#Mobius 25 years later
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Isekai'd As My Past Self (Sonic the Hedgehog AU Story)
Being a fan of Isekai Anime (currently watching Villainess Level 99: I May Be the Hidden Boss but I'm Not the Demon Lord), I think it was inevitable for me to come up with a story like this.
However, before I start with the actual premise of the story, I first want to explain the setting though. This story is based on the trope of the main character dying or getting executed in some way, only to reincarnate as their past self (think along the lines of 7th Time Loop: The Villainess Enjoys A Carefree Life Married To Her Worst Enemy!), but with the caveat of having all of their future self's memories.
In this case, the story's starting point would be Archie Sonic's Mobius: 25 Year Later and Mobius: 30 Years Later storyline, with the main characters featured being King Sonic and King Shadow - or rather, their past selves before the events that led into 25YL/30YL took place. Silver would also be a major character in this due to his time-travelling shenanigans.
Before I dive into the plot properly, I will leave a warning here. If you read my previous analysis in regards to this storyline, King Shadow (The Altered Future & The Altered Character) & King Shadow (The Alternate Story), you would know that I don't like 25YL/30YL at all and therefore, I'm planning on not only deconstruct it, but completely destroy it in this AU story.
So, if you are a fan of the 25YL/30YL, the King Sonic storyline or the Sonally pairing, I'm recommending you to NOT read this AU story. If you do read it regardless of my warnings, don't come crying into the comments about how much you hate it. There is a reason I have warned you at the start and I'm not pulling any punches with this one.
With that said, let's dive into this story, and if you are curious about the additional text, it is the translated lyrics of the opening song of Villaines Level 99, titled LOVE or HATE?, which I was listening to while writing the story (the links lead to the TV Version and Full Version respectively). Honestly, if this were an anime, I'd probably use that song as it's theme song.
The Future
For example, if I let my hair sway a little
Will the voice I hear be LOVE or HATE?
Do whatever you like, no matter what they say
I won't stop walking
The story starts out sometime after the Sonic Universe Issue #5-#8. Take note, Mobius: X Years Later is, going by Pre-SGW canon, a possible ''What if'' future, not the canon future of Pre-SGW canon, which means that the events leading up to it were probably different than what we saw in later parts of Pre-SGW, but the timeline itself would probably similar enough.
The main focus would be on King Sonic, who is actually quite unhappy and bored with his life as the King of Light Mobius, thinking back to his past adventures and longing for the freedom he had, which is basically the core aspect of his character.
Before anyone starts arguing about why Sonic would be unhappy with his current life, take note that he actually expressed unhappiness in canon, specifically saying how he is not fit to be King, with Sally outright dismissing his feelings on the matter. Admittedly, this was also written by Ken Penders, who has no clue how Sonic works as a character and despite raising an interesting character point, quickly drops it like a hot potato.
Still, it is the one line I 100% agree with - Sonic is not fit to be a King.
This is why this AU story exists, as I want to dive in further into Sonic's thoughts on being a King. There would even be one event where another villain appears and King Sonic springs into action, only for Sally to literally stop him in his tracks, pointing out how he has other people that can handle this (this being a callback to a similar argument they had in Issue #134, where Sally basically told Sonic that he shouldn't throw himself in danger, especially since he's her consort and that they have other people fighting for them, meaning Sonic should stay by her side and rule with her - with Sonic refusing).
This is a similar case, with the addition of Sally telling him how he's the King and that he needs to think of his family and his people, how he can't go fighting like this since he's not anymore in his prime, and so on. All of which are valid points, but go against Sonic's core character.
King Sonic would obviously want to do the smart thing and keep Sally happy, but at the same time, wonders if it's really selfish that he also wants to be free from all of his duties as the King and go back to his adventuring lifestyle. Whether he wants to admit it or not, he has come to regret becoming King in the first place, but now that he made his choice, he cannot escape it.
As King Sonic thinks about this, he learns that King Shadow is back once again to cause chaos and, with other characters being conveniently absent, he goes to confront him despite Sally's wishes. King Sonic learns that King Shadow is on the search of some Mystical McGuffin Crystal (placeholder name, think of it like the Paradox Prism from Sonic Prime) that would help him once again to assert his rule over Light Mobius (as he tried to do with Tikhaos previously).
The two end up in a battle, with the Fake King Shadow sneering at King Sonic for not standing up to him and wondering where Sonic's fighting spirit had gone. This is the last straw for King Sonic and he tackles Fake King Shadow into the Paradox Crystal (not very imaginative, but hey, better than the actual placeholder name), causing it to shatter and the two getting engulfed in a bright light before everything around them turns dark.
The Past
Unstoppable news
They'll forget it tomorrow
Today is better than yesterday
Believing leads to a big victory
Sonic awakens suddenly, standing on a stage surrounded by the royal family and the people of the Acorn Kingdom. He is in a daze, wondering what had happened, with the first thing he notices is that he is much younger, being a teenager once again, and wonders if his battle with King Shadow and the whole Light Mobius future was just a dream.
He is then suddenly addressed by Sally, who asks him to finally make their engagement official to the public, but Sonic, still confused and baffled, and unable to comprehend what had just happened, just utters the following:
''No... I need... Shadow.''
He then leaps off the stage and quickly runs off to find the Faker and get the answer in regards to what had happened.
