there is a painful lack of Caspeter everywhere, so I'm posting this thing I made for my Instagram on here.

(Yes, it's a Song of Achilles quote. Yes, the book made me cry)

Caspeter is the BLUEPRINT, y'all. Enemies to reluctant allies to battle comrades to friends to lovers. They've got it ALL.

Also- I do nOt ship Casmund- pedophilic ass ship. A literal child/minor with a whole grown man. Some of y'all take your shipping too far istg. Why can't you focus on ships WITHOUT a disgusting age difference?

"definetely not mature enough" edmund was literally 25 when he went back to england? he is trapped in a body fifteen years younger than he actually is? how is he not mature

Oof we wanna go there, huh. Very original. I’ve been sent this about 3 times in the past.

1. It’s been stated many times and shown that the Pevensies revert to their child selves in England. Like. They straight up act like kids. How can y’all not see this?

2. So you think 25 year old Edmund should be dating a 16-17 year old???? No better, fam.

Like. I’m really tired of this argument, also if you’re going to be so rude about this, do it publically. The person last night who asked genuine questions and was polite is more than welcome here using anon any time, but if you’re gonna be mean I think you should use your name and reputation.

did something happen in the narnia fandom?

*long drawn out sigh* Oh boy anon, where have you been for the last month?

So much has happened that I don’t know where to start tbh. The Narnia fandom has become one of the most toxic fandoms I’ve ever had the experience of being in so far. Like the lack of support for diverse content is just so tiring. 

Here’s what I know has happened so far:-I don’t know the whole issue but apparently some fans tried to argue that Lucian (Lucy & Caspian) was an okay ship?? You’d need to ask someone else about this because I didn’t know about this issue until after it was pretty much done.

-There was an issue with some members in the NarniaNetwork because they were supporting/trying to push their racist and anti LGBT+ views over others diverse views so, as a result, those members were removed. I won’t talk more on that issue because as the admin and creator of that network I made the decision to only inform Narnianetwork members if they wanted to know more.  It’s not for non-narnianetwork members to hear about because frankly it’s none of your business. I won’t mention any names even though I know some of the individuals have made posts themselves on the issue. I’m only saying this because I’m not going to lie and say Narnianetwork was perfect at that time.

-A couple days later there was a Narnia fan who sent the narniaconfession blog a confession saying “the Narnia fandom need to stop forcing diversity”. Do you have any idea how hard it would be for any non-white and/or LGBT+ narnia fan to hear how our interpretations and head canons are INVALID?? Because, let me tell you, I’m so tired of pandering and trying to keep the white-and/or-straight-only narnia fans happy. When we non-white and/or LGBT+ fans create such edits, we are not doing it for the white and/or straight only community. WE ARE CREATING THIS CONTENT FOR OURSELVES. Also with this confession, I know some people tried to argue that having people focus on LGBT+ head canons of the Pevensies and other characters was wrong because different sexualities/LGBT+ views like that had no place in a children’s series but at the same time those people that argued against having different sexualities in the series were still okay with shipping characters in a heterosexual relationship. The ship in question is Suspian (Susan & Caspian) and, despite me being a Suspian shipper, I still feel like it’s extremely wrong where people only acknowledge them as a possible ship and disregard other sexualities/relationships. Like seriously, do you understand how bad of an ideal that is to spread? That children aren’t able to be any different sexuality than straight. And the other harmful thing about this was that this ideal immediately tries to imply that every LGBT+ head canon is inherently sexual when that is a complete lie. There was just so much wrong to that confession that there was a huge uproar of anger from the diverse Narnia fans for a good reason.

-I know that another Narnia fan posted their OWN head canons and interpretations about the characters. And because they weren’t what the straight and/or white fans wanted, SOME ABSOLUTE DISGUSTING JERK decided to send that fan in question RACIAL SLURS in their ask box anonymously. Like what the fuck?? This person has to live with the knowledge, for the rest of their life, that they did this disgusting thing. 

-I know that there’s Casmund (Caspian & Edmund) shipping discourse but I don’t really know what’s going on for that so you’d probably be better off asking someone else.

-And the latest issue that has risen up in the Narnia fandom is that the fandom don’t really appreciate the amount of time and effort creators put into their content. Instead these content creators get bashed on in the tags because the person who reblogs the content doesn’t like what they see, conveniently ignoring the whole “just ignore the post/block it if you don’t like it’ ideology in favour of saying how the creator of said content is clearly wrong and the reblog-ee is right. The other problem for content creators is the clear unevenness in the ratio of likes vs. reblogs. I.e. when a person makes an edit and gets 50 notes on their edit, the ratio looks something like “43 likes, 7 reblogs”. This is a huge problem for content creators not just in the Narnia fandom!! It’s happening in every fandom and the issue is some of these creators may depend on followers to get their content out past just circle the creator has.

-Also, I know another Narnia fan who was prominent because of their creations left the fandom as well because of the toxicity of the fandom. 

To end this off I’m going to say this once: I have not and will not be revealing names even if you come off anon and ask me directly. I’ve been very firm on this stance even amongst the NarniaNetwork discourse when it was occurring and I will remain firm on this stance for other discussions that had nothing to do with the NarniaNetwork.

This got really long but that’s what I know has happened/is currently happening in the fandom. I obviously don’t know everything that’s occurred on those topics, like I’ve said, so in those cases where I don’t know what’s going on you should definitely ask someone else who does because I don’t want to be giving you the wrong information on those topics.

TLDR: the Narnia fandom is an extremely toxic fandom to be in currently specifically if you are a POC and/or a member of the LGBT+ community. This fandom has isolated and/or driven away a lot of POC and LGBT+ members because of the lack of support for their diverse interpretations of the series.

I don't mean to be pushy, I'm curious is all; is movie c*smund better? I thought they were maybe a fee years apart, like ed was 18 and casp was maybe 21? I've never been a book fan so I jus curious about ur opinion of the movie based ships

Edmund is 16, possibly close to 17, in VOTDT and while we don’t know his exact age, Caspian is at least 5 or 6 years older. Ben Barnes was in his later 20s when he played Caspian in VOTDT.

Having 16 year old friends who are definitely NOT mature enough to date someone in their 20s, and knowing two people who got into relationships at 16 with people considerably older than them and seeing how bad it messed them up, I can’t get behind either version at all.

Why I feel uncomfortable with casmund as a romantic ship

I want to start by saying I understand why younger queer people could see themselves in one of these characters and want to see themselves represented by these two. I don’t judge younger queer folks who feel this way, because I understand where that comes from.

I don’t feel comfortable with Caspian and Edmund as a ship for the same reason I feel uncomfortable with Lucy and Caspian as a ship, the age gap is too wide. A relationship between a minor and an adult is not a good thing. A relationship between a 12 year old and a 16 year old is also not good. That’s not healthy.

I’m 18 and no way in h*** would I date a 14 year old. That’s so, so wrong on so many levels. When I was 17, I wouldn’t have dated a 13 year old. When I was 16, not a chance I’d date a 12 year old.

I just can’t condone a relationship with such an unhealthy and unequal power structure. It’s just not a good thing to be promoting.

Why are you so against C*smund?

Here’s a post detailing why

To clarify, I don’t think everyone who ships it is a Terrible Person, I just think it’s a really bad ship and people unfortunately ignore that.