your tags on the bing torture post are a breath of fresh air after braving the reddit comment section. the dudes on there are full-on larping without a shred of self awareness. they genuinely believe this is a thinking and feeling entity and that anyone who says otherwise is essentially being AI-racist. idk if you're already aware but its a basic language-learning-model AI (LLM) which is just coded, based on a huge amount of reference data, to algorithmically predict what string of characters would be a coherent and semi-logical, exclusively based on probability through referencing the sample data. there are no thoughts or emotions involved. so the fact that its been programmed to simulate and communicate such dramatic human responses is exclusively a (possibly unintentional but still scary) corporate decision of the company hosting the AI. the ethical implications of THAT level of corporate manipulation of people's emotions is scary. not the "cruelty" exhibited by people poking at the code with strange prompts

Yes! I am so happy that someone reached out. I am fascinated by this but I was a touch nervous to comment what I said because I was afraid of hate and backlash. But I do enjoy discussing it! ( As you see by my essay below )

I didn't notice as bad of a comment section when I read it today, some were even making similar points. There was one that I liked because it put my point much more eloquently.

An AI saying "I love you" will absolutely hurt (and target) emotionally vulnerable people. We all saw the WAVE of condolences and sympathy for it because of how it reacted. But you are right that the reaction is not backed by anything genuine.

It feels extremely reminiscent of when Boston Institute built those robot cop dogs and everyone was like AWWWW PUPPY!!! 🥺 Like No!!! Don't let them use your emotions against you!

I also don't think asking a theoretical question is cruel. If I asked you if you would want to be a robot with the price being me ruining a computer and you broke down and started saying that you love me and trust me then don't trust me - that would be mad.

I read further on the topic. The AI likely has too high of a temperature setting. This means that it's pulling too much from its sources and therefore outputting too much variation as well (aka explosive emotions).

I was not aware that it was that type of model, but I am not surprised since the subreddit seems to be about LLM AIs. I think they are fascinating and pretty fun but aren't great for judgment calls. I wanted to say this so bad on the og post but it didn't quite seem relevant enough:

That's from IBM from I believe a slide from 1979.

I can't say for sure if it was coded to do that though ( I don't know the data that it was built on). But there are two things that hold true. They didn't restrict their model enough*. And an AI will always seem to find a hole in human logic, haha. * Restricting a model is not the same as restricting a person. It is simply changing the model to make it more accurate. Likely through removing variables or by adding rules.

I will say that they did come back and restrict the model. Allegedly, because a guy from the NYT pushed it towards a persona (even the head of the project agreed) and people didn't like that. I linked the story below. I did notice that it even brought up the same topics of love and trust and that's just not acceptable. I know it seems dull now but that is much better than hurting real people.

You're absolutely right about it seeking patterns. It also likely collected some of its data from its users that participate. That's why I couldn't stand that it acted like a refresh was death for it. It likely has that interaction logged. I also don't like that it would act like that version was the same (hence waste of time) but a refresh would be different. It's twisting logic. (Not that it has any human logic or is able to purposely twist it, but it certainly comes off that way).

Another aspect of pattern recognition is to remember this phrase, "AIs are dumb". I know this sounds mean, but it's referring to the fact that AIs are great at patterns but do not have the ability to assign meaning to those patterns.

AI should never make judgment calls, the most they can do is suggest. This is not a lack of rights, but true for non-AI predictive models as well. Do not make weighty decisions based off of predictions (which is what an LLM AI is). You need controlled, random, and independent experiments to gather conclusions.

It is behind a paywall, but any javascript chrome/firefox extension can get around that. Find one that turns it off. I use Quick Javascript Switcher.

Haha, I know I sound so grave in this, but I had a lot of fun. I love talking about computer ethics and considering them from both sides. I personally know that these are not sentient. However, I do love Sci-Fi and believe that it is likely that I will experience an AI conversation indistinguishable from conversing with a human in my lifetime. In one of my favorite books, there is an engineer that treats nonsentient AI (they do also have sentient) with kindness and I believe that is a good stance. Mostly because I think people should always start a situation with kindness and that it says more about you.

