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frozenpinetree · 9 months

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“What suits you best is passionate red. The colour of lycoris that blazes the earth.”

#black butler #kuroshitsuji #ciel phantomhive #madame red #angelina durless #my art

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midnight-in-town · 7 months

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Let's talk about the "Fenian brotherhood" theory !! :D

Firstly, in case you don't know about it, please go read the theory that our!Ciel's birth name might be Fenian/Fionn/Finnian by @azuresins. It is incredibly relevant to what I'm about to explain next !

TBH, I don't really care about discovering our!Ciel's birth name. However, I truly enjoy this theory and I think it makes a lot of sense, because I absolutely agree with the idea of Vincent supporting (secretly or not) Irish independence, turning him into a political enemy of Queen Victoria...

...which could be very much why he ended up dead.

This theory comes from a private convo with my friend, @dorkshadows and I'll sum up their thoughts (and some of mine) below the cut !

First of all, while we think Claudia, Vincent's predecessor, may have been a personal enemy of Victoria because of whatever happened when Albert died in 1861, Vincent strikes us more as a political enemy precisely because of Brown's comment in ch108.

After all, if our!Ciel, who just managed to thwart their plans of getting the sulin gas, is "more like his father everyday", then it makes sense that Vincent "got in the way" of some of Victoria & JB's war/political plans too. >_>

Now, about the Fenian Cycle book: it was an important symbol for Irish independence and the Fenian Brotherhood that started in the 19th century before it got dissolved in 1880. To quote Wikipedia:

"The Fenian Brotherhood traced their origins back to 1790s, in the rebellion, seeking an end to British rule in Ireland initially for self-government and then the establishment of an Irish Republic. The rebellion was suppressed, but the principles of the United Irishmen were to have a powerful influence on the course of Irish history."

But how would Vincent even get involved with it and why?

In the theory that OC's name is Fenian/Finnian, @azuresins mentioned that maybe it's all related to Cedric K. Ros having Celtic origins. Since we do have one sketch by Yana of one twin bringing the Fenian Cycle book to the Undertaker (the most likely candidate for Cedric K. Ros)...

...it might indeed be a partial answer.

There is another possibility though, entirely thought by @dorkshadows, which is that Rachel (and Ann) might have been of Irish origins too.

After all, a common stereotype for Irish people in many stories is red hair and it's hard to forget that it was a very distinctive characteristic of Ann, Rachel's sister !

In fact, one of their first interactions is Vincent telling Ann to be proud of that hair, which we were told she inherited from her dad, the twins' maternal grandfather.

So Vincent might have not just been talking about Ann's hair color in that scene, but more specifically about her taking more pride in her Irish origins. Obviously though, Dalles/Durless aren't very Irish names, but it is possible that their original family name got anglicized into a more traditionally English name.

In any case, Vincent met Rachel and Ann after already knowing their father :

So it's possible that Vincent was, as the Watchdog, investigating Lord Durless as a nobleman with Irish lineage and possible ally of the Fenian Brotherhood. After all, to quote this article, "the Fenians in England and the British Empire were a major threat to political stability". Then Vincent met and fell in love with Rachel, thus deciding to support the Brotherhood instead.

I'd add that Vincent supporting such a cause simply makes sense, considering that the Phantomhive family, too, might have been burdened by the Watchdog's duty generations ago, because of their "different" lineage (full theory here). On top of that, if you add the possibility that Cedric/UT also was of Celtic origins (many decades or centuries ago) and that Vincent knew Claudia's death was Victoria's fault, it only makes sense that he'd eventually politically antagonize the Queen (both for his parents' sake and for Rachel's).

@dorkshadows also pointed out that, to this day, we don't know if the twins' maternal grandfather is alive or dead in canon : he was important enough to be mentioned in Red's flashback but has been missing from the narrative ever since. Timeline-wise, he could be dead, especially since we never saw him in the Blue Memory arc (our!Ciel's flasback), but we never know with Yana (look at Claudia being hinted in panels ever since the circus arc and probably being incredibly relevant), so it's worth keeping in mind.

