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#Evergreen Adventure Time
andthebeanstalk · 8 months
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Hey anyone else remember the episode of Adventure Time called "Evergreen" where it's revealed that the original bearer of the crown to whom it was "forever linked" was actually a neglected child (and prior reincarnation of Finn) named Gunter trying to be like his wizard father?? Anyone??? Because I had fully forgotten until re-watching the episode last night and I'm losing my mind about the implications.
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(This episode is also a devastating look at how a mistreated child unconsciously learns that he must treat himself and those he has power over as cruelly as he has been treated. Adventure Time has so much sadness and madness, y'all.)
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inbarfink · 8 months
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When talking about the distinction between Simon Petrikov and the Ice King,  it’s important to remember that originally, the Crown wasn’t trying to turn Simon into Ice King -
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It was trying to turn him into this guy.
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At the time, the Ice Crown - or rather the Wishing Crown - was programmed with Gunther’s wish to become Evergreen. So everything related to making the current wearer like Evergreen is a very direct result of the Crown’s Magic. The physical changes -
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And the obsession with the name ‘Gunther’ -
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And maybe some of the irritability and anger issues -
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That is something the Crown is very directly forcing unto its current wielder. 
But everything else?
Ice King, personality-wise, was not much like Evergreen at all, or even like Gunther's view of him. And Ice Finn of the Farmworld Universe was also pretty different from the both of them.
At the time, I remember people assumed Ice Finn’s behavior is more indicative of what the Crown is actually trying to do with its wielders. That Ice King is so different because of Simon’s subconscious resistance against the Crown - while Finn’s much younger and dumber brain is a lot susceptible to the Curse’s influence to become some sort of mad world-conquering emperor of ice and snow. 
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But, with the context of the Crown’s actual backstory. That doesn’t seem very likely anymore. I think what’s actually happening there is that the Crown is just trying to make its wielder an Ice Wizard on par with Evergreen (who was the Actual Goddam Ice Elemental) and that means pumping the wielder’s brain so full of Magic, Madness and Sadness to a level that is bound to overwhelm anyone.
And Simon’s and Farmworld Finn’s very different behaviors after putting on the crown is indicative, more than anything, of how their psyche reacts to Madness and Sadness in general. You know, Finn has a very proactive and kinda aggressive personality - and you add Crown-induced-Madness-and-Sadness and a compulsion to use Ice Magic as much as possible and you get all of…. this 
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Meanwhile, for Simon, the compulsions of the Crown originally filtered exclusively via the language of protection 
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As his madness always manifested as romantic obsession 
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And using goofy humor to try and deny the pain he’s going through 
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Because that’s how Simon’s mind specifically reacts to being flooded with so much Madness and Sadness.
That’s why there’s so many parallels between Ice King and the sort of mistakes and screwed-up stuff Simon does right now! He’s even kidnapping people again!
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Because the Madness and Sadness of Ice King might’ve been induced by the Crown, but now Simon has plenty of personal home-grown Madness and Sadness inside him - and it’s no surprise that Curse-Induced or not, his mind reacts to it in a sorta-similar way. (Although obviously not as intensely, again, there was a LOT of MMS in the Ice Crown).
Now as for Ice Thing, and the fact that he seems to be actually rather well-adjusted under effects of his version of the Wishing Crown. I mean... not by the time of the 1000+ Era, but that’s literally eons in the future and also maybe more Gibbon’s fault. Even if the Crown will eventually take some sort of toll on him, for now he seems to be doing pretty well considering his wish. I mean, there's still some sort of Loss of Identity stuff going on
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But everything we've seen of Ice Thing (in the present day, at least) shows him as a friendly and cheerful individual that gets along well with others. A far cry from how maladjusted every single wielder of the Ice Crown acted.
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At the very least, if there's any notable amount of Sadness in him, we really haven't seen it yet.
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There might be several factors here:
First things first, I should acknowledge the possibility that it’s just that Orgalorg’s eldritch brain is better at intaking all that MMS juice. That could play a part, but I think it’s probably more important, at least thematically, to look at the distinction between ‘I wish to be Evergreen’ and ‘I wish to be Ice King’. 
First in the sense that while Ice King was occasionally mean to Gunter at times - he was generally much kinder than Evergreen ever was for ‘his’ Gunther. So, like, pretty much the one Personality Flaw of Ice King that you can directly link to the Ice Crown’s attempt to mimic Evergreen is the occasional anger issues.
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And how they relate to Gunther’s view of Evergreen, so grumpy and controlling and constantly saying ‘NO!’
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(Both Finn and Simon’s demonstrable not-crown-induced trauma responses can make them pretty short-tempered as well. So I’m not going to say this is purely the effects of the Crown. It still probably plays some sort of factor at why the wielder of the Ice Crown is Like That).
And that is not a factor in how Gunter views Ice King. For him, Ice King was a doting and loving father figure - so if the Crown was ever trying to implement any sort of specific negative personality traits, this is absolutely no longer a factor. Because the original Ice Crown was a reflection of Evergreen’s abuse, and now Ice Thing is a reflection of Ice King’s fatherly love.