He eventually finds Shadow, who is equally baffled by what had just happened, although he managed to get an understanding of the situation faster than Sonic, and the two get into another fight, just to take out their frustrations on each other.
During the battle, they come to the conclusion that they somehow time-traveled back into the past, awakening as their younger selves right before the events that would set up the Light Mobius story had happened. In this past, they had just a major victory against Dr. Eggman and, as part of the celebration, Sonic and Sally, who had just made up and started dating again, wanted to make their engagement once again official - at least until Sonic ran off to find Shadow.
In other words, while one could argue that they pulled a Silver, this isn't a situation where they can just change the past and travel back to their own future. Instead, they got the opportunity to relive their past while also having the memories of their future selves. In other words, they are free to do whatever they want with the knowledge they have.
As they process this realization, Sonic accuses Shadow of becoming a tyrant again, and Shadow responds how the only reason he had done that was because even after Dr. Eggman was gone, other villains attempted to take over his place as the Big Bad and Shadow was the one who dealt with them to ensure peace. Had he gone too far in his mission? He did, but he felt that there was no other option for him left. There was power vacuum and he filled it by becoming a tyrant.
Sonic also realizes that, with him being back in the past as his younger self, he also got his own wish granted. He is not King Sonic anymore and he could easily go back to the adventuring he always wanted, enjoying the second chance, the freedom he had been granted. At the same time, he feels guilty because this would mean that the future he knows might not exist anymore, and it is through his own fault, even if he doesn't know the details.
Therefore, Sonic's main inner conflict here would be that he is torn between his desire for freedom and the duty he had towards the Acorn Kingdom as the future King, while Shadow's inner conflict would be his desire to protect the world through any means necessary and whether he should temper his more violent and cruel tendencies.
To make things more complicated, they are suddenly joined by Silver, who came from his own future to inform them about a looming danger that is threatening to tear up reality, with Sonic and Shadow realizing that they're responsible for this and have to work together now to fix their mistake.
This would be the main premise of the story.
The Present
Sync with the rhythm
I want to be swaying
But the outsiders are noisy
Noise canceling
As the story resumes, further details are revealed about Sonic and Shadow's current situation and the true nature of the shattered Paradox Crystal.
Through Silver's investigation, they learn that he Paradox Crystal was a powerful artifact that had the power of bending time and space by granting the user their innermost desires. This explains why Sonic and Shadow have returned back to the past as their younger selves, as Sonic's desire was to have his freedom back, while Shadow's desire was to have the power to protect the world in his own way. Not only that, but the shattering of the Crystal had also tampered with Sonic's own Chaos Energy, putting him in a similar state of agelessness as Shadow, which would allow Sonic to always remain in his prime so he could protect people and keep the world safe.
The three hedgehogs also learn that, before Sonic and Shadow, there was a different Entity that sought out the Paradox Crystal, but got trapped inside it and the Crystal getting shattered released it, which resulted in the Entity gaining the power to slowly fracture reality. To fix this mess, Sonic and Shadow would need to find the pieces of the Crystal that have scattered across the world like the Dragon Balls and bring them together. The reason why it is them who have to do this is, aside from personal responsibility, they're the ones among very few people who can actually detect and handle the Crystal's power and presence.
Sonic is excited to go on this adventure, only to get startled by a furious Sally calling for him and promptly hiding behind Shadow, as he doesn't want to confront Sally's wrath, yet. Shadow, in response, just rolls his eyes, while Silver is confused about what is going on. Basically, by Sonic saying ''No'' and running off earlier, Sally believed that she got shot down again and wants to give him a ''What the hell, dude?!'' speech about Sonic not caring about her feelings or even thinking about the situation for that matter.
Sonic attempts to explain himself, but is interrupted by Shadow, who tells Sally that reality is in danger and that's why Sonic ran off. This way, he also stops Sonic from accidentally revealing that he has memories of his future self, later explaining to Sonic that he doesn't really trust Sally with using any of that information. He points out that, while she can be proactive, when he started his tyrannical rule, she literally did nothing to undermine him, meaning that she still lacks some of decisiveness on her part.
Sally figures that, if things are that bad, then they should call the Freedom Fighters for help, although she would also have to discuss the matter with the Council of Acorn, as per the current rules, they cannot really act without getting the Council's approval.
Sonic, having enough of the Acorn Kingdom's politics and bureaucracy, decides to set out on his own, with only Shadow as his companion. He refuses to be anymore under the control of the government, be it the King or the Council, making the decision to work on his own.
He is here to protect them, not to be controlled by them, and if they don't like it, he can leave. He can do more good for the world if he doesn't have to wait to be told what he is supposed to do.
While there would be people protesting against this decision, Sonic and Shadow are already off on their adventure, traveling all over the world for the Crystal Shards Sonic Unleashed-style.
They would also face several opponents who would want the Crystal Shards for themselves, like Dr. Eggman, Ixis Naugus and Geoffrey St. John, and Scourge and the Destructix (perhaps even meeting Anti-Shadow and Anti-Silver if they have to travel to Moebius).
Oh, and one more thing - the engagement with Sally is off.
The Freedom Of Choice
For example, if I trace my finger a little
Will your choice be LOVE or HATE?
Do whatever you like, make your cheeks turn red
And spitting, boy
As I had mentioned before, the main inner conflict for Sonic would be the choice he would make in shaping his own future.