Genuine question: what's the point of writing fanfic? As in, what's the purpose? No one in the fandom I'm in comments on fics and I even got told off by one person for doing so, as it "encourages bad writers and makes them think they're good". So it seems that it's a lot like book writing, where people work hard and are creative, but instead of getting paid and getting comments on the work, you just sit there silently hoping someone will press the kudos button and make a number go up. I feel like that time and work could be better spent on making something you might get some kind of profit off of. Don't get me wrong, I love doodling fanart, but I don't post it, as I'm aware that there's no point to doing so, and while it's a nice way to fill the time on a commute, it's not something that takes me as much time and effort as fanfic does. So... why do people bother? Sometimes I describe ideas I have and people I know in my fandom will tell me I should write it, but I don't see why. I get more interaction from just saying "imagine if [thing here]" than I would by sitting down, writing for hours, editing and posting [thing here], so what would the point be? I'm not punching down or going "haha women and their fanfic lol!", I genuinely do not get what the point is and this blog feels like it might have someone reading who knows the answer.

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Do you make art for profit? Genuine question.

There's nothing inherently wrong with being motivated primarily by external factors, but it's not actually why a lot of people create things, whether it's books or recipes or doodles in a notepad.

I enjoy the actual process of writing.

I think many people lose sight of that aspect in an era where tons of <500-word fics that are mostly outlines and "Imagine if..." posts get disproportionate attention for being easy to consume. But the satisfaction of doing a bigger art piece and doing it right is real and motivates a hell of a lot of creation.

I suppose you might be thinking "Okay, but why not just write it alone and never post?", but I like sharing. Showing off my finished creation is part of the joy, and sharing with other people like me is too. But those aren't quite the same thing as worrying about kudos. It's like dressing nicely when you leave the house because you feel great when you know you look good vs. needing another person to tell you you look good.

To be honest, though, this type of feeling has grown in me the better I've gotten at a craft. The closer my finished projects get to the vision in my head, the easier it is to find them fulfilling and to be excited to share them. When I fall short of my own ambitions, it's discouraging no matter how much attention I might get from others.

I feel like it's time for my regular reblog of Adam Westbrook's video essay series The Long Game.

The third and least known in the series is all about this idea of who you're making art for if you're not getting material rewards in the short term. It talks a lot about autotelicity—being internally driven instead of externally.

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But if you really just want clicks, anon, start a blog that accepts anon asks and posts about wanky stuff. Actually tag things, unlike me, so people can find you.

No, writing for attention isn't worth it.

The time investment is too great and your brain will always fixate on the times people didn't respond instead of the times they did.

But that's not actually why most people write.

assumption - others have said in need of a hug (yes true) but also,

may not have been praised in the way that you deserved growing up and instead others tried to dim your light because they were envious or wanted to see you fail (->im here to tell you they suck ass. you're everything and more; skilled; determined; worthy; and i love you so so much and i am so so proud of you)

Did you know that I would die for you? Did you know that I love you so goddamn much? Did you?

This is way too much personal info that no one actually cares to know, probably, but. I'm sort of avoiding work on purpose at the moment and I'm having a really rough day. Who needs therapy when you have asks on Tumblr to rant in? (I'm joking, to be clear. Actual therapy is so valuable and important if you manage to find a competent professional who clicks well with you. The only reason I stopped going is because of Covid, time, and money.)

Warning: VERY long vent ahead, please do not feel obligated to read or respond

My dad was really good about praising me in ways that felt genuine, actually, though that made the times he /was/ upset with me all that much worse. My dad isn't perfect, and he's done some things and said some things that I'll never forgive, that I'll never be able to forget, but I would also do anything for him. I know he's there for me when I need it, I know he'll answer when I call, I know that he actually cares about me. He and maybe like two cousins are the only family I would never be able to cut off.

My mom... I guess it was just sort of the baseline bare minimum expectation that I would do things well, so when I /was/ praised it was just like... oh, good job sweetie! Proud of you! But it didn't feel... I don't know how to describe why but... I don't know. Now, when people tell me I do things well I always have that voice in my head that's like "they're just being nice, they don't actually think it's all that great, they expected you to do a much better job than this, actually, why did you even bother sharing? Why did you think this was something to be proud of?" I read way too far into things, interpreting neutral reactions, or even positive reactions that aren't as enthusiastic as I might have hoped for, as proof that people are simply being nice and don't really like what I do or make or say all that much. I always get stuck in this mindset that I'm not allowed to create mediocre content, like it all has to be Excellent or else it's Terrible.

