#and if you did you def didn't date in hs
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I'm really loving the nuance heartstopper is taking wrt Nick coming out. I think it's hard if you're someone's who's out to be with someone who is still trying to figure it out and come out themselves. One of the one hand, everyone has the right to come out on their own terms. But on the other side, it's not fair to expect someone who did already come out (especially considering how Charlie dealt with a lot of bullying when he came out; and still deals with a lot of shit because he's gay) to essentially have to go back in the closet.
And it also doesn't seem fair for the two to have to break up or not date while the one in the closet figures it out. Especially when they're in hs and it's not that hard!
It's not a black and white issue and I really appreciate that heartstopper is taking the time to explore it. I'm only on episode three, but when Charlie suggests they "hold off" on Nick's coming out plans, I immediately thought of Ben and thought "No, Charlie, don't do this again." Charlie is setting himself up for hurt, but he's doing it to try to be supportive of Nick. It's a really hard position for a kid his age to be in. Poor kids.
#stuff like this is why i tend to watch this type of content#being a teenager and being gay and being willing to come out?#folks in my day did not come out in hs#and if you did you def didn't date in hs#at least not other kids you went to school with#maybe you kept a secret lover who was likely much older than you#but you didn't date your peers#that's why i find stories of gay teens dating so interesting#kids have more freedom today than they did in my day#so i'm interested to see these stories play out#the same type of stories you see in regular teen shows and stories but just with gay teens!#it's so fun!
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Hi!! First of all: I’ve been following dear reader since the first chapter of talk your talk and tbh this series has seen me grow up? If that makes sense??? It’s like “woah. It’s only been a YEAR?!” because I’ve just done so much growing and I think a lot of that is due to your writing, so, just, like, thank you sm. (Hope that’s not weird!!)
For my actual question: I think it was touched on briefly but never in depth: how did Austin, Kayla, and Apollo react to Nico and Will’s relationship? Like, they def knew something was going to happen, but how did they feel about that? How long did they know? Like I can just imagine them having so many bets about when they were finally going to start dating and who would confess first and stuff 😭 esp Kayla bc I get the feeling she’s just a liiittttle bit nosy but!! yeah!!
ahshdf omg thank you?? that's so insane to find someone reading from the first chapter!! (logically, i know that people did, because it received hits, but like, wow that's so crazyKLDSF) - and LITERALLY SAME. honestly i've done so much growing with the characters, i remember writing them when i was literally in the same year of hs with them and everything, and so so much has changed in that single year, it's been crazy. to know that that's been the same with some of the readers is so so incredible to hear!! (and not weird at all, i totally get it) i feel like specifically looking back at my end notes over the years... i recently reread talk your talk just because i was in a fic drought and it's so crazy to see all of those end notes... it genuinely felt like a diary at some point, sophomore year of hs SUCKEDsdfj
and on to the question!! ahh i didn't really go into depth with this and i absolutely should have! thank you for asking :)
basically, i think that they were all very very aware of will's crush on nico. nico's crush on will was also pretty obvious, but bc kayla lived with will 24/7 and austin was more in contact with will, they knew more about him first and foremost
austin would return home every break and be like "are they dating yet?" and kayla would just sigh very loudly.
either way, when they eventually did find out, they were very supportive (in the teasing sibling way), but let's be real - leo and nico were like siblings to them for quite a long time! they spent a lot of time at apollo's house, and in a lot of ways, the dynamic between them as a household didn't really change - nico was still the same nico that they'd always known
as for apollo... god i'm so excited bc eventually i'll get to write his pov of their relationship, and i just imagine him... god, just so happy to see his son in love and happy. don't get him wrong, he's absolutely happy for aroace austin too, but there's something about seeing will get it right the first time, and have this little budding crush on his friend in middle school turn into a solid relationship throughout high school and knowing that one day that's gonna be his son in law and he already loves nico like a son - like that's seriously gonna hit so hard.
i think that at first, apollo's like "ah, a middle school crush. i can't wait to impart my breakup wisdom to my son"
and then, obviously, as time goes on, he thinks to himself that god, he really likes this kid. he actually really hopes that they don't end up breaking up... even though he's had such bad experiences with romance that it's kinda hard not to imagine it ending up that way, yk?
but then they do eventually get together, and apollo is ecstatic, but throughout that first year he's just kind of watching, observing, slowly taking note, trying to see if they really could be the one for each other when they had found each other in literally middle school
but i think that by the time their senior year comes around, and nico's father's death, and how they manage to get through all of that, he thinks that yeah, they're definitely it for each other. and that makes him more proud than any grade or college acceptance or grammy that they could've gotten
(have you noticed i love apollo and will and nico dynamic. bc i do. idk why but i just do. they're so. hsdflsdfljsd)
thank you for the ask!!
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thinking about the time i had a thing with this girl in freshman year of hs (so like 14-15) we weren't dating but it def looked like it. ANyways, we don't really see each other over the summer. go back for sophmore year the happiness overtakes me and I kiss her.
free of any though of will. My lips on her cheek. I was mortified
And then she giggled. and so did I.
our other friends were shocked (there were 2 straight people there). I was billed as a lesbo. we didn't date but were gal pals. still friends now.
i love this i am rooting for you two
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Oommgggg okay okay. My number one is Mammon, tied for two is Satan and Beel with Lucifer coming in hot. My typical Bias is a mix of Mam and Satan (Anger issues but soft all overrrr)
OMG ANOTHER OL!!!! Bro omfgggg. I love COVE AHH!!! Yes! The Baxter DLC and Derek DLC is out. Wedding DLC has been out and there's even two spicy bonus moments with Cove on their patreon 👀👀👀
Ikesen thooo. Nobu was my favorite but we don't talk about his thing for feet BC that's not my thinggg. IkePri uhh Chev. I have a thing for the ones that want me dead at first bc I'm delulu and my brains like nah that didn't happen bc I'd be dead bc I'd fight back.
