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#TPN 181.2
fullscoreshenanigans · 9 months
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Hello!! I'm really sorry, but could you do a summary of the Krone and Isabella light novels? I can't find anywhere to read them. thank you so much!!
No need to apologize, happy to help!
I've talked about the contents of the first light novel here. Almost all of it is available either translated in text or via sound dramas with English subtitles. The exception is the "NER in Bird Cages" story, which is only available in English as a summary.
I've provided a general overview of the second light novel here, as well a link to the masterlist of TPN content for the English-speaking fandom. The first half is dedicated to Isabella, and the second half to Krone, though if you've read chapter 181.2, you'll already be familiar with most of it.
If one of the stories is part of the content of a post, I'll usually tag it as light novels, the title of the light novel in question, and the title of the specific story. (e.g., TPN Light Novels + Moms' Song of Remembrance + The Starry Sky and Leslie's List)
Here's all the light novels laid out with their story tags (with the exception of the fourth one because I've only read the half that's translated):
Light Novel 1: A Letter from Norman
• "The Ghost Incidents at Grace Field House" - Norman reminiscences about his earliest memory with Emma and Ray, when they were about three or four, trying to solve the mystery of the spooky occurrences around the house. • "The Day Emma Cried" - Norman recalls an incident when he was about seven and became terribly ill retrieving Emma’s handkerchief during a rainstorm. Thinking he’s on death’s doorstep, with Isabella’s permission (to both appease Emma and test Ray’s loyalty), Emma and Ray go out to find the miracle cure, a white flower that only blooms at night. • "NER in Bird Cages" - Norman muses how he's never seen Ray cry before he remembers the incident where they rescued an injured bird sometime after Emma's ninth birthday. Ray deals with the grief of not being able to save his beloved older sister, Susan, if he wants to save Emma's and Norman's lives. • "A Gift from the 39th Girl" - The Grace Field kids secretly work on putting together a gift for Norman’s eleventh birthday.
Light Novel 2: Moms' Song of Remembrance
• "The Starry Sky and Leslie's List" - Isabella's story where she remembers helping Leslie with a list of goals he set out to accomplish over the course of two days before he's shipped out. She also reflects on her relationships with Ray and Sarah. • "Searching for the Skies of Freedom" - Krone's story; chapter 181.2 is a retelling of this.
Light Novel 3: Records of Comrades
• "Two Paths" - The story of how Lucas and Yuugo's group acquired the tea set we see Yuugo with in the bunker, interspersed with scenes of Lucas interacting with Emma and Yuugo interacting with Ray during the present timeline. • "Two Wills" - Gillian and Nigel's story of their earlier days at Goldy Pond when they both lost their sisters, Lala and Emilia. • "Two Destinies" - The story of how Mujika and Sonju met and how Leuvis inadvertently ended the farm system and thousand-year promise because he was bored.
Light Novel 4: Films of Memories
• "The Days to Celebrate" • "Operation Stormy Night" - The Grace Field children reminiscence about the night their older siblings helped them feel safe during a particularly bad storm. • "Ray and Conny" - The Grace Field kids are telling Emma about their life at Grace Field house when Conny comes up. Ray recalls to himself how he helped three-year-old Conny adjust to sleeping in the larger shared bedrooms with some indirect help from Susan. It's a story only he and Norman know now. • "The Chess Proverb" - Ray teaches Norman how to play chess, and Emma and Norman join in a match with Ray against Isabella. Serves as a metaphor for how each of them approaches a problem and how they balance each other out when they work together. • "Don and Gilda" • "The Guiding Star" - The story that explains how the trio got on the roof for the chapter 119 cover art and the comfort they each draw from the stars.
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On Cecile's plan including the destruction of the sisters' embroidery and Cecile embodying the figure of the traitor
I'm really going through it now. Okay you know that unconsolable dread one is afflicted by when history goes lost. Ancient libraries burning, historical art pieces being destroyed; it shakes to the core, because to destroy books and art and historical artefacts means to destroy the last items that carried the memory of people long gone; and doing so means killing them again, once and for all. Because if there's one thing more scary than death, that's the thought of being forgotten forever; then, you won't just be dead, but you'll cease to have ever existed.
I needed to preface that because no sane person would do that of their own will; it's going against the natural emphaty all humans share and that is ineherently human; it's going against one's own humanity.
But that's what Cecile did when she threw the sisters' embroidery to flames. The history of sister after sister who fought against the system, a legacy of trainees hoping in a better world, hoping that even where they failed, someone else could still succeed. Young, abused girls who still believed escape was possible, that a world of freedom could be real. And Cecile threw all of that away. She killed those girls again, and that makes her ruthless. And she did that because she loved another person.
And to do that because you love another person. To do put everything, everything on the line to grant their survival. To go against your own humanity just because your love for them is stronger than anything. To selflshly (can I say that?) condamn every. other. person if it's to save the person you love. To be willing to have them hate you till they're alive, as long as they stay alive.