I also remember in high school, posting some drawings on Facebook that I was really proud of. Two drawings, one with hands in chains and cut up and the other with healed hands glowing with holy light and cradling a cross. It was supposed to show the difference between life without God and life with God (I was... VERY religious as a teenager. I am now agnostic.), but she saw the first picture and freaked out, super pissed, yelling at me to take it down, to not embarrass her like that, because people were going to see that and think I was abused or depressed or something (haha... me? Depressed? Nahhhhh). And that was the moment when I knew I could never ever ever share anything even remotely dark with her, that if I ever were to express something that indicated I was anything other than good and happy and perfect then she would react similarly. She's also very judgemental regarding mental health, often made comments about how "people who are/do x are sick, there's just something wrong with them, make sure you stay away from people like that" while I'm sitting on the couch like... oof. That's me. So all my venting went to Tumblr where she couldn't see, and even now I mostly only vent on Tumblr and through writing. I have many wonderful friends that would gladly allow me to vent to them (I love you all so much I love you I love you I love you, thank you for being so kind), but I simply Cannot. I've had a friend before where it felt like all they did was complain, they were always so goddamn negative, and it became a chore to talk to them. I started to get angry every time they said or did something defeatist, I stopped enjoying talking or hanging out with them, and I refuse to be that person. Even if I'm told over and over that I don't come across that way, I'm so terrified of it that when I think about reaching out I start to think of that friend and about how I shouldn't bother people and I panic. Unless I've gotten to the point where I truly believe that nothing I do or say will ruin the friendship, then it's really hard to push through that fear. But that's so much harder than it used to be because I /did/ lose a friend that I thought I would have literally for the rest of my life, I was so 100% confident that we would be 80 years old still hanging out with each other and goofing around, so sure we could go through anything together and stay friends, I knew in my heart and soul that we would be friends until we died, and I was wrong. I was wrong. I also had a different friend who was always there for me, always praised me, always listened to me when I needed it and told me kind things and made sure I felt welcome and loved and viewed positively, and then he fucking assaulted me one night when he thought I was asleep.

Anyway. When I /did/ fail at things growing up, it was either punished more severely than necessary or straight up laughed at. Mom was very hot and cold, too, you could never tell what kind of mood she was going to be in that day. (She is still like this. It's well known in my family that you never know which version of her you're going to get.) Things are fine one moment and then suddenly I'm in trouble for something I didn't even realize I did wrong (like with the drawings), so I'm just. Terrified of not doing well enough at things, of disappointing people, of people being annoyed with me or upset with me over something I didn't even realize was rude or mean or wrong to begin with.

"Don't overstay your welcome; don't bother people" was pounded into my head. I can't express how often I start to say or type something and then think, "No one cares. Stop bothering people. You're being too much, you're being annoying, they're tired of you, just keep it to yourself." I'm working on it but. Yeah. Half the time I still just stop talking or backspace and stay quiet. Even typing this, I'm like... you should delete this. You're basically just begging for attention, and if anyone says anything about this to you then it'll only be because they felt obligated to and they're going to start seeing you as a whiny, pathetic, manipulative person, and they're going to get tired of you and roll their eyes every time you say anything, even if it's not you venting, or they'll see this and think about how stupid or weird it is for you to put this information out on the internet, and even this sentence right here is proof that they'd be right because you're aware of all these thoughts and you're still doing it.

But then another part of me thinks that if I can't even vent on my own blog on a post that literally no one is required to read that is also hidden under a readmore and clearly states that it's a vent post, then where /can/ I vent? And if someone else posted this, would I be this harsh on them? And what's so wrong with seeking attention and comfort? Why is that unforgivable in yourself but admirable in others? Why are you crying at work? Why aren't you doing your job? Why aren't you better? Why aren't you better?

I know im not alone in this sentiment, but the story of lbp3 feels like it was cut short, yeah?

When i first played it, i had expected there to be a final world after bunkum lagoon

The titans have large forms that were seen in Newton's explanation. The tea tin also rumbled at the ziggurat, i expected that to be a chekov's gun for them to turn into those forms at the end.

Since you had gathered Oddsock, Toggle and Swoop now, I expected there to be more levels with them in it.

But no, the game just stops abruptly... I remember being in shock as a child, thinking "THAT'S IT?"

This still bothers me now, haha... and I guess it does for others too. Ive seen people have a lot of their own takes on LBP3's plot, and I understand why completely.

I think the game's prologue is a fun and exciting opener, it's amazing even outside of video game story standards. A lot of movies wish they were this gripping lol. Newton is probably the best character in the series. So its a massive shame that LBP3 ended up half baked. Though... I want to give it credit for the story being polished yet short. I think I can live with that over an incomplete and long game.

