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saltyoaktree · 1 year
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Here is my contribution to the fandom
I call it "The Bi Ted Thesis"
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ohdeargodwhy · 1 year
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Ted being attracted to men in Seasons 1 and 2 of Ted Lasso
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trentlassos · 5 months
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Look. I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying.
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ughhhdavid · 11 months
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When you're trying to be so subversive that instead of pairing your main male character with either a strong, rich, tall, self-sufficient, divorced, middle aged girlboss who would make a wonderful step-mother to his child, or a divorced gay man who came out in his 40s, with a daughter, with whom he could have created an amazing blended family, and would have made the main character bisexual, which would have been ground breaking, you made him go back to his suburban nuclear family home, ambiguously get back together with a woman that didn't truly love him for who he was and giving up his entire life outside of them, and ended up upholding traditional American values about what a family should look like.
Oh, and the woman also ends up with a nuclear family while the gay man ends up alone, shown to have nothing in his life other than his work.
But sure, pat yourselves on the back for not making the 2 leads get together!!! Or not making a rom-com ending because this "ain't that type of show"!!! It was so amazing and revolutionary!!!!!!
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hexiewrites · 1 year
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on romcommunism, bisexual ted lasso, and the mumford-and-sons of it all
TLDR: this ENTIRE SHOW is about subverting expectations, expecting one thing and ending up with another, trying and trying and trying and ending up with something you never expected but is exactly what you need.
I've been thinking about this a lot, especially in regards to the amsterdamn episode which I think is the show finally 'coming out of the dark forest' so to speak, so I wanted to revisit the romcommunism speech and how it interacts with the theme song and with the other mumford references I see throughout the show, and why I think it points to a possibility of bi!ted, or at least, of a ted ending entirely different than what the majority is expecting it to be.
first off, as a reminder, the rom-communism speech from season 2 episode 5:
"If all those attractive people ... can go through some light-hearted struggles and still end up happy, then so can we. (...) Gentleman, believing in Rom-Communism is all about believing that everything's gonna work out in the end. Now these next few months might be tricky. But that's just 'cause we're going through our dark forest. Fairytales do not start, nor do they end, in the dark forest. That's something that only shows up smack dab in the middle of a story. But it will all work out. Now it may not work out how you think it will, or how you hope it does, but believe me. It will all work out. Exactly as it's supposed to. Our job is to have zero expectations, and just let go."
I've highlighted one of the most important parts of this speech for my analysis here, because when @stevecarrington and I were discussing it they pointed out where that sentiment comes into ted lasso again and again and again:
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sound familiar? yup! it's right out of the theme song itself.
I have a lot of feelings about the theme song in general, but specifically the fact that it's... it's not exactly a sitcomedy theme. it's not actually a hopeful song on first read through, but it also kind of is. because one of the unfortunate and inexplicable truths in life is that it's pretty much assured that you might not get what you want, but, as the rolling stones and the season 3 trailer itself tell us, you can't always get what you want, but if you try some time you just might find you get what you need
I'm viewing this very much from a point of, Ted is going to find what he needs this season. he doesn't know yet what that is (winning the whole damn thing? moving back to his son?) but it's our job as the viewers to have no expectations, to not assume that things are going to work out in any specific way but that they will work out. and that you're going to keep trying, you're not going to know what to expect, and what you end up with may be something entirely different than what you thought when it started.
(kind of like having a giant bi awakening, no?)
I also have a lot of personal feelings about mumford and sons (and marcus mumford's) influences on ted lasso. I've started writing that post a hundred times but it's kind of a mess so I haven't posted anything (in the meantime, go watch the hopeless wanderer video, which exists because jason sudeikis is a close friend of marcus mumfords), but the one I come back to over and over is the song believe, and how the lyrics fit so perfectly into this romcommunism concept to the point that I think the entire central theme of the show is built off of mumford&sons lyrics:
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and again. this drags it home so hard for me, on all of this. I could do a literal dissertation on what I think are other major mumford and sons influences on the show but this post isn't that. instead, I just want you to think about how the believe lyrics fit in with everything we're seeing. "your world's not all it seems" <- ted is not all he seems. he doesn't know if he believes yet, he needs someone who can "open up [his] eyes, tell [him he's] alive" and it needs to be someone who communicates openly, who talks to him
ted doesn't yet know if he believes. and he might not get what he wants (his marriage to be fixed, an easy relationship, an ending where everything is perfect), but he is going to get what he needs. he is going to try, and try, and we as the audience will go in with zero expectations and trust that it is going to work out.