The expectations from people in-universe, as well as the reader, would obviously be that Sonic follows all the steps that leads up to the Light Mobius future (e.g. marrying Sally and becoming King), as that is the selfless thing to do, something that is expected from the main hero. Set right what was done wrong and follow the path to the anticipated happy ending.
But, is that really the ending that would make Sonic happy? This is a question Shadow would ask Sonic, wondering if he would really be happy to stay at one place, figuratively shackled to the duties of a King and abandoning who he is at his core.
In this story, Sonic would ultimately refuse to give up his freedom.
He will admit that, in the previous timeline, he did it to make Sally happy, but not himself. As a matter of fact, that was something everyone expected him to do, as they were the power couple and all that stuff, and he tried not to look back on the ''What If''. For him, there was no ''What if''.
However, now that he got a second chance, he decides to be selfish and do something for himself, especially when he experiences this sense of freedom once again by travelling all over the world, meeting new people and go on adventures.
The future itself is regarded as a huge ''What If''. Sonic has already experienced a future where he is the King and he wasn't happy about it. The question is, should he continue sacrificing his own happiness for the sake of others or actually be a bit selfish for his own sake? He doesn't even know how he ended up back as his younger self, so is he even allowed to change the present and the future? Would he be the villain because of that?
After all, it is not as if he would immediately return to the supposedly set Light Mobius future even if he fixed the Paradox Crystal. He was brought back to relive his past as he sees fit and he will be stuck in his teenage body with no way to jump into the future. So, either he can live through the whole experience again or just choose a different path.
Sonic would instead use the memories of his future self to help people, preventing any bad event flags from being triggered and protecting the world his own way. These changes in the present would obviously lead to the Light Mobius future not even being a possibility by default, allowing Sonic to live without regret.
Nevertheless, it won't be an easy choice to make and Sonic would keep doubting himself, which is why he would benefit from Shadow's presence.
Speaking of which...
The reason Shadow became a tyrant in the former timeline was to protect the world, ultimately losing himself in the process and feeding into his own delusions. When he returns to the past, he would still be in the mindset that he needs to protect the world by conquering it and eliminating any opposition. Sonic insists that he would be there to stop him, as he knows what Shadow is capable of.
Suddenly, Shadow gets furious, snapping at Sonic because the latter never saw just how bad it got before Shadow took over as a tyrant. As stated before, there was a power vacuum when Dr. Eggman died, leading to many other villains trying to take over, which basically made this whole situation a world-wide Game of Thrones. Shadow had to take over, because if he didn't, things could've ended up much worse.
Shadow also admits that he understands that everyone hated him, but he had to choose the ''ends justify the means'' option because he felt that there was nothing else left. Sonic, having gained a better understanding of Shadow's motives, would stop their fight and make an offer instead. He would tell Shadow that they could protect the world together as a team, especially since they have knowledge of the future and can use that to their advantage. Shadow would accept his offer.
The part that follows would focus on Sonic and Shadow's adventures across the world, where they would from time to time be aided by their friends, but ultimately, the story would be about them working together and developing a strong bond.
Now, that bond can be purely platonic... but if you are in any way familiar with my blog, you should already know that this would spiral into a Sonadow story.
If you don't like the ship or aren't a shipper yourself, you are free to skip the next part and resume at LOVE or HATE Story.
Sonic & Shadow - The Ultimate Duo
Differences in hobbies, differences in peace of mind
Even if I confuse you
My path is shaped by
Just LOVE or HATE
I'm certain that some don't like where this is going. Why should I write down such a story if one of its conclusions is a non-canonical ship? Well, if you still think the same, then you seriously should have skipped this part.
I had stated before that the story focuses on the concept of freedom and what it means to Sonic, and in this case, this choice would split off into three different paths. The first path would be following the set story, leading into the Light Mobius Future, aka the one this story will avoid. The second path follows a simple adventure plot, albeit going against the beliefs and expectations of the reader, with everyone gaining a happy, but platonic ending, which is where non-shippers should've stopped their read.
The natural conclusion would be that the third path follows the Sonadow Ending.
As stated above, in this path, Sonic would ultimately choose freedom over duty, which would make him ending up with Sally impossible. If he marries her, he becomes King and the Light Mobius future happens, which he wants to avoid in this life. So, distancing himself from any romantic relationships that would result in him being tied down, without him having any say in it, would be the next logical step.
If Sally questions Sonic about their engagement, he would tell her something along the lines of having thought about their future together, and he cannot see it happening anymore. He knows that a future with Sally means a future without freedom, and he knows that, the way he is now, they're incompatible.
Yeah, Sally (and the Sonally shippers) wouldn't be happy about that. After all, their relationship works on the idea of ''Opposites Attract'', which is probably one of reasons why people find it appealing. No offense to those who like the ship, but the issue that I personally see here is that ''Opposites Attract'' cannot work if the two sides are too opposing to attract each other.
In other words, Pre-SGW!Sally is too devoted to her kingdom and people and has stated time and time again that she prefers to settle down once this whole deal with Eggman is over.
Sonic does not work like that.
Sure, maybe Pre-SGW!Archie!Sonic would work, but I'm certain that by now, you have noticed that I'm writing Sonic's character with his Game!Self's characteristics in mind (and some helpful suggestions from Ian Flynn in regards to how he would approach Sonic being in a relationship).
First and foremost, Sonic is free as the wind. He would not settle in one place, even if he would visit it just to see his friends. He would keep travelling. He is not fit to be King (or even a father for that matter, even if he would try his best). His strengths lie in being an adventurer and he wants to fully embrace this side of him over the course of the story.
