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katyspersonal · 9 months

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Wait why do you mean Asthon (your vicar oc) is cut content?! Bro is real? Like really real?! Wait you got me curious. (or is it just about the fact that we don't know in detail the other vicars? I personally headcanon the woman praying in the grand cathedral of the nightmare as (one) the Vicar between Laurence and Amelia)

Argh, well, it is complicated! Yes, he is very OC-ish, but the thing is, this name WAS featured in cut content:

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Basically, at some point, the names were switched, and Willem was called Laurence, the scholar that detracted from him was called Ashton, when actual Willem was also 'husk of Micolash', when there was also another face featured, called Herbert (Norbert in English)! Like, I think you know most of the cut content by now, but yeah, some names are obscure.

(It is also this same site in which I've learned that Norbert's name was also mistranslated! ヘルベルト is 'Heruberuto', and Lance McDolands also noticed that before in this ( x ) Tweet!)

You might recognise the first dialogue, too! Micolash has some voice files for cut dialogue ( x ), it was a little mistranslated, hence I am using this Japanese site, but the gist is still here!

So, yeah... Ashton and Herbert are the only names mentioned across the cut content that appear to be same/close in status to what Laurence and Emilia are! That's why I just took what I could, and in my thing there were four Healing Church heads in total; Laurence, Ashton, Herbert and Emilia, in this order! And each would bring something different during their era. In fact, I did want to make a line-up explaining who did what - whereas Laurence is self-explanatory, it is worth to mention how Healing Church was living after Laurence became a beast. But like, I first want to finalize the DRIP designs for them all, and I can't even get past Laurence's one already, because I am always distracted/working/sick/dead/etc fdsjhfh

Like, yeah, basically they're 'OCs with a prompt', since I had to design and write literally everything about them, but I still consider them to be revived cut content, because I hate giving myself any credit. xd

Fun fact! Ashton can also be a female name! I really wish I learned of it before I already wrote him as a male character, because we do need more nasty, evil women. But I tend to be a little rigid when I've already written a character in a certain way. Not gonna lie though, I often consider retconing him as a female character, because explain me how, HOW you can have """too many""" female villains? For now though he just really loves feminine things. Same as Damian. Or Micolash. Or Valtr. Or Ludwig. ...damn, I like slapping feminine aesthetic like FLEX APE too much, even where it doesn't quite fit. MOTHER OF MERGO, I AM-

(It's just an inside joke. It's funny because Gehrman would've dressed every hunter into a pretty dress if he could. xd)

But yeah, basically, I took what I could from the cut content, and tried to base my ideas on what it gave us. So, if Ashton used to be someone under Laurence - then that should be the dynamic in my thing too! So, underling of him in Healing Church, and the next vicar. Herbert was also mentioned to have been a previous leader of the Church, so that was saved too!

Fun fact - because Emilia used to be named Laura in cut content, I also have a secret 5th Vicar that went unused, with Laura being Herbert's daughter that didn't get to live to be the next Vicar. Well, TECHNICALLY, she is still alive! Remember that big Celestial Emissary in orphanage, who acts like the 'leader', and also, interesingly, drops Communion rune? I headcanon that the emissaries in that Orphanage are children that were taught to Think With Cosmos by the Choir, and Laura used to be their overseer while Herbert was at the position and she had not too much to do. But more or less, she refused to abandon the children when Croir's base crumbled the hell out, and sort of ascended with them. In either case, this is not quite Laura anymore.. But, after Orphanage got nuked, Herbert was the one to take in orphans that he could take and raise them within the walls of the Healing Church! Like I mentioned, Adella was one of kids (well, teens) he basically adopted. But she had the biggest adopted daughter energy to him, hence she became a successor.

Ashton, though? Honestly, he started and is still going as my "punching bag" djfdshfd I did not want to use Laurence as obligatory 'evil cleric' at the time, since he had too much tragedy potential, and too much complexity. But yes, Ashton is more or less the combination of some traits I just looooooove. -_- Self-projecting, bullying people for what he himself has, provoking someone to feel a certain way and then blaming their reaction as them being "insane" or "irrational", fuckin'... flirting with someone and when they start returning the h0rny, blaming them for "daring" to think that he, such a HOOOOOOLY man, would EVER feel this way, and force them to apologize etc etc dshdh + Every time I reblog that video where a woman pushes a priest off the platform, I caption it as 'this is Rom when Ashton was being homophobic' and it is still canon, so that too.

