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My inner monologue whenever I think of Ray
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stray-tori · 3 years
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TPN S2E01 Thoughts (anime-only)
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Opening thoughts so far
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of course this parallel which i already cried about in its own post. I just. my emotions. AHHHH-
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I’m not sure what it means but the cut from two hands forming a grid to the chains being aligned similarly and creating a chainlink fence. The hands covering someone's vision could be the deception of the farms or something of the like, especially since it comes after the shot with all the moms lined up. But those illusions are a prison, therefore the chains. I'm just not sure how it correlates to the post-escape. I guess the system/society overall
I rly just wanted to appreciate the smooth transition work haha
Another TPN server member pointed out its not two hands covering someone’s vision, it’s a demon and human hand, making a deal. I’m blind. Match cut still cool.
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I also can't believe my prayer for empty space composition got real. I JUST LOVE IT BECAUSE I WAS SAYING IT THE WHOLE TIME I was like "I hope they do a thing on the poster or something, where its framed like the three of them are there but norman's is just empty space" AND THEY DID IT!! ONCE AGAIN MY FEELINGS. IM SO HAPPY THEY DID IT BUT ALSO OUCH 
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The episode
A lot happened but it didn't feel rushed particularly for me personally, excluding the few shots it didn't stay on long enough to really make out anything (and you can pause on those so). They reference they've only recently entered this type of forest (implying they've been on the way for a while), and the forest before that wasn't as... "fantasy", they also referenced being up on a high point of view (likely the cliff they stand on at the end of ep12 or another high point they've been at) where they've seen the river.
The only thing that I feel could have used some time is Ray. Having him have that sort of resolution like 5 minutes in (when before he was sure he'd be dead and therefore didn't plan to take any responsibility for what happens after the escape) feels kind of weird, especially if we haven't seen Emma burdening that much by herself except emotionally and implied also for other activities (I feel that there's some setup missing for her leaving Ray to do the bait thing later in the episode).
I also think having a bit more time between the "oath" and him breaking down being like "I can't give up, I promised" (which was amazing angst, I approve) wouldn't have hurt, but it's also kind of a nice circle within the episode I guess.
Overall, they seem to be moving fast (although I'm not really bothered by it personally), but unless they directly contradict something from the manga, I think if someone wants more details, they can read the manga and add those informations into their experience! Not everything needs to be reiterated, sometimes. And so the anime can move forward faster, both for better and worse.
Haven't read the manga though so I don't know if that works the way I think it does.
But yeah. I feel like an earlier point would have been a good cliffhanger too, maybe around the time Emma faints?
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[About the carving in the tree]
What I assumed was that Ray gave them the clear signal, but if he didn’t returne, they'd gone looking for him and get hold up. So he carved that, i assume, to tell them what happened and make them go the other way instead of looking for him. Not that they'd listen probably but YKNOW.
I'm not entirely sure.
My friends and I had this whole tangent about “it'd be funny if the demons saw it and just showed up at Minerva's base. Minerva dead”
though I also assume that the coordinates are minerva internal stuff but then again the one scientist did just randomly lose the pen for krone to find so. yknow. idk if their system is the most competent in being secretive and not having a demon pick one up at some point haha-
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“ what do you feel about the general vibe of this new direction? ”
tainted anime-only but I'll try to give thoughts udsihsdj
Hmm I don't really have any particular feelings I suppose? I'm definitely excited though, I feel like even though the setting and feel has changed from kind of subtle thriller to like, out-right scary monsters and survival, the underlying kind of angst and sincerity stayed the same? I guess it could also be argued that since the anime put less focus on the internal planning and more focus on the character expression and stuff, it's not as extreme of a shift for the anime in a bubble.
I guess I initially thought TPN was kind of "grounded" - ..... aside from the yknow, big children eating demons - if that makes sense? But I think it's also interesting from a meta perspective that the outside or at least segments of the outside (since they said that the previous forest didn't have all those fish bugs and plants) are so fantasy based because in the bubble of GF house its kind of easy to assume the world is just kinda ours but slapped demons on top of it (so in a twist of events, the trapped children who grew up in a lie knew a lot more about their world than we did).*
So I think the fantasy direction is kind of interesting (i also find it interesting that it's only segments of the world, apparently, so I wonder if that has any implications for why the fish bugs and plants are limited to those regions aside from... I guess just natural territory).
* which i also find interesting, because apparently they had a book on it in GF. Which heavily implies that either those things existed before the demons or the demons didn't "take over" fast enough to stop the making of books that depict those things. So I guess really the fantasy elements for them in-universe aren't really surprising. It was kind of surreal, watching them talk about them so normally when so much of the setting up until now was very non-fantasy (again, demons aside of course)
I wrongly assumed the last book being from 2015 implies that the demons took over then, but that contradicts another observation I made before and I totally forgot about but I like it more. So I’m going to redirect you there: Year Count based on demons thoughts
It’s probably gonna go more into demon stuff and all that so that's cool and I'm curious. I'm still not sure if the two new demons designs imply that they're lesser or not, because they have those masks that essentially "fake" what other demons seem to have naturally (the multiple eyes, the horns) but I'm not sure if that means they use that to substitute or if it's the other way around. It kind of feels like paying tribute to those characteristics but I can't really... explain it well haha
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themightyaliendwarf · 3 years
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TPN s2e01 - no manga spoilers
I have seen a lot of people complain about the pacing of the first episode. And while I do have to admit that there was no time to breathe between the scenes, I don’t think it’s a bad thing.  CloverWorks clearly wanted to end the first episode on reveling that Sonju and Mujika are demons. I think that was a good idea because it: 1. Shows that this season will be different than people expected 2. It’s a great cliffhanger  I know, because of that the events of chapters 39 and 40 are skipped, but I wouldn’t say they were that important. Even without it the truth about the adventure book by Minera is revealed. Sure, it does add more to worldbuilding, but since those trees are never used before, I don’t think it was crucial to include them.  I think that they speed-up the pacing in the first episode, so they can give us more content in the episodes to come. Or at the very least, I truly hope so because I want that season to be good and not rushed. So, CloverWorks, Shirai, I have faith in you
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Me at how they included Phil and Norman in this last bit of the official collaboration music video for the S2 ED as part of what’s going to keep Ray moving forward now that he doesn’t want his story to end anymore
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Piggybacking off the tags of my previous post but it pains me to think of how Takahiro Obata still went balls to the wall for the new tracks in S2 even after TPN Committee gave up on making a satisfying adaption. The choral backing of this track that plays during the pursuit of the first wild demon the kids encounter in S2e01 (but before the pursuer demons from the farm show up) enhances the gravity of the situation they find themselves in, elevating it beyond the surface layer of their singular, individual encounter to one of another plane where they’re fighting for their very souls, underscored with percussion to ramp up the tension and then the introduction of the brass for a grand sense of triumph. This is taking advantage of a medium shift.
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