It has been a repeated statement in the shipping community that if you want to pair Sonic up with someone, this person should be a character who wouldn't warp who Sonic is at his core, but be able to keep up with him and accept his lifestyle. I have seen a debate about Sonamy, and while I find the ship cute and agree that Amy is someone who works hard to be recognized by Sonic, she too would be someone who'd prefer to settle down rather than always be on the move.
This brings me to the only person who not only recognizes Sonic's adventurous spirit and desire for freedom, but has immense respect for him, is capable of not only keeping up with Sonic, but even get ahead of him, and even if they argue, it is clear that both have the same goal in mind, even if their methods differ.
Look, I was never interested in shipping, so if you want me to like a certain pairing, you need to really convince me that it works and that the characters have chemistry and a charm to them.
Sonadow does have that chemistry and charm that makes me go ''Yeah, these two actually work together well.''
As for Sonic and Shadow, this adventure would definitely explore just how well they click together. To note, both Sonally and Sonadow are a case of ''opposites attract'', but with Sonally, they're just too different to work properly, especially when one is chained to duty and the other desires freedom.
Meanwhile, Sonic and Shadow are literally two different sides of the same coin, both never really settling anywhere and driven by their desire to protect their world, even if their methods differ. Both easily balance each other out and even them arguing, or just talking for that matter, sounds like them flirting more often than not. The only thing that needs to be added to their existing relationship is them becoming more vulnerable and open around each other, as it doesn't change what they already have or who they already are.
By spending so much time with each other, they would eventually realize that they have something going on and decide whether they'll fully embrace it or not, especially given their initial reservations about being in a relationship.
Sonic doesn't want to be tied down by anyone or anything and fears that he might lose his freedom again, while Shadow would be anxious about getting this close to someone again due to his own fear of losing someone important to him.
However, considering who the person is they're attracted to, they would realize that there really isn't anything to fear. Shadow would not take Sonic's freedom away from him, and Sonic basically has Main Character Syndrome, so there is no chance that he would die easily, at least not without a fight, something Shadow is well aware of by now.
Not too sure about how their friends would react to them being together, although I'm certain that they would be supportive.
Well, most of them.
LOVE or HATE Story
I did not intend to go this much into detail with this AU Story (which I came up with in a day, mind you), but once I started writing down the idea, I couldn't stop. Sure, there is probably more to write, but I would then have to start the story properly to add even more details of events and interactions.
While I'm somewhat interested in writing this out, I know well that this would end up in a very long story, and I already have other projects I'm working on, so this will remain as just as an idea.
I am open to discussing this story and what else can be explored and I'm eager to hear your opinion on it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I simply wanted to put this out in the public to hear other people's thoughts on it. If you love the story, than I'm glad to hear it. If you hate the story, well... *shrugs* I had warned you that I'm not pulling any punches.
I'm curious about your response!
#Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer (Masterlist)
#Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer#sonic the hedgehog#shadow the hedgehog#king sonic#king shadow#silver the hedgehog#isekai#sonadow#mobius 30 years later#sonic universe#archie sonic#idw sonic#mobius 25 years later#anti sonally#sally acorn
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i spent like 20 minutes in mspaint making this
#i am so fucking sorry#miles tails prower#archie sonic#sth#sonic the hedgehog#sonic#tails#tails the fox#tails prower#miles prower#mobius 25 years later#mobius 20 years later#or whatever the comic was called#i miss my wife tails#I MISS HER ALOT.
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Quick practice using copics again, pretty good outcome given I haven't used them in a while + shakey hands syndrome
#navii art#my art#sonia acorn#manik acorn#archie sonic#sth fanart#mobius 25 years later#<still do not like this arc and have a lot to say on it. but i like to work with what was made#idk. whenever i make up aus i try to stay as close to the source material as possible so i dont accidentally make something too ooc#tho you can def argue that the entire 25/30yrs later arcs were all ooc for everyone involved#so i guess im just trying to portray more natural evolutions of the characterizations without pender's.. questionable influences#do i think archie sonic would ever have kids and settle down? not rly. but if he did it wouldn't have been like 25/30yrs later#sonally#sonally fankids#k rant over#for now#or until someone wants to have a discussion about it
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Au Concept time!
25 yrs later Dark Mobius storyline except in addition to becoming the hero of Mobius when Sonic mysteriously disappears, Shadow also ends up forming a sort of rivalry with Scourge, who continuously antagonizes him and tries to take over Mobius as well. However, instead of Sally marrying Shadow to "fix him", Shadow gains more influence and following than any royalty on the planet, Scourge extends the "twin Kings of our worlds" offer to Shadow, and Shadow and Scourge develop a truce between their universes by getting married.
The former King Sonic returns to "his timeline" to find himself as a barely remembered figure, and to find monuments of King Scourge and King Shadow.
