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irenerei · 4 years

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THING I HAVE NOTICED IN FALLIN’ FLOWER MV

The MV killed me in so many ways and I loved all the details and symbolism that tally with the lyric. It will be long so...

I did an short analysis of the lyric, can be found here

The MV killed me in so many ways and I loved all the details and symbolism that tally with the lyric. Too bad I dont have good pausing skills so please play the MV while reading this if you like.

The chains that holding back Hoshi and Minghao tally to lyric about hardship endured during summer and rainy days. Or, i personally would think the chains are actually roots. I mean trees are rooted right?

Minghao and Hoshi’s intimate dance, notice that Hoshi is stretching out like a branch while Minghao’s twisting upwards to signify growth

A flash of Minghao and Hoshi’s dance that they are on the ground look like struggling it maybe symbolise bud growing out from the soil.

Wonwoo chained, i will express this further in the wonhui moment later

Woozi with Color stripes? looks like he is an artist struggling to express what it is his ideal of beautiful. It tally to lyrics and his life as producer and songwriter (PS : Black hair woozi majestic af)

Also I noticed that they Woozi 2 items, paintbrush and camera. Both are art producing tools, does it signifies Woozi capable to play instrument, songwriting and dance and sing? I think so.

Joshua being caved in a room. And Joshua have band aid on his face with small flower stick to his cheek. I have 2 ideas on this.

1. Hoshi’s lyrics “Wound will heal and bud will grow”

2. If the MV is an AU of SVT, Joshua’s appearance might considered an mutant and then he locked himself away. Noticed how the room was all pieces that got shattered, he must have broken them to express his anger. To elaborate further, Joshua is the one of the foreigner in the group his culture is definitely different, who knows it tally to him struggling to fit in and worrying about if he is the weird one. In short, self doubt making oneself ignoring own beauty wtihhin (Chinaline are foreigner too but I am talking about East and West Culture)

Seungcheol one was *deep breath. Idk I resonated alot. I do know this MV was filmed before he took rest from his activities, but him with white cloths surrounding and covering him from surroundings symbolise his hardships as a leader so much to me. It’s kinda like packaging up yourself so that others does not see the fragile side or yours. Just because being fragile/ having mental illness/ being weak is not mainstream enough. Also SeungCheol with his lines tally to SVT enduring trainee hardships so that they could debut and meet us Carats.

DK’s scene. I am not sure about this, but notice he is standing at center and globes are circulating around him. I hope I am wrong it signifies loneliness alot to me. Yes i do have friends or people around me but they dont really understand me and does not see me through aka does not really see the beauty. Or what if the globe are not friends, rather than those online backlashing and evil commenting people?

Also DK scene seems to be the same set as Dino’s. what if globe are the hyungs? lmao. BUT in Dino’s scene we did not see globe

Or if we wanna bring it deeper SVT, DK = SVT = idol and the globe orbiting are normal civilians/netizen.

Vernon’s scene somewhat reminds me of Thanks MV when they are in a room doing makeup lol. Maybe its the color scheme. Notice that Vernon also have flower growing from his hand. Tally to Vernon’s Korean-American blood in him. So for now English speaking line have flower growing from their body parts. ALSO THEIR ROOMS ARE CONNECTED!!!! (Camera work or editing but omg)

Jun scene again i will express it during the wonhui scene. But to mention a bit, I am sure Jun = flower at this point. welp he is beauty he is grace XD.

Jeonghan being the angel chained was ommfph!!! I cannot wait for From of Therapy to react to this lol. I am think Jeonghan’s role in here is truly a fallen angel with his wings got vanished for some reason or whatever. So Angel without wings, still beautiful mainstreamly? Not quite. But still beautiful.

Mingyu on a plank with flowers around him. He is visual of the group after all do we need more elaboration?? lmao. But notice that the plank have noting to support on, its floating. So to me it kinda felt like South korea boy band industry rapid growth and such. His good looks of course is not going to stay or being talked as a topic forever. Visuals are not necessarily everything. OF course I am overeading on this but discussion are welcome.

