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hiraganasakura · 1 year

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I'll admit to having a Problem with br1dgy deeming Team Expanding Acronym's suggestion to continue the Mantle evac & hold the line while calling Vacuo a 'terrible plan'. I mean, it seemed feasible enough right up to the point where Salem rolled in with the city-sized siege whale, *still* beats *leaving the laborers,* and Cinder was already up there, so the 'raise Atlas out of theoretical Grimm reach' thing doesn't really guarantee relic security either.

(For others' reference, anon is referring to this post (link) I recently reblogged (warning: that post is *very* long!))

Yeah, I'm ngl, that point was the major reason I said I agreed with *most* of the points made, not all. I just didn't rly wanna point that out that moment bcus

a) it was a post nearing two years in age that I didn't rly wanna stir the pot about

b) I worried it was kinda nitpicky considering the fact that I agreed with the major points in that series of posts, so bringing it up risked detracting from those main points, and

c) at that point in time I had few coherent thoughts to put down in a way that would make sense anyway

But since you brought it up...

The points in that post that I would dub the "main points" that I agree with are as follows:

Ironwood is a tragic character due to being a villain of his own creation

Atlesian society is horrifically damaging to just about everyone who grows up in it; Ironwood was no exception, which is also smth that lent to his spiral

During the confrontation in Ironwood's office, nobody was entirely in a position to negotiate. Ironwood's PTSD (and probably his Semblance) was kicked into high gear, and his decisions were all but made. RWBY were running ragged and exhausted from their efforts during the evacuation, and as a result were unable to reach Ironwood and convince him to at least find a middle ground

Ironwood's true point of no return wasn't when he declared martial law, or he deemed RWBY and co enemies of the state. It was when he attacked Oscar, who was actually in a position of theoretically being able to negotiate with him, that he crossed the line that he couldn't be pulled back from

All of this being said, the way Ironwood's arc was executed was imperfect, and could have greatly benefitted from having a bit more time sunk into it. (Mostly, I personally wish they had an in-show conversation about his Semblance and how it affected his spiral.) Altho, I understand that CRWBY does not have an infinite budget, so the fact that they didn't is smth I can get

But circling back to your original ask, I agree with you. RWBY and co's plan, while it had its kinks that there was only limited time to work out, was imho an overall better plan than Ironwood's. Going off the information they currently had, there was little (rational) reason to believe that raising Atlas at that very moment was the right choice, for the exact reasons you mentioned

I feel like for me the main issue with that point isn't necessarily the argument itself (I respectfully disagree with it but I can still see the train of thought ppl may have approaching it) but the (imo) strong language of referring to RWBY and co's plan as "terrible". (And this is why I felt my comments on it may have been needlessly nitpicky and why I didn't comment until prompted)

Like I said, yeah, their plan may not have been perfect, but tbf? They didn't exactly have a lot of flexibility to adjust to the new threat level accordingly and in a timely manner, which was why they wanted to keep going as they were until they could get to that position

Now, Ironwood's plan? That's worse. To echo and add onto your points, they didn't know exactly how close Salem was or how fast she was approaching at the time, so to assume that it was already too late was presumptuous; raising Atlas immediately would not only leave countless innocents behind that could have been saved, but all it would do was maybe buy some more time... which wouldn't rly matter, either due to Salem just flying up there with Monstra immediately, or due to Salem's immortality allowing her to use Atlas's isolation to her advantage and chip away at the rest of the world until only Atlas was left and *then* go for them, but either way there is no guarantee that it will be enough time to buy considering Atlas's isolation would make it difficult to obtain necessary materials; and someone already had to be up there to place the Black Queen (who we knew were Cinder and Neo), so all it would do is isolate Atlas with the enemy. So yeah, there's rly no way to win with the "raise Atlas *right at this moment*" plan imo

Now, to be clear, Ironwood's side not having much long-term practicality (I don't deny that it may have had *short-term* practicality for Atlas (but not Mantle obviously), but the questions of "How long will this last?" and "How far can we go before the ends no longer justify the means?" are very important, and the answers don't look good for Ironwood) was like. Kind of the point. He's *not* thinking rationally rn. And I think maybe a lot of ppl in the FNDM viewed him as this level-headed general who fought for the greater good, and had a hard time seeing how that deteriorated until it was too late