#sonic the hedgehog#archie sonic comics#shadow the hedgehog#scourge the hedgehog#anti sonic#shadourge#Archie shadow#archie sonic#mobius 25 years later#archie sonic au#king shadow#king scourge#Sorry not sorry I just think this concept is funny#Plus there's so much potential in developing this kind of rivalry/enemies turned political marriage#Working out how this would all come to pass#ultimately making Scourge a little obsessed with Shadow and working out the development of Shadow's own myriad of feelings#Highly interesting to me#Like they could literally turn out to be a fairly efficient power couple who manage to fill each other's niches#Or they could be like. Awful. Toxic. Always trying to undermine each other's missions or seriously hurt/kill each other without#breaking the truce#gonna call this one#King Shadourge AU#i just be ramblin
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in regards to the King Shadow arc the Archie comics had, I’ve never understood why Sally was just standing around while Shadow became a tyrant. You’re telling me she just gave up her power the moment they got married? That’s not the gal I grew up with >:/
So I made a minor AU where she became a tyrant too. Queen Sally proudly wears King Shadow’s symbol and his colors. Together, the two of them protect their kingdom by any means necessary.
#sally acorn#Queen Sally Acorn#sonic the hedgehog#Mobius 25 years later#Archie sonic#sonic the hedgehog au#does she love shadow? not really; but comparing him to Sonic’s passive attitude with the crown he’s the better choice#tho I’m not opposed to a slow burn as she realizes Shadow is not just ruthless; he shares her beliefs in justice#my art#the city’s on fire just cuz I was too lazy to make a bg of my own. sorry not sorry
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some headcanons for my rewrite of mobius: 25/30 years later, starting with the royal 'twins', Princess Sonia and Prince Manik Acorn, children of King Sonic and Queen Sally
(shown here in a recolor of their parents)
sonia (she/her) is the firstborn and a trans woman
her womanhood put her off the list for succession of the throne, which lead to a screaming fight between her and her mother over fairness and gender equality in the modern monarchy
she won this argument and would be the first Acorn queen to be unmarried and still ascend to queen status (sally was secretly hoping sonia would win this fight, as she also disagrees with the traditional monarchy rules)
she's a chipmunk like sally, but her fur has a pink tint to it due to genes on sonic's side. she also took his green eyes, and his mother bernadette's blonde hair (which she styles short like her mother did in her youth)
she has her parent's strong sense of justice and revolution and is always striving to make the monarchy better and make life better for all people
while history has repeated itself with the daughter wanting power and the son not wanting the responsibility, she gets along very well with her sibling, despite their different trajectories in life
manik (they/them, he/him) is a year younger than their sister and is nonbinary
most citizens use they/them pronouns for them, but friends and family will sometimes use he/him. mostly sonic, who likes having a son (and manik likes to be his son, feeling most comfortable w masculinity when it relates to their father and their relationship)
they get their baby blues from their mother, and their quills are a deep purple, a mix of their mother's red hair and their father's blue quills. their fur is dark like chipmunk fur, one of the only traits they take from that species
sonia got all the braincells. while they also have a sense of justice and righteousness, they're much more adventurous and take after their father that way, preferring action over beaurocracy
they're extremely friendly and virtually everyone that lives around castle acorn is on a first-name basis with the prince and would have at least one story to tell about something that they did with them
plays drums like a champ
when they were little, they were inseparable, called things like the Dynamic Duo, Tiny Trouble, etc
sonia would come up with a dangerous, hair-brained plan and her brother would be the one to execute it. flawlessly, every time. mostly. exploded microwaves and melted quills not withstanding.
while sonia wants to be queen and manik doesnt want to be king, he has agreed to help co-rule with her if she's unmarried and does want the help. sonia trusts her brother to actually be a good help to her and has accepted this offer for the future, though she's pretty sure she'll be okay on her own
sonia insisted on going to public school as a teenager, while manik was fine with having a private tutor as it gave them more time to goof off (so they thought. turns out tutors have homework, too)
they BOTH inherited super speed, and while they're not as fast as sonic, they're still faster than the average speedy Mobian.
theyve only beat their father in a race (without him letting them win) ONCE, and it was by using a cunning plan and teamwork to propel themselves forward and slow sonic down
only manik has broken the sound barrier and created a sonic boom, though. sonia thinks she could do it if she really tried, but she's not as interested in using her powers as her sibling is
#25AU#sonally#mobius 25 years later#i have no idea what freaks of this horrible KP arc tag it with#freaks including me btw i love M25/30 even tho it was BOTCHED!!!
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Opinion on Sonic universe issue 5 to 8 ?
oh i despise most of mobius 25/30 years later. i truly consider it to be a terrible future for the entire cast and one of my least favorite aspects of archie sonic.
i think sonic universe issues 5-8 have some interesting concepts they introduce like silver's appearance and tikhaos, but most of these concepts are unexplored and/or underutilized (silver is asleep for like half of the arc and there's never much explanation as to how tikhaos even exists as far as i remember. also sonic's five-year-old children are the ones to defeat it lol)
i have a lot of thoughts as to why mobius 25/30 years later just doesn't work but i'm real tired rn so i might do a better analysis later. gist of it is the concept of sonic being a king is flawed to the core and the entire cast settling down to have their little nuclear families makes me violent and amy and rouge aren't even THERE. also they made knuckles a cop
and oh man don't even get me started on my king shadow opinions
#i'm so sorry there really isn't much of archie sonic i actively hate but like. mobius 25 years later drives me crazy#tbh my king shadow opinions are a bit less hate-fueled since he's actually kinda interesting. but i still don't like it#fernasks#also COMPLETELY unrelated. but i love ur icon :]
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WAIT THE LARA SU CHRONICLES IS ACTUALLY COMING OUT SOON ? FOR REAL THIS TIME ?