Seungkwan scene, omg I cannot believe how simple yet beautiful it is. The message that I resonated was simple. As Seungkwan went through diet and exercise and health control with vitamins, I think he is admiring and has his own ideals of “beautiful”. He is holding the flowers dearly and also tightly, signifies his stubborn and dedication to be like the “beautiful= flower”

Ah mirror/reflecting glass, this is why I felt it is an aftermath of Fear MV. From Fear lyrics of fearing what I am, to embracing own beauty as flaw makes a part of it too. But the mirror thingy then turns to things for them to step. So, stepping your ownself/accepting your own self? i guess??

Mingyu having a flower shower is soft but rude af, also title callback

ALAS THE WONHUI MOMENT. So I mentioned Jun = falling flower/petals of sakura or other , so in my opinion Wonwoo = soil/ground. Notice that Wonwoo in earlier scene is holding to some dusts. For me it symbolise sakura/petals rot and turns to dust while the ground could only watch it fades away. Hence the whole Wonwoo’s angst acting on earlier scenes but when he saw Jun his expression got gentler. It is kinda like an annual rendezvous thing, “Hi! its been a year~!” “I told you I will be back again *smiles”

That is why i felt it is a lowkey Wonhui fic, well played.

Them boys all gathering as one symbolise they got out of their shell (their respective scene = shell) and embrace beauty, making a LARGER PICTURE OF BEAUTIFUL. yes I am implying SVT = BEAUTY here.

In short our boys are all beautiful entities, and thank you destiny making them gathered together to be as one group.

I hope I did not miss anything, but if I do, its open for discuss.

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princesseblade · 6 years

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there are black women who don't like shallura for that very reason though. i get that you haven't come across alot of us because most black anti-shallura fans are kallura shippers and i respect that you hate kallura but we do exist. And the reason why we don't like people portraying allura as older to ship her with shiro is because that was the original argument that white klance shipers used to call kallura problematic, even though it really isn't. (1/3)

They talk about how Allura is actually 25 yrs old (even after the confirmed ‘teen’ comment) and how she’s the mom of the group and how she’s just there to baby sit kept and lane on their ~~mutually pining~~ adventure, and argue that is the reason why she shouldn’t be anywhere near keith or lance in terms of shipping. Like theres a lot to be said about how white fandom views black girls as older than they actually are and the way some white fans ship shallura (2/3)

(as a convenient side course to klance) is reminiscent of that. i dunno. Theres a lot i want to say that i can’t say on anon but if you want to see more posts about this from actual black bloggers you should check out user @kallura or @isamukuro who both have better posts on this. (i hope i don’t sound rude here. Like i get what you’re trying to say but i feel like i should point out that there ARE BW who feel uncomfortable with shallura/ageing up allura for ships). (3/3)

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...this is alot. lol so here goes...

For starters you’re asking someone who’s indifferent to Sha//ura on a good day their opinion on a ship they don’t actively really participate in, and you got my pov and opinion on the matter. I’m not saying there aren’t black anti-sha//ura shippers(I even said in my initial response that if there are black women who take issue with it then to take pause and listen to their concerns) but again I personally haven’t come across them en-masse, I have seen way more black Sha//ura supporters then the opposite so I based my opinion on my personal experience that it must not be that big of an issue if most of the black women I’m coming across support the ship *shrug*

Everything you noted about yt fandom shoehorning Allura into the stoic mom friend is on point and I agree. I’ve even made some posts about this myself in that regard and yes that is an instance where people aren’t allowing Allura to be multifaceted or complex that is something that is trash but this wasn’t in the initial ask so I didn’t address that, it was specifically about Sha//ura age discourse.

I also noted that I don’t think the age thing is an issue because I don’t think Allura’s that much younger than Shiro and thats going off the in show flirting bit with Matt who’s either around or is Shiro’s age(early 20′s). So in that respect no Shiro/Allura doesn’t bother me.

and now this:

most black anti-shallura fans are kallura shippers and i respect that you hate kallura but we do exist.

Girl what? Where have I said I hate ka//ura? lmao, hate is a little strong, do I think it’s been done already and I’d like to see something different? Yes. Do I think as it stands in the current continuity it’s kinda dull and would be a major ass pull 5 seasons in? You bet! But I don’t hate it I don’t have that kinda energy its easier to just blacklist the ship name and not be bothered. Like speaking plainly this feels like a Ka//ura vs Sha//ura thing and I don’t really have a horse in either race sooooo the only thing else I can say is, if it’s bothering you that much and if thats how you feel about it then you need to not engage and block.

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