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#anyway what was that kaworu homura thing
kraniumet · 1 year
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I do 100% think it is always correct to accept the queer reading with tranquil certainty and conviction, secure in that, even if the person writing the story didn't exactly know what they were doing, it felt right to them. Not second guessing it or insecurely ironizing over it. But sometimes the takeaway is just- and this is not exclusive to (more mainstream) stories with queer themes, but it feels common there: This choice was either over-thought or cowardly. I don't feel "mislead" per se but there's a level of: What was this leading to? What was your red thread? What were you trying to say? The story got too big and this was your way out? There is no conviction. It feels like a compromise that panders to a group I am not part of. It feels like an overcorrection. Things can be unsatisfying and bittersweet in a way that works, AND in a way that feels like a cop-out. Stream one last kiss.
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rivalcobalt · 1 year
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okay I love reading your posts about ryo expies because it's such a fun topic, so i have to know: out of the main ones (like kaworu, joshua, komaeda etc) how do you think ryo himself would react to them? or alternatively, who's the favorite child
Okay first things first ((*lying on my bed with my face in a pillow kicking my legs in the air*))
Anyways
Hmm… This is kind of tough, because I feel like Ryo's opinions on a lot of them would differ depending on when in the story we're talking about. Like, I think amnesiac-Ryo would probably gravitate towards the kinder expies and would be more quick to criticize their actions, and Ryo with all his Satan memories but before wiping out humanity and killing Akira would refer the more cynical ones willing to take extreme action for their convictions. Post-OG ending Ryo would probably fall somewhere around the midpoint, having come to realize how he lost sight of his initial compassion and the kindness that drew him to Akira, but also understanding why someone could end up doing things like that.
There's also the question of whether you interpret Ryo's favourite trait as kindness, devotion to goals no matter the cost, or the entertainment value of being unhinged. It probably depends on his moods, really. This is all very subjective, so I don't think there's a single right answer.
Kaworu:
I think at all points Ryo would like how easily he empathizes with others, and that he has the balls to just be flat out incredibly gay with Shinji. He would probably would find him overly idealistic about humanity when he has his memories as Satan and hasn't killed Akira yet, but would come around to appreciate that again the way he would have during amnesiac-Ryo times. Could definitely be amnesiac-Ryo's favourite before demons show up. Kinda has the least objectionable traits of any Ryo and has this aura about him that makes you either want to be around him or want to be him, which I don't think Ryo would be immune to.
Joshua:
Loves him and find him hilarious for his shithead behaviour. I think he's the expy that comes the closest to Ryo's actions with the least consequences, since he's kind of able to fix almost everything pretty seamlessly, so Ryo might be envious of that. All of the fussy Ryos would probably be critical of each other's fussiness, Ryo @ Joshua included, but the fun of hanging out with him when he's getting up to shit outweighs it.
Komaeda:
He retains the kind of unhinged messy anxiety freakout 24/7 moments that amnesiac Ryo has more than any other expy I know of, which... I think Ryo would sympathize with enough for it to not be too hard to deal with? I definitely do think he'd like Komaeda in theory, but I'm not sure how them interacting would actually go. He's probably way better at deductions and elaborate schemes than Ryo himself actually is, and willing to just Do Shit, so I think he'd like him for that, but the hope/despair luck cycles can be... difficult to deal with irl when you're just trying to chill.
Homura:
Beloved rare daughter. Honestly, she has probably the overall coolest aura of any expy, especially in a lesbian goth way (which is, like, bonus points). I feel like she's what amnesiac post-demon-knowledge Ryo wants to be like but as a twink. Definitely likes her determination to save Madoka and the lengths she's willing to go for it, including understanding her actions in Rebellion. I think he'd like her a lot, but idk if I can really see them, like, hanging out casually much.
Akechi: (Had mixed responses on if Akechi was major or not, but at the very least p5 is popular enough rn that I felt I should include him.)
Probably one of the ones he has more mixed feelings on. Ryo would find his Prince persona grating for how fake and good boy it is, but when he's being a snippy bitch and enjoying killing shadows or whatever? Hell yeah. Go crazy go stupid. Might get on Ryo's nerves when he's being particularly fussy and cynical though, because I don't think Ryo really enjoys that in company. He particularly sees himself in Goro's sense of what carrying out "justice" looks like and the lengths he'd go to to get revenge on his piece of shit father, but I don't think he'd approve of Goro carrying out hits for Shido for so long as part of his plan instead of opposing him outright.