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Which is, itself, probably an echo or remnant of Simon’s own strong parental instincts. 
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Secondly, while the Crown was trying to make the Ice King just as powerful as Evergreen…. Ice King was obviously not as powerful as Evergreen. Because he was already a second-rate copy of the Ice Elemental’s power, and because Ice King was often just too doofy to use his powers correctly and probably because some remnant of Simon’s original sensible self is subconsciously holding his powers back.
Either way, being ‘like Ice King’ as Gunter sees him requires less Magic than being ‘like Evergreen’ as Gunther saw him - and therefore less Madness and Sadness. Leading to the wearer or, um, the eater being a lot more well-adjusted from the get-go.
And I think that the implication that Ice Thing has fused with the Crown, so there's never going to be another poor sap who puts on the Crown and gets Ice King'd. But if there is one somehow... at least the process is going to be less mentally detrimental that time around?
Maybe one day Simon could look back and appreciate how much he (or Ice King, or both of them, or however you want to look at the situation) is responsible for basically neutralizing the Crown that ruined his life in the first place.
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metalatias5 · 6 months
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Adventure Time server I'm in on Discord has a channel dedicated to Simon doing the Shinji Chair Meme so I decided to draw each of my AU Simons for it
separated pictures with the names of each Simon/AU under the cut
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MMSS (Magic Madness Sadness Simon) aka Whitey MMS AU
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Penguin Simon aka Simuin Penguin AU
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Ice Prince Simon Avatar AU
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HamboSimon aka Hambmon/Toymon Hambo AU
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GhostSimon, or more accurately "magical holographic copy of Simon's memory and personality imprint from the Ice Crown" Ghost AU
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SCP-51302 (Simon) SCP/Confinement AU
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GenieSimon and his "lamp" Hambo Genie AU
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MRSimon aka SantaSimon MemoryRestoration AU
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lemonyoatmilk · 7 months
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run-with-the-wolvez · 8 months
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Crafting an au called sinister snowflakes (literally just the ice elementals from every version so far, ice princes included) where all the ice freaks are all one big awful family :>
Og images underneath!
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electricsocketman · 7 months
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before bed doodle.
did simon play the drums at any point or did the ice king randomly take up a hobby in the midst of his insanity
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emilnikos · 7 months
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ice guys for real this time
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numericturtle · 6 months
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🎄Wintergreen 🎄
I am obsessed with @theunusuallee ‘s Mint King!!!
(He reminds me so much of my Black Butler OC from middle school lol 🖤)
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zhezhy · 7 months
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multiversal-madness · 7 months
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Accesso-Swap Au - Another Simon and Marcy swap Au but with a different twist, that twist being they swap roles but Simon is still the ice one and Marcy is still demon related.
Marceline was a famous musician before the war, until she found an amulet that slowly transforms the wearer into demon, it’s original wish to become like Hunson Abadeer making the wearer insane. When modern Ooo comes around, she’ll be known as the Demon Queen.
Simon is the half human half avian son of Urgence Evergreen, ruler of the Wintosphere. He was raised by Evergreen’s dinosaur assistant Gunther until the war happened and Gunther died, leaving Simon alone.
When Marceline finds Simon, she gifts him a penguin plush he named Jackie and the two travel together until Marceline fears the amulet’s influence is growing too strong, which causes her to leave Simon alone for his own safety. She decides to leave her guitar with him as a sorry, Simon takes extremely good care of it and learns how to play it.
Simon also gets a dog of his own in this au, a companion he found a few months after Marceline left. A dog he named Magwood.
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the-guy-who-asked-333 · 4 months
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Daddy issue lore
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bjornvolf · 6 months
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inbarfink · 7 months
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Okay, so...
My assumption has always been that Simon is just kinda intrinsically Fatherly and that aspect of himself simply persisted in spite of the Crown’s influence
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All the way to his Ice King persona and the way he doted on Gunter
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But maybe putting on the Ice Crown just kinda…turns you into a Dad??
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I mean... not necessarily a GOOD sort of Dad... but definitly some sort of Dad???
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chikinan · 7 months
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something that gets lost about betty and simon's relationship after a while is that, in its original context, it worked largely as an analogy for grief in the face of progressive neurodegenerative disease. There's definitely a lot more going on yeah, but betty's struggle is constantly framed as denial and fear when confronted with this very specific type of loss. kind of important I think.
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o-lanterns · 8 months
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the lore of the Ice Crown makes me so mad like it's all one shitty guy's fault for not giving his dinosaur son the attention he needed.
Ice Elementals will ask is anyone going to fuck up the whole world and not wait for an answer
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gumclones · 8 months
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one of the best moments of Evergreen is at the end, when Evergreen tries to tell Gunther to use a concentration spell before realizing that he never taught his apprentice a lick of magic. because the thing is… even if he had taught him concentration spells, that wouldn't change the outcome of Gunther putting on the crown. wish magic doesn't care what you're focusing on or what you think you want, it cares about what you want. it's the thing Chatsberry tried to tell Evergreen, and it's why Betty wasn't able to wish for something logically optimal. truly a *chef's kiss* moment.
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