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Visual development for Rise of the Guardians by Christian Schellewald

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1. Jack’s Sister’s name is “Mary Overland”.

The fandom came up with the fake name “Emma” from either the marvel character named “Emma Frost”, or Emma was just a common name back then. (There have been other nicknames, like Jill as in “Jack and Jill” too.)

Originally when asked, William Joyce said her nickname was “Flee”, but later contradicted himself in saying “Flee” was Tooth’s sister’s name. Either way, “Flee” was merely a nickname. It was later revealed her name in the movie would have been “Mary Overland”. This seems to be the most plausible name because William has a knack for naming characters after his family. His son is named “Jackson”, and his daughter’s name is “Mary Katherine”. I think its safe to say Mary Overland is indeed her true name.

2. Tooth’s Human Form

Tooth was drawn as a human child in the books, but in the “Creating an Epic” (behind the scenes content in the ROTG christmas edition) we see a movie version and an older version of human Tooth animated in 2D at the end of the credits. There have been many conceptual forms of Toothiana, but this is the first human design pushed enough to make it featured near the end of special content. I’d like to consider this human design canon.

3. Tooth’s sister: “Vanish”

Vanish has had a lot of controversy behind her character. William Joyce had stated Tooth has a younger sister named “Vanish”, yet not such character has ever been alluded to in the book series or movie at all. “Flee” was a nickname mistakenly given to Jack’s sister, but William later noted “Flee” was supposed to be associated with Tooth’s sister “Vanish”, which would seem more plausible since ‘Flee’ and ‘Vanish’ have the same meaning.

However, her name “Vanish”, and her existence as a whole is questionable. There have been several other images/contexts in concept arts where this image of ‘Vanish’ is merely a book design of Tooth’s mini fairies; this has also claimed to be merely a concept design of Tooth herself, and there’s also been an odd framed picture of this image with a name plate that reads something along the lines of “Tippy” (?) the Tooth Fairy.

Vanish is by far the strangest case in this fact list. Its unknown whether she truly is canon or not even within the books. Its unknown whether this situation will ever be cleared up.

(also I added a picture I drew of Vanish myself with colors just because I think she’s cute regardless of her controversy)

4. Jamie Bennett’s Parents

Jamie’s mother has a straight up model in the concept art book. However, unbeknownst to many, a concept art image of his father and mother(without glasses) can be found in the ROTG Jamie’s Room Previs Reel here. (scroll down for it) I found this intriguing, for the movie typically keeps the parent’s faces out of view. Also, its worth noting that in that picture, we see another character’s head out of frame to the right next to Jamie, whom I assume is Sophie, but her hair isn’t a light blonde. Also, its interesting to note that Jamie’s mother is considered a single working mom in the official movie. So at some point the ROTG writers must have taken Jamie’s father out of the picture, and I’ve always wondered why.

5. Pitch’s Uniform

In the books, Kozmotis Pitchiner is known as a general. I’ve seen many fan designs of what his armor could possibly look like, but there’s been two concept images of William Joyce’s for Pitch, one of early possession where he still wears his uniform, and one of late possession. These two designs are akin to heavy machinery, and the left one (his golden age uniform supposedly still upon him) looks similar to a pirate with that eyepatch. I wish we see a true untainted golden age Kozmotis drawn by William someday.

6. Jack’s Staff: “Twiner”

It was mentioned a few years ago by William that Jack’s staff was actually alive, and went by the name “Twinetender”, however in his most recent post on instagram, he has now toned down the name to simply: “Twiner”. He is said to be a branch broken from an ancient willow that resides upon an indigenous native american burial ground. Twiner is supposedly a spirit that possesses great strength fueled from the deceased warriors he shared the land with when he was still part of the great willow. In the movie, its clear Jack’s staff is just a piece of wood that amplified his power, like a wizard’s wand, useless without its wielder.

7. Beardless North

(or rather hairless North) is just something I threw in there, since many people, (such as myself) have difficulty figuring out the shape of North’s head when I draw him. Knowing his exact ear and chin shape will help, and it could help people whom wish to draw North younger too, as he were so in the books.

8. Mother Nature’s name

This is actually quite common knowledge, but “Seraphina Pitchiner” is a widely used name for Pitch’s daughter in the books. The ROTG wiki page had proclaimed the name came from William Joyce in one of his interviews, but I, and many others like the wiki admins, have done thorough research and have found no such evidence. “Seraphina” was such an adopted name and very space-like, when her true name came out in the books as simple english ‘Emily-Jane’ many fans became upset and confused. I am unsure if William has been confronted about the ‘Seraphina’ controversy, but in all honesty with his name mishaps that have happened with Jack and Tooth’s sisters so often, I would actually not be surprised if there was indeed a time William claimed her name to be ‘Seraphina’ and later changed his mind. I will edit this post if William comments about this situation. I hope we get clarity sometime for this.