Like... I can write a list that will actually make your phone lag upon scrolling so much, but you already get the idea of what type of a person he is. However yeah, jokes or not, but he managed to gain enough of reputation of a 'saint', by both appearing rather oppressive in demeanor and by secretly normalizing cannibalism (he'd sometimes feed people concerned with falling into beasthood meat or blood of enemies of the Healing Church, that they'd not know about, but they'd feel "easier' after that (of course...), and would be easily gaslit by Ashton into thinking that he had something personally to do with it, to offer remedy :') Like... It was kind of a big deal while it lasted. That you didn't have to be burnt/shot/trapped into one of those coffins if you start feeling beasthood but you could like, idk, talk with Ashton and feel better? I love to think that his beast form would reflect that, where his back would resemble a Kin way more than a beast, and you'd only see his hideous true form when he turns around! So yeah, like 'wolf in a sheep clothing' sorta!!)

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But yeah, these are the ideas! I really love the guy, but at the same time a lot about him comes from a couple of years ago, when my knowledge on Bloodborne lore was a bit limited, so for now I question whether Ashton "stole" too much from the thing LAURENCE should've been doing during his corruption arc. So yes, just take it as me tossing ideas around. Thank you for the ask, I really needed to revisit this stuff!

#bloodborne #ask replies #bloodborne headcanons #cut content #vicar ashton #vicar herbert #father norbert

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ne0nwithazero · 2 years

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How do you come up with concepts/find Inspiration for projects like your ch3?

Warning - I got overexcited and started info-dumping and ended writing a LOT and I don't ever know if it's helpful so uhhhh sorry about that! This is long...

Thank you for the question :) Creating original characters has been my passion for way over a decade so tbh I don't really think about it too much, it kind of just happens

Characters end up living in my head and doing their own thing and I have no choice but to watch and document it LOL jkjk

But yeah, for chapter 3 I've literally only made Mike and Host and have hardly developed anything around the TV World aside from the stuff that I have shared and the backstory of those two

I guess I could share my thought process when I was first making them? I don't know if that would help, but I do enjoy sharing stuff like that ^^

I'll start by saying that I never wanted to make a Mike design because I knew from the start that I'd become extremely attached, and lo and behold, that's exactly what happened hahaha

Host was never a character in the earlier concepts, I'm writing my fic "To Give You Heaven", and while "Mike" has been mentioned in my other fics as kind of like a vague evil entity that torments Spamton's memories, for the Heaven fic, I wanted to focus more on the relationship between the two.

And in order to have that, "Mike" needed to actually be a character rather than just an evil voice just so their relationship actually had anything to it.

I've never been good at writing villains, every time I write a mean villain-esce thing, it never feels natural to me, and I do admit that that is the reason why Mike (And Host) turned out to be a lot more morally grey than most other interpretations I've seen ;;

aNYWAY, THE DESIGN UHHH

Host was never meant to be a character I actually started writing Mike in the fic before I tried to draw him, and initially him and Host were the same entity.

I was mixed about it because everything in the game points to Mike being the TV character but I kept thinking about how "Mike" is most likely a pun for "Mic/Microphone" and I had seen some fan designs already that interpreted him as a microphone so I was really into that idea, but I also liked the TV Head idea so I started with them being the same character, so it was just Mike commanding this empty husk of a TV Head, who was also him???

Or he was a microphone built into the TV Head's body?? They both had the pink and yellow eyes at some point, and they'd move in sync, but that kind of went nowhere.

Then that whole thing kind of started developing into the whole parasite/host idea, and the TV Head got the placeholder name of "TV Host" (Because haha pun) and then just "Host" and then slowly became their own entity so that's how they came into the picture.

But having not one but two characters talking to Spamton at the same time would kind of felt weird and the relationship Host originally had with Mike was also a lot more hostile, so I ended up making them mute.

Host's connection with Gaster also came from their whole sign language thing and how it hints at that "Beware of the man who speaks in hands" phrase. Host's initial concept also had holes on the hands, but that got scrapped because it felt a bit too on the nose LOL

Side-note, but Host's concept of the floating sign language hands is actually a recycled idea from an AU version of another unrelated OC of mine, I wasn't doing anything with said AU OC, but I liked that part of the design so I wanted to reuse that.