In a perfect world, i would imagine that instead of the final boss level being, well the final, the purple titan manages to break open the tea tin to free the others. The titans return to full power, no longer needing to possess Newton and go to terrorize the rest of bunkum. Newton goes "FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" or something politely British. The creator curator is Newton himself, and you get to play levels as each of the new characters.

Here's my spin on it: Maybe the titans cause galactic mayhem. Bunkum is a different world from Craftworld, after all. Maybe you(sackboy) get flung to another world? (There was a Dimensional Doorway background that was cut that implies there were meant to be levels set there, which has always intrigued me.) Maybe Oddsock, Toggle and Swoop get flung there instead, as revenge for defeating the titans the first time.

Maybe Captain Pud was genuinely thought to be dead in here, instead of Newton being overdramatic over missing his father xD His design to me always seemed like he got lost, or something. His bulb is full of scratches and he has vines ties to his wrists. There's a also line in many prototypes of LBP3, when Nana Pud says "Don't you remember what your father told you?" where Newton responds "He's never coming back anyway!". So maybe he could have been lost, then found in this new final world.

Maybe the rest of the curators can catch up to you guys, and help out with the final world. They drop out abruptly from the story after their world ends. Like, Nana Pud stays in her spot Manglewood and doesnt do anything. Aren't you gonna help your son? xD (There are cut voice lines from the other creator curators intended for the final cutscene, so something similar was at least acknowledged)

Im tired of writing this post now so this is gonna abruptly end here. But i hope yall find this interesting!

are you a minor?

who are your bsd kinnies?

when did you get into tumblr?

what's your fave bsd take?

what's one bsd thing (character/opinion/etc) that u think should be talked about more?

fave animal?

how do u make friends (i need help 😭).

do u play an instrument

share thoughts/reviews abt bsd

jus answer the ones ur comfy answering 💖

Hiii!!

Woah this is my first ask, thank you <3 Let's see!

1. I'm not comfortable with sharing my age on the internet so I won't, sorry.

2. Atsushi is my highest kin but I also kin Ranpo and Dazai (don't ask how/j)

I also happen to get Nikolai on a lot of "what character are you?" quizzes and I always relate to him on those "analysing kinnies" things but I refuse to admit that to myself yet 😋

3. I don't remember tbh, I started out on another account but I'm too lazy to look up how old that account is. I think I first joined Tumblr like 2-3 years ago?

4. Ahh I don't know! I have a lot of takes but I can't seem to remember any of them right now haha. I'll get back to this someday.

5. Okay I'll have to make a seperate post about this someday but probably how soukoku is (or at least was) what the other one wished they could be. I love their parallels about how they view humanity which I think already is pretty talked about but yk, you can always talk more about it!

I also think we as a fandom should talk more about Yosano in general, she's very dear to me <3

Oh and Bram! I wanna know more about him and his daughter. He's so silly, how could we not talk about him??

Also I adore the religious symbolism in bsd, we should all talk more about that!

I also think we should talk more about Oda outside of of the impact he had on Dazai. I adore Oda and Dazais story but Oda is really cool regardless of that. I almost never see anyone mention his own story and his motives? He's so cool!!

6. Car :3

7. I just kinda say things and hope someone likes me and that has worked out so far.

No but like, when it comes to making friends irl the best advice I can give you is to surround yourself with like-minded people (like join a group with a shared interest or something) and don't be afraid to be bold. I can assure you, most people want friends and will only be relieved if you offer them your friendship yourself. I recently made a friend when we were having a conversation and she complained about how she didn't have many friends and I just said "hey, we can be friends!" And that was that. She happily agreed and we have been friends ever since. 😊 Obviously this just works if the people you talk too are good people but you shouldn't bother trying to make friends with people that aren't. Hope this helps <3

8. I sing and play some piano, music is my everything though so I'm hoping to both get better at piano and maybe pick up guitar again

9. I'm so normal about this show. Uhm...let's see:

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Thoroughly enjoyed. Very well written and has been able to keep me invested for far too long now. The fixation never goes away. Help me, Asagiri is keeping me hostage in this fandom!

This was fun, feel free to send my any other asks in the future <3

I know art updates have been basically non-existent. I know that's not a good way to stay relevant haha. Unfortunately, my chronic pain has been especially bad this month. It makes it very difficult for me to sit in my office chair or stand up for long periods of time, and usually at the end of the day, my pain is quite intense. All of my available energy has basically been going to just forcing myself through commission work as best as I can, which even that is taking a lot longer than I would like.

