong. Towards the extent that you simply take exactly what a company states having a touch of suspicion [because companies is really so marketing], with regards to governance, they are real rules. You will find real penalties of law. Public companies dont take that gently.
TC: Would you regret being so public about your feelings about Trump?
CB: Not, by no means. Not just one bit. Whenever you take a look at Trump, you will find three things happening: policies character and temperament and executive or administrative functioning. I believe on two and three, almost everyone can agree that he is not qualified, because of that , I joked [to Pandos Sarah Lacy]that hes runningthe government like someone among a little businessman and dictator. I watch whats happening every single day, and Im advised of my children once they were 4 years old coupled with no understanding of anything outdoors of themselves. Hes a 70-year-old baby.
Around the policy stuff, its difficult to parse what his policy is. Were against the main one China policy now were for it. Would slowly move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem now were not. Policy appears is the area of the job that least interests him.They are complicated issues, however they dont appear to captivate him. He doesnt appear particularly curious or thoughtful about the subject. Hes interested in tweeting the latest insult that [springs tomind].
TC: Do you consider other tech executives ought to be more vocal, or perhaps is it an excessive amount of a danger?
CB: I believe anybody with a platform should speak out. Ive had a lot of people achieve out tome now peoplemuch better-known than I’m, say, Thats awesome, that which you stated. And Im like, Why dont you express it? You’ve got a bigger pulpit.
TC: Many people think Tesla and SpaceX Chief executive officer Elon Musk should step off Trumps economic advisory council. What is your opinion?
CB: Its an elaborate problem for Elon.I thinkmany of the things that hes attempting to accomplish are actually worthy goals however they intersect with regulation: autonomous vehicles, putting things wide. You cannot do this with no government, so from the very self-interested perspective, as well as in the eye of his companies, I realize. However, he’s a really public platform and Imsure he’s a viewpoint and when everyone takes the self-interested view, the planet doesnt reach hear the opinions of their leaders. And So I think its important however i certainly understand.
Ive [feel much more strongly about Facebook COO] SherylSandberg. Shehas gone from her method to develop a brand around the strength of womenand what theyre able to, and with regards to the Womens March, she wasinvisible. She appears to possess leaned out a great deal.
TC: Why have you start succession planning 18 several weeks ago? Lots of CEOs run their companies more than you’ve.
CB: Id been performing for any lengthy time. Ive been Chief executive officer for 11 many there have been 2 or 3 years after i was COO and accountable for the companys day-to-day, therefore it seems like 14 years that Ive been carrying this out.
And That I have ample other interests. Im on a number of boards [includingHP and Zendesk andstill-private startups,including Planet]. I’ve got a small portfolio of products Ive committed to. I’ve two bigworkshops where I build and invent things making stuff.
I really like the organization and that i love my job, however it hugely consumes your time and effort. Like all other executive job, its 60 hrs per week and when you allow 60, the task [demands]65. Youre never done. To complete the job well, additionally you need the years skin. You’ll need thick skin when individuals think you had been fired since you stated something about Trump. You’ll need thin skin to empathize together with your customers and employees and also the world surrounding you. And all sorts of individuals forces get tiring before long. My second kid got away from home this yearand I must take more time within the shop, traveling with startups.
TC: You had been also coping with activist investor groups Sachem Mind Capital and Eminence Capital who together collected an 11.five percent stake in the organization.
CB:Last fall, i was while making the modification, and merely then, the activists demonstrated up. I shouldn’t overemphasize it’s not like they’d a great deal to say about the organization. It was not that people used to do badly. They more thoughtwe were sandbagging concerning the future and now we ought to be speaking up which our lengthy-range projections were [too conservative]. It had been, Everyone could do two times too! Well, its easyto say in the sidelines. Easy that i can say Atlanta must have won the Super Bowl, however i didnt need to play.
Therefore we suspended succession planning. We use it hold because weneeded more stable leadership as the activists have there been and if the next Chief executive officer is definitely an exterior or internal person, it appears as an unfair burden to put in it. I’ve got a fair quantity of currency staying with you Im a lot more prepared to fight than many more. I figured, This can be a job designed for me, and that i should stay before the activists choose to leave.
So this past year these were around the board. The companys stock expires 70 or 80 % during the last 12 several weeks, the think markets convey more confidence in [Autodesks relocate 2015 to some subscription-only model], so we wereable to create a deal. I stated, Im prepared to do this again process if everyone leave the board. Now theyre moving away from the board [when the new Chief executive officer is elected], and Im escaping . asCEO.
TC: Plastic Valley startups have become more conscious of theneedto defend themselves from activist investorsand theyve more and more been granting founders special kinds of stock that provide them control of key decisions. Do you consider thats the reply to this problem?
CB: Yes. Basically would be a founder, I’d have particular stock. Because numerous things in corporate governance have given themselves to activists making use, I believe the response needs to be, a minimum of for the short term, that companies have dual-class mechanisms in position.
I believe neither extreme is nice, though. I believe activism is that this deviant, extreme type of capitalism. Its like other ideologies, wheregood ideas are come to a serious and lose their meaning. However, I do not think dual-class stock is the greatest mechanism because shareholders must have a say.
Id want to see tenured voting, where theresa premium depending on how lengthy you have the shares. I do not are conscious of any public company which has tried it yet, however i have no idea the reason why you no longer can do it. [It might follow that] one individual that has owneda million shares for just one year has less voting power than someone else that has owned millions of shares for 2 years.
TC: Before we allow you to go, whats next? Is every venture firm on Sand Hill Road attempting to lure you in to the fold?
CB: Ive been shocked by the amount of those who have plans for which I ought to do next. Its a funnymix within my inbox at this time. Ive received4,000 emails from employees, that are very touching and emotional. However, you will find each one of these people looking to get me to behave next.
I amgoing to complete an advisory role at Google X. Ive been considering [potentially] startingmy own accelerator program. Within the next couple of several weeks Ill evaluate which Im likely to do. Meanwhile, I wish to keep skiing around the weekdays.
Find out more: https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/10/carl-bass-on-his-surprising-autodesk-exit-and-whats-next/
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