My thought process is all over the place rn, but yeah the main idea for them was just me being stubborn and not wanting to make a TV Head Mike, but still wanting to have fun with that expectation.

Basically I just wanted people to go "Wait, Mike's the microphone???" Which I think is really funny I kind of expected people to not really care much about Host because of this, but the reception to them has been so positive, I'm really surprised ^^

I'm a sucker for characters who are "opposites attract", so you'll probably find a lot of that in them Talks a lot vs Can't talk at all, Extrovert vs Introvert, Short vs Tall, Aggressive vs Calm

But I also wanted to have parallels with Spamton! And I really liked the idea of Spamton being "manipulated" by Mike, who ironically is not only smaller than he is, but physically powerless to do anything on his own.

I think I mentioned it on Twitter but I'm not sure if I did here, Mike and Host are also inspired on the Swatch/Spamton and Seam/Jevil dynamics, where it's just "weird little guy" and "emotional support non-binary shopkeeper" LOL whichhhhh built the expectation of Mike being a secret boss, but I wanted to be stubborn so I said "Uhm actually it's Host" because they're the one with the Gaster connection and between them and Mike, they're the one who's more prone to getting manipulated by someone with bad intentions, Mike kind of ends up protecting them in that aspect

Hosts' Design hmm Their design was based on the TV Sprite from the end of Chapter 2, and their blue tone was originally colour picked from the sprite itself, I couldn't decide what their eyes would look like so I didn't give them any, and even though it's not present on the sprite, I gave them the colour bar mouth anyway (Omega Host has the normal non-coloured teeth similar to the sprite, because that inconsistency bothers me a lot haha)

As I mentioned above, the floaty hand idea is recycled from an older OC, and also because I couldn't figure out what their arms looked like so I didn't give them any.

Their shoulders are inspired on those bulky square camera heads, with the green part being the camera len, but they're so stylized so I'm not sure that part of the design actually translates too well. I based their body on a TV remote, couldn't decide on a leg design so I just made them solid blue as well.

Tailcoats are kind of a weird staple of my designs so the addition of it is just a design clutch, but also an excuse for me to repeat the colour bar pattern haha

I should have mention that the green on their design is the same green from the Spamton NEO's strings, I kind of wanted the green to kind of symbolize "connection" of some sort, which is why I added it to the shoulders and wrists, but also Mike's cord.

Mike's Design He's literally a microphone with eyes and funny face, what do you want me to say LOL He was inspired on the smiling face that you see when you go to the basement, but at some point I inverted the order of his eye colour and I forgot to fix it so his eyes are the same as Spamton's glasses Back on the opposites talk, while Host has no eyes, Mike is literally a goofy face slapped on a mic, he's so tiny that I had to make his eyes and mouth huge to make up for it

He's inspired on one of those metal retro microphones because I wanted to imply that he was older with a vintage ish look (He's like on his 50s), and I think his silver colour ended up adding to that because I personally associate the silver with older people, but also him being shiny kind of helped give him an important look I guess?? I'm not sure if that comparison makes any sense.

Him and Host also have the cute matching bowties because of the TV presenter vibes, Mike's green cord is because of the Spamton/Sneo connection and hhhhh Yeah that's all there is to it really On his own, he's literally just a microphone so he looks best when together with Host,,

I don't know what I say about Mike's design with the body, he's very simple. Asymmetric suit to match his eyes, pink and white because I felt like the yellow would be too much, and the cord actually being his tail is kind of a funny gag,,, Because I imagine he tries to act very intimidating when he's just a mic, but then when he gets his body fixed, others find out that the cord was a tail and paired with how tiny he is, it just makes him weirdly cute and I don't know, it's just a cute interaction hahaha

But yeah, I'm not sure if this helped in anyway or if I completely missed the point of the question ;v; My process is just throwing stuff at the wall until it sticks and just work from there, and also not worry too much about getting characters perfect in one go because the development is gradual??? Most of my inspiration comes from Deltarune/Undertale itself, as well as reading people's theories on the game I've been making characters for a while, it kind of just happens so I don't know what advice to give other than "This is how I did things, so if any of what I said helps, uhh go for it??" qwq

