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satsuha · 3 months

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hi!! correct me if i’m wrong but you played octopath traveller 2 in japanese, right? if so then you might be able to clear up some confusion for me and if i am mistaken then i at least wanna hear your opinion. i’m a fellow hikari/temenos (hikanos? temehika? whatever people call it) shipper!! i love their dynamic. just putting that out there so you know where i’m coming from.

i don’t really like the hikari/agnea ship. i just don’t like the idea of pushing them as a romantic couple just because they have a shared story (which barely even supported them being a thing in the first place imo) and i find the idea of them being supportive friends so much more sweet.

you know that travel banter in agnea’s chapter 2, the one where hikari calls her dances hot? everyone seems to interpret that as romantic and it’s constantly written as a scene that pushes their relationship in that direction. i just don’t get it? because to me that scene felt like a very obvious demonstration of “hikari is awkward socially and he’s just copying what someone else said because he can tell it’s a nice compliment when coming from that person and wants to imitate it”. i don’t know if it’s just the fact that i’m aromantic and autistic so i prefer to put neurodivergent meanings to these things but that was so clearly what it was to me. and then everyone made it romantic? idk i just hate that, i feel like it takes so much away from both of their characters to force a relationship from that.

i’m wondering if it’s a translation thing. does it read as a more romantic interaction in japanese? if so then i’m far more willing to accept it. but if not then i’m just so confused about this and i wish people would talk more about hikari being a neurodivergent icon (also hikari/temenos is sooo underappreciated it makes me so sad so maybe i’m just biased idk)

sorry this was super long i hope you’re okay with me rambling like this!! if not feel free to ignore it

hi thanks for the ask! and i'm happy to see a fellow temehika enjoyer 🥺

i need to preface this with the fact that i don't have a japanese education, and though i have picked up on things on social media and such, i could definitely still get things wrong! with that being said, here's my take on it under the cut:

anyway yes! i played octopath2 with japanese voice, and am now replaying it in korean text (has a vocabulary and is grammatically similar to japanese, and a language i can actually understand)! i also cross-check a lot of stuff with the original japanese text, so i did that for the banter you're mentioning just to make sure.

funnily enough, the japanese actually pushes it in the opposite direction... gil uses the english word "hot" in his speech, hence hikari's (and agnea's, initially) confusion at it since it isn't a word that exists in the japanese language. and as far as i can find, "hot" (the english loanword) doesn't have the same connotations as english of being "sexy". the sources i can find online list "new, trendy", "spicy or hot (food/drink)" and "intense" as definitions, but i can't find anything that matches the common english interpretation.

in gil's case, i would say he's either going for the "intense" or "popular, trendy" definition, and given that he treats agnea like a kid (literally calling her "kid" in english and "嬢ちゃん" in japanese, something like "little lady"), i don't think his intent was romantically or sexually charged when he used the word to refer to her.

(sources: weblio and goo)

now, you've probably seen that i'm biased against this ship as well so there's that to keep in mind but... yeah, in my opinion this was absolutely not supposed to be a romantic thing, and while i can't fully speak on the localization's decision to just keep the word "hot" as is, it bothers me that they either failed to realize or were trying to push the added connotation in english.

at the same time, i know a lot of english fans tend to not care about the original text at all and the localization is meant to work as a replacement for it if you don't know the original language, so i can't completely fault people for taking it that way... unfortunately i am a nitpicker and also a translation nerd and in this case i blame the english version for having that added nuance which did not help!

also i complained about this enough elsewhere but none of their later banters have any kind of interesting topic that tells you more about either of the characters so i don't even think this one works as a turning point for their relationship ...

but yeah anyway again, thanks for the ask! i don't always feel very comfy with analyzing japanese since i don't actually speak it, but unfortunately there isn't anyone else doing this kind of comparison so... i'm always happy to answer and look into it if anyone is curious about anything!!

