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zippo-zip · 2 years

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#kancolle #艦これ #朝霜 #asashimo

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kurayamineko · 2 years

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coolyo294 · 1 year

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#kancolle #kiyoshimo #asashimo

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nagaterakimi · 2 years

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2022秋刀魚イベント

#木曽 #艦これ #kancolle #艦隊これくしょん #レンジャー #Ranger #伊203 #I-203 #山汐丸 #Yamashio-maru #Kiso #朝霜 #Asashimo #秋刀魚

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seftravels · 8 months

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Shinozaki-kun no Mente Jijou spoilers //

WE GOT TO SEE SOMEONE TURNED INTO A HUMAN REPOSITORY IN REAL TIME!!! The mystery of how human repositories are made is slowly unveiled. I can't wait to see OCs and AUs on this universe

Also welcome to the family my daughter Kusunoki Saori. It's so funny literally every other human repository we know is an adult man (since they had a drinking party). Kusunoki the baby of the group

#sef talks manga #shinozaki kun no mente jijou #spoilers #i'm still not 100% sure about how human repositories are made but this basically confirms a lot of things so I'm happy #I can't wait to see how Kusunoki meshes with the rest of the gang #also hoping for a kusunoki-asashimo cover

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koppiki · 6 months

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I was wondering, so Saori feels like she's having a very normal reaction to finding out magic exists, with that mix of awe and feeling of isolation from her peers. What I don't get is why she isn't more apprehensive towards Enaga? I mean I'm not sure how much was explained to her off screen but she realizes she was basically poisoned right? & a bunch of other people? Or is the feeling of finding someone [like her] overriding that a bit? (Also I was a bit confused when I read the last chapter. So Saori was basically worried that she was enacting her own desires on friend? And was upset by how excited she was over it bc she's scared of being manipulative? Though im sure the "choosing your high school" thing is much more serious in Japan). Sorry if it seems like I'm asking you to explain the manga to me, I was just wondering how you interpreted the most recent chapters?

I think a lot of this can be answered by the concepts that outline the fundamental relationship between a practitioner and their Repository. One of the most important ones, and one that has been visited multiple times now (with Kuraki and Fuyugare, albeit with the latter more as a joke, alongside of course Saori), is that of the sort of... soul read that a repository gets on the person applying their magic when the magic is applied. A soul read that, notably, tends to indicate a deep sort of connection between the two parties.

Kuraki and Hazakura both have their great desire to feel wanted and as though their efforts are valued, Fuyugare and her repository both had... a shared fetish (among other things, but that's for a later chapter), and Saori and Asashimo both desire to feel as though they're in control of a situation and that their efforts are meaningful (at least, that was how I read it).

Tsuzuki and Konpeito both deal with feelings of inferiority and alienation... feeling as though everyone else is better than them, and that their own desires are somehow lesser. For Konpeito at least, I think it's pretty obvious to see how the ability to read people's minds (and seemingly, the inability to not read a person's mind, given that it's stated to be habitual) would mess you up. You'd constantly see other people's drives and desires, how much they care and how much joy and pride they have in what they do... and find yourself horrifically lacking in comparison.

There's also the second factor of consent, which is Completely Necessary for Repository-ification. You cannot turn someone into a Repository without their consent, full stop. I also think you can't trick someone into it- there's the bit with Konpeito feeling as though they tricked Tsuzuki, but as Tsuzuki stated it was "obvious they were lying" and so that doesn't really hold. Pretty sure you can't trick someone into it, is all.

As a side note, figuring out What Exactly Shinozaki's Deal Was is a pretty big plot point for the manga as a whole, both to do with the soul read aspect and with the consent aspect. It's pretty interesting to see how his and his practitioner's qualities and aspects mesh together. I honestly don't really think it's as clear there as it is with the other ones, but I haven't really read/translated enough to say for sure. I'm sure it'll get done.

ANYHOW, while I would say that Saori and Asashimo's definitions of "control over another person's life" are quite different between the two of them, there is still a shared factor there. Saori's just a kid, after all- it makes sense that she wouldn't have the same sort of... y'know, damage. I think that Saori feels pretty bad for Asashimo, honestly- she seemed to get a pretty good understanding of her in the whole soul read zone, and her push for "sticking within the bounds of the law" (as well as her repeated visits to her in prison, which are noted later, not much of a spoiler but it is from later chapters) indicates to me a sort of desire to help her out. I think that's understandable.

Side note (again), I think the way chapter 30 was framed was very interesting, in a "what part of that was real" sort of way. It's implied pretty heavily that everything from Kusunoki half-dropping the glass takes place entirely within her head (or within the shared conceptual Repository-space that has been shown previously) by the fact that when she comes to again the glass is actually on the floor (as well as the back cover of the mango under the sleeve showing her passed out with the glass askew). Pretty neat, huh? I think it is.