#Jay Asks #anonymous #Mike #Host #Jay gushes about character design and likely misses the point of the question #infodump time #sorry I'm cringe #This is just something I get very passionate about #Deltarune Cable AU #Cable Asks #Mike and Host Asks #Mike Asks #Host Asks

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starrii-nights · 4 years

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Hey I’m bored so take one of my main ocs noodle enjoy ^^ also it features @hanahathefluffydragon oc Hana and my other oc Star :D

Noodles backstory

To give you a small bit of context to make this all make sense, in this world kitsune’s are the most respected species. They have the charm and luck and watch over the rich families they are pretty much royalty but somewhere during the reign of the kitsunes a new hybrid was born these are the wolf kitsunes. They aren’t as powerful as the kitsunes but they did have the longer life span. All the wolf kitsunes were sent to lots of poor families to give them a bit of hope but if the family becomes extremely broke or desperate for money the kitsunes must do whatever they can to make sure that they can live even if it means selling one of their children vases to protect the family. This tradition has lived on for hundreds of years which brings us here.

On the 6th of October 20XX a new wolf kitsune was born to a desperate family of 4. Their name was Karina, Karina lived a rough life since the family their parents were watching over didn’t have enough food to feed them which reflected on the wolf kitsunes. They ended up becoming thin and always hungry and never got enough to eat for a growing kitsune but things got worse for the two families..

Karina father was always getting angry and screaming at the young hybrid saying how they were just bad luck. The father of the human family started drinking and waisted all the remaining money on that. This set a massive toll on Karina since they just felt horrible all of this time since they couldn’t do anything to help until one night. Karina was four and their first tail was almost fully grown the kitsune family were in their house asleep when all of a sudden 2 figures appeared at the door of the human family.

They had funny hats on with bizarre outfits. They claimed to this family that if they trade one of the families kitsunes then they will get all the money they would ever need. At this time the kitsune family was over hearing all this terrified but if it means that the family will become richer they will allow Karina to be sold. Karina was terrified about all this trying to break free but it was useless the trade was done and now Karina has a new owner. That owner was the leader of the Katune cult.

Once the two figures arrived back to the cult grounds they presented the vase that Karina was in. The leader of this cult demanded that the kitsune should come out of the vase to see them. Karina did hoping maybe they will care about them like their parents did once but how utterly wrong they were. Once the leader saw Karina they were disgusted

“A wolf kitsune?! I wanted a real one not one of these rip offs”

This hurt Karina a lot but they tried to hide the tears. The leader ordered the members to destroy the vase (if a kitsunes vase is destroyed they are bound to earth centuries and they can be effected by corruption and pain and scarring and their glowing and levitation disappeared ) making Karina forced to stay here and not hide in their vase. The glow which the kitsunes had disappeared from Karina and they fell to the ground in front of the leader

“Get out of my sight ok?” Noodle nods and runs away on all fours trying to escape but was stopped by a guard, and was thrown into the jail at the bottom of the cult for escaping. After being let out Noodle was forced to become a chef and cook for everyone as a punishment and was forced to do everyone’s tasks for them. This lasted for years and evertime noodle forgot to do something they would either get burnt by hot coals or scratched slowly by a sharp object. This left noodle covered in scars and burns but they tried to hid them in their fur.

One day when Noodle managed to do everything before nightfall. They fought of studying the books in the cult library to maybe learn more about this place since they are still learning everything about this place. This was the night were noodle learned about the elemental beasts of the world and the crown and staff which the leader dawned. So they planned out how to defeat this leader and take this power for their own. All they want is revenge on this guy for taking everything away from them.

The next day Noodle was cooking noodles for the members and accidentally knocks in some chemicals which they were working on as well. Out of panic. Noodle served the noodles and put some in their hat for safe keeping. And to noodles surprise everyone loved them and called them their true leader. This scared noodle so they picked up their hat and dashed since people were under noodles control for a few minutes they managed to escape with ease

Noodle finally being free they kinda forgot that they were a kitsune since they were forced to walk and talk like humans did so it took them a few minutes to get used to running on all fours again. After constant running they overheard some things talking so they started to listen in.

