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#--that had him occasionally heal himself and mortemer had his own self heal but i think the first deaths door check on him had me--
beeapocalypse · 2 years
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those posts that are like “i love you [thing] i love you [thing] etc etc” and follow a connecting theme w the items are a little cheesy soemtimes but that is the best way to express mine emotuon right now. i love you collector i love you shambler i love you thing from the stars i love you fanatic i love you crocodilian
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^ look at these animals. absolutely incredible design
#body horror tw#i NEED to sprint into the first final dungeon expedition this instant i need to see the shuffling horror. it has been years since i fought--#--it and i want 2 see if there is anything said abt it being a shambler which has the Meat of the ancestral home growing upon--#--it like an infection. like a rogue animal of the void which has been captured and twisted up by the hearts worshippers#i just love love the wandering bosses so much like they are all such a perfect marriage of character design and gameplay. mwah mwah <3#second image of a shambler tentacle. it spawns two of those upon encountering it and throughout the fight and they have a single--#--move called 'clapperclaw' (will admit that i usually just call them clapperclaws rather than shambler tentacles lol) that gives it huge--#--buffs which stack up w each successful hit so they turn into a very godawful problem if u do not deal w them right away. the real menaces-#--of the shambler fight#OHH i mentioned the shuffling horror now i need to talk abt ingame nesdin again. brought him along to my first real attempt at the first--#--final dunegon expedition years ago and ended up having 2 retreat during the boss fight bc my arbalest got killed real early into it and--#--my vestal died of a heart attack (due to a crit? i think) so the only guys i had left were nesdin (was virtuous i think?) and--#--mortemer the leper and it was mortemer who died on the expedition retreat. it was very dramatic and also the moment that solidified--#--nesdin as a real Character in my head. hed been a very solid guy to take on expeditions beforehand but i started spinning him around--#--in my head after that lol#^ i remember very clearly going oh FUCK and retreating the instant nesdin hit deaths door after the vestals death. maybe mortemer was--#--virtuous as well ? i remember having this incredibly impossible belief that they could tough it out together bc nesdin had the virtue--#--that had him occasionally heal himself and mortemer had his own self heal but i think the first deaths door check on him had me--#--freak out and retreat. sat at my desk w my eyes closed for like a minute b4 abandoning the expedition all together begging 4--#--nesdin to be the one to survive lol
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on a Serious note: I am very worried the conclusion to this arc will be the boy killing adult kevin, implying that certain people are too broken to be fixed. I feel like if the conclusion of this arc ends with current kevin being dead it'll undermine literally all of his baggage into "just some crazy guy" instead of. a guy with disorders the dsm hasn't even seen yet who deserves to heal from his past
on a more speculative note: it's mentioned talk therapy is illegal in desert bluffs too. the first idea they have for the boy is to take him to a child therapist, which is talk therapy. just thought that was interesting
Well,I had a whole answer written up, and then I looked at a transcript and it was gone. God bless Tumblr. I'm going to paraphrase.
I don't think they would do that. For one, this is a child talking about murdering his future self. He talks about how he is going to do it in explicit detail. While Night Vale has segments that are gorey and occasionally sad, even including the deaths of characters, I think this would be too big a leap. This is a more serious topic- for example, the episode we get where Old Woman Josie has died, and we spend it learning about her and her life. While she wasn't a big recurring character, it was clear that she meant a lot to Cecil and the town. There was so much about her we never got to learn.
Kevin. Kevin is a huge character. While not recurring often after his "defeat", we still hear from him from time to time. However, he's such a big character because of who he is. He's Cecil's double. While we really don't know much about Cecil (so much of what we have is just speculation from the vague hints left in occasional episodes), we know even less about Kevin.
Kevin... We really have no idea what he's up to. He wanted to take over Night Vale with Strex, but they lost. After Kevin got trapped in the Desert Otherworld, we could have easily never heard from him again. We've barely heard anything about Lubelle post-mortem, except that she's probably still under the cow.
You could argue that we didn't know much about Janet Lubelle. However, we did know her motives. We knew what she wanted to do. She wanted to explain Night Vale, plain and simple.
Now? Kevin has a life separate from StrexCorp and even the Smiling God. Lubelle never had a clear life separate from the University of What It Is. Kevin has a partner, a stepson. A kind-of-friend in Lauren. An old companionship with Carlos. Kevin is a character that has been developed outside of his main focuses, and I think that's important to remember. Night Vale interns die because, well, they're interns. Not much we learn about them. The ones we did learn about? Still alive. Dana Cardinal- former mayor, now therapist. Maureen- owns dark owl records with Michelle. Even Kareem had something to distinguish himself- a double, and a family that didn't remember him. All of them are still living.
One of, if not the only character that's been developed to have a personal life and still died, is Old Woman Josie. Dead from a hip infection. And we got a whole episode (several if you count the ones mentioning her worsening condition) about her passing. She was a very important character, especially to Cecil. Based on those odds, and the extreme difference in death cause (natural hip infection vs murdered by your past/future child self), along with the whole topic being extremely heavy for the podcast, I don't think they're going to have Kevin be killed by himself. Kevin's a very developed character that we still know very little about, and we're only just learning more now. Along with that, Josie had a daughter, but they had a complicated relationship. During one of the last few times we heard from Kevin, he got a partner and a stepson. While it is odd that we didn't get a mention of them in the past Adult!Kevin episode, I think it can be easily explained by the focus being on a specific holiday and Lauren suddenly showing up and surprising him/the whole "smiling god doesn't actually love you" thing. The difference in time between the desert otherworld and night vale hasn't been explained fully yet. Who knows if it's still ten times faster? Who knows if the active portal is messing with the time? I think there's a very high chance that Charles and Donovan are still alive, and likely similar ages from when we last heard from them. I doubt finknor would give him a young child to care for and then instantly age him up without letting us see how that's affected Kevin.