#HEEEEEELP#wait i just looked it up and part of it is just a reprint of mobius 25 years later... WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG TO MAKE THEN#i am curious how exactly that would be handled though because hes trying to completely separate lara su chronicles from sonic#and m25yl has sonic characters he doesnt own in it#from what ive seen knuckles is still in lara su chronicles. he just changed his name and called it a day#is he gonna do that with sonic sally etc too or is everything involving them cut out#did the original m25yl stories even have anything going on plot wise#all i remember is people sitting around talking about nothing#and sally saying sonic and tails havent talked in years and me getting sooo mad about it because no that would not happen
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So, after a literal fucking decade, Ken "Squirrel Years" Penders has finally opened preorders for The Lara-Su Chronicles.
The first (and likely only) volume is a 160-page graphic novel. 140 of those pages are reprints of the original Mobius: 25 Years Later comics, with the final page of the final story being edited to lead into 20 pages of 'original' TLSC material.
Only way this man isn't getting sued is if SEGA don't give enough of a fuck to fight him.
#Sonic#Sonic the Hedgehog#Ken Penders#Ken 'Squirrel Years' Penders#The Lara-Su Chronicles#Archie Sonic#Mobius: 25 Years Later#Please sue his ass SEGA#It'd be so goddamn funny
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As has already been reported elsewhere, Penders recently took to his personal blog to announce a major milestone...
The first Lara-Su Chronicles book (which is mostly a Mobius: 25 Years Later collection) is real. The proof copy has been manufactured. These will be in peoples' hands in a matter of months.
We've already seen the godawful cover art plenty of times before, but I'd like to highlight how bad the back cover blurb is here. It's mostly background info with very little about the actual story. "Some characters would be married with families of their own. Others walked different paths. The fate of a world would be determined." That's all it says about what happens in the comic! The rest is inside baseball stuff. Not exactly a great hook.
However, I feel like this weirdness may be because Ken had to very carefully design the front and back cover so that it isn't selling itself as a new Sonic book. As we've discussed before, Ken regained ownership of all the stories he wrote for Archie Sonic after the settlement with Archie, as well as all the characters he created for the series. He's allowed to do whatever he wants with his old work and his own characters, but he's forbidden from selling new Sonic-branded products. They have to be distinct at a glance. Per the settlement, Sega needed to make sure Ken's future works didn't "have a look or feel as though they were part of a Sonic universe." This is one of the reasons why the cast has been redesigned in a new (bad) art style for The Lara-Su Chronicles.
So while the old comics reprinted inside the book still contain Sonic characters, since Ken can still use that existing material that was forfeited to him in the settlement, you'll notice that nowhere on the new front or back cover does Ken show a character owned by Sega. The only characters shown using their appearances from the original comics are Julie-Su and Lara-Su, who Ken owns. Knuckles has been replaced with his TLSC equivalent, K'Nox, who's probably juuuuuust different enough to be considered a legally distinct character. In the blurb, Ken can mention that he wrote the original stories for Sonic and Knuckles-branded comics, because that's just a factually true statement, but he can't advertise that the book he's selling contains Sega-owned characters like Sonic, Knuckles, or even Sally. They're just... "some characters."
I remain fascinated by the weird needle Penders has to thread here due to the very specific copyright situation he's found himself in.
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what if stc got a shitty mobius 25 years later story instead of exit sonic that just ignored random parts of the comic
i mean it already kind of ignores whatever tf was happening with super sonic in the og comic/that point of stco. idk what all mxyl did but mayb stc would have like. shortfuse x tekno and knuckles being a hardcore isolationist on his island and make robotnik frothing-at-the-mouth insane and oh well i've just reinvented stco as a whole.
#mewtuals#sorry i just remembered how mad stco makes me and i blacked out#i dont actually know if they did shortfuse x tekno but i think they did. idr idk
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King Shadow (The Alternate Story)
A while ago, I did an analysis on King Shadow from the Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie) comics, King Shadow (The Altered Future & The Altered Character), which is my least favorite take on Shadow the Hedgehog in official media so far. By the end of it, I had said that I might write down my take on King Shadow if you guys want me to, and I got a positive response. So, here is my concept.
Please note that this are my thoughts and if you have your own ideas regarding how you’d write King Shadow, I’d love to hear them.
First, I want to start off with the setting. King Shadow appears in the alternate future called Light Mobius in Ian Flynn’s continuation of Ken Penders supposed “magnum opus”, called Mobius: 25 Years Later... which is probably the worst Sonic story I have ever read. Ian’s attempts at fixing the story and turning it into something good fall flat mainly because the base of the story is really weak and while it has some interesting concepts, it really falls apart in the grand scheme of things.
The gist of Penders!25YL is that absolutely nothing happens until King Sonic is sent back at time to prevent a disaster and the story ends there. Ian!25YL picks the story up where it ended, explaining how King Sonic fixed the future, but it has been altered in such way that Shadow went on conquering the world for basically no reason and crowned himself king.
From what I understood, the reason why Shadow was written as an evil king was because at the time, he was still seen as an antagonist.
Now, thinking about the setting... I feel like we don’t even need it. Honestly, when I started writing this concept, I took a look at 25YL/30YL and decided to just Ctrl+Alt+Delete the whole thing and start with a blank slate. As a matter of fact, this doesn’t even have to take place in Sonic (Archie). It only has to take place in the Sonic Universe.
Next, the biggest issue I had was with was Shadow’s motivation for conquering the world - that being that he apparently had none. Admittedly, this seemed to have been somewhat expanded in Mobius: 30 Years Later...