It ended up being a wolf called star and their sister Nova reuniting for the first time. Which noodle put this to their advantage if they can convince these wolves to help them take over the crown then noodle will have revenge. The young wolf kitsune ran over to the other wolves and begged them for their help

“my family is trapped in a temple can you help me please!” Star seemed a bit reluctant but after novas convincing they agreed to help.

Noodle offered them the noodles they made earlier to the wolves because they seemed hungry so they both ate them and the effects kicked in again. Noodle chuckled as they knew that this will work. Hopefully.. after a day of running back it was night fall most of the members were asleep Noodle hunter to the mind controlled nova and star to sneak in with them past the guards and into the throne room where noodle knew that the leader will be their and to their surprise they were.

“Welcome back Noodle here for your punishment” noodle shakes their head and orders an attack on the man “ No I want revenge” Noodle lunges in with the other wolves beating and nearly killing the Man. The leader was bleeding heavily “why..why did you do this?” Noodle chuckles taking the crown and staff off of him “revenge.”

“At long last it’s finally mine” Noodle sits on the throne placing the crown on their head and a glow happened after the glow ended Noodle felt different. More powerful. And wanting more revenge. The two wolves collapsed on the ground then waking up confused. Noodle cleared their voice and chuckles “Welcome friends to Noodle cult!”

Star looks around confused and annoyed “Why are we in the Katune cult ground”

Noodle just chuckled “This is Men sūpukaruto now and Noodle must thank you two for making this noodles reality!”

“No ...I won’t accept that...” Star says nearly in tears

“Puhuhu Noodle should thank you so Noodle is offering you a deal” Noodle says in a cunning tone “ Noodle offers you to join noodles cult or become a sacrifice take your pick” a reluctant star refuses but nova agrees to join noodle. “Good child now eat up these noodles and as for you Star..Guards take noodles sacrifice downstairs” the guards were confused but they saw noodle had the crown so they agreed.After transforming Nova to fit the cult and sending them to their room Noodle sits down chuckling. The old Karina is long gone now it’s just the husk of noodle which remains.

The next day Noodle was woken up with some bad news.. Star managed to escape and is on the run but that didn’t bother noodle that much. They wanted more power. More revenge so they made it their goal to gain as many members as they could. Years went by Nova was gone she never returned from noodles mission but while on the look out for new members to bribe. Noodle sees someone heading to a small village after failing to convince them, noodle runs after them to find that this small village was a cult too.

After befriending the leader called Evan noodle finally felt that someone cared about them. They finally had a true friend which wasn’t under their control. Them and Evan became really close until one day. A war broke out between cults which caused Nearly all cult to die. Fortunately Noodle survived along with their cult but unfortunately Evans cult didn’t which tore noodle and made them even more angry than they already were. They wanted revenge on life for taking away their only friend and nothing was gonna stop them. No one will even if they had to hurt people and their loved ones they will.

As the years went by reports of missing and murdered people rose to an all time high Noodle was the source of evil their body was corrupt they showed no remorse tricking and killing thousands every year their cult was the biggest threat to nearly everyone..all apart from one person Star. Noodle knew that star would come back for revenge so noodle came up with a cunning plan a plan so foolproof that it wouldn’t fail.

Noodles plan was to lure star in and make them join them to take over this world for good but Noodle realised that Star would need to be baited in they could use nova again but that would be obvious so Noodle sent out a few spies to go find someone that star cared about. It took a few days but the spies reported back to Noodle that Star had a love interest called Hana “perfect” noodle says chuckling “Get Hana here now i have an offer for her” the spies nodded and went off to to their mission

The next day the spies returned with the fast asleep Hana in a small cage for easy transport. A few minutes later the sleeping hana is awaken startled and confused “Welcome hana! Do you know why your here”

Hana shakes her head “n-no..” Noodle smiles swaying their two tails. “Noodle has an offer for Hana for her and starlight to be in paradise together” Hana looked confused “Paradise?” Noodle causally explains to Hana how being in noodles paradise will make you happier.

“If it makes me and star happy..then what do you need me to do?” Noodle chuckles “All you need to do is eat those noodles and the rest will be explained later” Hana nods and willingly eats the noodles. Noodle smiles and takes the mind altered Hana to start he transformation.