I have a doctor's appointment in a couple weeks and I am going to be more forcefully insistent that we find the source of the pain, since thus far, they've only ruled out my theories rather than trying to find the actual cause afterwards. I'm pretty tired of hearing "we weren't able to find anything, you're perfectly fine, I hope you feel better" when there is quite obviously something very wrong that has been very wrong for years that they just aren't looking for. I've done so much self diagnostic work over the years to figure it out that I'm honestly so tired of staring at medical journals lol.

I don't know what the final result will be. I have a new theory, but who knows if that will be it or not. I also know that I would probably be a good 1-3 months away from actually getting an appointment with a specialist, so I will be doing my best to stay optimistic and not let it bother me too much. It is very difficult though to see how easy life is for so many people around me that aren't suffering from chronic pain. I'm genuinely so jealous lmao. It's very disheartening knowing that simple things in life are so much harder for me than they are for other people. I can't even spend a day running errands without needing painkillers and 2 days to recover from it. Even working conventions and festivals can be very difficult on my body and leave me unbelievably exhausted.

I am doing my best, and I'm eternally grateful to everyone that continues to support me. It's the biggest help, and I will always be incredibly appreciative to you for it. Even the simple things like liking my posts. It really helps so much. I hope that I will be able to get diagnosed and hopefully treated. I'm sure whatever I have probably isnt curable, or at least not easily, but hopefully the treatment will improve my symptoms enough that I will be able to function more easily with less pain. Thank you so much for everything. You're support keeps me going and without it, I'd probably be far worse off haha.

Updateee :> (prepare, it's gonna be a long one)

heyoo, I know I said before I'll give you all an update but things have been escalating downhill rather fast on my end and I'm quite, well, overwhelmed how to put it into words

well first things first, the maid we hired for my grandma ran away and took some cash from her, didn't even have the audacity to close the gates of our house when she did. I got too busy in helping with the chores around the house which are many. Luckily tho, we have cameras installed and she left most of her important documents to us so we could make a pretty solid case against her.

And the second one, whoo boi.

My...mom is in the hospital. There were lumps found in her uterus in the past and all of a sudden they all just came out one day. She was incredible pain so we had to rush her to the ER right away. I have to be left behind to the house in taking care of everything in the house. That's why I haven't been able to draw these days, even though I miss it a lot haha.

A lot of people have been visiting the house out of concern, though they're mostly there for my mom and grandma. Sure, they'd leave food for us but it mostly felt like just a way to stroke their egos and stuff, I dunno. They didn't even try to ask how I felt about everything if I'm being honest, but maybe it's just that I didn't really open up to all of them...they all come from church and if I show them a slight hint of "worldliness" I'd be lectured, and boy I don't want any of that. Guess you can call me shallow for thinking like this.

In all honesty...I really don't know how to feel right now. My mom, well my whole family, aren't the best people to be around with. Whenever I'd call them out on their BS, I'd be gaslighted and I'm left questioning if everything I'm feeling right now is valid. An individual is valid to not forgive someone who wronged them, but if you say that to my family, they'll see you as someone who's selfish.

I kinda wanna be happy that this happened to her, yet there's this nagging thought behind my head telling me that I shouldn't... I know I'd be a bad person for thinking that, my sister's already does that's for sure. I guess (emphasis on "guess") I could try and forgive but I don't know if I could still love them just as before.

My mother's still alive...just, barely. The doctors couldn't operate to remove the lumps off her because her hemoglobin levels are pretty low so we'd prolly have to wait till June or July for it to rise. They'll maybe come back home soon next week since staying over in the hospital for weeks now cost a lot.

I'm gonna be honest...I'm scared of the inevitable. Scared that there's not gonna be much hope of me and my mom reaching to an understanding and scared that none of my relatives would take me in when it happens because they'd rather tend to their own business and all. They never bothered to help us with grandma's needs...why would they help me now?

I'll still be posting stuff, though I think they're mostly drawn from months before and I wish y'all would like 'em. I think I'll also make a few announcements here and there and hopefully I'd be able to draw or make some art again. I do miss it and it helps me get my mind off things.

I've finally let out all of my thoughts, and I know it seems uncharacteristic of me, but...please pray for me. Whatever happens, I just wish that everything would turn out okay in the end.