If I understood correctly, the world had been at a war and Shadow conquered it to bring peace, but he turned into a tyrant in the process, using brute force to keep everyone in line. I think that this isn’t a bad motive, but it still needs to be worked on.
So, with the two main issues I had with this story (there are many more, but let’s focus on just these two for now), here’s my idea how the story might go. Once again, this is just a concept idea and if you don’t like how I wrote King Shadow, you’re free to tell me how you would write him.
Trigger Warning - It is quite brutal.
Shadow’s descent into becoming a tyrannical King would have its origins in a tragedy (yeah, I like to make the characters I love suffer), with the story starting off with Sonic and his friends being involved in another battle against Eggman. This takes place at a point where Shadow has opened up more to his friends, like Rouge, Omega, Sonic, etc. He has moved on from his past, accepting his new life and managed to forge several close bonds.
This confrontation everyone participates in is on a grand scale, think something akin to the battle during the Metal Virus Saga from Sonic IDW, and is incredibly brutal, with the consequences of it that most of the characters have been either killed or died due to their wounds. Sonic has somehow vanished during the battle, leaving Shadow as one of the few survivors. Having witnessed the demise of his closest friends, Shadow would be deeply affected by this traumatic experience, the memories of his past overwhelming him.
He had lost Maria, and just when he had come to terms with moving on and living life with his new friends, he now lost everyone he cared about. This would lead to him shutting down, or at least becoming closed off once again as he tries to handle the grief and survivor's guilt, with the only hope being that there wouldn't be any conflict because Eggman is also gone. The world is at peace now, isn’t it?
Except, that's not the case. New villains would rise and Shadow would see it as his own responsibility to go to the front lines to fight these new villains, over and over again. He is The Ultimate Lifeform, the strongest being in the universe, and he feels that he needs to soldier on and protect the world as he had not only promised to Maria, but to himself. He also refuses to get close to anyone else, because he doesn’t want to deal with another loss.
Eventually, he is called to deal with another conflict, this one being rather petty. It doesn’t matter what it is, but the point is that this is what finally breaks Shadow. He realizes that no matter how hard he works to protect the world, there would always be new conflicts, even for the most ridiculous reasons and people would continue being ungrateful for the peace he’s trying to create.
So, he decides to take matters in his own hands.
After all, Shadow is the Ultimate Lifeform. He is nearly invulnerable, he is ageless, he is incredibly skilled with Chaos Energy and can use the Chaos Emeralds to turn into Super Shadow. No one can harm him and, more importantly, no one can stop him.
In order to preserve peace, he takes it upon himself to conquer everything, crowning himself as King Shadow, and makes sure that all wars/conflicts cease. If someone attempts to cause trouble, he'll deal with them swiftly and, if they resist, brutally. Peace is finally brought back to the world.
However, one issue remains. Even though Shadow has achieved his goal of peace, he enforces it with an iron fist. People are living in fear of him and have to walk on eggshells as they believe that even the smallest argument or protest might get them thrown into prison or worse. They see him as a tyrant king, and Shadow knows that.
He knows that people fear him, but because of his immense power, no one would dare to challenge him. He doesn't pay mind to them though, as being ageless, he'll outlive them. His reign is absolute and no one can do anything about it. He is angry though, noting how ungrateful everyone is - they finally are at peace, yet they complain about it. He would, however, acknowledge that they're partially right - he knows that he's a tyrant for enforcing peace with an iron fist, but he doesn't care. It was a necessity.
Shadow is also dealing with loneliness, heavy trauma, survivor's guilt and understands that he twisted his promise to protect the world beyond recognition. He notes that he isn't doing this for Maria, but for himself. He knows that his old friends would be horrified by what he had done, by what he had become, but he saw no other way out of this situation. He knows that he is the villain here, and he has embraced that role fully during the time that had passed.
Then, some time during King Shadow's rule and him dealing with a resistance of some sort, Sonic suddenly appears seemingly out of nowhere.
Now, I haven’t really thought about what would happen to Sonic, but the general idea is that he may have experienced some kind of time travel, which flung him from the past into the King Shadow!Future. He may have even had some help from Silver.
Regardless of what happened to Sonic, he has talked to the leader of this resistance movement and learns not only about the deaths of his friends, but also about Shadow's tyrannical rule and decides to confront him. The resistance members, not really knowing what kind of person Sonic truly is, figure that Sonic is going to remove Shadow by force, possibly even kill him, and support him.
Shadow also hears about Sonic's return, and while he's shocked at first that Sonic has somehow miraculously survived the battle, he decides to prepare for their eventual encounter. Interestingly, he actually welcomes Sonic with open arms, despite being aware that Sonic wants to fight him, and when Sonic attempts to talk things out, he punches his rival.
This escalates into a battle between the two, where Shadow reveals what he had gone through and admits that he knows that he has become a tyrant and that people hate him, but he feels that he was too far gone to change. He had been hoping for that eventually someone would come and put him out of his misery - and Sonic is the only one who can do that.
So, the two fight, going all out on each other, with the battle ending in Sonic’s victory. However, instead of destroying Shadow, who is laying on the ground, defeated, Sonic offers him his hand, much to everyone’s shock. Sonic explains that he’d rather stay with Shadow and help him deal with his trauma, and the only reason he fought the latter was because he knew they both needed to blow off some steam without putting anyone else in danger.