With regard to "what Saori felt bad about" I think some of it can be attributed to just... children feeling as though the things they've done are a lot worse/more impactful than they are. She probably felt like her desire to have her friend go to the high school she noted was selfish, and the fact that a complete third party that she didn't know about ended up deciding her choice made her feel guilty partially because of it. It's sorta similar to Asashimo's statement of "as long as it works, I don't care what happens" in that Saori felt bad because it didn't work. She was wrong. So did she feel relieved because she thought she was being selfish, or because she felt like it was the wrong choice to make? I think it's a bit of both.

I would say she's a bit scared of being manipulative, sure, but more importantly she's scared that her manipulation (if you can even call it that) will make someone worse off than they were. She feels responsible for it, and that's why she feels bad about it having a chance of going wrong (because the choice she made was actually the wrong one, or whatever).

I think it's a confusing chapter, generally. Confusing in that it feels as though Saori is making a far bigger deal out of things than is sensible, and equating herself and Asashimo in a way that feels like a bit of a stretch (because asashimo is, in a sort of legal sense, much worse than her, on account of the poisonings).

Speaking of, as for why the poisoning probably didn't bother her too much, it's possible that the soul read she got (as well as a general understanding of Asashimo as a person whose drugs work Exactly as They Are Designed To) told her that she meant no harm, and so she felt okay about it. It was just some sleeping medication, after all.

I don't know if choosing your high school is a bigger decision in Japan. I can say that high school is not part of compulsory education there, at least. So, it probably means more, since you're not required to do it. Kinda like college/university in the states (where I am).

Anything else...

I dunno, I think she just trusts enaga a lot. It's possible that there was more interaction between them that we didn't see that made her trust her more (in fact, there was more interaction, as is revealed in chapter 32), or it's possible that she's just got absolutely no sense of stranger danger (due in part to her father's peers). Either one works.

In short, I just think she's just kind of a weird kid. Simple as that.

Also, there is absolutely no need to apologize about asking me questions about the manga. I love this dang thing. I love talking about it. I have several friends that can attest to me gushing about it (and its plot points) for several hours straight when given the opportunity. Which you have now done. So, thanks for that!

Always feel free to ask me anything!!!!

#shinozaki kun no mente jijou

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hikari-ni-naritai · 2 years

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Miss Emily... Kancolle... there's just too many cute girls!!! I miss them!!! I want to hug or kiss them!!! Souryuu! Akagi! Kaga! Atago! Takao! Murasame! Minegumo! Nimu! Iku! Imuya! Hachi! Ooyodo! Kongou! Chiyoda! Ryuujou! Ushio! Akebono! Akitsu Maru! Iowa! Saratoga! Intrepid! Roma! Graf! Kashima! Katori! Naganami! Asashimo! Musashi! Yamato! Ashigara! HOW COULD I FORGET! Tenryuu! Tatsuta! Even abyssals like Seaport Hime! Even the ones they added after I quit are cool! Hornet is super cute! I like Dakota too! And Perth! And DeRuyter! Gay kancolle dating sim when! My heart is bleeding.. its too full of love... how can I live when my heart yearns so keenly!

ANON YOU HAVE THE POWER! TO CREATE GAY KANCOLLE DATING SIM! renpy is criminally simple to use lmao

Also HOW could you forget my wife i168? A pox upon your household 💔

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inf-ini-tea · 3 years

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2020.02.21 -> 2021.02.21

#艦これ #艦隊これくしょん #kancolle #朝霜(艦隊これくしょん)#asashimo

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zippo-zip · 2 years

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10/8 主力オブ主力7 夕雲型オンリーでま〜す✌️

#kancolle #艦これ #朝霜 #秋雲 #asashimo #akigumo

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kurayamineko · 2 years

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#kantai collection s2: itsuka ano umi de #shigure #isokaze #hamakaze #yukikaze #yahagi #ooyodo #haruna #mogami #suzutsuki #fuyutsuki #asashimo #kasumi #hatsushimo #yamato

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nagaterakimi · 5 years

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#艦これ #夕立 #yudachi #朝霜 #asashimo #halloween #poi #kancolle

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seftravels · 8 months

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Shinozaki-kun no Mente Jijou spoilers //

If my hypothesis that the repository and the creator has to have a point of similarity for it to succeed is right (Kuraki-Hazakura with wanting to be praised, Kusunoki-Asashimo with the desire for control over people's life), maybe Tsuzuki-Konpeito have a desire for a place to rest? No idea for Shinozaki-Mahiru tho, which is p much the point since that's what we're trying to figure out

#sef talks manga #shinozaki kun no mente jijou #spoilers #human repository lore is wild #also i have no idea how to word asashimo and kusunoki's desire

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koppiki · 1 year

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Magicians in Shinozaki-kun

Something I've been thinking about lately is the way magicians are depicted in this wacky little manga. Or more accurately, how they're depicted as acting and thinking.