If Charles and Donovan are still alive, then would Brinknor really kill a man in front of his child and partner? After the healing he clearly went through to get to that point? I don't think they've forgotten about Charles and Donovan.
Not only would it not make sense for his character, it would also be a very dark turn for the podcast. While Night Vale has had it's dark moments (Go To The Mirror), I think there's a huge step to make between cosmic horror and a child murdering his future self (who we've recently been purposely reminded exists! Who's recently been given more dialogue to a name!). Even if you see the "killing his future self" part as an average night vale plot, this is still a child. A child who we've grown to know both versions of. A child who, a few weeks ago in Night Vale time, was pretending to be an airplane in a park. While The Boy has gotten more serious and seemingly more unstable over the weeks, he's still a child. Cecil offers him goldfish crackers and a root beer.
The way the episode ends, especially with the addition of Carlos trying to help The Boy with symbolism, it feels very much like The Boy saying that he needs to murder his future self, and describing it in detail, is something that is not going to be tolerated by the other characters. Brinknor wouldn't suddenly switch up Carlos's personality and have him help Kevin continue the cycle of violence that he's clearly very traumatized from.
All in all, I totally understand your concerns, but I don't think it's something you have to be worried about. Even if it's his future self, a child commiting murder and that being deemed okay is a huge step for a podcast where the main character refused to work for several days because he didn't know trees grew from seeds. I think a likely ending is going to be about Kevin breaking the cycle of violence, trauma, and abuse. Whether The Boy goes back to wherever he came from, whether he gets to grow up in Night Vale and start again, whether Adult!Kevin helps him through his struggle, I think there's going to be a happy ending for The Boy that doesn't involve murder.
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Buck’s storylines for seasons 5 and 6 have been ABSOLUTELY atrocious and a lot of the GA viewers have and are continuing to comment on the majority of social media platforms and post-mortem articles about how immaturely his character is being written.  
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In 6x4 “Animal Instincts” he made the decision to be a sperm donor for people he’s not even that close with even though he couldn’t make a decision in 6x1 “Let the Games Begin” about buying a couch (metaphor for his relationship with Eddie).  
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Even Christopher said, “It’s weird!” when Buck asked him what him not having a couch had to do with him being fire captain.  He needs to get his life in order and start learning from his previous mistakes. He’s 31 years old now which means his character should not be repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
Maybe that’s the reason why they didn’t bring Ravi back this season because his character knows who he is and he doesn’t second guess himself.  He’s younger than Buck and if Ravi was present during 6A, Buck’s storyline would look even more ridiculous than it already does.
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Ravi told Buck in 5x5 “Peer Pressure” that he was honored that Buck chose him to replace him (during one of Buck’s many self-esteem and self-worth crises because he wanted to transfer out of the 118 since Maddie and Chimney were gone and he was blaming himself even though it wasn’t his fault) but Ravi also told him, “I like being me!”.
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Then in 5x8 “Defend in Place” Ravi’s backstory was one that was worthy of being told unlike that foolishness they did with TK in 5x9 “Past is Prologue” (no one cared about her Arrested Development of a childhood) when Buck was having yet another crisis because he thought she was going to breakup with him. That was the perfect opportunity to show growth for Buck but just like always they wrote him with two different personas in season 5, like a HIMBO within his relationship but like a HUSBAND while he was staying with Eddie after Eddie’s mental breakdown.
Even though Ravi had cancer as a child, he was grateful for his family along with the doctors and nurses who treated him and he told Hen that they were his family. Ravi is completely settled in himself while Buck is still trying to figure out who he is but the difference between the two of them is Ravi has grown in the 2 plus years since he’s been with the 118 but Buck has yet to display any major growth milestones of his own in his 6 years of being at the same firehouse. While it’s true that “healing is not linear”, a person should show some type of growth as they get older but Buck is still making irrational decisions and unlike the hundreds of other times when he’s asked everyone at the 118 what he should do about the numerous crises he’s experienced, when he was asked to be a sperm donor he didn’t talk to anyone except for Hen and he didn’t even take what she said seriously. This raggedy storyline needs to wrap up quickly or some GA viewers might not tune in for 6B.  According to some of the comments that have been posted, there are some viewers who still haven’t tuned in for season 6A and even more who stopped watching after 5B started.  
Also the audience noticed that Ravi was cropped out of that photo that was on The Wilson Family’s photo and art board in 6x6 “Tomorrow” while they left LD front and center.  They still aren’t taking the GA’s criticisms about that character seriously so hopefully she DOES NOT come back in 6B.  They should continue to keep their focus on the mains and remove all these unnecessary recurring characters like LD, Connor, Kameron and any others that were just brought on to be included in Buck’s storyline.  Finally, where is Julie (the paramedic from 5x7 “Ghost Stories” and 6x2 “Crash and Learn”)?  She wasn’t in 6x5 “Home Invasion” even though KR said in an article that she would be around occasionally to fill in anytime someone was going to be missing from A-shift.  There was some random paramedic lady working with Eddie in 6x5 so it appears they can’t even keep the regular recurring characters like “Julie” organized enough so that they can remain on the show.  The lack of organization seems to be a running theme this season with incorrect synopses, trailers that include clips that aren’t included in the episodes and rushed content.  After the dumpster fire that was season 5, it’s not surprising.
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