Like idk I don't think we talk enough about Cecile as the figure of the traitor. Because she intentionally made herself guilty of betrayal thrice at least. She betrayed the system; when she put Krone's survival over hers, going against all the principles the mama system is based on. She betrayed all the sisters that came before her and that had entrusted her with the embroidery as a way to escape; to make Krone appear innocent. She betrayed Krone, by framing her; to grant her survival. And all of that- all of that, she did for Krone.
It's funny- in Dante's depiction of Inferno, the deepest circle of hell is where traitors get punished. The circle is divided in four rounds; on the first round are punished the traitors to family. On the second, traitors of the nation. The third is for hosts who betray their guests. The fourth is for traitors to their lords / benefactors / masters. It's curious, Cecile kinda fits every category: she betrayed her family (Krone), the nation (the system), the guest (the mama structure that gave her a new place opposite to sure death, though this one is a stretch); the benefactors (her seniors, the sisters that came before her and gave her the means to escape). The last round is dedicated to the punishment of what Dante deems the worst sin a man can commit: the betrayal of your own benefactors. The people there - Judas, who betrayed Christ, and Brutus and Cassius, who betrayed Caesar - are forever damned to be incessantly eaten by Lucifer.
Cecile is the epitome of traitor. Not a traitor like Minerva Norman, who tried to kill Emma's friends when she was away in order to pursue the greater good; she's probably a closer traitor to GF Ray, who gave the lives of other children in exchange of the sole survival of the people he loved because he thought there was no other way. Who was willing to be hated by them for that, as long as they would have survived.
If after dying she was sent to Dante's Inferno, she would end up in the last rounds of hell. She tainted herself of sin, and she did all of that for love.
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brave-symphonia · 3 years
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I don’t know if this is meant to be remembering their childhood or if it’s meant to be the afterlife where they’re meeting again after Krone died in the first arc, but I really want to choose to believe it’s the latter.
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airspeedprime · 3 years
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The Promised Neverland Manga Review - Chapter 181.2
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themightyaliendwarf · 3 years
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TPN - Moms' Song of Remembrance
So! I'm finally done with the second light novel (I had some free time, so I decided to read the whole thing since it's quite short), and I have some thoughts. But first, let's cover the basics.
Moms' Song of Remembrance is the second TPN light novel (the first one being the Letter from Norman) and, I believe, it still doesn't have the English translation. It was published in Japan along with the volume 12 of the manga, and it consists of two stories - one about Isabella and the other one about Krone (actually, in Polish the novel is named "Memories of Mother and Sister" and I think this title is a bit more fitting).
Without spoiling anything, I gotta say, I liked the first novel better. It doesn't mean that this one is bad or anything! I just feel like the first one had more to offer. In Letter from Norman we find out how lives of our main characters looked like before we met them. And while we could easily fill in the gaps ourselves, I think those 4 short stories we gave us a lot of content. Now, I don't want to talk about the first light novel too much, so let me just say this - A Gift of the 39th Girl. This one story spawned so many fanworks and theories that it fully justifies the existence of the entire novel. But, to be fair, I think the story about the bird was a looot better (heck, it even made me cry!).
So, while the first light novel adds things we could image ourselves, the second novel rather focuses on the stuff we already knew. Okay, this sentence fully applies to the first one, but it is only partly true for the Krone's story (I will talk about it later).
Then again, I wouldn't say it was a bad read. The writing style is definitely better than in the first novel. The pacing is good, the characters are well-portrayed and the stories themselves are well-crafted. But I simply don't feel like this novel add much to world-building.
So, overall, if you are a TPN fan, you will probably like it, but it won't be life changing or anything.
Now onto spoilers!
The first story takes place during Leslie's last 3 day at Grace Field. Apparently, his grades weren't very good and he himself was a shy, taciturn person who wasn't athletic. But, before he leaves the orphanage, he wants to complete 9 things from the list he wrote. Or rather, Isabella convinces him to try to complete all of those things... and it doesn't go so well.
Now, I like the concept. Although predictable, I think it gave us a good opportunity to get to know young Isabella and Leslie better. I really like they weren't just carbon copies of Emma and Norman, because I was kinda afraid they would go for an obvious parallel. Fortunately, they didn't. They both seem like two new, separate characters who exist in this world.
About the plot itself, I liked the execution. I like that Leslie wasn't able to finish all of his goals, but, despite that, he wanted to try. Which is a good thing to have in mind - you don't have to set your goals by compering to others. Think about what you are good at, and what you want to achieve. Maybe Leslie wasn't able to read every book from the library, but he sure master that Chopin's piece (btw. Polish pride).
Also, I liked how this novel explained why Isabella decided to climb that wall. It was also interesting to find out that she had to live in the orphanage with the knowledge of the truth. Kinda like Ray did. Btw. speaking of Ray. Fun trivia #1 from this short story - Isabella's and Ray's hair get very messy after washing. Fun trivia #2 from this short story - Ray actually broke his transmitter on that day when Isabella found out that he knows the truth.
So, yeah, I liked this story. While it didn't give us a lot of new stuff, I think it was pretty good.