After a long process and a bit of wish making Hana was ready since she was now a goddess under noodles rule. Now noodle only needed star under their wing and give them a boost in power then the final part of the plan was a go. The next day Hana was sent for their mission. The mission to lure star in and get the thing they wanted. That thing was the goddesses hybrid flower. The goddess hybrid flower was one of the most powerful things a mortal could own it could heal anyone in the entire world but if it falls into the wrong hands it can cause someone to become a mindless zombie to its caster forever

After a day Hana returned back to the temple with star closely following. Hana kneeled down beside noodle as part of their orders. Noodle welcomed star back but star wasn’t happy “HOW DARE YOU DO THIS TO HANA FIRST MY SISTER NOW HER” star screamed at noodle “Calm ok noodle is sorry so noodle will make you and Hana go to paradise together and make you like Hana! Just eat noodles noodles then everything will be ok”

Star being reluctant agrees if it makes Hana happy so after eating them Star put on a facade to keep noodle happy, since noodle forgot to add the chemicals in.

Noodle not having a clue did the transformation with star but Hana didn’t feel right about it. The fact that Hana lied to her lover to get them here was too much for her. After the crowning of star noodle took the amulet star was wearing and left them in peace for a few minutes. Noodle wasn’t expecting star and Hana to be plotting against them so when they got back in they were surprised how loyal they were to them.

Noodle smiles as they started to constantly bow and praise the young kitsune. They agreed to themselves that after this part is over Noodle will let them leave since they could intervene with their plans “Ok noodle wants you guys to hold hands and think about each other! Then you are free to go to paradise!” They both nod doing what noodle said. They started to glow and after a few minutes of this the goddess hybrid flower was made. Noodle thanked the two removed their memories of what happened and sent them far away so they wouldn’t intervene.

With this power Noodle managed to set it up for the mindless zombies and with the help of their engineers a mech suit was made (noodle had been planning this for a while) and with noodle inside their plan for world domination started they were approaching the village destroying trees as they walked but all of a sudden two figures appeared. It was star and Hana. “You...Why are you here I thought you guys will be happy and leave me alone” star shook their head ready to fight but a bit confused “what do you mean” they said “you don’t remember your creator?” Noodle states

“Creator...?” Hana says confused “Oh yeah I gave you your powers and thanks to that flower you guys made for me I am gonna TAKE OVER NO ONE CAN STOP ME” With a few quick movements Star was picked up by Noodle. “Couldn’t you see Noodle wanted the best for you so Noodle will give Hana a choice! Join noodle and we will rule together or I’ll make Star noodles mindless zombie”

Hana was furious “YOU LIED TO US TO GET PERSONAL GAIN HOW COULD YOU THIS WAS YOUR LAST MISTAKE... now you are gonna PAY!” Hana charging at noodles mech making star fall out of noodles grip. Noodle chuckles I did this for your benefit NOW YOU GO BACKSTABBING ME! Noodle looked down at the knocked out star “noodle will deal with you later” Noodle charged at Hana attacking her as she flew around “YOU RUINED EVERYTHING NOW LETS SEE WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT REMORSE AFTER I KILL YOU!” Noodle twitches with anger WhaT DO I KNOW ABOUT REMORSE?! WELL YOU TELL ME AFTER BEING RAISED HERE WITH CONSTANT BEATINGS HOW ELSE WAS I GONNA DO NOW LET ME WIN....LET Me...win... noodle started to shake and tear up

Hana stopped in her tracks confused. “Let...me win....for once in my life....I want someone...anyone to be proud of me....my family....Evan....please....just let me win.... Noodle was crying curled up in a ball screaming. Their previous scars and burns were visible. I....want to see my family again....I want someone to love me....for who I am....I just want a friend...

Hana stopped “friend...family... what do you mean?” Noodle explained what happened in the cult and how they arrived while crying in the mech seat. Hana flies up and breaks the glass of the mech seat and hugged the crying child. “It’s ok...it’s ok...” she says in a motherly tone “I forgive you...join us...we can be a family.” noodle sniffs “after everything I did...why are you....forgiving a mass murderer like me...” Hana went quiet her hands bloody from punching the glass “I don’t know....but I’m willing to put that in the past...” A remorseful Noodle climbed into Hana arms sniffling and still crying “thank you....Hana.. thanks for this....second chance at life....”

