Why do you believe that people have such fragile morals they will be corrupted by a piece of fiction?

Are your morals that fragile?

Why do you believe that reading fiction about harm will cause the people who read it to do harm?

Are you that easily willing to harm people?

Why do you believe that writing or reading nasty fiction will cause people to think that it's alright to hurt and abuse people?

Are you that easily corrupted and changed by fiction?

Why are you worrying that reading fiction will change a person's morality like some kind of evil spell?

👉 You sound like a baptist preacher claiming Pokemon will make children worship the devil.

👉 You sound like a Victorian phrenologist claiming that reading novels will cause women to lose their virtue.

“You’re not oppressed for being proship!”

Okay cool, I agree, I never said I was.

But also,

You’re not being oppressed because people create art that’s personally unpleasant for you.

someone apologized for commenting late… 2 months after the fic was posted 😭😭 girl that’s EARLY thats fresh

Some anti-shippers really act like proship means "dangerous offending paraphile who is deeply perverted and can't be good in any way and should be kept away from society" instead of just like "person who doesn't give a flying fuck about what other people ship" and it's really uncomfortable to witness.

I absolutely hate it when dumba** youtubers talk about fanartists(mostly shippers) and refer to it as "raising awareness"

like no, you're not raising awareness, you're just trying to make a cringe compilation video without getting backlash by frameing this person as being worse than they actually are and therefore trying to convince people that your bullying is somehow "justified". because in reality this person is not doing anything wrong, you just disagree with their taste in ships or the themes they decide to portray in their art

Yk you say you get attacked by antis and stuff but I've never really seen it? I've never seen any proshipper be targeted and harassed and stuff, I've seen people disagree with them, and sure sometimes they're rude, but that's about it

I'm honestly surprised I haven't gotten more hatemail. But. There has been plenty. KYS, calling me a pedo, all their usual go to's. But I delete them right away. I'm not going to post them just to prove a point. I don't think they're worth the attention :/ I'm glad you haven't seen anything too bad though!

It's really like:

Fic-cops: "It's ok to write about these topics, but you shouldn't romanticize them."

Others: "But how do you tell if a piece of fiction is romanticizing something or not?"

Fic-cops: "Oh, that's easy. If I personally like it, then it's not romanticizing. And if I personally don't like it, it is romanticizing."

antis: media depicting illegal and/or reprehensible things shouldn’t be created, consumed, or readily available to the public. people who interact positively with these kinds of media either already want to/already do these things in reality, or the media itself will make them want to.

also antis (but it’s not the same, don’t get it twisted, this is the good kind of illegal and reprehensible):

I....I have absolutely no words. Like I can't even process this shit. I am fucking so god damn baffled. Like is this just antis being hypocrites? Something I've noticed is that in fictional settings, a character being completely iredeemable and ignoring someone's consent is completely okay...unless sex is involved. The second a character is a pedophile or rapist, then anyone who likes said character is completely disgusting and fucked up and gross. But a character is a stalker? Well that's fine because "90% of stalkers are uwu shy baby boys that need protection".

🔹 Someone else's fiction cannot cause you physical harm.

🔹If someone else's fiction is causing you emotional or psychological harm, or distress, you can put it down and not read/watch it.

🔹Your emotional well-being is not the responsibility of fiction writers.

🔹Someone else's fiction is not about your personal trauma.

🔹When reading or watching fiction, you always have the power. You can always stop. You are never reading fiction without your own consent.

🔹Fiction writers are not responsible for other people's mental health.

🔹The content of a piece of fiction does not reflect on the morality of its author.

🔹Just because someone writes about bad things happening, doesn't mean they want those things to happen.

🔹Don't like? Don't read.

hey! i’m not sure if this is a rude question or not so please bear with me :’)

i am fiercely anti-censorship. i don’t harass people for shipping or creating media for things i wouldn’t approve of IRL and i understand it’s just fiction.

does it make me an anti for not personally wanting to see proship content?

i generally block proship blogs and tags and that’s about it. i don’t report or add them to a list or any of that bs. i’m honestly kind of confused about proshipping as a whole (i don’t know any of the terms and it was explained to me like “these people are bad and hurt people” a long time ago)

Proship just means "ship and let ship", which seems to be your stance. Basically just minding your own and not caring what other people are doing in fandoms. Just don't let an anti tell you what proship means because they have a lot of misconceptions. Or they purposefully like to spread misinformation, I don't know.

But it's totally fine not to vibe with that kind of dark content! Proship doesn't mean you HAVE to ship those sorts of things. Just that you don't bother people who do ship those things. And knowing that a person's ships isn't a reflection of what they want or what they do irl.

You don't have to apologize, or perform authorial disgust, for dark, violent, sexual, cruel or problematic topics in the fiction you create.

Fiction does not exist to teach an audience a moral lesson. You as an author are not required to be your audience's moral teacher.

You can have bad things happen-- you can have a protagonist who is bad-- without having to explain to your audience that they are bad.

Is proshipping actually bad or did someone on the internet say it was bad and you just don’t think for yourself?

it beggars belief that someone would choose to read a book in the “horror” genre, whose literal name promises that it will be full of upsetting, disgusting, frightening—one might even say horrifying—material, and then get mad that the book contains incest or whatever. like holy shit. they are not gonna make it in the real world

If you see a post promoting freedom of artistic expression and denouncing censorship and your first instinct is that OP must be a pedophile and that you need to attempt to discredit their post with the same kind of 'child predator' scaremongering that conservatives use against LGBT+ people it says more about you than it says about the original post.

It says you are a pro-censorship authoritarian who is comfortable using fear to control others.

your comfort fic doesn't look like mine and that's okay. beautiful even

Do antis deserve an olympic gold medal in reaching, or do they purposefully miss the point of everything we say just so they can keep arguing?

We say: Fiction is not reality OR Fiction does not reflect/affect reality on a 1:1 basis

They hear: Fiction has never, can never, and will never have any effect on reality

We say: Censorship is dangerous because it never stops with the "icky" subjects and is quickly used to target and silence queer people

They hear: Pedophilia is akin to being gay and should be part of the lgbt community

We say: Pedophilia isn't bad because it's gross, it's bad because it's causing harm to a real life human being

They hear: Pedophilia isn't bad OR Pedophilia isn't gross

We say: Let people ship what they want

They hear: I love abusing children and/or I want to fuck my brother