#answered #anonymous #and i love rambly asks dw about it at all 🫶#ship hate

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krismatic · 3 years

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I'm gonna be predictable here but Mitsuru and Felix for the character ask?

Oh boy here we go. I wrote a lot.

Mitsuru

Sexuality Headcannon: Aromantic Lesbian 😌

Gender Headcannon: She’s trans and that’s a fact

A ship I have with said character: Yukamitsu!!! I shipped them before I found your blog but not a ton, but after seeing your posts I just 💖💖💖💖💖... I care them. Also! YukaMitsuHam and MitsuHam!

A BROTP I have with said character: The Senpai trio... they’ve been through a lot but they all care for each other so much, even if they don’t show it that well sometimes lmao. Also Mitsuru and Fuuka! Just Mitsuru being a mom friend and Fuuka helping her with tech stuff. They both have a lot of pressure placed on them too- Mitsuru’s the leader of SEES and the heir to the Kirijo group, and Fuuka’s always been pressured to be a doctor and always get perfect grades... they both have a pressure to be perfect pretty much, but while Mitsuru uses that pressure to keep moving forward, Fuuka just tries to forget about it and live her life the best way she can, if that makes any sense. Okay that was a whole rant WHOOPS but anyways I love their dynamic

A NOTP I have with said character: Men lmao but especially Akihiko and Shinji

A random headcannon: She’s got visible muscles/abs and scars, and that is very sexy of her /hj

General opinion over said character: She!!! I love her and her whole character arc in the game... she really learns how to trust and rely on other people (especially Yukari). Also I’ve always loved her design a ton, and her outfits are always really good!!! Like the beach one, her arena outfit, all that.

Felix

Sexuality Headcannon: Bisexual 💜💖💙 and Ace

Gender Headcannon: He is trans!!! I’ve had this hc for so long and just. He is trans.

A ship I have with said character: Sylvix!!! That’s a popular one but I love it (and the angst if you recruit one but not the other OUCH) Dimilix is also good but I prefer them as very close friends (friends doesn’t seem like the right word though, they’re closer than that) than as romantic partners tbh

A BROTP I have with said character: Felix and Annette!!! I cannot see them together romantically at all but as friends? Heck yeah. Also Felix & Sylvain & Ingrid & Dimitri childhood friends quartet is amazing. I love it. Also Felix & Ashe and Felix & Leonie!!! Their supports were really good! And finally Dimitri & Felix... they’ve been through A LOT (which you’ll find out in their supports hehe >:)) and there is so. much. angst. But beneath all their struggles and conflicts with each other they truly do care about each other so so much.

A NOTP I have with said character: Felix x Annette... no. They’ve always seemed to have more like a reluctant older brother/energetic younger sister dynamic to me. Same with Felix x Bernadetta and Felix x Lysithea... also Felix x Ingrid is BIG no.

A random headcannon: He takes care of the cats at the monastery!! In secret pre-time skip and he’d get all embarrassed about it. But I think post-time skip he just wouldn’t care. He, Ashe, and Caspar taking care of cats together is goals. Also he definitely uses double swords in combat even though the game doesn’t allow it lmao.

General opinion over said character: oh boy. He’s my second favourite character in the entire game. He’s such a complex character and he’s not “just a tsundere” and he has very understandable (and relatable whoops) reasons for being so closed off to other people. And I’ve mentioned this twice already but his relationship with Dimitri is so good and written so well. He’s the only person that argues directly against Dimitri’s decisions and that makes him stand out so much. But he still cares!!! A ton!!! About his friends and his loved ones and he doesn’t want them to be hurt or killed, despite what he says. And he changes so much depending on what route you’re playing and some of the dialogue hurts so much... (for example, there’s this dialogue on Verdant Wind and Silver Snow where he’s like “could I have saved/helped Dimitri?” and it HURTS) Anyways. Uhhh that’s all.

#I ended up writing a ton for Felix WHOOPS #it’s the hyperfixation #kanako answers

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