Then, moving on to ch132 we know that, when the twins were born, Rachel is the one who named them.

Coincidentally (read: it's probably not a coincidence xD), ch132 had the cover with Vincent reading the Fenian Cycle book to the twins and it's also the chapter in which Vicar Rathbone casually says that one twin/both twins (it's deliberately ambiguous in Japanese) have a name that is "rare for England" :

Many fans, myself included, thought that "Ciel" was the name being discussed there, but maybe they were actually talking about our!Ciel's celtic birth name ! To quote @azuresins, in that case that'd basically mean that, in that scene above, "Vincent said to an ENGLISH PRIEST [...] that people of Celtic origin deserved freedom, and to be treated better and that it probably was soon to come".

No wonder that Vicar Rathbone would immediately change the topic lmao ! xD

Vicar Rathbone be like

It is also very meaningful that Rachel decided to give the "Fionn/Fenian/Finnian" name to our!Ciel ("the spare"), as if to emphasize that he was free to make his own path in life, as the second son, unburdened by earldom. Choosing such a meaningful name might even be a parallel to Vincent's own situation with Frances as his spare, since both also have names with a meaning relating to victory and freedom.

Another important detail, as @azuresins already explained here, is that Fenian Cycle is also a tale of revenge and that our!Ciel parallels Fionn big deal, making it all even more relevant. And maybe Yana left other hints in her artworks too...

Finally, historically the Fenian Brotherhood officially got dissolved around 1880 (the twins were 5 years old), but it's always possible that, in Kuroverse, Vincent managed to make it thrive secretly as the Watchdog. The Fenian Brotherhood caused several incidents, including after 1880 (they assassinated a British Chief Secretary in 1882), so it wouldn't be impossible that the Queen eventually found out that Vincent didn't properly take care of them, because he was supporting them.

And when she found out? Well, she branded Vincent a political enemy and we know the rest (the household was massacred in 1885 and the killer most likely received help from real!Ciel, more details in the real!Ciel mastermind theory hehe).

The idea that Vincent ultimately became a political enemy of Victoria because he fell in love with Rachel makes their death...

...even more emotional to me, since Rachel probably died trying to protect Vincent. T_T

TL;DR that's the Fenian Brotherhood theory: because they supported an Irish rebellious group that wanted freedom, Vincent & Rachel were branded political enemies of Victoria and she & JB plotted their deaths, which led in happenstance to the RCMT.

(friendly reminder that the twins are 7, when Vincent asked Dee to look after them should he die)

I hope it was clear ! Thanks for reading. :))

#kuroshitsuji #vincent phantomhive #ciel phantomhive #rachel phantomhive #angelina durless #madam red #cedric k. ros #finnian #kuro132 #fenian brotherhood theory #ciel's real name #kuroshitsuji theory #dorkshadows #my analysis #blue memory arc

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mamepato · 13 days

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Ihr Weg hm…

#black butler #kuroshitsuji #angelina durless #madam red #inspired by something i found on pinterest wait ill lokk for it

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imintobones · 9 months

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Goth Kurotypes - Two

Now I know I said I'll be separating all characters... But Lau and Ran Mao are a package deal, I can't separate these two I even made them share a style! But I won't do this again I prommy

Anywhooo, I was really excited to draw Lizzy cos she's my cutie patootie. When I was going into this project I had a select few characters who I was shaking from excitement to draw and she was one of them, and honestly, I can't say I'm disappointed with how I drew her! Especially considering the last time I have even sketched her was in like 2021....

I also took some inspo from the official art Yana did of Lau and Ran Mao in... Rave attire?? I honestly can't say, but it inspired to draw Lau in a crop top, as well as ofc, the color pallette.