Hana smiles “enjoy it while it lasts and I’ll do the same..” they slowly float back down and the exhausted noodle and Hana were on the ground asleep. Star with all their strength left took the pair to safety and the cult which noodle ran was disbanded for now..

The end?

#oop #art #owo #uwu #idk anymore #oof #shitpost #meme #back story #oc #noodles #story #oc backstory

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whimsyful-moved · 7 years

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anyway, mary sues aren’t real and uncle al is gonna tell you all why

this got really fucking long so go under the cut

so let’s get this out of the way: the whole concept is bullshit, and i’m sure i’ll be told i’m reaching on this, but it’s sexist. i know that people bring up gary stus, but like. come the sweet fuck on. how often do you see that? i don’t doubt it happens, because of course it does, but the main brunt of ~criticism~ is thrown at girl characters. i would say it’s thrown at girls AND femmes, but we all know that nonbinary characters get fucking ignored. it happens to them, though, so. keep that in mind.

anyway, back on track. the whole concept is sexist, we’ve got that. it’s also obnoxious and sad to see.

when i was younger, like when i was a little ass kid new to the internet and new to writing publicly, my characters weren’t great. not by any stretch of the imagination. they were filled with idealism, they were representation for a character i didn’t get to see in media often. and by the way, i’d like to remind you that i’m white -- and if i felt underrepresented, kids of color were in a fucking representation drought. i was also a deep-in-the-closet Queer Ass, so that contributed to it, too. to top it off, i was also pretty mentally ill!! which, surprise surprise, led to some loneliness! so, think about that: a lonely ass kid who wanted something to relate to. lots of kids felt exactly like i did, and a lot of them felt worse than i did.

some of us, though, were writers. some of us turned to roleplaying or storytelling, and made our own characters to work out the complex feelings and fantasies we didn’t really know how to deal with at the time. a lot of us made... uh, really bad OCs. like, really bad. really bad. we didn’t really know how to write at the time, and we didn’t know exactly how characterization worked, technically, so we just went with our guts and had fun. we created characters that had better things going on than we did. it was fun!

until we learned the term mary sue, that is.

sidenote: i used to be that kid who hated what i thought were ‘mary sues’. whenever anyone defended them, i would get super pissed because how dare you defend someone just trying to have a good time! looking back on it now, it had a lot to do with jealousy. i was pissed they were having a good time with their writing while i worried about what other people would think of my character, to the point where i made husks who never received development, because i was too scared to develop them into something too ‘perfect.’

the original term is ‘mary sue’ -- defined as “an original character in fan fiction, usually but not always female, who for one reason or another is deemed undesirable by fan critics. A character may be judged Mary Sue if she is competent in too many areas, is physically attractive, and/or is viewed as admirable by other sympathetic characters” by Fanlore. this is the nice definition, by the way.

so, let’s look at this. this is taking a very thesis paper-esque turn but i promise i won’t break out google scholar. maybe. we’ll see. anyway.

PART ONE: TOO TALENTED

competent in too many areas. see, even when i was bitter fifteen-year-old, i kind of didn’t get this one. how many people have you met who were only good at one thing? off the top of my head, i can name, like, zero. even shitty people tend to be good at more than one thing. sometimes, these things can be related -- like if you’re good at guitar, you might be good at another instrument, like piano -- or they can be completely unrelated -- like, someone is amazing at makeup and is also a chemist. people tend to be good at a lot of stuff. i know of a fuckton of people who can sing, draw, write, play an instrument (or multiple instruments), are funny, can dance, and the list goes on. these are real people, by the way. i used to have a friend who was a gymnast, a singer, a piano player, an artist, a painter, amazing with animals, great at making friends... and she was good at all of these things, guys. if a real person can be good at a fuckton of things, why can’t a fictional character?

oh, right. because heaven forbid girls be good at more than one thing at a time.

there are so many multi-talented guys in media. i’m sure you can all name at least one savant male character. there are girl savants, too, but uh... everyone usually hates them. not shocking.

if real people can be filled with talent in multiple areas, so can a fictional character. so can an OC. it’s not unrealistic -- it’s ~unrealistic~ to have someone be good at one fucking thing.