Sonic explains to Shadow that they both dealt with a heavy loss and he is still grieving the death of his friends, but he isn't going to lose another friend, that being Shadow himself. Sonic wants to help Shadow heal, pointing out that he and Shadow had the same goal in achieving peace, except Shadow went overboard in his grief, and he doesn't consider Shadow a lost case.
While still in shock, Shadow accepts the proposal, grabbing Sonic’s hand and getting up, but is basically arrested by the resistance. They still want him to be punished for what he had done, and Shadow agrees to it, even if Sonic protests, because he feels Shadow has suffered already enough.
As it turns out, Shadow gets banished from his own kingdom, as they have no means of imprisoning him, and when the court debates on whether they can even do that, since they would have to trust that Shadow wouldn’t return on his own to take back his kingdom, Sonic replies that he’ll keep an eye on his the ebony hedgehog.
Once left alone, both Sonic and Shadow are aware it will take a while to heal from what had happened to both of them, but Sonic is just glad to at least have one friend by his side, suggesting they travel together from one place to another and help those in need or go on adventures. Sonic notes how regardless of everything, he will continue to protect people, with Shadow agreeing - ending the whole thing on a bittersweet, but hopeful note.
Whatever happens afterwards, they will face it together.
EDIT:
#Isekai'd As My Past Self (Sonic the Hedgehog AU Story) - a spiritual successor to this story idea.
#Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer (Masterlist)
#Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer#sonic the hedgehog#shadow the hedgehog#sonic archie#sonic idw#mobius 25 years later#mobius 30 years later#sonadow
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How would you write a “Mobius: 25 Years Later” type story for IDW while working within the mandates for IDW writers?
I haven't gotten to Mobius: 25 Years Later yet, but I believe my vision for how I would write a "25 years later" would align with the mandates. Most controversially, I would make SonAmy happen; the mandate assumes the characters are static age-wise, but the mandate doesn't cover future scenarios, so there's my loophole!
Sonic would continue adventuring. Amy would join him until they have a kid, at which point Sonic will still travel but also be a wholesome fatherly figure who will always make it home every night. They would have many family outings throughout the world.
Tails would continue working in his garage and accompany Sonic on adventures, but I think he'd also settle down, maybe with someone similar to Cosmo or Zooey.
Nothing changes for Knuckles except he starts to show some age. No change to Shadow at all. Blaze continues serving as princess of her realm until she becomes the queen. Not sure about Silver.
Team Chaotix continue their detective agency. Eventually Vector and Vanilla get married in my headcanon.
#sonic#sonic the hedgehog#tails#tails the fox#miles prower#amy rose#sonamy#knuckles#knuckles the echidna#shadow#shadow the hedgehog#cosmo the seedrian#tailsmo#zooey the fox#blaze the cat#silver the hedgehog#team chaotix#vector the crocodile#espio the chameleon#charmy bee#vanilla the rabbit#ship
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Best Sonic Universe Arc Tournament
Round 1: Scrambled (#37-40) vs. Eggman's Dozen (#83-86) | The Silver Saga (#25-28) vs. The Silver Age (#79-82) | Treasure Team Tango (#21-24) vs. Pirate Plunder Panic (#55-58) | Knuckles: The Return (#9-12) vs. The Great Chaos Caper (#63-66) | Mobius 30 Years Later (#5-8) vs. Babylon Rising (#33-36) | Case of the Pirate Princess (#91-94) vs. Chaotix Quest (#46-49) | Forged in Fire (#50) vs. Fury (#75) | Journey to the East (#13-16) vs. Race for the Stars (#45)
wiki in case you need to refresh :]
#poll✨#sonic#archie sonic#sonic universe#looking forward to this!!!!! was torn over whether to include a summary for each but if you dont remember the wiki is useful :]#if its a problem ill add it in later rounds. plus the only people i expect to vote are those who are actually in archie fandom so#less 'ill vote x bc i know them from the games' bias. have fun folks!!!
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In the Archie comics there’s a story called Mobius 25 years later
It’s a standard time skip story but like what if Rouge was just like ridiculously obese and in a hover chair?
"Buh... buh.... BWOOOOOOOOORP!" A wet earth rattling belch ripped out of a sweaty pile of lard. Rouge the bat former master thief was now nothing more than another one of thousands of mobians living in the grand mall-citypolis zone that spanned almost the entirety of the planet. Streets buzzed with hover chairs carrying similarly obese humans and animals alike. Tubes and drunk cups stuck to fattened lips with their occupants chugging whatever lard infused flavor was advertised to them by the countless floating billboards littering the skyline.
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My headcanons for Mobius' late wife:
Name: Seraphine Smith
Age (at the time of her death): 53 years old
Physical appearance (Yes, I used AI. Leave me alone over this.):
Occupation: FBI agent
How they met: They met during their senior year of high school and started dating 2 months after. They were both 18 years old. They got married 7 years later at the age of 25.
Cause of the death: She was shot and killed while she and her squad attempted to capture a human trafficking gang. She took pride in her job and truly wanted to do good for the society.
Personality: She was a sweet and affable woman but at the same time extremely stubborn. She loved all genres of music and her favorite band was Depeche Mode. Like Mobius, she loved jet skis. When she rided them they made her feel at peace.
#Mobius#Mobius M. Mobius#Headcanons#My Headcanons#TVA#Time Variance Authority#Loki Series#marvel#mcu
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