9. Unappreciated Settings

In the “Creating an Epic” and in many concept artist portfolio pages, there’s heavy background concept art that involves Sandman’s original ship/island/cloud, and Bunnymund’s original unnatural tunnel system. There’s even been clearer designs of Pitch’s layer, and Jack’s home town. There was a concept artist hired who even did work for the Nightmare Galleon and golden age space ships for the movie’s early concepts. There’s so many more out there, I hope people appreciate this extensive and intensive world building as much as I do.

10. Unreleased

Its been nearly four and a half years since ROTG was released, and in many behind the scenes videos, I spotted tons of blurry unreleased concept arts that look intriguing and fantastic. Surely there’s other story boards and scenes that have been unreleased out there. Take a look here, this is a bad gif, but its a scene where Pitch appears to be talking in the light:

This is from the “Creating an Epic” , but notice how this wasn’t in the movie, and yet its fully rendered and even as lighting. William Joyce had mentioned a long while ago that Dreamworks actually had shorts in the making of ROTG. One was about Pitch, and the other was about an egg that escaped the Easter Massacre. These shorts were discontinued despite William claiming they were 50 to 70% done, and Dreamworks has refused any further attention to be placed upon their ROTG works. (one of these shorts he claims to be about Man in the Moon, but that was done by HIS studio, not Dreamworks. So its questionable if the Pitch short was really done by Dreamworks or not, but there’s no doubt the egg was by Dreamworks since it was directed by the art director and not William) but now I can say there’s no doubt there IS alternative unreleased material for ROTG out there: shorts, deleted scenes, or otherwise. Its been kept from the fandom for years, which is sad to me. Especially since Dreamworks has made it clear they don’t ever want to come back to this. So all this data and art is just lying around rotting in their studio at this point, when there’s plenty of fans out there who would pay money to just get their hands on one unfinished short released digitally. Hell, I would.

This post is brought to you by the same person who did the GOC / ROTG distinction a long time ago. I meant to make this post forever now, and I’m actually procrastinating from school just to do this haha…. but even though the fandom is kinda dead, ROTG still has a place in my heart, and I feel like many people have just left because there’s no new materials. But the Jack Frost book will soon come out within the next year, and I hope this post sparks some interest and spreads information, since I’ve known many that are confused by William Joyce’s claims lately. But thank you all for reading! <3

#Reblogging this so i can look into some of the stuff #keep thinking about Tippy the tooth fairy which is the most william joyce name ever #I need to find that og art rn so i can have concrete evidence of tippy #also: in the fifth book twinetender is a shape shifting tree person thing that was made by North from a tree from an viking burial ground #yay william joyce being inconsistent!#Information

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#WILLIAM JOYCE IF YOU FIND THIS IM SORRY #Posts that will only make sense to those of us who have read the books #Rotg #rise of the guardians #twinetender #twiner #Jack Frost #guardians of childhood #nsfw humor

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Jack using the wind to speak to non-believers would be so insanely creepy- because imagine, you're alone, you're walking and the hairs on the back of your neck and prickling, because you've just heard something- was it the leaves, behind you? The sound of something else? Trash, an animal? So then you're left wondering, "Is something there?" and yet, when you look back, there's not even a shadow to watch.

Then, suddenly the wind picks up, and maybe it makes you chilly, and so you're holding your arms, and then it gets stronger, but then you have a problem, because you don't know which way to face, and where is it coming from?

There is wind whipping everywhere, things are flying violently, nearly because all in a moment, it's searching for just the right crack, the right slip, the right noise to carry, and they're all in different places, because one vowel could take many noises, depending on the tone, which has to be inconsistant, because there's virtually no way to work speaking over the wind into an art, because the world is always subject to change and unless you want to carry around a whole host of tools, you have to find your sounds, figure out your do-re-mis as you go, so there's not even a full word coming from any one direction, and sounds die, so of course, so if you want to be heard now, the wind has to be stronger than ever, so you're trying to speak, but the person you're speaking to is much too focused on trying to make it out alive to listen.

And maybe Jack's trying say something, to be funny, but it won't carry because talking over the wind is inherently wild and it takes a lot of control.