Mysme was okay for my HS self. I blew threw it and used guides. Zen is my anomaly I love himmm.
Cinderella Phenomenon tho?? It's so good tbh. It's definitely long in story telling but once you get locked onto a route of your choosing it's soooo good I love it.
TokyoRev involves time travel and gang themes. I got into it bc I thought the charas were adults but a huge chunk is like.. during their middle school years but they show them as adults years into the future so it's worth it for me. Painful but not as painful as Demon Slayer. Lawwwdd. I love Sanemi ❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
Also dw we all a lil wild on main 🥴
-Angsty Anon
It's so hard not to love Mammon!! ♡ Actually I posted a little mammon drabble today! 😆 Satan is really cute (I finally got on that train w NB) & Beel & Lucifer have always been a part of the harem!♡ dude yes! I'm a sucker for anyone who's a little rough but actually soft (especially when its just for you 🥹!!)
Hehe I'll continue the rest here!!
THEY FINALLY HAVE BAXTER'S!?!?! OMG. I'm gonna have to treat myself and replay it! That dating sim SERIOUSLY left a lasting impression!!! Tbh, it might actually be the best one I've played? And that was just with Cove at the time too, insane! 😵💫 ...Spicy cove content you say?? 👀💕
Nobunaga had me going insane! He was so annoying but I *literally* squealed so many times playing his route & couldn't get enough of him! Dude yeah the puffy toes thing... LMFAOOOO. (But ngl...I like having my feet kissed. /recently discovered that)
Chev just likes to play hard to get, his type always come around, ignore the threats 😌
Dude even with guides I was like nah this game is asking for too much 😭
Tbh I don't mind long story telling! I'll have to check it out!
I def got gang vibes from Tokyo Rev but time travel!?!? I did NOT expect to read that lol! & partly middle schoolers!? Another shock! 😂 wow I really didn't know anything about it lol
ohh I like demon slayer! I still haven't watched the most recent season though! The last one I watched was the one with Tengen! I'm def a tengen & rengoku stan ♡
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What were Jensen and Bryce’s experiences discovering their sexualities like? What triggered them to start questioning? How long did it take for them to find a label that fit? Did any specific people help them in any way? Anything else you’d like to add?
tysm for this ask work is done now and im so excited to answer it (apologies its also long af)
What were Jensen and Bryce’s experiences discovering their sexualities like?
Jensen: it took him a long time to be "bothered" with it, is the best way to put it. jensen didnt really have the typical high school relationship/s or experimentation, which def set him back (and led to some bad decisions) in college. he had a gf in high school (who is featured in what doesnt kill you), but he just did it bc she asked and he figured why not, yk? (funnily enough they technically never "broke up" but after jensen got arrested it was implied)
after getting in w his foster parents and moving on to college, he actually had time to figure out stuff about himself (rather than worrying about him and his mom), which was a very weird experience for him. because he was into the music scene more by then, he was meeting lots of new people at shows, and many of them actually had an,, interest in him?? jensen would have never considered himself attractive or even likable before this but suddenly people were asking him out for drinks and actually wanted to get to know him
it was mostly women at first, but ofc a few men went for it too, and jensen never felt compelled to say no. jensen never directly recognized that he was interested in women and men, he just kinda accepted it how it was and moved on (like,, hes friends with aliyah and cy so being queer wasnt some culture-shocking thing that needed to be a big deal yk)
Bryce: bryce started dating early high school and it took him maybe two gfs to realize that he wanted to explore Other options. i dont think he wouldve thought about it much in the beginning, just started dating girls like his friends, but it wouldve been more difficult for him to acknowledge that he definitely wasnt straight
i think bryce wouldve been in with a popular crowd (until everything with his parents at least), so even hinting at any sort of coming out would be a much bigger deal for him. he didnt date or go out with any guys until after his parents bs went public. he went off on his own for a while and that included meeting new people, particularly more queer individuals. his reputation was already fucked so at that point he didnt care anymore, and it was a surprisingly perfect time to try new things and new people
What triggered them to start questioning?
Jensen: somewhere deep in his subconscious, jensen always knew he was attracted to people other than women. again, during his formative years, he really didn't focus on it much, but when it came to more serious dating he was plenty attracted to men, too. he never really questioned it, ig, bc it was sorta always there
Bryce: again, after dating a couple girls, he was like "okay this is nice, but what are my other options" yk. he realized that women weren't his only interest and started questioning more of who he was interested in, rather than just who he was already dating
How long did it take for them to find a label that fit?
Jensen: a while. at least until med school. he labeled as bi for a long time just because it was understandable for other people, but it never quite worked for him. sure it was fine enough, but queer just felt better. rather than just sexuality, he felt that queer covered into gender, too, which he liked more
Bryce: during that hs/early college phase he didn't label as anything, but once he was more confident with it all, pan always felt correct. when dating or anything along those lines, gender never really played a role for him. he was attracted to who he was attracted to and that was enough for him
Did any specific people help them in any way?
Jensen: aliyah and cy were always supportive. they def helped him with labels and generally being in an accepting environment
Bryce: the aforementioned new group of friend he made after the shit with his parents. they were much more open and accepting than his other friends seemed to be. eventually he talked to his old friends again (the ones that werent mad at him) and a good amount of them were fully supportive, it just wasnt really something they had talked about before
Anything else you’d like to add?
not that i can think of!! but again tysm for this ask <3
#jensen valentine#open heart mc#open heart#bryce lahela#asks answers#bryce lahela × jensen valentine#open heart choices
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