But point being, the word "terrible" for the protags' plan is a bit harsh imo. Especially when comparing it to the worse plan that Ironwood had

Another little point I disagreed with (also nitpicky due to its relation to word choice) is the statement of another user on that post that Blake and Yang's decision to reach out to Robyn was "dumb". Again it just feels kinda harsh to me, yes, even taking into account the fact that Blake and Yang did not know what to expect from Robyn's reaction at the time. I mean, maybe "naive" (and contrary to what seems to be a common belief [nobody here] dumb =/= naive, there's more nuance than that)? But I don't think I would personally call it that

Actually, I think it indicates smth much different that *Blake and Yang* of all characters chose to tell Robyn the truth bcus of their trauma-induced trust issues...

But ykw? I've been going on about this for a while and I think the post is starting to derail from its intent lol. I can expand upon on the Robyn thing on request if anyone's interested but I think I'm talked out for the night. Thanks for listening to my rambling

#original post #btw i'm kinda bad at debate so if i poorly worded smth and it sounds like i'm attacking ppl's pov i promise that's not my intent #i'm just blunt sometimes and i have a hard time telling when i'm *too* blunt #so it can sometimes make me come off as rude but i don't mean to be #sry ^^'#rwby #james ironwood #ask/answer

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seijch · 4 years

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send me selfship questions!!

for @raevaioli because i wrote too much the first time and didnt have space to answer everything else 🧍🏻‍♂️

(there’s a lot of shit under the cut NDJKDKS be Warned)

1. where was your first date?

well, youve already heard about the first date that we realized was indeed A Date with futakuchi, but my first Proper Date with him would have to be somewhere like an arcade where we can have fun but still talk?? personally movie (theater) dates aren’t good first dates bc you Have to stay silent until the movie is over?? what’s the APPEAL...

there’s a shared exhale of relief as the large stuffed pokemon gets dropped by the crane into the pickup zone. “i can’t believe you pulled that off,” i tell him.

“you know, just for that, i’m keeping it.”

“you don’t even like pokemon! what happened to ‘this one’s for you, baby?’” i ask, voice dropping an octave to imitate him.

“i never said that, first of all. second of all,” he continues, grip tightening on the rowlet, “i won it. so it’s mine.”

“you fucking suck.”

(he says all this, yet when he drops me off, he insists i take the rowlet with me and name it after him. i graciously oblige, dubbing it coochie jr.)

when it comes to kuroo, he probably Says it’s some kind of unplanned affair but it ends with him unloading a picnic basket as we watch the sun set bc he’s a SAP... hate that fool 😔

“you’ve got good taste in music,” i tell him as the next song on his playlist begins. he’s definitely planning something, but i don’t say anything as his driving becomes less aimless.

“oh, i know,” he grins. “good enough for you to ask me for recommendations, i’d say.”

i’m crossing my arms before his sentence gets to finish. “listen,” i start, “you can’t tell me it didn’t work. we’re together now, aren’t we?” he doesn’t choose to grace that with a response.

before we know it, kuroo’s parked the car. “we’re here.”

“here? at the park? what are you gonna do, hold my hand while we watch the sunset?” i tease, getting out of the car. he doesn’t respond. “tetsu?”

“you really think you know me, don’t you?” he appears from the other side, picnic basket in hand and a resigned smile on his face. “what do you suggest we do now that my surprise has been torn to shreds, hm?”

“i mean...can we still eat? i’m kinda hungry.” i point to the basket. (i’m clearly deflecting ,, i was Not expecting kuroo the simp to jump out so early and my heart Cannot Take It)

2. who normally plans the dates?

between me and futakuchi i’m going to say none of us! we don’t really go on Dates dates, it’s just Us Hanging Out !! with kuroo, at first it’s him tbh but after we get comfortable everything becomes a date... idk tbh i’m not the type to sweat that kind of thing 🕺🏻 i do like to Go Out and do things w my s/o no matter who they are but a date doesn’t always have to be going out nor does it have to be a Special going out yk??