Generally speaking, I'd say they're usually written as quite happy-go-lucky, for lack of a better word. They have silly little buildings, weird-looking government (or at least, managerial) institutions, and they all look pretty interesting as well (due to the ability of magic to morph the body). They're also just, generally speaking, not that serious.

But they're not! Not really, at least. They've waged wars, the greatest of which (mentioned in the manga in a later chapter, at least) went on for, I believe, over two thousand years. They imprison people for just as long (Fuyugare was imprisoned in this way, chained up alone for millennia). They used Repositories as suicide bombers, and only stopped because their fetishes were at risk of being revealed. Asashimo is effectively a terrorist (and that's speaking charitably). Magicians wield great power against each other without a second thought, it seems, and do so for eternity. After all, with magic, you don't have to die. Mahiru was thousands of years old when she died, Asashimo is just as old, and Hazakura is probably the only magician we've met that exists on a traditional human timescale (well, her and Yuuyake). What does living that long do to a person? I think it ties into what I'm trying to get at here.

Magicians, as they're depicted here, don't care about other people. They live for millennia, they don't age, they can do (more or less, with some help from external sources) anything they want, and they are completely unattached from the world around them. They don't need money, they don't need people; again, they don't need anything. After all, they can just make it. I think this is what creates a lot of the folks we see in this manga.

The one I want to talk about most with regard to this is Mahiru, Yuuyake's grandmother. She was once the same as (basically) every other magician we've met; selfish, acting only out of one's self interest. She spent years (I would say at least a decade) fighting Grey simply because she wanted to test out machines, without the slightest hint of seriousness. She didn't care about anything, and lived a life free of the consequences of time and change.

This changes when she has to start taking care of Yuuyake.

Now, there's gonna be spoilers. Be warned!

So, first thing's first, we have to talk about Yuuyake's parents. As (maybe) has been clear, Yuuyake was raised by her grandmother, Mahiru. Her parents were not in the picture. This happened very early in Yuuyake's life, in her infancy. Does this mean her parents died? Nope. They abandoned her. Now, why is that? Why'd they do that? How'd Mahiru get a hold of her? Well, you see,

Yuuyake's mother (Mahiru's daughter-in-law) wanted to go to space. Seriously. That's it. Mahiru built a big ship for her (and her husband, Mahiru's son), and off they went. Abandoning their child, abandoning the world. They didn't care about her in much the same way magicians don't care about anyone, and for much the same reason- if you can live forever, who cares? There's no attachments in eternity.

Yuuyake is, obviously (and contrary to most other magicians, really), quite bothered by this. There's a whole chapter where she talks to Shinozaki about it, and looks quite sad doing it. There's a lot to unpack in that relationship, I think. The one between Yuuyake and her parents.

Back to Mahiru. Again, she's lived for a long time. Thousands of years, easily. Yet, once she starts taking care of Yuuyake, she begins to age. She stops living forever. Why is this? Well, I think it's because of Yuuyake. Rather, it's because she has a worldly attachment, and it's because she's realized that there is something to live for (in a mortal sense), and maybe living forever isn't all it's cracked up to be. I imagine her son leaving forever impacted her a bit as well, even if she didn't express it at the time.

In writing this, however, I realize there is probably another explanation. It's heavily implied that Shinozaki's repository-ification happened because he was on the verge of death, and it was Mahiru's attempt to save him, and it's possible that doing so put WAY more magic into him than was necessary (why he's so big and complex). Which was, admittedly, successful. Now, you could read this as "Mahiru used all her magic and now can't live forever anymore and died," and that may very well be how it is, but I don't know. If Zatto's explanation about magic was accurate, that doesn't really make sense. Magic is pulled from the Earth. It's not as if they'd realistically ever run out of geothermal energy (not on their timescale, at least), so I think my explanation (or belief) has a bit more credence.

The timescales would work either way. Yuuyake and Shinozaki are (I believe) close in age, though I think Shinozaki is a few years older. He was 12 when his head first came off (ch. 1), and that was roughly 15 years ago (that's when he was last assessed, at least, as per ch. 6). If she stopped aging when she picked up Yuuyake, that gives her probably 20 or so years until death, vs the 15 or so from Shinozaki (since she died right at the end of that). Either one would make sense, I think.

Wait, 15 years ago was when Yuuyake stopped using magic (ch. 22). I think the two may be related.

I guess we'll see.

#shinozaki kun no mente jijou

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inf-ini-tea · 3 years

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