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whetstonefires · 2 months
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Honestly the most interesting thing about the Jiang interpersonal dynamics that is being totally slept on is how Jiang Fengmian's power as head of the family affects everyone, including him.
Yu Ziyuan knows Jiang Fengmian won't use his power against her unless he feels like he needs to, and that he doesn't fear her and isn't going to feel like he needs to act in self-defense unless she attempts significant physical harm, so short of that she can do whatever she likes against him, and he won't resist.
But if the collateral damage to the kids of her verbal attacks on him goes above a certain level, he says one word and she stops.
He just goes, 'wife.' ('My lady' but it's just a polite term for wife.) Sort of disapproving. Same kind of way he talks to Jiang Cheng when he acts like a shithead, but without the subsequent attempt at an ethics lesson.
And bam. Momentum halted. That line of attack is out of bounds. Nobody likes this, but good god it works.
And because they both know he ultimately has all the power, that Yu Ziyuan's lifestyle of privacy and doing exactly as she pleases at all times and so forth is all something that exists by Jiang Fengmian's generosity and sufferance, and she hates it, and he's not comfortable with it either, he sets that boundary really high, and she gets away with all kinds of cruelty because it's all stuff she's strictly allowed to do, entitled to do. So he'd be abusing his authority over her, by constraining her right to exercise her power within normative bounds over the people she outranks.
Even if she's using it harmfully and in a way directed by spite, these are her rights, she's not technically abusing her power, and her primary target in all the episodes he actually witnesses is him who outranks her; she's not being one of those mistresses.
So he'd be overstepping if he tried to constrain her, he'd be one of those husbands. Just like she always accuses him of.
(This is why she keeps insisting that she's also the master of jiang sect and he's 'forgetting' that in contexts where it doesn't make a huge amount of sense.)
Anyway, the fact that it's impossible to unpick where Jiang Fengmian's moral principles stop and his conflict-avoidance kicks in with this relationship is so much more interesting than the weirdly sexist readings I keep seeing, where it's all the conflict-avoidance and he's an unmanly loser who lets Yu Ziyuan bully him and his kids without ever standing up to her, for no good reason. When actually they have a really interesting and fantastically realistic toxic relationship.
He has a good reason! His reason is he's uncomfortable with the patriarchy! And guilty that his wife is miserable! And that he doesn't love her correctly! So he gives way as often as he can, trying to fix it!
But it doesn't fix it, because no amount of giving in to her gives her cause to trust him, and if she doesn't trust him and she knows that if he actually cares about an issue her ability to get her way will disappear, she can't feel secure about any of it. And therefore everything, especially Wei Wuxian the symbol of that fact, makes her angry and Want To Punish.
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biennatodd · 5 months
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i cant stop thinking about what if pregnancy was really hard for YZY.
what if her labor was so difficult that her doctors encouraged her to not even try again (the impossible be damned) despite having a daughter for a firstborn.
what if she pushed (and JFM was amenable, as he often was then) for her daughter to be made heir, only for JYL to struggle with foundation building so much that they worried she'd never reach core formation.
unsuitable.
it goes from improbable to nigh impossible for yanli to be sect leader.
so YZY decides to try again, its been years since the first time. surely she's recovered more than enough. if she can not make her body do even this then. then.
she will do this.
imagine her suffering another dangerous child birth, only to have another daughter.
and never once does her love for her children waver but she could cry, honestly cry because why could nothing ever be easy for her.
and then she has a thought.
it would be so easy. she could force the midwives to take an oath of secrecy. she would have to be more hands on in the raising of her child than most others in her position, but it wouldn't hurt to be seen as doting...
no one would ever know.
That year, the jianghu celebrated the birth of Jiang Fengmian's son and heir, Jiang Cheng.
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frankencanon · 1 year
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Absolutely obsessed with the idea of Jiang Cheng, in the wake of the Jiang Sect's massacre, just massively overdoing it with the defensive measures in Lotus Pier:
It was bad enough when they were first rebuilding, but in the nearly two decades that followed every single time Jiang Cheng had a nightmare about his family dying and/or Lotus Pier burning down, he would immediately get up and start working on the defensive arrays, or the evacuation plans, or so on...