3. what kind of dates would you two mostly go on? do you have a “date spot?”

i mentioned this in my answer for 24, but w kuchi we have this ritual of going out to eat every friday and after we get together that doesn’t change!!! if we’re feeling extra lazy we might order takeout but we always always spend our friday nights together... it’s def smth we look forward to even Before we start dating (and it’s smth we both wonder Why we anticipate before we get tgt)

in terms of a date spot? we have our favorite places (like the ramen joint i mentioned in 24) but other than that maybe a few other restaurants and that’s kinda it! our other dates are the occasional study date but i cannot study when he’s around,, just looking at his face pisses me off 😃 nah but we can’t focus on school together + we’d get heated over a meaningless argument and get kicked out NDNSJSJ

when we get domestic w each other (like in uni or beyond) kuroo and i have all our dates at the grocery store... idk abt you but the INTIMACY of buying groceries w someone you love is so [clenches fist] yk?? but before and sometimes after that point rlly it’s like Things To See and Things To Do whenever kuroo puts himself in charge of planning it bc he knows we both like to be engaged and have fun!! (i alr said it but our date spot is the grocery store <3)

4. what kind of date do you think the both of you would enjoy the most? why?

that’s a very good question... i mentioned it alr but kuroo and i vibe heavy w things that are engaging and give us things to talk about while we keep busy,, like maybe an amusement park or smth w all the rides (we’re definitely spinning the shit out of the teacups) mostly bc i think he likes being kept on his toes and i do too! i think we’d challenge each other to do better by setting an example for the other to follow just in general,, also ngl places w a lot of ppl are good too so we can peoplewatch,, the two of us are the type to read people with a glance and when we need downtime we’d sit down somewhere and just kinda . 👁👁 yk

“i might barf,” i announce, gait crooked from the dizzying ride.

“no, you won’t,” kuroo replies, allowing me to drape myself over him though he’s not walking straight either. “didn’t you hear? vomitting is banned in this country and thirteen others.”

“a shame. anyway, let’s go on the pirate ship ride next.”

(we sit at the outer edge. it’s not a good time for the folks in the two seats in front of us. we wipe our vomit—mostly my vomit—from the corners of our mouths and apologize profusely.)

when it comes to kuchi, i think he’d like smth where we would end up competing against each other! i mentioned this when i answered question 50, but kenji and i are almost TOO competitive over stupid shit so smth like laser tag (where everyone is like ... why don’t you want to work together aren’t you DATING) would be SO fucking fun

“it’s not too late to surrender,” he simpers, my body sandwiched between his and the wall. my gun’s been knocked out of my hand—that’s gotta be against the fucking rules—and part of me feels like i’m on a real battlefield, as fleeting the thought is. “some battles, you just can’t win.” he punctuates this statement with a sage nod, leaning so close his breath fans against my face. “so, what’ll it be?”

i close the gap, pressing my lips against his and relishing in the strangled groan that comes from the back of his throat as he reciprocates, free hand moving to the nape of my neck. the hand holding the gun drops. that’s all the opening i need.

i let him deepen the kiss, take his bottom lip between my teeth and gently tug as my hands reach for his gun while his brain is still between his legs.

aim. fire.

i’m the last one standing, and the lights turn on around us. “it’s always good to have goals,” i tell him, granting him a consolation peck to the lips. “but i suggest making them more realistic next time.”

9. what do you think your first impression of them would be?

now THIS is a question i knew the answer to going in bc my best friend (honestly she doesn’t get paid enough ,, or at all ,, for all the shit she has to put up w from me NDNSKSK) had to hear all abt my elaborate fantasies regarding these two but!!

my first impression of kuroo is 1) 😳😳 and more importantly, 2) I Want To Know What He’s About... bc he’s not the kind of person i’d get the full picture of w just one look and maybe a few words spoken? he’d pique my interest a LOT (and this is smth he shares w tsukishima, tho i don’t see myself in a long lasting relationship w him like i do w kuroo and kuchi!) and i’d end up worming my way into his life whether he likes it or not until i find out :-)

unlike kuroo i see kenji and go Wow. What An Asshole. ok no i don’t NDNSJSN i probably think he’s cute first THEN go what an asshole and there’s definitely a long period of time where we’re genuinely getting on each other’s nerves before it goes into the romantic relationship-adjacent dynamic you see in my answer to 24!