But also, imagine you're a musician, and when it is calm, and you're at peace with yourself, and you're doing very well, sometimes it feels like your instrument is talking to you. ...And almost, almost it sounds like someone else is singing along, too, like you've got a partner playing to the same tune, with the same notes, and you're not just singing for yourself- it's a voice you can almost make out, but not quite, and some words are missing, and you can't always hear it over those pesky sharps, but it's there, nearly gentle and sometimes not, so it's feels like all the world -the woods, plants, leaves, birds, the spaces betweeen trashcans and through the air under and around the seats in the concert hall, maybe it's even the carried voices of other people, words and phrases selectively carrried- it's all singing and dancing around and sombre and joyful and feeling with you.

And then, when you're putting your instrument away, when you're pressing your bow back into it's case and making sure your reed is sound and you're carefully resting the lid of your piano, you feel better- you're looking around, thinking to yourself, nearly imagining you actually, quite literally had a partner to sing and play with, a partner to dance to your melody, and that it hadn't just been you and the magic of your music that had been stringing your heart along.

You think of fairies and witches and other forest-y, musical, planted creatures, unseeing, unknowingly mussing the solid imprint of a footprint in the dust, dirt or something else that someone nearly there had left by your side.

Also to consider- when you've got a gloved hand knuckle-deep in a shelf of ice way up north, with nothing a pickaxe in hand, a rope and parka to your name and it's just gotten dangerous- when you're alone, more than you've ever been in your life, and it sounds like the wind is screaming and it's stoming and snowling like you've never seen before and you've just heard something almost like a yelll echoing throughout the canyons, all drowned snow-white, and it's frustrated, echoing and devastating, almost reflecting the complete and utter terror broiling in your gut, the feel of frozen flesh thick around your bones and the hope you feel dying, running cold and sharp down your spine, like a weight heavy in your gut, fading by your feet like the ice numbing all sensation there-

#Jack frost #Headcanons

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my rotg collection :>

#rotg #rise of the guardians #jack frost #pitch black #sanderson mansnoozie #e. aster bunnymund #toothiana #nicholas st. north #guardians of childhood #This is not including fan made stuff #collection

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Sketchbook log: Computer storage full? Try adding room by removing the memory.

#Jack was only supposed to be a vessel :(#Kinda creepy if you think about it. Like yeah i took out a portion of yourself so that someone else’s soul can exist inside you.#Sorry bout that. Anway tootles I won’t talk to you for the next 300 years or so #Jack Frost #nightlight #sanderson mansnoozie #katherine shalazar #tsar lunar #The man in the moon #guardians of childhood

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ice ice baby

#Jack frost #fanart

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Sketchbook Log: Story time! Let’s go!

#I really like how the frames of the panels are sandy’s sand very cool #Also really neat way of tying the books and the movie together #Jack frost #jack’s sister #mary overland #nightlight #katherine shalazar #the man in the moon #tsar lunar #sanderson mansnoozie #Fan comic #fanart #guardians of chuldhood

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Today I offer you: theories about Jack's memory loss and Manny's chronic lack of communication!

Lack of Communication: The Man in the Moon is incredibly powerful. He only seems to communicate really directly to save Jack, give him a name, and then with the Guardians- in one of their strongholds, probably the most well-fortified and difficult to reach of the strongholds. I mean, Pitch didn't personally appear at the Pole until he was certain he'd already won. Maybe Manny didn't talk to Jack because it would have been a beacon to dark spirits that could have destroyed or corrupted him in his immortal infancy. Maybe he doesn't have the power to communicate often- he seemed to have to wait for a full moon to raise Jack.

Memory Loss: Remember kiddos, the Man in the Moon is just a being like the Guardians in the grand scheme of things. He's powerful and respected, but he must have limits. Jack died in the afternoon and seems to have been resurrected a few hours into the night; that indicates he was deceased for several hours. Between that and dying by drowning, I don't want to imagine the kind of brain damage he had, let alone cardiopulmonary problems. Maybe it took everything Manny had to restore Jack to a functional semblance of life and left the memories for spirits like Tooth to restore.

Or maybe it was to protect Burgess and Jack's family. How do you think he'd have reacted to his unwitting transformation if he had the life experience and memories of a late-1600s-early-1700s colonial American? He'd believe he was some sort of monster or demon, he'd flip out, and being a brand new spirit he'd probably lose control so badly he'd flatten his own home. Instead Manny left Jack with his natural upbeat personality and curiosity and took away the memories that would make him panic about his current state, thereby protecting everyone around Jack. Maybe the adjustment would have just been too much, and Jack couldn't fully embrace being winter itself if he had human memories.

There's such a narrow perception of Manny's actions that I don't think I've seen anyone bother to consider the ways Manny may have been trying to help Jack in the bigger scheme of things. Jack was lonely, but he was still himself, and he was still alive, and maybe that was the best Manny could do for him.