I think different people will read this differently, but to me, it's a great subversion of the obvious idea that ted and rebecca are going to end up together. the cast has already said again and again that people seem to expect tedbecca to be A Thing, partially because they're both attractive, or they're both leads, because romcoms have trained us to expect this. ted is in a lot of ways some of what rebecca has been in need of, and there are some great posts about rebecca as the rom com heroine and what that means for her arc. but for me, the writers and cast saying that their relationship is strictly platonic, that they're brother and sister, is an excellent example of 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try you get what you need'. they might have some thoughts, they might start to think they'd be right for each other, and they are, but not in the way we might be primed to expect.
what ted and rebecca both NEED in each other is that confident. that platonic love and support that they're both craving in a lot of ways. sure, ted has some of that with beard, and rebecca has some of it with keeley. but their relationship, their connection, is so powerful to me from a platonic place, and this season is going to show them that's what they need from each other and always have.
and what ted needs is someone who can open up his eyes, who can, as mumford say in "white blank page" (which is also a very ted coded song):
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he needs someone who can lead him to the truth.
perhaps... someone we might not expect? someone who built his career on finding the truth, and who destroyed it to do just that, to give ted the truth even at the cost of his job and the life he had built?
perhaps now that we've come out of this dark forest, we're going to start to see those expectations shifting, and we're going to see ted get exactly what he needs, even if he doesn't yet know what he wants.
(I want to be clear that I think you can also view this very strongly from the angle of 'ted does not need to end the show in a romantic relationship, he just needs to surround himself with love and truth and platonic support' and truly I think that's more likely to be what we actually see. I just couldn't help the tedtrent implications slipping in a little at the end here.)
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danadaria · 11 months
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There are two rivers.
One river has Trent Crimm head over heels with Ted Lasso. He'll be forever thankful with the coach because he helped him to live the life he wanted after so many years of shame, anger, and fear.
And there's this other river, divorced Ted Lasso who slowly starts to get over his ex-wife. Ted who talks about handsome men so much, he's sensitive and who had the epiphany of his life under the bisexual light.
There are two rivers.
And I think these two rivers that go on parallel, should meet and run in the same direction, together.
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koakshawaii · 11 months
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Ted: *monkey noises*
Trent: *gay thoughts*
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trentcrimmisgay · 11 months
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i am a bi ted truther in my BONES and they did nothing but fan the flames of that fire this week. once again.
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sunwarmed-ash · 11 months
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Happy Pride!!
Trent 100% had a crush on Ted, James said so.
The KJR polycule is inevitable, once the boys get their act together.
Colin got to kiss his fella and we all fucking cheered!
Trent Crimm, OUT was everything we deserved and more
Dani and his two girlfriends are still happy and together and I just think they are neat
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v0idwraith · 1 year
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if we do end up getting bisexual ted, i want his coming out to be him casually mentioning his sexuality and then getting confused when people are surprised because he forgot that he hadn’t come out yet
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"its like american football and wrestling gave birth to a baby with huge muscular thighs all caked in mud." .......................ted
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ohdeargodwhy · 11 months
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Anyway the throwaway line i'm hyperfixating on this episode is the reference to freddie mercury 'flipping straights'
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ughhhdavid · 11 months
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A kinda long analysis of some scenes in The Sound Of Music in relation to the Ted Lasso finale, TedTrent, and Ted's bisexuality ahead.
Since they decided to name the finale as a reference to The Sound Of Music, and perform a song from it as well, I've decided to look into it. After all, Ted has always been pretty similar to Maria. They're both enthusiastic, positive, they come into this family's life, and, while uptight and closed off at first, it eventually warms up to them. They both help their new family become better.
And then they leave.
Why?
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They both say it's because they miss their old lives. But Maria actually leaves because she has developed feelings for the Captain. Meanwhile I think Ted missing his family at home is genuine. (However, he had a chance to have both his Richmond family and his Kansas family at the same time. And there's some debate of the reason he didn't want that)
In The Sound Of Music, we get glimpses into Maria's life after going back.
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Sound familiar?
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All these shots of people he loves who you think would want him there. Even his own best friend's wedding. And where is Ted? Why is he missing these moments? Why is he so isolated?
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Uhm... Hello???? If there's one way to describe Ted's face in this scene, it's this.
Now this is where Ted's story ends. But Maria's continues, having a very intense conversation with Mother Abbess about feelings you've never felt before, having something deep inside you that you can't face, being confused, and not wanting to betray God. This seems very queer coded to me.
On the other hand, she thinks that she is only in servitude of God, and accepting the Captain's love would be distracting her from her mission as a nun. To which Mother says, that just because she loves The Captain, that doesn't mean she loves God less.