10. what do you think their first impression of you would be?

kuroo’s definitely curious. i don’t imagine him being unable to see thru me from the start but i prove myself to be Good Conversation so he’s fine (and ends up being more than fine) with me bothering him as much as i do. kenji probably sees me the way i think most people see me at first? very soft and sweet ,, and then he tries to rile me up, tries to test the waters and pretty quickly finds out that right under the nice girl is someone that won’t hesitate to mirror the shit he tries to dish out.

(again) 24. would you confess first or would they? how would it have gone?

i saw you said in the tags you wanted to see the kuroo one so here it is 🤝 i had all my fun writing kenji’s so this one is shorter than that but!!!

NDNSNSN anyway !!! with kuroo it’s kinda 50/50 bc i’m not shy when it comes to my feelings but at the same time i like to have the lowest chances possible for failure when it comes to things like this... but i simp SO heavy for him so lbr it’ll prob be me just bc i literally Cannot pretend that my intentions are platonic anymore and he’s not gonna do it first (later i find out he was trying to see how long he could go before one of us mentioned the elephant in the room)

(5:38 PM) me: anyway for the weekly song rec

(5:38 PM) me: khalid ft. john mayer - outta my head

(5:39 PM) me: specifically 1:16-1:25 :-)

the messages have sent before i can think twice or even consult anyone about it. there’s a beat of silence. then two. then three. i throw my phone down onto the bed as it bounces off the mattress and onto the carpet.

what the fuck!!!!!! bitch why did you do that!!!!!!!

there’s no taking it back now. he reads it ten minutes after it sends (not like anyone’s checking, that would be preposterous). the picture i took of him mid-sneeze two months ago lights up the screen, a facetime call from shithead 👺 bringing me to yet another crossroads. do i answer it and face the music (literally), or do i pretend to have been busy and act as though i didn’t just confess to one of my best friends through text and with music, of all things?

i pick up the call.

“i liked the song,” he says as soon as the call opens, “though i can’t help but wonder if there was a hidden meaning to it.”

“and if i told you there was?”

“well,” he replies, sounding a little out of breath (where is he?), “i’d tell you to open your door because i’m outside.”

true enough, when i race downstairs and open the door, he’s waiting for me. “and if i told you that was my way of asking you to be my boyfriend?”

“well, i think i’d want to ask if i could kiss you. assuming, of course, it was alright to do something like that so soon-“

he doesn’t finish his sentence. his lips are a little bit chapped, but pleasant nonetheless, and i tuck the newfound fact away in my file of things i know about kuroo tetsurou.

(for reference, the song lyrics for the part i mention are can you feel the tension / you’ve got my attention / i know we’re just friends but / i’d rather be together instead)

#💘 selfship #also both ari and my real name are Not good names to make ship names out of but????#and its not like kuchi and kuroo are ideal for ship names either so im rlly at a loss NSNDJSJ #excuse how Long it took me to answer this i had to go to work before i could even brainstorm 😔#nd yes...if i ask a man for music recs im 90% up to smth i Admit #BYE I PROMISE I LOVE KUROO LIKE IM IN LOVE WITH HIM BUT THE FUTAKUCHI BRAINROT... SO STRONG #fun fact i actually asked someone out using the song i mention in kuroos confession scene 😃#this is also called ari overuses the italics function 😃#anyway im sure im forgetting to say a lot of shit but ill cross that bridge when i get there :-)#thank you again for asking raenah NDNSMSM #also after having given it some Thought i think kuri would be half decent for kuroo??#for futakuchi ... god i hate this slimy bastard i can’t think #maybe chika w the ka coming from my real name 👁#i’ve never been huge on portmanteau names but . if i had to pick i would choose those

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