People think of the Impure Realm as an impenetrable fortress, but after Lotus Pier burnt down and was rebuilt? No other sect could stand a chance against Jiang Cheng's obsessive paranoia.
Lotus Pier has everything from defensive arrays, to evacuation plans and saferooms, to secret codes and signals known only to the disciples, to hidden underground and underwater tunnels, to booby traps, barriers, poison gas, etc etc etc...
Never again will Lotus Pier be sieged—not if Jiang Cheng has anything to say about it.
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evakant · 2 years
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thirty-one days of jiujiu(ly)  —  day twenty-nine  + with bonus jie and baby a-ling !  (and one extra bonus lan wangji <3)
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wangxian-the-zhijis · 1 month
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I watched a portion of Lu Jianmin’s (Jiang Fengmian’s actor) interview and he said, “We (he and wyb) worked together in CQL. I was Xiao Zhan’s (Wei Wuxian’s actor) father…”
I imagine the Jiang family reaction be like…
Wei Wuxian: “Jiang-shushu said I was his son 🥹”
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Jiang Yanli: “that’s right. Our Xianxian is part of the family after all 🥰”
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Jiang Cheng: “you’re Wei Wuxian’s father? That’s it??? AND ME?!”
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Madame Yu: “What in the name of f*ck, Jiang Fengmia—“
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Link to the interview
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basicallyjaywalker · 5 months
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New goofy hc: Nya discovered the Ninjago version of Amazon and constantly buys Kai and Ray goofy gag blacksmithing gifts off it
I'm talking t-shirts that say things like "I'd hit that" (an anvil) and "I'd rather be forging"
Ray wears them unironically. Kai doesn't wear them but keeps them bc Nya bought it
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undertheredhood · 4 months
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AU where after dying in the pidw timeline, shen jiu is reincarnated as none other than jiang cheng. at least this life is somewhat (although not by much) better than his past life.
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Revival Round Final
Top 4 move into quarterfinals part 2!
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I encourage you to write propaganda! Send me asks or in the reblogs!
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kimboo-york · 2 months
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Know your Jiang family tags!
Jiang family bashing: no one gets a pass, not JFM, not Madam Yu, not Jiang Cheng, not even Jiang Yanli. Everyone is complicit and deserves to be hated!
Jiang A+ parenting: JFM and Madam Yu are terrible, horrible, no-good people! Jiang Cheng probably isn't great either. Jiang Yanli gets a pass.
Not Madam Yu friendly: Everyone gets a pass EXCEPT Madam Yu.
Not Jiang Fengmian friendly: Everyone gets a pass EXCEPT Jiang Fengmian (although Madam Yu is probably dead or OOC).
Not Jiang Cheng friendly: Everyone gets a pass EXCEPT Jiang Cheng.
Not Jiang Yanli friendly: trick question, this does not exist.
Canon Jiang Cheng: WILDCARD! Could be the worst character bashing you've ever seen in your whole entire life; could be an ode to his cheekbones. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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risui-sama · 1 year
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Soup!
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whetstonefires · 4 months
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Very choice element in the disaster stew of an ongoing identity crisis that is Jiang Cheng's character arc, that the best thing he ever managed to do--prioritize Jin Ling--echoes that act of his father's he always resented most.
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wenningisthebestboy · 22 days
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Wen Qing and Wen Ning are better siblings to Wei Ying than Jiang Cheng and Yanli. It's not their fault, considering their upbringing and emotional neglect at the hands of Madam Yu and Jiang Fengmian. But Wen siblings never disregarded Wei Ying's pain, never dismissed his trauma and emotions. This relationship wasn't one-sided when Wei Ying was giving his all and received nothing in return. Wen Qing and Wen Ning returned the favor every single time; they were by his side till their deaths.
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hiddensneker · 3 months
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Me when the whole family is committing homocide
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evakant · 2 years
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thirty-one days of jiujiu(ly)  —  day fourteen  + with bonus family !  + requested by anonymous
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"jiang fengmian was a good dad cuz he took wwx in!!" 😮‍💨😮‍💨
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