Now that got me thinking about Ted, and the way he left everything behind, and the way he rejected everyone's love for him, and the way he seemed to think that was the right thing to do in order to fully love and be there for Henry.
But Ted was a great father, even in London, and he didn't need to sacrifice all other things he loved for him. (Of course, parents would sacrifice everything for their kids, I'm just saying Ted didn't have to).
Loving Richmond didn't mean he loved Henry less.
Mother Reverend also says this:
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Which reminds me of what Trent said earlier in the episode:
"I don't think we change, per say, as much as we learn to accept who we've always been"
Next she sings the song "Climb Every Mountain",which finally convinces Maria to go back. Here are some of the lyrics:
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Which, first of all. Rainbow??? Ok.
Like the rainbow in Ted's hallucination? Like the bi flag in that same hallucination that helped him get unstuck and get as close to achieving his dream as he could, with Total Football.
Secondly, this reminds me of Ted on the plane, doubting himself. Thinking about how they could've won the whole fucking thing. And later, the lyrics from "Father and Son" that play while Ted looks at the snowglobe.
"For you will still be here tomorrow
But your dreams may not"
How are we supposed to interpret this if not that Ted is abandoning his dream,Richmond?
And that someone needs to make him realize his dreams are important, too?
Next, Maria comes back and greets the Captain in an interaction that reminded me a lot of Ted and Trent.
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And then the captain says this:
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Which is a criticism I heard a lot about the finale. The entirety of AFC Richmond said goodbye to Ted in big ways, and small ways, but he never said a proper goodbye to any of them. A proper, heartfelt goodbye in which he said something substantial, anything that anyone deserved to hear from him, after spending the past 3 years loving him, being by his side and believing in him.
With Maria returned, The Captain breaks up his engagement to The Baroness.
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He says he has been dishonest. He has hidden his feelings and he can't hide them anymore. Reminded me of Trent, saying he had to come out to his wife 2 times before her believing. Trent, hiding his real feelings from a woman he couldn't love the way she wanted him to.
To which the Baroness gets defensive and acts like she's the one who wants to break up. That she doesn't think he's the right man for her.
Why?
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I laughed out loud when she said this, ngl.
Next, The Captain talks to Maria in the garden about her plans to leave again soon.
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Again, reminiscent of Keeley and Rebecca asking Ted to change his mind, and stay. And the book Ted is holding on the plane "How to Change Your Mind: The New Science Of Psychadelics".
The part where he says "it will be all wrong again after you leave". Let's talk about that. Because as Ted leaves, Roy and Jamie throw away years of development and go back to their old dynamic. Nate is a kit man again. So much regression. Beard, going home to an abusive girlfriend. And Ted, who was learning to break free from society's idea of what a family should look like, Ted, who wanted to be free and fluid, going back into those boxes.
For these characters, it's like the show was folded in half,to get the beginning and the end to touch. For them, it's like starting from zero. It's like everything they've been through has been for nothing. (Roy even specifically calls this out).
Back The Sound of Music, Maria and The Captain finally confess their feelings to each other.
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Are you kidding me? A whistle? You mean like coaches have?
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Anyway, this is all the parallels and things I've found interesting while watching this part in The Sound Of Music. I could go on for longer, but this movie is 3 hours long of scenes that remind me of Ted.
"Yeah, it might be all that you get
Yeah, I guess this might well be it."
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danadaria · 1 year
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Beard's bi agenda
DISCLAIMER: I'm writing this with my full clown make-up on, and the tin hat well on my head. Ok? Ok.
After the delight that was "The Strings That Bind Us", one of the only things left me incredulous was the pegging scene.
Let's face it.
Beard is a man of many lives and there's no way he hasn't been pegged before. Ok, he might. But it sounds out of character. Sounds like something he definitely has tried before.
So. Why bringing it? (besides the rational reason, it's just a hilarious scene, but we're not doing rational here)
Knowing Ted's motto "Be curious, not judgmental" (bi curious, god), Beard could share this bit of information and see how it landed. And Ted's answer? "Wait, what magazines?"
And yes. This may be a circumstantial and random conversation between two friends, but I can't help connect it to another random Beard's info:
“Please tell Jane I say hello" 
“ I would but she stills find our relationship threatening" 
*SCREAMING*
And don't let me start about this conversation being in front of the canon gay man™. (Beard ships them)
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Anyway, at this rate Higgins will become the token straight.
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siobhans-roy · 1 year
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#GOOD FOR HIM!!!
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failbaby · 11 months
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three cheers for ambiguous bisexuality
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