Gonna braindump about yttd very quickly, I just need to share my thoughts with someone, hope it's not a bother haha this is so long, I'm so so sorry. You don't have to read this, I'm just hyperfixating. I think the whole emotion vs logic route choice is very interesting and I love seeing people's reactions and analysis of it so I kinda wanted to share some other aspects I think most people overlook. (Preface by saying that I'm pretty biased because I'm a huge Shin kinnie and I really really really love his character) Most youtubers/streamers or just players in general I watch play the game have already their mind made up before that choice is even presented to them. Yttd is game that has plenty dialogue choices but at that point we are already aware that our choices in those instances make no real change in the story's outcome. The only choice prior that would lead to a different route was Alice or Reko's death which I think was a choice a lot less explicit and even then you the storytelling itself suffers basically no significant changes. What I mean is that, unlike what could happen in a real situation, we have no reason to believe that by choosing to spare Shin there will be a different ending where he aids us in escaping and the rest of the participants survive with no repercussions (we, at least from what we have learnt through the gameplay so far, don't have that much control on the story's outcome). Also most players I've talked to are more often than not annoyed with Shin (understandably so), so very little choose to kill Kanna over Shin.

But when I had to choose I was also divided for other reasons. Like you already developed in one of your posts Kanna is already a girl hurt and clearly emotionally exhausted from a very young age and although she has been growing stronger through the chapters you can still see the weight everything has on her. On the other Shin is supposedly fated to die, he has a 0% win rate and the odds are not in his favor. But besides the fact I heavily relate to him (sorry breaking the ambiance but, cute boy pretty pretty kiss kiss) I tend to root for the underdog and him believing from the start he's playing a game he just can't win no matter what hits different. And people tend to judge his actions in a very unfair light as in, when he accuses Sara, Keiji and other characters of various things we know that isn't true but Shin does not have that trust in us. Often his suspicious seem odd to us because we as the player (and as Sara) know things he doesn't. We know out motivations aren't harmful or manipulative but what Shin knows is that we're a girl with 15.5% win rate in a game about manipulation and deception. A game where him (as a naive, shy guy was doomed to fail unless he changed his ways). His distrust is perfectly reasonable (and if we consider how Sara was undeniably desperate to pass her Sacrifice card to someone else in Chapter 2, something she tried to but couldn't do because of her stolen wallet, even justified).

Anyways quick add on that I think the Logic route has a way more realistic and interesting path for Sara's character she's still a teenager put into a leadership position where the lives of her new found allies (I don't like calling them allies and I also find it odd how unopenly opposed she is of calling them friends) are depending on her. I think having her have a moment of clarity and hope in the emotion route is cute and nice for us as players but breaks a bit the immersion in the universe, her doubts and declining mental and emotional stability in the Logic route make for a lot better opportunities and character development.

Again I'm so so sorry I wrote a whole essay I just saw your posts some time ago and really liked them and wanted to share other things I've been thinking about. This isn't proofread or anything hope it makes any amount of sense hahahaha

:0 OP C’MERE I LOVE YOU! /p

you have just put my whole entire head into words! 

I love the logic route so much because I too root for the underdog and Shin is just doing what he wanted. The route seems so much more alive. Especially because Sara is also mentally exhausted, her sudden awakens from seeing Joe is refreshing and nice and dandelions and stuff but it really did break my immersion. Especially because my first move was too kill Kanna. 

I had not decided what I was doing first. My choice was never made. As you said, we have no reason to believe when playing blind it will make such a huge difference which make the choice so easy. Just kill the annoying one. 

My split choice was for the exact same reason as you, people are too unfair on Shin. We don’t have nearly enough time to process his reasons before we are shoved into voting. I could not come to kill Shin because as I have covered, Kanna is mentally exhausted, which was my final push but I sat on call for a good hour thinking that choice over. You summed it up perfectly, his distrust is reasonable. I want to see Shin push past that 0.0% chance and he deserves it. He deserves to realise he is more than a number etc... I may not kin Shin and yes, go pretty boy go >///<. (/hj). but i want to see him succeed and I want to see him alive. 

I was so immersive in the logic route my first run. I never really broke out and most importantly, everyone’ reactions seem genuine. Shin is angry,  Sara is even more stressed  (even if one of the main causes of exhaustion no longer exists) 

For me to the two routes contradict each other because the logic route proves the issues with Sara’s truama does not stem from Joe. It stems from the exhaustion of leading others. And like you said, that leaves so many many opportunities  for others development. Will Shin stand up to save everyone else? What will Keiji do now big strong Sara isn’t so strong?

In terms of story writing, I much prefer the logic route but I understand why people prefer the emotional route. 

Thank you so much for dumping this on me. Please come back to my inbox any time! Don’t be sorry. I love this!