Music rec of the post:

Billie Was a Vampire by Selofan

#black butler #kuroshitsuji #madame red #elizabeth midford #lizzy midford #angelina durless #ran mao #lau #my art #art #artists on tumblr #fantastic #goth #goth music #goth kurotypes

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tinykuroshitsujipics · 5 months

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#Kuroshitsuji #black butler #madam red #angelina dalles #angelina durless #chapter 6

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strawberry-macaronx · 21 days

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🥀

#my art #cute art #cute #digital art #fanart #black butler #madame red #angelina durless #black butler fanart #black butler madame red #anime art #anime

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madamemaddy · 1 year

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LETS GO LESBIANS LETS GOOOO

#i would devote everything for these two #kuroshitsuji #black butler #grelle sutcliff #grell sutcliff #angelina dalles #angelina durless #madam red #redcliff #black butler fanart #kuroshitsuji fanart #grelle x madame red #grell x madam red

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abybweisse · 10 months

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Hello! I was rereading the Jack-Ripper arc and noticed that Ciel used "the colour of lycoris that blazes the earth" just like his father did in the Madam Red's records. Since he can see grim reapers and also bore witness to Madam Red's demise, does it mean that he can see cinematic records as well?

Seeing the records?

He's had opportunities to witness cinematic records but apparently couldn't actually see them. I think he later even asks what's going on when Ronald and Grelle see what Undertaker did to alter the cinematic records of the bizarre dolls on the ship. I'll have to verify that, though.

Idk why he uses the same term used by his father.

#black butler #kuroshitsuji #earl phantomhive #our earl #vincent phantomhive #madam red #angelina dalles #angelina durless #lycoris #reaper abilities #cinematic records #anon asks #i answer #answered asks #jul 8 2023

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purpleandstarlight · 8 months

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Here, some more memes :)

#kuroshitsuji #black butler #ciel phantomhive #o!ciel #sebastian michaelis #ran mao #black butler mey rin #mey rin #grelle sutcliff #grell sutcliff #madame red #angelina durless #lizzy midford #elizabeth midford

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pop-roxs · 11 months

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i saw this template and decided to do it myself cuz it looked fun ^^

i also made this ver lmao

#redcliff #redcliffe #grell sutcliff #grelle sutcliff #madam red #madame red #angelina dalles #angelina durless #black butler #kuroshitsuji #kuroshitpost #water posts #i had fun doin this

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banana-vatore · 1 year

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i miss redcliffe

#black butler #grelle sutcliffe #kuroshitsuji #madame red #angelina dalles #angelina durless #grell sutcliff #redcliffe #red murder wives #jack the ripper #shinigami #kuroshitpost #meme

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kuroshitconfessions · 9 months

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I don’t think the women in Kuroshitsuji are all sexualized or stereotypes at all. Characters like Lizzie, Sieglinde, Grell, Angelina, Frances, Mey-Rin, and Doll are all complicated characters in their own right, female characters can be flawed yet interesting just like male characters can. Even in cases where they are definitely sexualized (which I am critical of btw) like Ran-Mao, Beast, or Nina, they still are intriguing characters that have agency and/or importance in the story.

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black-butler-confessions · 11 months

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I believe Grell must have genuinely loved Angelina, despite how tragically they ended. Thinking about how Grell risked her entire lifestyle/career as a reaper to support her, and even disguised herself as a plain man to be at her side when we know how much she values her feminine expression. If that’s not some form of love, I don’t know what is. The moment of madness when she murdered her must be something that deeply haunts her, and disturbs her when no one is looking. I doubt anyone else ever has or ever will come as close to understanding Grell’s heart like Angelina did. Hoping someday we’ll get more insight into Grell’s feelings regarding their relationship and how it affects her in the present.

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#ANON IS ME(NOT ACTUALLY)#RHRHGRHHRRG #redcliff #redcliffe #grell sutcliff #grelle sutcliff #madam red #madame red #angelina dalles #angelina durless #black butler #kuroshitsuji #black butler confession

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bapydemonprincess · 7 months

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Madam Red: Can you fix her? (About Butler!Grelle)