Onto the second one... it's chapter 181.2.
And this is why I said the second story focuses on the things we already knew, but not really. Because for Japan, it was new. But for us, since we got the chapter 181.2 first, this story doesn't really provide us anything new.
And that's why I don't really have anything to say about. I think it's a great story, but, because I already knew exactly how it will go, I couldn't fully appreciate it.
On that note, the second story was disappointing in my eyes, but, then again, it's still a good story. It's subjectively better than the first one!
Oh, and one more thing. This picture:
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Two things: 1. Where is Ray? 2. Stop bullying Norman. He has done it enough himself already. but if you must, bully anime!Norman. He deserves it :P
(It's a great picture, btw, I'm just nitpicky)
So, to sum up: it was fine :D If you can, go ahead and read it. You will probably enjoy it
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Wow can you believe Krone and Cecile invented lesbianism in 2031
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No because. Because. Krone said "I couldn't keep living on my own if it wasn't for you". So it had to be part of Cecile's plan for Krone to hate her. Because otherwise Krone wouldn'thave been able to keep on living without her, and Krone's living was the most important thing for Cecilie. I need a minute.
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Falling in love? 😳😳 Falling i love with who? 😳😳😳
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WHERE are you reading the light novels ohmigoodness
In addition to sound dramas and links I mentioned in this post, @1000sunnygo has graciously compiled what I believe is the most extensive master list of TPN material in the English-speaking fandom: https://1000sunnygo.blogspot.com/2021/10/the-promised-neverland-masterlist.html
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Love the symmetry of these covers.
I already touched on what can be found in A Letter from Norman, and Sunny already outlined what can be found in the fourth one, so I’ll just briefly go over the second and even more briefly touch on the third since I haven’t read it in its entirety yet. (gotta savor the content 👌😩)
☆ The second light novel, Moms’ Song of Remembrance, released in January 2019, is split into two stories:
1. “The Starry Sky and Leslie’s List” (translated by c72684 here)
Isabella remembers helping Leslie with a list of goals he set out to accomplish before leaving Grace Field two days before he’s shipped out. It’s book-ended by segments set on January 15, 2046, where Isabella briefly chats with Phil, reflects on her relationship with Ray, and finds new purpose now that her children have proven she was wrong about escape being impossible.
(It’s roughly 52 pages in Word at 12 point Times New Roman font single spaced if one is wondering about the time commitment.)
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2. “Searching for the Skies of Freedom” (translated by @standreamy​ and 14thNeah; many thanks!) (It’s roughly 64 pages in Word using the aforementioned standard)
This was eventually turned into chapter 181.2 that features Krone during her first month of training to be a sister candidate where she reunites with her elder sister Cecile. The gist of the story is kept the same, however, the novel also:
Confirms sister candidates have the electronic chip surgery the day they arrive at HQ.
Expands upon the training sister candidates go through, specifically incorporating scenes of self-defense training and one on medical training. It’s also noted that cooking is not a priority for sisters during their first regiment of training; that’s only if they retrain to become one of the kitchen staff, which is one path of retraining they can take in the event they can’t secure a sister position at one of the plants. Others are teachers, child caretakers, and doctors/surgeons. (The better to keep them stratified and make it more difficult to fight the system.)
Has more scenes between Krone and Cecile.
Briefly looks into Grandma’s thoughts during the panel where she holds the embroidery with the map of HQ on it as a trophy.
Briefly features the scene in chapter 23/S1e07 where Smee gives Krone the Minerva pen.
☆ The third light novel, Records of Comrades, released in October 2020, is split into a prologue and three stories:
1. “Two Paths”: A story about Yugo and Lucas’ time at Glory Bell. 2. “Two Wills”: The story of Nigel and Gillian’s first few days at Goldy Pond. Nigel’s sister, Lala, and Gillian’s sister, Emilia, who are both briefly shown in chapter 77 are featured in here.
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3. “Two Destinies”: The story of how Sonju and Mujika first met. Legravalima, Leuvis, and Yverk also appear in here.
(The document I have is 133 pages in Word at 14 point Verdana font single spaced.)
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Krone and Cecile - Special side story 2: Seeking the Sky of Freedom
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Thinking about her 🥺🥺🥺
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Hot take:
Krone trying to reclute Gilda in the first arc because they can bond over being gay for their older sister / best friend
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brave-symphonia · 3 years
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This makes me a little sad. But happy at the same time. I’m glad to find that Cecile was trying to help Krone survive for longer in the demon world and that’s why she betrayed her. But Krone still died to Isabella and the demons. So what she did ultimately may not have mattered in the long run.
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brave-symphonia · 3 years
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I never thought I wanted to know about Krone’s history, but I’m kind of glad for this chapter. I’m glad that TPN is getting more chapters delving into character’s pasts. First Ray, now Krone, and it sounds like another chapter is coming next week.
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brave-symphonia · 3 years
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Oh, so this is how Krone learns how cruel this world can be. She was betrayed by the only friend she had in the farms.
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brave-symphonia · 3 years
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And there their entire plan falls apart.
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