PART TWO: PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE

this one is a fucking riot, because it’s so arbitrary. sorry, what is too physically attractive? like, come the fuck on. this one pisses me off the most because it’s not about how the OC looks, it’s about the fact that other people acknowledge it. if you have more than one character -- god forbid, more than one CANON character! -- acknowledge your OC’s beauty, she’s a mary sue. you’re thrown into the depths of mary sue hell. even if they don’t get together, which is a sin above all other sins, sorry, but you’re already done for. they already had a passing thought of “oh damn, she’s hot.”

now, yes, i will say that reading paragraphs of clothing descriptions and of how gorgeous a character is is boring as fuck. i get it. why do you think i have yet to read the odyssey?

but i have an idea for you. it may blow your mind.

who fucking cares?

i know. how succinct. who fucking cares that someone is writing some elaborate fantasy? who. cares. out of all the things in the world, that is hurting people the least. let someone write a whole eighteen paragraphs about how much naruto wants to bone their OC or self insert. who is it hurting? absolutely no one. who fucking cares, m8. who actually cares.

also, if you don’t think my gay ass is always gonna call all of my OCs hot, you’re wrong. do you think i pick these faceclaims for your sake? no. it’s because i want to look at a/ubrey p/laza as much as possible. duh.

PART THREE: WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN

“viewed as admirable by other sympathetic characters.”

what in the sweet fuck does that even mean. okay, i know what it means, but abstractly: what does it mean?

oh wait. i know.

it means that if ANY OTHER CHARACTERS LIKE YOUR CHARACTER YOU CAN EAT GARBAGE

sorry fucko, does good ol uh. does good ol johnny bravo have a poster of your OC on his wall? is your OC in any way remarkable? does your OC have a storied history that would lead other characters to know about your OC? sorry, but it’s just not realistic.

the first rule of OC making is to be miserable. remember kids, if your character isn’t acknowledged by a publishing firm or animated on your favorite cable channel, your character is basically not real. keep this in mind, because it’s the reason why CANON CHARACTERS CAN NEVER EVER EVER KNOW YOUR OC.

EVER.

for some reason, this is the crime people hate the most. in roleplay, you shouldn’t assume your character knows another character unless you and the other mun have talked before. you also shouldn’t push relationships onto other characters.

but OCs are the only ones who people assume will do this, because why would a canon ever do something so silly? they won’t they it, but it’s because people view canons as artistically superior to OCs. obviously. it’s really funny, because in the past, it hasn’t been OCs who pushed shit onto me. i know, right? i, a lowly OC maker, has been treated badly by a canon writer -- it’s kind of like saying that i, a peasant, was pursued by a king.

in fanfiction, though, this whole rule is extra silly. there’s only one writer, usually, so no one is getting treated badly. but if an author writes that their OC is perhaps more famous than the main canon character, that’s basically the worst, because no one can be BETTER than the canon main character. people will throw a fit about this. i’ve seen it happen. you probably have, too.

oh, and it doesn’t have to be so major. even if your OC is tangentially related to a canon character, it’s still bad writing. OCs are, like children, meant to be seen, not heard. except they’re not meant to be seen, either, they’re meant to appear briefly and leave as soon as possible. that’s a good OC.

it’s really funny -- it’s not considered bad to have harr/y p/otter and d/raco m/alfoy be secret lovers for the entirety of the series in your fanfiction, but throw in an OC better than h/arry (or h/erminone) and suddenly we need to start being realistic, guys.

PART FOUR: THE CONCLUSION

mary sues aren’t real. stop calling things mary sues, stop targeting OCs all the time, and if you care so much about bad writing, why not be consistent with it? some of your (and my) shows have fucking garbage writing and character development, but people are still able to love them, somehow. it’s transparent as fuck when you only target small creators and not huge businesses who are making money off of your so-called “dedication to good literature.”

to the OC creators reading this, you don’t have to be scared of making a character who is ‘too perfect.’ have fun. if you want to make a self-insert, do it. if you want to make a character who is completely fantastical, do it. you’re allowed, and it’s okay to just have fun with writing. you’re allowed to love your characters. your creations are just as worthy as published creations.

anyway. i’m tired of writing this, and i’m gonna just. slam that post button. this got uh. really long. anyway bye

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