Bakura: Okay so I'm not actually qualified to answer this since I've only seen ygo s0 and I haven't gotten around to reading the manga yet, so in my stead here's opinions from @firstproqenitor and @mochiies. Fuck you Mikael for being funnier than all of us.
[Mikael]: okay so the problem is that yami bakura doesnt really have any sense of morality, so he and yami bakura wouldnt really get along well. I think they would stare at eachother, ryo in like a quiet contemplation as he takes a drag off a cigarette and yami bakura just having a shit eating grin. Ryo notices that Bakura is dressed eerily like he is, before yami bakura blurts out something about how if they formed an alliance they could destroy the world, and ryo blows smoke in his face, returns the shit eating grin, then says something like "you know what your problem is? you lack subtlety" and then turns and leaves. (i think part of the joke is that ryo also is not subtle at all)
[Mikael]: ok it might be funnier if ryo like speeds away in his car at the end or something
[Mikael]: and then bakura would have like slashed his tires
[Amber]: i agree with that lmao
[Amber]: i do think that as satan, ryo would understand bakura but also not entirely agree with the direction hes going in (maybe)
[Amber]: esp bc ( sorta spoilers for the last arc of ygo) || yami bakuras actions are very fueled by trauma and the need for revenge, plus he's also merged his soul with a god born from hatred, which is why current bakura that possesses ryou in the present acts like that lmao ||
[Amber]: i have feelings for how bakuras back story is handled but im not gonna get into that lmao
As for who Ryo's least favourite is, I think it'd be Light, hands-down. There isn't really anything about him Ryo would like: a cop, a prep, spoiled by lifelong privilege, uncritically accepts the societal rules he's been fed and furthers them in the most extreme way possible, and let's be real, he's not as smart as he thinks he is. That said, he is very fun to bully. I don't think Ryo would be very fond of the expies that cross the line into things like sexual assault and grooming either, though.
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jyfrnd · 3 years
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No because Kaworu really was prepared to continue sacrificing himself for Shinji...
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minusram · 7 years
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3, 4, 16
3. list your fandoms and one character from each that you identify with.
oh holy hell. okay.
mp100 (obviously….); i guess if i had to choose i might say the shining star of the 21st C, mr arataka reigen himself. or maybe mob
but… i don’t really identify with characters? they are always entirely separate from myself in my head. i have FAVOURITES, no question, but none of them are really ‘me’. i enjoy them because they aren’t, actually.
when i use fiction as a coping mechanism i just sort of divorce myself from my actual life and inhabit a voyeuristic space where what happens doesn’t touch me except by proxy. i have emotional reactions to their stories because i care about them, not because i see myself in their place.
so i guess if i identify with anyone, it’s ???% (i know, edgy)
but as a consolation prize….. drumroll please….. an incomplete list of faves from some of my many OTHER fandoms…… (see if you can spot any patterns haha)
tmnt;donnie / IZ;dib / baman piderman;pumkin / naruto;sakura or itachi / futurama;kif / discworld;either His Grace the Duke of Ankh or rincewind / nge;kaworu / pmmm;homura / south park;kenny / khr;gokudera / avatar;sokka or katara / oots;vaarsuvius / 3cornetto;hot fuzz / pnf;perry / friends;chandler / lsoh;seymour / cybersix;cybersix / homestuck;karkat / star trek;spock / oofuri;mihashi / 
4. do you like your name?  is there another name you think would fit you better?
i do really like my name! irl, anyway. but it is extraordinarily gendered, so i don’t really want to use it on the internet, because the name is like… practically the first impression you get online. i am still working on figuring out a name that is not so gendered. but my irl name is great, it’s long so there are lots of ways to turn it into nicknames. i mean if you know my name you can call me that, as long as you do so with the understanding that it refers to a genderless being. but idk, introducing myself that way on here feels ooky
16. if you’d grown up in a different environment, do you think you’d have turned out the same?
not even close, probably. i mean, i suppose some things would be the same, but i’m a big proponent of NURTURE over (nature), although both do have their influence
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